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    This is weird and scary. I have never drunk energy drinks and now I definitely never will! I wonder how they came up with these experiments and what the ingredients are that are causing these strange reactions.


    https://www.facebook.com/tednugent/v...738997998/?t=0

    update later the same day: Can't believe how naive I was to take this at face value!
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    This is weird and scary. I have never drunk energy drinks and now I definitely never will! I wonder how they came up with these experiments and what the ingredients are that are causing these strange reactions.


    https://www.facebook.com/tednugent/v...738997998/?t=0
    Pretty sure the guy is just a hobby "magician" and this is his youtube act. For example in the first clip he just had a balloon inside a balloon, and only cut the outside balloon. Easy to spot, when you notice him holding the balloon rather oddly - so he doesn't let the one inside slip out of position.

    Here's Youtube version for those allergic to FB links:
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    I would think he's going to pay for that by being sued by energy drink companies!
    And a lot of people (like me!) are going to angry for being gullible enough to believe it was real.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I would think he's going to pay for that by being sued by energy drink companies!
    And a lot of people (like me!) are going to angry for being gullible enough to believe it was real.
    Hehe, I noticed in the comments, a teacher had got the idea to try some of these in class for a science experiment and it ended up being a class lesson of "don't believe everything you see on the internet" when they discovered none of them was repeatable

    The guy does allude to it being "magic tricks" in his youtube description, but of course when its embedded in FB no one sees that.
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    Yes, it's magic. See this article:
    But still — don't drink the stuff. Humans weren't designed for that!

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    i would advise anyone not to drink any soft drinks including pepsi, coke ect. drink water or proper fruit juice.

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    An energy drink sold as a food is no safer than an energy drink sold as a supplement and vice versa. Both can contain large amounts of caffeine plus additional stimulants and ingredients that can be harmful and many of these products evade labeling laws, which is why it can be difficult to know exactly what is in an energy drink.

    A typical energy drink with 100-200mg of caffeine is not the major concern. The concern with these drinks lies with products that contain high levels of caffeine and multiple stimulants. Many products are combining caffeine with stimulants such as guarana seed, yohimbe and yerba mate. Some drinks also contain synephrine, which is on the banned substance list for many professional sporting agencies and the NCAA.

    Combining high levels of caffeine with other stimulants may cause an electrical disturbance causing a life-threating arrhythmia (heart palpitations). As we’ve seen in several cases in teens and adults, it could potentially lead to cardiac arrest and eventually death. In 2011, there were 20,783 reported emergency room visits in which an energy drink was cited as the primary cause of or a contributing factor to a health problem, compared with 10,068 in 2007. New research shows that consuming just one energy drink can affect blood vessel function.

    Source: https://taylorhooton.org/energy-drin...SAAEgKbC_D_BwE

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    An energy drink sold as a food is no safer than an energy drink sold as a supplement and vice versa. Both can contain large amounts of caffeine plus additional stimulants and ingredients that can be harmful and many of these products evade labeling laws, which is why it can be difficult to know exactly what is in an energy drink.

    A typical energy drink with 100-200mg of caffeine is not the major concern. The concern with these drinks lies with products that contain high levels of caffeine and multiple stimulants. Many products are combining caffeine with stimulants such as guarana seed, yohimbe and yerba mate. Some drinks also contain synephrine, which is on the banned substance list for many professional sporting agencies and the NCAA.

    Combining high levels of caffeine with other stimulants may cause an electrical disturbance causing a life-threating arrhythmia (heart palpitations). As we’ve seen in several cases in teens and adults, it could potentially lead to cardiac arrest and eventually death. In 2011, there were 20,783 reported emergency room visits in which an energy drink was cited as the primary cause of or a contributing factor to a health problem, compared with 10,068 in 2007. New research shows that consuming just one energy drink can affect blood vessel function.

    Source: https://taylorhooton.org/energy-drin...SAAEgKbC_D_BwE
    I'm pretty sure the 50+ grams of sugar (14 teaspoons) per drink isn't helping anyone's health either ... some people drink 3-5 these (sometimes more) every day. Might as well just eat sugar by the 1/4 bag.
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    "Proper" fruit juice, if it comes out of a bottle has been heat treated, so is acidic and lost most of its' nutritional value.
    Better to invest in a good juicer!

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    I'd say the can containing the "drink" is not a healthful container either

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    Not to mention most of them if not all contain Aspertame.

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    I know of people who are so addicted to that stuff, no matter what you tell them about how poisonous a substance it is, they just can't help themselves. Caffeine is so addictive. You almost (and I mean almost) need to trick people into not drinking it.

    We need to find creative ways of reaching people so that they can have clear hearts and minds.

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    I know of people who are so addicted to that stuff, no matter what you tell them about how poisonous a substance it is, they just can't help themselves. Caffeine is so addictive. You almost (and I mean almost) need to trick people into not drinking it.

    We need to find creative ways of reaching people so that they can have clear hearts and minds.
    The Washington Post ran a story years ago about addiction, in particular about addictive substances. The rated many of substances on a scale of 1 to 100. 100 being the most addictive.

    They rated caffeine at 99, nicotine at either 98 or 97, and crack cocaine just below that. Heroin was 4 or 5 from the top something like 94. I was astonished

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    I drink energy drinks, mostly the ones high in B as alcohol seems to leach that rapidly.

    I also take nothing at face value, far too jaded
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    My go to beverage during nightshifts..

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    I know of people who are so addicted to that stuff, no matter what you tell them about how poisonous a substance it is, they just can't help themselves. Caffeine is so addictive. You almost (and I mean almost) need to trick people into not drinking it.

    We need to find creative ways of reaching people so that they can have clear hearts and minds.
    The Washington Post ran a story years ago about addiction, in particular about addictive substances. The rated many of substances on a scale of 1 to 100. 100 being the most addictive.

    They rated caffeine at 99, nicotine at either 98 or 97, and crack cocaine just below that. Heroin was 4 or 5 from the top something like 94. I was astonished
    Thanks for sharing all of that rgray222. It is why coffee is sold on every street corner. It is very much understood what caffeine does to us. Caffeine is mans nemesis.

    On a metaphysical level (you are what you eat whilst you think) All foods are medicine. If you are dehydrated, drinking a cup of coffee is beneficial, however if people drink it every day, it will have the opposite effect. An excess of caffeine in the system speeds up all the energies, and when this happens, you literally cannot think straight, nor stay in the present moment, where all our true empowerment lies.

    Jason Christoff writes here:

    Coffee and Heart Attack, High Blood Pressure and Stroke
    Coffee, without any doubt, is the most dangerous and unhealthy sedative narcotic on the planet. Coffee's extremely destructive capabilities are purposely hidden from the public. When you see a sedative narcotic, which tranquilizes the nervous system and plummets brain function to child IQ levels, we immediately understand that this substance (and the lies around it) are being used as a weapon against the slave class.
    Heart attacks, strokes and high blood pressure are on the incline in our society and the public at large aren't informed of how coffee triggers all three. First, coffee is a diuretic, which means it removes water from the system. This thickens the blood to the consistency of syrup, providing the perfect conditions for high blood pressure, heart attack and stroke. Coffee and its' poisonous load of caffeine that it delivers also triggers a stress response that constricts blood vessels, thickens the blood and causes what's called vasospasm of major arteries.. Vasospasm is the action by which caffeine causes arteries in the heart to go into spasm, triggering a heart attack. Coffee also causes the blood stream to become acidic and it's that acidity that changes the polarity of the blood cells themselves. Blood cells are supposed to be all charged negatively (like the same sides of a magnet), so they all repel and don't clump together. Coffee changes the electrical charge of blood cells, to make them stick together, to increase the chance of stroke, high blood pressure and heart attack. Add in the thickening of the blood because caffeine removes water from the body and the metabolic conditions are just right for disaster.
    Caffeine causes weight gain, cellulite, depression, anxiety, insomnia, heart attacks, strokes, osteoporosis, mood disorders, low IQ, muscle wasting, violent outbursts, irrational behavior, illogical decisions and so much more. Read the book below for more information. That hot cup of poison in the morning could be your biggest problem
    Spiders On Drugs
    Scientists at the United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) have turned their attention from the mysteries of the cosmos to a more esoteric area of research: what happens when you get a spider stoned. Their experiments have shown that common house spiders spin their webs in different ways according to the psychotropic drug they have been given. Nasa scientists believe the research demonstrates that web-spinning spiders can be used to test drugs because the more toxic the chemical, the more deformed was the web.

    * Spiders on marijuana made a reasonable stab at spinning webs but appeared to lose concentration about half-way through.

    * Those on Benzedrine - "speed" - spin their webs "with great gusto, but apparently without much planning leaving large holes", according to New Scientist magazine.

    * Caffeine, one of the most common drugs consumed by Britons in soft drinks, tea and coffee, makes spiders incapable of spinning anything better than a few threads strung together at random.

    * On chloral hydrat, an ingredient of sleeping pills, spiders "drop off before they even get started".

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    I would provide the source for this but the link is now dead.


    ABC News: Caffeine effect on the human brain
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    Everything in moderation means EVERYTHING; but it also means MODERATION.

    I dunno, toxicity is all about dosage

    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    If you are dehydrated, drinking a cup of coffee is beneficial
    I dunno about that, coffee is a diuretic generally not good to drink when dehydrated.

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    Ahh,... I have a very hard time believing that with out extreme amounts of empirical data that proves the opposite of my personal experience with moderate caffeine usage
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Everything in moderation means EVERYTHING; but it also means MODERATION.

    I dunno, toxicity is all about dosage

    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    If you are dehydrated, drinking a cup of coffee is beneficial
    I dunno about that, coffee is a diuretic generally not good to drink when dehydrated.
    Are you aware of the homeopathic remedy for dehydration? It is coffea...

    https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailyme...8&type=display

    And..did you see that video of the mri I shared?

    Moderation does not equal balance.
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    Ahh,... I have a very hard time believing that with out extreme amounts of empirical data that proves the opposite of my personal experience with moderate caffeine usage
    Maybe someone who has the time and the energy could start a thread with all that empirical data. I dunno...

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    I once opened a can of red bull.
    That was enough.

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