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    Quote Why do we get bogged down in semantics/systems/ideas such as communism or capitalism when the universe is constantly evolving, the past no longer exists and the future is one of possibilities?

    Why not create a new model and a system outside anything that has been discussed before? Why not call it a new name? Could we look at having a new new world? Why not create a new model and a system, and a way of being that honours all beings and co-create a world that we all want to see?

    Everyone here agrees that we don't like the way that the world is currently heading and that there are things that we do want for ourselves and each other which still can be discussed.
    Truly, if we want heartfelt answers to the biggest issues of our lifetime, it is time to get creative.

    I fully and wholeheartedly agree, Constance.

    What I am attempting is to be bring back definitions to a common ground so we can have conversations where we are all on the same page. We cannot discuss if and until we are speaking of the same thing. Some definitions have been completely blocked of meaning by groups who have tried to own a topic, by defining words in an entirely new way, almost as if on purpose to make discussion impossible - only division and antipathy. Black's Law dictionary comes to mind, with its entirely different interpretations of common words like 'is' for example.

    The other thing is that none of this is an accident. I always remember the story of the tower of babel. How did they suddenly confuse their language so no one understood their neighbors? Maybe they didn't speak different tongues but suffered division by a subversive force that commandeered language and turned it into a weapon. It seems much more likely, and it would have seemed as though various factions were speaking different languages...just like it seems today. We use the same words but they have different meanings depending on the individual, this makes communication very difficult.

    When I look you in the eye, words are still important but your intent is written all over you. I can stay on track by intuition and union with spirit.

    When we converse over the internet we have only our words. They must be remain precise and free of dilution by opinion and sentiment, unless by unanimous consent.

    Otherwise our utterances are merely unintelligible grunting.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
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    Here is a link to a lecture given by G. Edward Griffin on April 3, 1969. There is for my money no better lecturer alive today than he was, and is--even at his advanced age.

    The title is More Deadly Than War. He discusses the revolutionary process of Socialism on its march to Communism. What he described in 1969 and prior thereto is even more pertinent and compelling today. The totalitarian playbook of the communists has not changed. Time has passed, new actors have stepped on the stage, but the program has not changed. And that is bad for freedom-loving people everywhere.

    After providing many historically accurate and convincing details, the ultimate point he makes in 1969 is that the enemies are within the gates and time is short. In 1969 he says that "We are past the point of painless solutions." 51 years have passed since he gave this lecture. How painful will it be now? And for who?

    He describes the issues and suggests solutions.

    One hour and 14 minutes. Please do watch and understand.


    You were right, that video should be watched by everyone. It is very informative.

    But even Mr Marshall makes clear that the systems in place we call communist are not that at all, since communism cannot be implemented unless the whole world is involved and all its people.

    He makes clear that these states are socialist, not communist.

    Still, the video is a very important watch, especially for Americans.
    Not quite accurate. I watched it last night. He makes clear that it’s a communist tactic to label the actions, behaviours and agendas of their communist allies as ‘socialist’ as a way to hide their communist behaviours under the more benign guise of socialism. Socialism as the Trojan horse that makes communism appear palatable to the middle classes. Behind the socialist facade however, he’s warning that it’s very much the communists who are running the show and pulling the strings.

    The revolutionary process of socialism on its march to communism” as Satori already described it.

    To make the distinctions clearer

    Communism = the end goal.
    Socialism = the Trojan horse that pushes the communist agenda forward.
    Communists = those implementing the highly destructive and subversive plan of global enslavement.

    A very poignant warning, detailing some of the broader social engineering tactics that we’ve all witnessed erode the fabric of society since the time of it’s filming in 1969.

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    Police taped off the parking lot of this Valu-Mart grocery store in Minden, Ont., Shortly after 8 a.m. Wednesday, police were called after a man allegedly refused to wear a mask and allegedly assaulted a store employee. (CBC)

    Ontario's police watchdog is investigating after officers fatally shot a 73-year-old man in Haliburton County on Wednesday morning.

    The man had refused to wear a mask and allegedly assaulted a grocery store employee before driving away, Ontario Provincial Police say.

    Police were called to a Valu-Mart in Minden, Ont., just after 8 a.m., OPP Sgt. Jason Folz said.

    Officers tried to stop the suspect's car, but they refrained "in the interest of public safety" before doing a follow-up investigation, Folz said.

    Ontario's Special Investigations Unit (SIU) said the man drove away, and an officer saw the car and started following it for a short while. Based on the licence plate, officers made their way to a home on Indian Point Road, the SIU said.
    2 officers fire guns, says SIU

    Outside the home there was an "interaction," and two police officers fired their guns, the SIU said.

    Folz said that after shots were fired, "additional resources" were brought to the area near Eagle Lake, by the village of Haliburton, about 215 kilometres northeast of Toronto.

    The man was shot and taken to hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 11:47 a.m., the SIU said.

    Folz said the victim was from the Eagle Lake area.

    In a news release issued Thursday morning, the SIU said investigators had recovered a pistol and a semi-automatic rifle from the scene. The firearms of two police officers were also taken into evidence, the agency said.

    Investigators are continuing to search the scene Thursday, the SIU said, and also making attempts to locate the man's next of kin.

    A post-mortem examination is set to be conducted Friday morning. Four OPP officers have been designated witnesses to the shooting, and arrangements for interviews are underway, the SIU said.
    Tianna Frances, a worker at the Valu-Mart in Minden, says: 'If we didn't have to force him and ... tell him that he couldn't come into the store, nothing would have happened really. He would have got his groceries and went along with his day.' (CBC)

    People at the grocery store had concerns about the way the man was driving in the parking lot and on the highway, Folz said.

    Tianna Frances, a worker at the Valu-Mart in Minden, said she arrived for her shift at the grocery store shortly after the police were called.

    "When I got here everyone was talking about it," Frances said. "My coworkers were a little bit shaken up, yes."

    Frances was told that the man didn't want to wear a mask and she and other employees had to explain politely to other customers that an incident had happened earlier when they asked why the police were there.

    "I guess he just got angry and didn't want to. We couldn't really deal with that ourselves because it's really against the rules. So we had to call the police and everything," Frances said.
    OPP Sgt. Jason Folz could not confirm if the victim had a weapon.

    Frances said workers shouldn't have to enforce the mandatory mask policy issued by the Haliburton, Kawartha, Pine Ridge District Health Unit. The policy, "Use of Non-Medical Masks in Commercial Establishments," took effect on 12:01 am on Monday.

    It's causing chaos, she said.

    "If we didn't have to force him and ... tell him that he couldn't come into the store, nothing would have happened, really. He would have got his groceries and went along with his day."

    Andrew Monkhouse says companies need to plan for difficult customers with clear policies and training for employees to help reduce tension. 5:26

    Lynda Easton, manager of the Valu-Mart in Minden, began to cry when asked about the incident on Wednesday.

    "I want to congratulate my staff for how they handled the situation. It was very challenging today. They are the heroes. I don't want to get emotional. They deserve the credit. That's all I want to say," Easton said.

    The SIU said four investigators and two forensic investigators have been assigned to the case.

    The unit is asking anyone with information to contact the lead investigator at 1-800-787-8529. The SIU is also urging people with any video evidence to upload it through the SIU website.

    Earlier on Wednesday, Ontario Provincial Police said they were investigating a "serious criminal matter" near Haliburton.
    A sign in the store explains the mandatory face mask policy. (CBC)

    On Twitter, the OPP had asked people to stay away from Indian Point Road near Eagle Lake but said there was no concern for public safety.

    An OPP official confirmed they had asked people to stay inside while looking for a male suspect in the Indian Point Road area.

    The SIU probes incidents involving the police that have resulted in serious injury, death or allegations of sexual assault.

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