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    Mayan doomsday resurgence after 'we are technically in 2012' claim.

    According to sources we are in the times of what the Mayans calendar predicted as 'the end times'

    With everything going on as we speak we certainly are in unprecedented times and a shift of a paradigm looks more likely.

    The Gregorian calendar was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII in 1582, making some changes to the previously used Julian calendar, namely dropping 11 days to accurately reflect the time it takes Earth to orbit once around the Sun. At the time, many countries opposed the new system, with London residents taking the streets to hold protests demanding “give us back our 11 days”. Although only 11 actual days have been lost, online users have calculated the amount technically accumulated over the past 286 years, with one sharing a post on Twitter claiming: “Following the Julian Calendar, we are technically in 2012.”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...0-doomsday-spt

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    Default Re: Were the Mayans correct after all?

    Hi viking.

    Big problems with predictions:
    Some people and or secret orgs can directly work to help fulfil the prophecies and or do things under the guise of the prophecy
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Im open minded but if "people" keep predicting --law of average -- some day, some one will be correct--
    The Mayans saying what experts say the great pyramid pointed to and Edgar Cayce did predict a new Golden Age roughly starting 20036.
    He had more chance of being right than most -- Cayce also said difficult time before and not all may make it into the Golden Age.
    Mothers supposedly will produce children of a higher spiritual vibration -- more chakras.

    May be so

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    Mayans were right,we are wrong.
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    “And they who know the time they control the world..”

    We have also entered new sixty year cycle in January 2020, corresponding to Chinese lunar year of Metal Rat.
    1960 was the previous version of year of Metal Rat.

    Vedic astrology delves still deeper to history and Skies as they appear to ancient observer before the change of precession of equinox and common change of timelines.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession



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    Default Re: Were the Mayans correct after all?

    And I wonder why I was lead to the book, Apocalypse Revealed by Swedenborg. If you read this version it has not anything to do with Death on a Pale Horse. Rather, it has everything to do with the spiritual and the evolution of consciousness. Strange. Who would have thought?


    Looking at numerology and the arcana attributing significance to sums, it is interesting to note that 2012 and 2021 share the same sum and therefore the same energy...it is the number of life...and death...like a rebirth.

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    Default Re: Were the Mayans correct after all?

    If we lost or gained 11 days every year for 500 years wouldnt summer be winter in some years?

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    Quote Posted by spade (here)
    If we lost or gained 11 days every year for 500 years wouldnt summer be winter in some years?
    Yes,if you count the time by days,but if you count the time by astral bodies as has done in the past...well that's not true...seasons remains seasons
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    I posted a thread in the Myth and Legend section almost a year ago about a new way of looking at the Mayan Calendar. I quoted a researcher who feels that counting days is completely off-base. He feels the ancients used celestial events, such as visible conjunctions, to measure time. Each Jupiter-Saturn conjunction occurs about 20 years apart, which is the length of the Mayan "katun".

    The next Jupiter-Saturn conjunction occurs on December 21st, 2020 (exact date) at 00° Aquarius.

    Quote When Jupiter and Saturn are conjunct, there are enormous shifts in power and fortune. Jupiter being expansive in its influence, Saturn, contractive. Conjunction suggests a state of intensification, concentration. What this indicates to me is the potential for explosive change, good and bad.
    I get the feeling we are in the midst of this explosive change right now.

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    Default Re: Were the Mayans correct after all?

    Except that the Mayans themselves never predicted anything.
    There's a lot of people (mis?)interpreting the calendar, an entire literature about it, but there's no actual account of any Mayan myth about the end of the world. None.

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    Quote Posted by dim (here)
    Except that the Mayans themselves never predicted anything.
    There's a lot of people (mis?)interpreting the calendar, an entire literature about it, but there's no actual account of any Mayan myth about the end of the world. None.
    That's correct.

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    Quote Posted by dim (here)
    Except that the Mayans themselves never predicted anything.
    There's a lot of people (mis?)interpreting the calendar, an entire literature about it, but there's no actual account of any Mayan myth about the end of the world. None.
    There are some Mayan researchers who politely disagree and offer proof. This is from page 13 of the research paper below.

    Quote Contrary to what many “mayanists” are saying, the Maya people did predict the end of this age and it does involve a cataclysmic event. If we do our homework and pay attention, it is not difficult to perceive this or document it with veridical sources.

    In the early 16th century, when the Spanish missionaries began reporting their encounters with Native American cultures, they unanimously began to spot legends and myths among the Maya, Aztec, Inca, etc., which were quite similar (if not identical) to those depicted in Biblical literature. The most obvious, of course, was that of the Great Flood/Universal Deluge because it is universally recounted by all human cultures of this planet.

    Fray Francisco Ximénez was a Dominican priest which conserved the famous Mayabook Popol Vuh , and he comments:

    “…what these [people] said about the flood was also attested at Guatemala by the Achi Indians (these are the Cacchiquels) stating that they had it painted between others of their antiquities […].”
    Indeed they did, as is attested in the Dresden Codex and Tikal mural among other examples of ancient Maya depictions of the Deluge. Another Dominican Frair, Bartolomé de lasCasas writes:

    “there was news about a flood and the end of the world, and they called it Butic, which means deluge of many waters and also judgment, and so they believe that another Butic is yet to come, which is another flood and judgment, not of water, but of fire, which they say has to be the end of the world, in which all creatures will fight each other […].”

    The story is more interesting at the hand of the “Relación de la Ciudad de Mérida”: an unedited text that the newly formed “cabildo” (city counsel) wrote in 1579:

    They [The Maya of Yucatan] had also news about the fall of Lucifer and the Flood, and that the world shall end by fire, and in order to signify this they performed a ceremony where they painted a caiman that meant the Deluge and the Earth, upon which caiman they made a great pile of wood and put it on fire,and after it was turned into live coal, they flattened it and the main priest passed barefooted over the live coal without being burnt, and after him everybody else who wished also passed, understanding by this that it was the fire that shall finish them all.

    Perhaps those who tell us that the Mayas never mention the end of the world, will kindly explain how the above mentioned information is justified.
    https://www.academia.edu/3275004/The...eus_Code_I-IV_

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    Oh, just for reference as I was unaware of any such Mayan-end-of-the-world-cycle, there's this PDF The Maya Flood Myth and the Decapitation of the Cosmic Caiman on MesoWeb.com "An Exploration of Mesoamerican Cultures" that may or may not be of interest to readers of this thread eh ?




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    Quote it begins with an account of a series of cosmic events that occurred during the final bak’tun of the previous creation.
    Mayans have the world destroyed and begin again four times already. It's obvious is a metaphor. That's why I said interpretations. Or misses thereof.

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    Quote Posted by Clear Light (here)
    Oh, just for reference as I was unaware of any such Mayan-end-of-the-world-cycle, there's this PDF The Maya Flood Myth and the Decapitation of the Cosmic Caiman on MesoWeb.com "An Exploration of Mesoamerican Cultures" that may or may not be of interest to readers of this thread eh ?

    Oh, for some Context of the PDF linked to above, it's actually the online version of what was originally published as part of the PARI Journal Vol. VI, No. 1 Summer 2006 entitled : The Maya Flood Myth and the Decapitation of the Cosmic Caiman, by Erik Velásquez García

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    Mayans didn´t predict anything, it is not a prediction, it´s a fact. The calendar doesn´t say the end of the world, which is but crap feed to us by cinema and tv. The calendar states clearly the end of time.... just time... and wouldn´t we, once evolved, be in the Now? Cronnos is about to be over. Much love
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    It doesn't mean they were wrong either. It just means that the end of a cycle doesn't have to be cataclysmic. It's more than obvious by now that we aren't in that long prophesied by many past civilizations timeline anymore.
    Although it would seem like that to many, as each one gets what one needs to accelerate their own process towards balance, and some, many, do need those events to take place and thus it will for them, for most will be a slow transition in to the new era or the "Sixth Sun" as Mayans would put it. In fact it has already started quite a while ago.

    Talking about interpretations...

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    Quote Posted by dim (here)
    It doesn't mean they were wrong either. It just means that the end of a cycle doesn't have to be cataclysmic. It's more than obvious by now that we aren't in that long prophesied by many past civilizations timeline anymore.
    Although it would seem like that to many, as each one gets what one needs to accelerate their own process towards balance, and some, many, do need those events to take place and thus it will for them, for most will be a slow transition in to the new era or the "Sixth Sun" as Mayans would put it. In fact it has already started quite a while ago.

    Talking about interpretations...
    Yes my thoughts exactly...

    Apocalypse (ἀποκάλυψις) is a Greek word meaning "revelation", "an unveiling or unfolding of things not previously known and which could not be known apart from the unveiling".

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