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    Default Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    Keri Smith is brilliant and articulate. She describes a bit about her journey into the SJW cult and gives us all the ins and outs of being in such a cult. She dissects social justice and clinically explains it's origins and motivations. Fascinating to hear it from someone who once held the beliefs so fervently. Gives me some hope. 15 minutes long.



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    Wow. Yes, Keri Smith is quite something else. Highly recommended for everyone here. It's the kind of super-clear exposition where you might want to stop and take notes — really.

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    Default Re: Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    This is very good.

    I'll give it a gentle nudge through our Twitter account although our audience, including our many guests here, are greater in number anyway, I imagine

    Keri has put a nice easy to understand nutshell around this, well, nuttiness
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Default Re: Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    What I want to know is where did it all come from. Was it the schools, the media, the water, the what ?




    There's a link under the video to the full length conversation ( 1 hour 33 minutes )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmt0qIfeAc




    Her youtube channel "unsafepace":
    https://www.youtube.com/c/UnsafeSpace/videos
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    Default Re: Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    She sums it up nicely.

    This is essentially Rhodes/Fabianism-collectivism, brought to you by Tavistock and such mind-control operations via the global media, informational (not truth) public and private networks they create and control. All working with other global private and public organizations, think for instance NGOs, towards a common purpose. A purpose that serves the interests of the few at the levers of control.

    “What’s past is prologue.”

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    This is very good.

    I'll give it a gentle nudge through our Twitter account although our audience, including our many guests here, are greater in number anyway, I imagine

    Keri has put a nice easy to understand nutshell around this, well, nuttiness
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    https://twitter.com/AvalonForum/stat...91532797599744
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    Default Re: Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    Keri Smith explains how you can help your friends wake up from the ideology

    Thanks Mikey for the brilliant video and thanks to Norman for posting the full video

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Keri Smith explains how you can help your friends wake up from the ideology

    Thanks Mikey for this the brilliant video and thanks to Norman for posting the full video

    Keri Smith @ Unsafe Space YouTube

    The books Keri referenced: Description @ the 'about page'

    Think Dangerously.

    Unsafe Space is committed to creating a culture that:
    • fully respects the freedom of speech;
    • viscerally understands the distinction between the initiation of speech and the initiation of force; and
    • upholds reason as the only valid tool of cognition, rejecting arguments based on feelings, faith, or force.
    Those interested in learning why we’ve made it our mission to create such a culture will find an overview of the philosophy behind Unsafe Space at: unsafespace.com/about

    Dr. Karlyn B @ Karlyn Borysenko YouTube

    Description @ the 'about page'
    The focus of my life since 2012 was to bring sanity back to the work environment, because I believe we spend so much time at work that we shouldn’t be miserable. I have an MBA and a PhD in psychology, specializing in industrial/organizational psychology. I have my own practice - Zen Workplace - where I integrate organizational psychology and positive psychology with mindfulness techniques to help make work better. I’m also the Chief Science Officer of RallyBright, where I work to build high-performing, resilient teams.

    But that’s not how most people know me. Most people know me as a (now former) Democrat of 20 years who went to a Trump rally. The article I wrote about my experience went viral and garnered 3 million views in the first week. I was featured by Fox News, Glenn Beck, Dennis Prager, and on dozens of radio shows, podcasts, and YouTube videos.

    Find out more or contact me directly at www.drkarlyn.com.
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    I Was the Mob Until the Mob Came for Me
    Published on July 14, 2018

    written by Barrett Wilson. The author delivers food for a living. He tries not to be on social media. ‘Barrett Wilson’ is a pseudonym.


    I drive food delivery for an online app to make rent and support myself and my young family. This is my new life. I once had a well paid job in what might be described as the social justice industry. Then I upset the wrong person, and within a short window of time, I was considered too toxic for my employer’s taste. I was publicly shamed, mobbed, and reduced to a symbol of male privilege. I was cast out of my career and my professional community. Writing anything under my own byline now would invite a renewal of this mobbing—which is why, with my editor’s permission, I am writing this under a pseudonym. He knows who I am.

    In my previous life, I was a self-righteous social justice crusader. I would use my mid-sized Twitter and Facebook platforms to signal my wokeness on topics such as LGBT rights, rape culture, and racial injustice. Many of the opinions I held then are still opinions that I hold today. But I now realize that my social-media hyperactivity was, in reality, doing more harm than good.

    Within the world created by the various apps I used, I got plenty of shares and retweets. But this masked how ineffective I had become outside, in the real world. The only causes I was actually contributing to were the causes of mobbing and public shaming. Real change does not stem from these tactics. They only cause division, alienation, and bitterness.

    How did I become that person? It happened because it was exhilarating. Every time I would call someone racist or sexist, I would get a rush. That rush would then be reaffirmed and sustained by the stars, hearts, and thumbs-up that constitute the nickels and dimes of social media validation. The people giving me these stars, hearts, and thumbs-up were engaging in their own cynical game: A fear of being targeted by the mob induces us to signal publicly that we are part of it.

    Just a few years ago, many of my friends and peers who self-identify as liberals or progressives were open fans of provocative standup comedians such as Sarah Silverman, and shows like South Park. Today, such material is seen as deeply “problematic,” or even labeled as hate speech. I went from minding my own business when people told risqué jokes to practically fainting when they used the wrong pronoun or expressed a right-of-center view. I went from making fun of the guy who took edgy jokes too seriously, to becoming that guy.

    When my callouts were met with approval and admiration, I was lavished with praise: “Thank you so much for speaking out!” “You’re so brave!” “We need more men like you!”

    Then one day, suddenly, I was accused of some of the very transgressions I’d called out in others. I was guilty, of course: There’s no such thing as due process in this world. And once judgment has been rendered against you, the mob starts combing through your past, looking for similar transgressions that might have been missed at the time. I was now told that I’d been creating a toxic environment for years at my workplace; that I’d been making the space around me unsafe through microaggressions and macroaggressions alike.

    Social justice is a surveillance culture, a snitch culture. The constant vigilance on the part of my colleagues and friends did me in. That’s why I’m delivering sushi and pizza. Not that I’m complaining. It’s honest work, and it’s led me to rediscover how to interact with people in the real world. I am a kinder and more respectful person now that I’m not regularly on social media attacking people for not being “kind” and “respectful.”

    I mobbed and shamed people for incidents that became front page news. But when they were vindicated or exonerated by some real-world investigation, it was treated as a footnote by my online community. If someone survives a social justice callout, it simply means that the mob has moved on to someone new. No one ever apologizes for a false accusation, and everyone has a selective memory regarding what they’ve done.

    Upon reading Jon Ronson’s 2015 book, So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed, I recently went back into my Twitter archives to study my own behavior. I was shocked to discover that I had actually participated quite enthusiastically in the public shaming of Justine Sacco, whose 2013 saga following a bad AIDS joke on Twitter forms one of the book’s central case studies.

    My memory had told me different. In my mind, I didn’t really participate. It was others who took things too far. In reality, the evidence showed that I was among the most vicious of Sacco’s mobbers. Ronson describes a central problem with Twitter shaming: There is a “disconnect between the severity of the crime and the gleeful savagery of the punishment.” For years, I was blind to my own gleeful savagery.

    I recently had a dream that played out in the cartoon universe of my food-delivery app, the dashboard software that guides my daily work life. The dream turned my workaday drive into a third-person video game, with my cartoon car standing in for me as protagonist. At some point, I started missing some of the streets, and the little line that marks my trail with blue pixels indicated where I’d gone off-road. My path got erratic, and the dream became other-worldly, as dreams eventually do. I drove over cartoon sidewalks, through cartoon buildings and cartoon parks. It’s a two-dimensional world in the app, so everything was flat. Through the unique logic of dreams, I survived all of this, all the while picking up and dropping off deliveries and making money. In my dream, I was making progress.

    As my REM cycle intensified, my dream concluded. I was jolted from my two-dimensional app world and thrust back into the reality of the living world—where I could understand the suffering, carnage and death I would have caused by my in-app actions. There were bodies strewn along the streets, screaming bystanders, destroyed lives, chaos. My car, by contrast, was indestructible while I was living in the app.

    The social justice vigilantism I was living on Twitter and Facebook was like the app in my dream. Aggressive online virtue signaling is a fundamentally two-dimensional act. It has no human depth. It’s only when we snap out of it, see the world as it really is, and people as they really are, that we appreciate the destruction and human suffering we caused when we were trapped inside.
    You can listen to the audio here

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    Default Re: Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    Can also be seen in critical theories taught in U.S. grad schools in the 1980s. The points about power, control, and even knowledge, for example, can be seen in Foucault's writings, which in turn borrows from Nietzsche.

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    Default Re: Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control

    another former social justice warrior describers her journey back to sanity. good stuff. 21 mins long:

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    I cannot share details about my son’s case because of a confidentiality agreement with the university. There were no criminal charges filed against him and we haven’t filed a lawsuit, so there is no public information about his case. His story is the same one that is happening all too frequently – drunken consensual sex that the young woman (usually many months later) decides was not consensual because she was drinking. Even though the accused man may have been in a worse state of intoxication and the accusing woman may have been sexually aggressive, if she later decides she was unable to consent, in today’s climate on a college campus the accused student will essentially be guilty until proven innocent.

    https://www.facecampusequality.org/stories-8

    This is an example of extreme prejudice. It is also, in a way, extremely insulting to women--as if they have no agency. Very disturbing. Young women who are raped have to call the police immediately and if they don't, there shouldn't be a case. Deciding you were raped months later? For God's sakes, that is so stupid.

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    It might be worth looking into James Lindsay, if you haven't yet, Mike.

    He co-authored a book called Cynical Theories, the substance of which ties very directly to the topic of this thread. New Discourses is his website, and Helen Pluckrose was his co-author.

    The links on their names go to their twitter accounts.
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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    It might be worth looking into James Lindsay, if you haven't yet, Mike.

    He co-authored a book called Cynical Theories, the substance of which ties very directly to the topic of this thread. New Discourses is his website, and Helen Pluckrose was his co-author.

    The links on their names go to their twitter accounts.


    cool, thanks bro. I am familiar with him. I like him a lot. And Helen, she's great too.

    you might get a laugh out of this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...and-Co-Discuss

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    Couldn't resist. Thought you might get a chuckle outta this little vid Mike.


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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Keri Smith is brilliant and articulate. She describes a bit about her journey into the SJW cult and gives us all the ins and outs of being in such a cult. She dissects social justice and clinically explains it's origins and motivations. Fascinating to hear it from someone who once held the beliefs so fervently. Gives me some hope. 15 minutes long.

    I like this lady, very fair, very savvy. She has a lot of interesting things to say, all shaped by her unique perspective as a former SJW. Here she is again in a thought-provoking conversation. It's not all about Trump, or the election, but it covers a host of subjects, particularly in the long version, current to what is happening in the world today. Some powerful red-pill stuff too:

    20min clip


    The full video (well worth the time)
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Keri Smith is brilliant and articulate. She describes a bit about her journey into the SJW cult and gives us all the ins and outs of being in such a cult. She dissects social justice and clinically explains it's origins and motivations. Fascinating to hear it from someone who once held the beliefs so fervently. Gives me some hope. 15 minutes long.

    I like this lady, very fair, very savvy. She has a lot of interesting things to say, all shaped by her unique perspective as a former SJW. Here she is again in a thought-provoking conversation. It's not all about Trump, or the election, but it covers a host of subjects, particularly in the long version, current to what is happening in the world today. Some powerful red-pill stuff too:

    20min clip


    The full video (well worth the time)
    ~~~

    Wonderful, thanks. Keri Smith is VERY VERY bright. I really enjoy hearing her talk. (but maybe more of her, a little less of Tim )

    As Paula mentioned above, she's co-host of the YouTube channel Unsafe Space:
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    Here's a continuation of the interview in Mike's opening post, in the form of more extracts with Keri Smith. It's all 100% solid gold.

    Why "social justice" is a toxic, evil ideology:
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    How people become indoctrinated into the SJW ideology: (9 mins)


    (And in a follow-up interview, 11 days later)

    What social justice ideology is: (10 mins)

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    Here's Keri Smith's 13 May, 2017 Medium article, which became quite celebrated. A remarkable act of courage, as well. A short read, but it affected a great many people.
    On Leaving the SJW Cult and Finding Myself

    I’ve been undergoing a pretty significant change in the way I interpret the world and how to ‘be’ in it. As I’ve grappled with how to understand my shifting perspective, I’ve found that writing down my thoughts has helped to put them in some kind of order, so this is an attempt to continue doing that. I know some of my friends have wondered why I’ve lately been so critical of the left, my home, so I wanted to share with you what a vocal part of my particular and admittedly self-selected echo chamber is like.


    A tolerant pacifist who does not believe in political correctness or genocide and is most certainly against fascism.

    For the record, this is not illustrative of all of the left or even and especially of all of my liberal friends. (That shouldn’t have to be said, but we seem to have spell out things like that these days.) In fact, I’m partially writing this because I know a lot of my liberal friends are blessedly NOT privy to this part of the left.

    I was talking with a friend who is also liberal and she does not see this kind of stuff regularly, like I do. In the venn diagram that is Facebook, I hope you don’t find yourself overlapping with this circle, or maybe I do, because my vantage point may shed some light on why my beliefs are changing, and on where I see things possibly headed.

    I see increasing numbers of so-called liberals cheering censorship and defending violence as a response to speech. I see seemingly reasonable people wishing death on others and laughing at escalating suicide and addiction rates of the white working class. I see liberal think pieces written in opposition to expressing empathy or civility in interactions with those with whom we disagree. I see 63 million Trump voters written off as “nazis” who are okay to target with physical violence. I see concepts like equality and justice being used as a mask for resentful, murderous rage.

    The most pernicious aspect of this evolution of the left, is how it seems to be changing people, and how rapidly since the election. I have been dwelling on this Nietzsche quote for almost six months now, “He who fights with monsters, should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”

    How easy is it for ordinary humans to commit atrocious acts? History teaches us it’s pretty damn easy when you are blinded to your own hypocrisy. When you believe you are morally superior, when you have dehumanized those you disagree with, you can justify almost anything. In a particularly vocal part of the left, justification for dehumanizing and committing violence against those on the right has already begun.

    I don’t yet know what to call this part of the left. Maajid Nawaz calls them the “Regressive Left.” Others call them SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) or the Alt-Left. The ideology is post-modernist cultural Marxism, and it operates as a secular religion. Most are indoctrinated in liberal elite colleges, though many are being indoctrinated online these days. It has its own dogma and jargon, meant to make you feel like a good person, and used to lecture others on their ‘sin.’

    “Check your privilege” — much like “mansplaining” and “gaslighting” — all at one time useful terms — have over time lost a lot of their meaning. These days I see them most frequently being abused as weaponized ad hominem attacks on a person’s immutable identity markers….a way to avoid making an argument, while simultaneously claiming an unearned moral highground in a discussion.

    I have been wondering why more people on the left are not speaking up against violence, in favor of free exchange of ideas and dialogue, in favor of compassion. But I know why. I was in the cult. Part of it is that you are a true believer, and part of it is that you are fearful of being called an apostate — in being trashed as a sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, fascist, white supremacist nazi.

    A friend recently wrote to me privately to say they find my latest posts “refreshing,” and that they believe in free speech, but as someone who works in entertainment, they can’t say anything that might cause them to lose their job. As someone who has gone through and is still going through a change in my underlying systems of belief, I can say this: when you finally get past fear, it is so liberating. After a lot of self-reflection, I eventually came to the opinion that if I lose friends or jobs over trying to speak and find the truth in situations, and to do so in a way that reflects my belief in compassion, then perhaps those were not friends or jobs that were healthy for my growth.

    Since shedding the prison of my former ideology, I have a renewed passion for reading, a newfound interest in philosophy, psychology, history and spirituality. Instead of trying to fix others, these days I try to focus on improving myself, which I can tell you is a *much* harder though less futile endeavor. I question myself daily. I try to make a gratitude list daily. I try to meditate, although I admit I’m pretty shitty at it so far.

    I observe my emotional response to stimuli, then try to let it pass and practice empathy in my disagreements with others. Many times I fail, but over time it is getting easier (though I doubt it will ever be easy). I believe I finally understand that quote, “Be the change you want to see in the world.” It is not enough to speak about a belief in equality, justice, liberty, tolerance and love if by your actions you are illustrating the opposite by dehumanizing people, calling for their murder, justifying physical violence against them. Your actions speak louder than words.

    What example are we each setting with how we act in the world? I am reminded here of Daryl Davis, the musician who is bringing people out of the KKK by befriending them. What an evolved character he must possess. What a mode of being to aspire to be like, to set your course towards. I believe taking on the task of honestly assessing and trying to improve my character, and speaking up for principles of equality, justice, free speech, liberty, peace and love in a WAY that supports those principles rather than increasing resentment, hatred, and murderous rage, is the way to change the world. If that makes me a moron, a naive peacenik, a privileged bigot — a heretic — in your ideology, so be it.

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    I think the current cult consists of the ff. elements:

    "Social justice" is an idea that spans several thousand years, and can be seen in collections like the Old Testament, especially in the Book of Amos and protection of widows, orphans, the poor, and the sick. It can also be seen throughout Western philosophy, and gained fruition during the Renaissance.

    "Marxism" refers to a series of points raised by Karl Marx and partly inspired by, among others, thinkers like Hegel, which argued that ideas strongly influence cultures, that human societies have an economic base, that history has been inscribed by class struggle which leads to suffering, and that the only way to stop that suffering is to empower the largest group that have been abused by the rich, namely the working class. The same working class protested with or without agitation from Communists during the nineteenth and twentieth centuries because oppression was taken place: the poor who couldn't pay debts were taken to prison, children were forced to work in factories and farms, workers were forced into terrible conditions, and so on. Many of the ideas employed in Western democracies today, such as public education, the minimum wage, and various rights awarded to workers, are seen in Marx's "ten planks."

    "Critical theory" was partly inspired by that aspect of Marxism which looks at how ideas strongly influence cultures and is probably called so because it theorizes on theories about society, such as eugenics and the superiority of certain races, the hard sciences, art, and so on.

    Finally, there's "late capitalism," where societies reach a stage of prosperity thanks to industrialized capitalism, such that members who, with more leisure time and exposed to more ideas, now start attacking each other based on ideologies. In the case of this cult, they stem from the three ideas given above. In the case of opposing cults, like traditionalism and conservatism, they stem from idealized views of the past, especially those involving family, law and order, and other points which Marx attacked because he argued they were merely used by the powerful to control the rest.

    Meanwhile, for most of the world (where, according to the World Bank, 71 pct earn less than $10 daily), social justice takes on a very different form.

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