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    Quote Posted by Jantje (here)
    We all live in China now. censor
    And will soon be more like: We all live in Gaza now.

    Look at the tech controls the Israeli's are amassing rapidly...and building up China in that arena.
    Seems like the "sucking dry" of the USA is soon complete and China is the new lillypad en route to world control.
    There is just now this little window where they have to squeeze through to make it work. Of course the world will explode in indignation at their moves, but they have to cross this open meadow to get to the swamp.
    If they can shut up the loudest voices long enough, and keep most people distracted with chaos, it is home base for them it seems.
    Just do not mention the noahide laws to the plebs. Look into it. Eye opening.

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    Quote Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
    I think Stefan Molyneux's views are despicable and he's an incredibly stupid man. I find it disturbing that any of you speak favorably about him or sympathize with him.
    Totally agree. I was just trying to be polite!

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    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    I don’t like Stephan Molyneux and I would refuse to listen to him but I do respect anyone’s right to free speech. However, I am confused by this forums and others insistence that private corporations need to provide a platform to everyone. As far as I can tell, for the majority of the world, the internet is a free space, people are free to create and upload whatever they want within some fairly reasonable parameters. Content creators can post their information in a variety of places including those they control so why the fuss?

    Social media companies are not public services. Insisting they should be seems like another form of dictatorship to me.

    The 'fuss' is because technology is going to be used as the basis for a future neo communist type dictatorship - and it's an illusion that the big social media 'companies' are just innocent private endeavours -

    You only have to go a little way down the rabbit hole to understand they are part of a plot to enslave and control the general population and god knows what else..

    Censoring and banning individuals like Stefan Molyneux and all the others is clearly just the first stage of it all....

    Alex Jones warned everyone when he was banned from all the social media platforms 2 years ago that he was just one of the first - that the precedent was set and others (all) would follow....

    Stefan is just the latest casualty and understandably he is upset about it....

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    And speaking of Alex Jones - the following shows where all this creeping dictatorship through modern technology is leading.... those going on about the big social media sites being privately owned etc etc... and that people should just start their own ..

    This is the kind of thing that can happen to people who do...


    https://www.infowars.com/chinese-sty...speech-charge/


    Quote “Build your own platforms,” they said. So Gab did. Now they’re banned too.

    If you thought that the social credit system in China, where dissidents can’t travel or buy things, would never come here, you’re wrong. It’s already here and the founder of Gab, a free-speech platform, is one of its first victims.
    Andrew Torba wrote an editorial about his experience and the discrimination he is facing for owning a completely legal free speech platform.

    As many of you already know we learned last week that Visa blacklisted Gab and we are now unable to process credit and debit card transactions. We learned more information this week and I think it’s important that I share it as a warning for others.

    It’s not just Gab that is blacklisted. It’s also my family.

    In China there is something called the Social Credit System, which was developed by the Communist Chinese Party as a “national reputation system.” This system tracks the “trustworthiness” of individuals, businesses, and organizations. “Trustworthiness” here means total and complete submission to the Chinese Communist Party. If the Communist Party deems you to be untrustworthy, you are denied access to plane tickets, train tickets, opening and operating businesses, and more.

    The article goes on to report that in China, “26.82 million air tickets, as well as 5.96 million high-speed rail tickets, have been denied to people who were deemed ‘untrustworthy (失信).’” Torba’s family is now facing eerily similar consequences for hosting a free speech social media platform.

    To most Americans this sounds horrifying, and it is. I now know from first-hand experience because this social credit system exists in the United States. While it may not be sanctioned by the United States government, it most certainly has been deployed by US corporations who today have in many ways more power, data, and control over our lives than our government does. Many of these corporations also happen to be endorsing and raising money for communist organizations, revolutionaries, and the domestic terrorists burning down our cities.

    We were told this week that not only is Gab blacklisted by Visa as a business, but my personal name, phone number, address, and more are all also blacklisted by Visa. If I wanted to leave Gab tomorrow (something that isn’t going to happen) and start a lemonade stand I wouldn’t be able to obtain merchant processing for it.

    The ban on Gab will affect even Torba’s wife

    If my wife wants to start a business she won’t be able to obtain merchant processing because she lives at the same address as me and would be flagged by Visa.

    This is obviously very concerning. We have done nothing wrong. Gab is and always has been a legally operated business. We sell hats, shirts, and a software subscription service that unlocks new features on Gab. My personal credit score is in the 800’s. I pay my bills. I have a wife and daughter to provide for, yet we are all being punished and defamed because someone at Visa has it out for me.

    Torba says he was told that a Visa employee watches all payment processing on the site and the minute he gets a new payment processor, Visa contacts them and tells them that Gab was flagged for “illegal activity” and warns that if they do not drop the site as a client they will be fined.

    When the processor inquires about this alleged “illegal activity,” Visa tells them that Gab has been flagged for “hate speech.” “Hate speech,” is of course not illegal in the United States of America and is protected by the First Amendment. As I have written, it’s not real and I refuse to acknowledge it as term. Visa doesn’t agree with me.

    Hate speech isn’t a crime

    Torba is correct that “hate speech” is not a crime in America. The fact that an American company can pretend it is a crime and use it to keep a person from making a living should be a jailable offense. In Matal v. Tam in 2017 the Supreme Court reaffirmed that there is no such thing as “hate speech” in the United States.

    The idea that the government may restrict] speech expressing ideas that offend … strikes at the heart of the First Amendment. Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate.”

    Corporations have also been told they cannot regulate speech. When AT&T tried to stop “hate messages” from extremist groups in the 1960s they found out they couldn’t. It has always been common knowledge in America that even hateful speech is protected speech. Yet, today, there doesn’t seem to be any regulating force that can tell modern corporations like Visa that they cannot deny service based on arbitrary allegations like “hate speech.”

    People like Torba and Laura Loomer (who can’t even order food on Grub Hub because she has been banned on all digital pay-services for her views) are suffering these illegal rules made up by people in corporations who just want to silence anyone on the right. These days it’s particularly dangerous to allow corporations this kind of power when “hate speech” is categorized as using the term “master bedroom” or “master’s degree.” Clearly, “hate speech” has no definition anymore and no one should be unable to use a credit card because of someone’s interpretation of it.

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    Default Re: Stefan Molyneux Banned on Youtube!

    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    I am confused by this forums and others insistence that private corporations need to provide a platform to everyone.
    A question here, maybe a rhetorical one.

    Avalon is also a private platform. We can (in theory!) close the account of absolutely anyone we wish, with zero notice or appeal, or even any explanation given.

    Do you think it'd be acceptable for us to do that simply because I or we didn't agree with someone's views?

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    Quote Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
    I think Stefan Molyneux's views are despicable and he's an incredibly stupid man. I find it disturbing that any of you speak favorably about him or sympathize with him.
    I disagreed with his views a lot of times. Yet I do not see him as s.o. who is 'despicable' or stupid.
    And is anyone despicable or stupid for you who does not share your views?

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