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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Quote Posted by silvanelf (here)
    Very revealing:

    Now that's funny and tragic all rolled into one.


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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

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    This guy, dismantling the barricades on his own, had got to a point where he'd had enough of the police not being permitted to do their job. (The rest may come down later today or tomorrow.... maybe.)

    Hi, Bill. I'm going to add.. This man is not only taking down the barriers, he is also Turning the Tables,,, Literally! I feel that he is more disgusted at the fact that the Movement has turned into a homeless encampment, rather than a genuine movement. I feel his pain. Cal Anderson park is Beautiful.. downtown Seattle is Beautiful. This experiment has gone awful. And everyone knows it. I've spent lots of time at that park,,, and all of the other Beautiful parks in Seattle..they have been overrun with homelessness and DRUGGED out filth for so long nobody EVEN NOTICES anymore. If there IS a genuine progressive movement that doesn't end in violent rioting and looting, homelessness, etc.. then someone please let me know... let us all know. I feel this guys pain...

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    This was published in the London Daily Mail 40 mins ago. It seems bizarrely under-reported in the US mainstream. Other US reports may be useful.
    Teen, 16, is killed and 14-year-old is wounded after Seattle CHOP zone protesters fire into their jeep as they drove towards the barricades at 3am - as those inside cop-free area say they acted in self-defense and video shows a man yelling 'You're not dead yet?'
    • A 16-year-old boy died and a 14-year-old boy was wounded after being shot at Seattle's CHOP zone Monday.
    • Police said they are investigating after witnesses reported seeing a white Jeep SUV near a makeshift barrier around the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) zone at about 3am on Monday just before the shooting.
    • Witnesses told 911 dispatchers that they saw several unidentified people firing shots into the Jeep, police say.
    • Both teenagers, who have not been publicly identified, were taken to the Harborview Medical Center in a private vehicle by people who identified themselves as 'CHOP medics'.
    • The older boy died several hours later and police said the 14-year-old remains in a critical condition.
    • Detectives searched the vehicle for evidence on Monday morning but said in a statement that it was clear the crime scene had been 'disturbed'.
    • Demonstrators have occupied several blocks around the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct for about two weeks.
    • Protesters have claimed the shooting unfolded only after the vehicle plowed into the CHOP zone and those inside the car started shooting .
    • Those inside the zone say CHOP security, who are self-appointed and heavily armed, then returned fire.

      article continues, with video

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This guy, dismantling the barricades on his own, had got to a point where he'd had enough of the police not being permitted to do their job. (The rest may come down later today or tomorrow.... maybe.)

    Hi, Bill. I'm going to add.. This man is not only taking down the barriers, he is also Turning the Tables,,, Literally! I feel that he is more disgusted at the fact that the Movement has turned into a homeless encampment, rather than a genuine movement. I feel his pain. Cal Anderson park is Beautiful.. downtown Seattle is Beautiful. This experiment has gone awful. And everyone knows it. I've spent lots of time at that park,,, and all of the other Beautiful parks in Seattle..they have been overrun with homelessness and DRUGGED out filth for so long nobody EVEN NOTICES anymore. If there IS a genuine progressive movement that doesn't end in violent rioting and looting, homelessness, etc.. then someone please let me know... let us all know. I feel this guys pain...

    Love to you Brother...
    You say,

    "And everyone knows it. I've spent lots of time at that park,,, and all of the other Beautiful parks in Seattle..they have been overrun with homelessness and DRUGGED out filth"

    Anyone who refers to a fellow human being, who is likely self medicating due to childhood trauma as "human filth" should automatically reincarnate in the same position.
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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This guy, dismantling the barricades on his own, had got to a point where he'd had enough of the police not being permitted to do their job. (The rest may come down later today or tomorrow.... maybe.)

    Hi, Bill. I'm going to add.. This man is not only taking down the barriers, he is also Turning the Tables,,, Literally! I feel that he is more disgusted at the fact that the Movement has turned into a homeless encampment, rather than a genuine movement. I feel his pain. Cal Anderson park is Beautiful.. downtown Seattle is Beautiful. This experiment has gone awful. And everyone knows it. I've spent lots of time at that park,,, and all of the other Beautiful parks in Seattle..they have been overrun with homelessness and DRUGGED out filth for so long nobody EVEN NOTICES anymore. If there IS a genuine progressive movement that doesn't end in violent rioting and looting, homelessness, etc.. then someone please let me know... let us all know. I feel this guys pain...

    Love to you Brother...
    You say,

    "And everyone knows it. I've spent lots of time at that park,,, and all of the other Beautiful parks in Seattle..they have been overrun with homelessness and DRUGGED out filth"

    Anyone who refers to a fellow human being, who is likely self medicating due to childhood trauma as "human filth" should automatically reincarnate in the same position.
    Quiet with the assumptions. I'm stating FACT. I've been in their shoes,, in that same park.. I endured. It's a CHOICE to live like that. A CHOICE. These folks are NOT victims. They choose to live like this. And that's their right. Jump on a sanctimonious high horse if you must. I reincarnated in THIS life with the same challenges these folks have. I've slept on those streets, in that park, been mugged stabbed, pissed on, NOT NOT NOT by cops. You may know of some helpless folks who would agree to and benefit from genuine HELP. These folks are NOT them. I know with 100% certainty that folks just want break **** and get HIGH.

    Try to not speak of what you clearly DONT know.

    If I'm wrong, show me... Go into the Capital Hill Independent Territory.. (C.H.I.T.) tell me how turning 7 blocks of downtown into a garbage dump helps.
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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    A few days ago one of my sisters, who lives in Portland, Oregon (where there's been similar goings on), was driving down a narrow residential street in the city after helping her adult son who lived nearby.

    She heard a scraping noise and her car window had hit an open car door. A couple men were down in the back, looked like they were cleaning the car. Immediately they sprang up and started yelling at her that she had hit them deliberately because they were black (she couldn't even see them prior). They screamed at her and threatened to turn her in for hit and run even though she was there cooperating. She gave her information but they refused to give theirs. She said they seemed to have accents, couldn't tell where, not US born. Someone also popped out of a nearby window and yelled ''black lives matter!"

    She was terrified and confused, but fortunately her son was driving by and intervened to calm things. Later talking to the insurance company she was told it was a rental car from Enterprise out of Everett, Washington (a city north of Seattle, there's also a small airport there too). She said she had the sense they weren't just ''regular'' people visiting, but some kind of organization.

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Seattle's mayor is attempting to dismantle the thing since the protest showed up at her house.

    Her house is supposed to be undisclosed since she has been a federal attorney.

    "The stunt led the mayor to denounce Councilmember Kshama Sawant, a socialist who has joined forces with the protesters. Durkan has now asked the council to investigate Sawant over allowing protesters into City Hall earlier this month, encouraging the occupation of the East Precinct to begin with, and finally leading the protesters to Durkan’s residence."

    The socialist responds with a few "isms" telling us to x out the standard factors and give our money to the Green New Deal.

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Now it is easier to see the actual size of the protest. It is minuscule. It was only by the conflated reporting of the media that blew it way out of proportion that made it seem like a whirlwind of a grassroots uprising. But those that showed up were the trouble makers, the partiers, and the fanatics. Also it is telling that even at their own uprising, blacks seem to be outnumbered by white protestors. What's up with that? Is this really a black movement?

    Funny how while the safety of her constituents were at risk the 'summer of love' was to be tolerated but when they came knocking on her door suddenly it is a dangerous situation that must be stopped.

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    To AutumnW.. love to you, and sorry for being an arrse. I get caught up in mee emotions sometimes. Cal Anderson park really is quite beautiful. And you are right, it's not fair for me to refer to Anyone as Human Filth.

    Thanks for helping me reflect...

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Mayor should have named this "Summer of aerial projectiles " Like bottles of gasoline, chunks of concrete, urine , spit and trash. Hear antifa threatened the mayors home now, her 7 million dollar house. lol what a piece of work she is . Dumb axx voters better get her out of office. Guess the bikers weren't needed .

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Police: 2 Women Hit by Car on Seattle Highway Amid Protests
    Authorities say a 27-year-old man in drove a car onto a closed freeway in Seattle and barreled through a panicked crowd of protesters, injuring two women.



    Quote This early Saturday, July 4, 2020 photo provided by the Washington State Patrol shows the vehicle of Dawit Kelete who is suspected of driving into a protest on Interstate 5 in Seattle. Seattle has been the site of prolonged unrest following the May 25 police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis. (Washington State Patrol via AP)
    Quote SEATTLE (AP) — A 27-year-old man drove a white Jaguar onto a closed freeway in Seattle early Saturday and barreled through a panicked crowd of protesters, injuring two women, officials said.

    Dawit Kelete of Seattle drove the car around vehicles that were blocking Interstate 5 and sped into the crowd at about 1:40 a.m., according to a police report released by the Washington State Patrol. Video taken at the scene by protesters showed people shouting “Car! Car!” before fleeing the roadway.

    Summer Taylor, 24, of Seattle and Diaz Love, 32, of Bellingham were in critical condition with multiple injuries, according to Harborview Medical Center spokeswoman Susan Gregg.

    Love was filming the protest in a nearly two-hour-long Facebook livestream captioned “Black Femme March takes I-5” when the video ended abruptly; with about 15 seconds left, shouts of “Car!” can be heard as the camera starts to shake before screeching tires and the sound of impact are heard. The Associated Press could not immediately reach her.

    Video on social media showed the car striking two people.

    The driver was in custody, Washington State Patrol Capt. Ron Mead said. Charges had not been filed as of Saturday morning.

    Officials were trying to determine the motive as well as point of entry onto the interstate. Mead said Kelete was suspected to have driven the wrong way on a ramp. Mead said troopers did not know whether it was a targeted attack, but impairment was not considered a factor.

    Warning!!! Video contains graphic content!



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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Businesses are sueing the City in droves. How are they going to pay for it? Their NOT. They've just announced huge taxes on the biggest businesses. Like AMAZON, for example.



    These businesses have already promised to leave because they are treated like money trees.

    They are just going to steal it from Peter to pay Paul.

    Seattle has fallen..

    Update:. One of my 'buddues' that I mentioned earlier was arrested,,,... Apparently, the City refused to prosecute these criminals. Their public pretenders told them that it was determined that,,,, wait for it,,,,,,, they did NOT KNOW WHAT YHEY WERE DOING....

    OH FORGIVE THEM FATHER.

    They knew what they were doing... They told me BEFORE HAND what they were gonna do.

    I'm in Olympia now... It's not much better...

    Seattle was named after an Indian Nations Elder. I'm ashamed...

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    Following Andy Ngo,

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

    It appears Portland is nearly in as bad a shape as Seattle, if not worse.

    And they are looking for and accosting folks who they think are him.

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...247248384?s=20

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    Default Re: Chaz (or Chop): a Summer of Love, Antifastan, Lord of the Flies, or Animal Farm?

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...827606016?s=20




    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...581714433?s=20

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