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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

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    That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

    If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....
    Already posted the Herodotus reference where he mentions Atlantis 60 years before Plato does. Here it is again incase you missed it the first time around.

    Herodotus — ‘The Histories‘ Book IV v184:
    Quote 184 Rawlinson p162 H & W After another ten days' journey from the Garamantes there is again a salt hillock and water; men dwell there called Atarantes. They are the only men known to us who have no names; for the whole people are called Atarantes, but no man has a name of his own. These when the sun is exceeding hot curse and most foully revile him, for that his burning heat afflicts their people and their land. After another ten days' journey there is again a hillock of salt, and water, and men dwelling there. Near to this salt is a mountain called Atlas, the shape p389 whereof is slender and a complete circle; and it is said to be so high that its summits cannot be seen, for cloud is ever upon them winter and summer. The people of the country call it the pillar of heaven. These men have got their name, which is Atlantes, from this mountain. It is said that they eat no living creature, and see no dreams in their sleep.
    Ahh, haven’t come across that before. I didn’t think to search Atlas. Atlas here though is a mountain, not an island, and there’s no mention of their amazing culture and technology.
    Well yeah, he’s talking about the descendants of Atlantis who are still alive during his time of writing in 400BC. Quite a big gulf of time from the sinking of the original island. Makes sense they would’ve moved to the North West coast of Africa to establish a new colony.

    Herodotus does offer 3 threads to follow though for any astute researcher:

    1. First his spelling of Atlantis is Atlantes. Atlantes is also an architectural style for standing stones with human or animal depictions carved onto them:
    Quote Atlantes is an architectural term used to describe supporting columns in the form of standing or kneeling men, but in ancient times it was the name given by Herodotus, sixty years before Plato, to the inhabitants of the ancient kingdom of Mauretania in north west Africa. The term is also applied to the 15-foot statues in Tula, Mexico.


    2. The name Atarantes. Even Diodorus Siculus was writing about the Atalantoi people in 30BC. Try the book Survivors of Atlantis: Their impact on World Culture by Frank Joseph. Particularly chapter 7 for an enlightening read.

    3. Atlas, king of Atlantis, had 7 daughters. One of whom was Maia. Maia, or Maya (progenitor of the Mayan culture). Maia also happened to be the mother of Hermes in the Greek myths (Egyptian culture and Greek Pythagoreanism). Freddy Silva covers the Atlantis-Mayan connection with a huge amount of evidence based, architectural and anthropological data in his book The Missing Lands: Uncovering Earth's Pre-flood Civilization.

    It’s pretty hard to argue Atlantis is only a metaphorical concept when we have an entire world full of evidence that tells us otherwise.

    Robert Sepehr has put out another video on the topic today as well:


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    There is far too much evidence to corroborate that Atlantis was far more than a myth. It was as real as anything. Many people living right now are Atlanteans reincarnated. The most important work and info about this topic has come from Edgar Cayce, Graham Hancock and the likes of that. Also this is what the Law of One (perhaps the purest channeled material ever) says about the subject:

    Quote Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.

    They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.

    The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.

    Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. The second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately one oh eight two one, ten thousand eight hundred twenty-one [10,821] years in the past according to your illusion. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.
    I prefer the ancient mystics and advanced races were alien theories. I’ve found there is more objective, non-channeled evidence to support that theory.

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    I prefer the ancient mystics and advanced races were alien theories. I’ve found there is more objective, non-channeled evidence to support that theory.
    Well, back then some aliens were indeed, shall we say, more involved with humanity. The Ra-group was one of those and they were the positive oriented ones who were in service to others group. There have been other alien groups too which are on the negative side and they are still more or less influencing humanity and controlling our so called leaders behind the scenes.

    Those who once started humanity have always been part of the process and have wanted to make sure that we stay on the good side and won't destroy ourselves, but there's always that eternal tug of war between forces of light and dark. Humans are in the middle, totally clueless of their own origin and clueless about the nature of themselves too. Such beings are quite easy to control.
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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    Doing a little extra research on my post above, where Herodotus mentioned the Atlantean people living by a mountain called Atlas in North West Africa.

    That mountain is still called Atlas to this day. Check out the similarity in landscape design to the high mountains of Peru:

    The first image is the Atlas mountain in Morocco, inhabited by Berbers. The second image shows the similar green stepped planes in Peru. Looks like the same culture, just migrated to different mountains after the original homeland sank.




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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
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    Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place
    No, it doesn't. It means Island of Atlas. Plato tells Us:

    "...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean...."


    Don't buy into the lies! Atlantis was a continent, a fact settled thousands of years ago. Those who claim it was just a 'city' are the same who insist you look over here at Santorini for the answer, or the Sahara, Malta, Sardinia, Ireland, South America. Atlantis is and always was in the mid-Atlantic. As a continent.

    Most by now must surely be aware of the meddlers and magicians and fake-history constructionists that oversee our paradigm of lies. They promote countless books and countless more television series on just RED HERRINGS. They perform every possible trick to keep people thinking conventional, mundane, and small, anything and everything to keep you off-scent and off-target. Atlantis is just one instance. They also concoct 'persuasive' evidence of Bigfoot being a myth, or just a bear, and Roswell being a weather balloon, or maybe a stray missile. And so on and so on. Wake up and smell the crap. We live in an era of deception, fraud, and suppressed truth. It's essential to their narrative that they keep the public oblivious to things like highly advanced antediluvian civilizations -- to the fact that the last 2,000 years is just a blip on the vast timeline of REAL human history.
    I respectfully disagree with you. Atlantis was a city and it was on an island and the city took up the entirity of it, and they described the lay out of it for us surrounded by water and all so we have an idea of what it looked like with waterways around it. The continent was a whole string of other islands all separate but spanning nearly all the way around the globe north and south as I understand the story and to the point it may as well have been a continent but a continent of islands all apparently related to one and the other and the capitol city was Atlantis! That is why there are books about the "LOST CITY" of Atlantis. The islands including Atlantis all sunk and all that sits above the water of that string of islands now is the Canary Isles which were discussed at length not too long back in some really great videos we had here on several threads.
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    I agree with the general thrust of that, but it isn't and can't be disputed that Atlantis literally means Island of Atlas. It may well have been that the primary city of Atlantis was also called Atlantis, a bit like New York City and New York State. I've no problem with that, and I understand why the distinction may have become muddled over the years. But Atlantis as described in the ancient stories, and remembered in history, was always described first and foremost as an island continent.
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    This image from Google Earth shows a near perfect rectangular area the size of Wales lying on the bed of the Atlantic Ocean nearly 3½ miles down. The site lies 500 miles due west of the Canary Island and about 1,000 miles south-west of Gibralter, in the direction described by Plato. It may, in fact, be what Plato described as the location given to Atlas's twin-brother, who was born after him, and who "obtained as his lot the extremity of the island toward the Pillars of Heracles [Gibralter]".
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    Lightbulb Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    I found a rather interesting article by a Falun Dafa practitioner where he goes into detail about the Atlantis Civilization. (This article didn't need to be Google translated as the pureinsight.org editors had already done the translation):

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    What I Know of Earth's History and Mysteries (1): The Great and Glorious Civilization of Atlantis

    Preface: As the Fa rectification progresses, so do I continuously upgrade my xinxing in Dafa cultivation, assimilating myself to the universe's principles of Truthfulness-Benevolence-Forbearance, and as such, my wisdom deepens and my capabilities strengthen. Dafa has revealed to me, at my realm of cultivation, the truths of different levels, including Earth's history and mysteries. I have written these down to share with fellow practitioners.

    The continent of Atlantis once upon a time had a glorious civilization. This continent existed for ten million years, during which countless civilizations played out over the course of history. Today I will discuss the most glorious period of Atlantis' history, a time 10,000 years ago — the era of the great God Apollo. Why was this period referred to as the Apollo era?

    Because this great dynasty was founded during the time when the God Apollo reincarnated on Earth to disseminate the Fa (just like how in this period of civilization Shakyamuni disseminated the Fa). Apollo brought about great political and military achievements, was brave and adept in combat, obeyed the will of heaven, and defeated all heretic tribes. He unified the nation and became the first Pope. Because he was the one who came to disseminate the Dao, the entire population at the time believed in the God Apollo.

    When Apollo founded the dynasty, he brought together religious and political rule and replaced political power with religion. What followed was a glorious reign that continued for 20 generations of Kings. The Pope of each subsequent generation was known as the Son of Apollo and of Godly bloodline. Their science was completely different from todays. They devoted their efforts into researching science of the human body, paying particular attention to the oneness of heaven and humanity and propagating the orthodox divinely-imparted culture. I will now delve a little into the situation of the Apollo era.

    Their ethnic group was the Anaye, (meaning, the ethnic group of a God's bloodline). The language used at the time was ancient Sanskrit. They had the appearance of white westerners. Their hair was flax-brown or light golden in color. Men were strong and handsome. Women were beautiful and dignified. (They seem to be like today's Ukrainians or white Russians). They mainly wore white or yellow robes. Their national flower was the walnut flower. Their city's architecture was much like the ancient style of western architecture.

    They used an ash-gray-colored stone to build a magnificent palace. The palace walls were engraved with legends, stories, and heroes from the distant past. These engravings were remarkably exquisite and ingenious. Each area's landmark building was a square-shaped tower as tall as 100 meters (approx. 328 feet). The landmark building of the capital was as tall as 200 meters (approx. 656 feet), and cultivators would cultivate at the tower top. These towers were also used to observe the movements of constellations and hold grand religious ceremonies.

    The Apollo era was the peak of the white people's divinely-imparted civilization. Emissaries from every continent were sent to Atlantis to learn advanced technology. Merchants would bring back to their countries the finest handiwork, fabrics, medical technology, medicine, plants, animals, and so on. There was an interesting phenomenon at the time in which the species of plants and animals brought back from Atlantis would survive for only one generation. This was because other countries lacked the divine strengthening (blessings), special soil, and environment that Atlantis had.

    The military was exceptionally strong in the Apollo era. The army was mainly used to defeat rebel armies and heretics. When the army was in combat with an opposing side, they would first call upon an elder monk with outstanding Fa powers who would eliminate evil entities in other dimensions that were causing the conflict and then paralyze the enemy's thoughts. After that, various divine animals were summoned, including fire-breathing dragons, to eliminate the enemy's bodies in other dimensions.

    The injury to the enemy's bodies in other dimensions resulted in their losing the ability to fight in this dimension. Finally, holy knights would command holy soldiers to wipe out the enemy forces. Combat was as such, including naval warfare. Apollo's army was invincible. They had warships that would sail around to whichever continent they pleased, and all would respect them.

    The economies of each dynasty during the Apollo era had great influence over all other continents. Because the Atlantean civilization was divinely imparted, the industries of society, people's wisdom, and technology, including all species of plants and animals, were strengthened by the divine, resulting in everything being great and beautiful. Wheat grains and dates were big.

    Each potato was around four to five kg (approx. 9-11 lbs). Horses at the time were twice the size of todays. Cows weighed 1,800 kg, (approx. two tons). Their items woven from silk were soft and exquisite and came in various patterns and gorgeous colors. Their handicrafts were of superior quality and most aesthetic. All items of clothing were family heirlooms.

    For medicine, cultivators produced a dan that sold well across all continents. This dan was especially effective for many hard-to-treat cases. Atlantis had an exceptionally high moral standard overall. Owing to the influence of religion, people's relationships were very harmonious. Because the religion was practiced by the entire population, everyone treated each other as family. People would share their best things with others and keep less than the best for themselves. Everyone was this way. People were very selfless.

    In the area of trade, besides regular business deals, trading one type of item for another was also favorable. The Apollo era dynasty had an enormous merchant ship that had its own holy navy escort. It engaged in trade around the whole globe. Many riches were gathered and brought back to benefit society and distribute among the populace.

    For marriage, Atlanteans placed emphasis on pure blood and prohibited intermarriage with people of other nationalities. Those of lower social status were only granted permission to marry by an aristocrat. Atlantean women focused on strengthening their wisdom. They were good-looking and refined, and they had good moral values. These women were so ideal that they were the best candidates for any country's Imperial family to get married and become Empress.

    In terms of raising the next generation, when a baby was born, a cultivator was called upon to examine the baby's pre-determined course of life (that was arranged by a God) and help make preparations for the newborn's life. This was to ensure that the child could be raised and educated according to his or her innate skills, thereby growing up to become a useful pillar in society.

    With respect to education, Atlantis incorporated religious schools, which were divided into three grades. Regardless of one's gender, everyone completed the first seven years of elementary education and the subsequent five years of middle grade education. Those with exceptional innate skills were tested before undertaking advanced studies, including high-level religious studies. Higher level religious schools studied a range of classics that covered various subjects such as writing and language.

    The higher the grade of study, the harder the material was to comprehend, and the closer it was to the language used in the white people's heavenly world. One must be a cultivator who had reached an advanced level in order to have his energy, abilities, and Fa power unlocked. Higher level religious schools studied ancient books that contained all sorts of high level secrets related to Fa abilities and ways of cultivation.

    If an ordinary person gained access to these texts by force, their life force would be instantly depleted, their life would be in danger, and it would be difficult to live more than seven days. To be successful in one's studies, one must be a guardian of the truth and an emissary of the divine in the human world.

    History is like a play. Both you and I are actors in this play. There is pleasant music in the play, and then there is the last note that ends it all. As such, the glorious dynasty of the Apollo era could not avoid decline when that part of the play played out. In the final phase of the dynasty, religious politicians altered and badly twisted the meanings of religious teachings for fame and fortune.

    The corruption of religion led to the collapse of morality in the Atlantean society. In the end, all was destroyed by the divine. A huge flood and earthquake caused the continent of Atlantis to disappear. Their once resplendent civilization sank to the bottom of the ocean. We have gone through countless reincarnations. Looking back at past events as though they are right before our eyes, all those outstanding times … all pass by like smoke and clouds.

    Original article:

    http://www.pureinsight.org/node/7529

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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    ... Very interesting - Just curious .. was this information gathered via remote viewing, channeling, clairvoyance or...?


    Thank you

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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    Quote Posted by Luke Holiday (here)
    ... Very interesting - Just curious .. was this information gathered via remote viewing, channeling, clairvoyance or...?


    Thank you

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    I believe it was gathered by a supernatural ability which in Falun Dafa is called 'The Power of Knowing Fate'. The core book of Falun Dafa talks about this ability in depth:

    https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/zfl_2018_2.html#3

    The whole book can be downloaded here. It talks about other dimensions, the soul, the cosmos in the microcosm and the macrocosm, supernatural abilities, karma, healing, the true history of mankind, transcending the 5 elements and leaving the 3 realms and many many other fascinating things:

    https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/Zh...-2018-v1.9.pdf
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    Although Atlantis sounds like a glorious civilisation to us, because of its technological advancements and psychic abilities, we should keep in mind that it was an integral part of humanity's downward spiral.

    Atlanteans were unable to connect to their Heart, that's why ego flourished and led to total destruction.

    At the moment we are much wiser and mature on a soul level than Atlanteans and on an upward direction, evolution. The next generations of humans will experience this much more directly than us. We still have to clean up all the traumas that we produced as Atlanteans.

    Believe it or not, this is a much greater era that we're building.

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    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    When the army was in combat with an opposing side, they would first call upon an elder monk with outstanding Fa powers who would eliminate evil entities in other dimensions that were causing the conflict and then paralyze the enemy's thoughts. After that, various divine animals were summoned, including fire-breathing dragons, to eliminate the enemy's bodies in other dimensions. The injury to the enemy's bodies in other dimensions resulted in their losing the ability to fight in this dimension.
    Finally, a plan for defeating the illuminati.

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    Atlanteans were unable to connect to their Heart, that's why ego flourished and led to total destruction.
    This is still our lesson and if we fail to overcome it then we will indeed face total destruction as a species and perhaps justly so. There's already plenty of karma left from the past, perhaps some is already solved, but there's still a lot of unresolved karma too which needs to purified through events and it will be. It is true that (some) human souls have grown quite a bit since then, but right now we are facing similar and also different issues at the present time.

    At the moment people in general are spirtually very ignorant and in the dark, mostly because they have forgotten their origins. I'm not sure if it has something to do with underactive third eyes. A connection to the spirit has been lost which the Atlanteans had. I hope there will be a larger awakening, because otherwise I feel that only small portions of awakened humanity will get to see the light of a more enlightened era. Heart-based wisdom is the pathway towards salvation.
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    Atlanteans were unable to connect to their Heart, that's why ego flourished and led to total destruction.
    This is still our lesson and if we fail to overcome it then we will indeed face total destruction as a species and perhaps justly so. There's already plenty of karma left from the past, perhaps some is already solved, but there's still a lot of unresolved karma too which needs to purified through events and it will be. It is true that (some) human souls have grown quite a bit since then, but right now we are facing similar and also different issues at the present time.

    At the moment people in general are spirtually very ignorant and in the dark, mostly because they have forgotten their origins. I'm not sure if it has something to do with underactive third eyes. A connection to the spirit has been lost which the Atlanteans had.
    I am absolutely certain that there is no failure this time. Last time, failure was actually part of the "plan" so we could reach the lowest point of our Earth visit (starting much earlier as other races before Atlantis). We did reach it and now the climbing towards the next human level/"race" has begun. H.P. Blavatsky has very good esoteric information about the root races and the direction of evolution on the planet.

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    I hope there will be a larger awakening, because otherwise I feel that only small portions of awakened humanity will get to see the light of a more enlightened era. Heart-based wisdom is the pathway towards salvation.
    I feel the same. Imho, only a small portion of humanity has currently the ability to go to the next level. From those of us who are still incarnated, I am guessing that in the next 2-3 decades, if we're still around, we'll get to see the first solid steps of the new era. Right now, we are about to experience the dismantling of the old world.

    As for the larger awakening, I can't say. My mind says that it's not possible, but who knows. It doesn't really matter anyway. All souls have their journey. Some might wake up now, others will wake up in 200 life times. There's no delay in anything. Just being here on this planet, during this time, is a valuable soul experience for everyone whether they reach an awakening threshold or not.

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    I am almost certain that I have not been here before. And that I will not be back again.

    I came for the show and the experience of a fool's life, a short life of no consequence.

    It has been interesting, and fun even, but I will not come back to such a barbaric planet again. Once is enough for me.

    I'll take the future over this any time. What a time to be alive, though! My friends in the future will never believe what I have seen and what I've been through. It will take me many lifetimes to convince them and many more to recover from the insult of life on planet Earth.

    Bittersweet is a good descriptor. But I will not miss it one slight bit.
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    That's what we all said :-)

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    All I got to say to that is:

    Oh, ****!
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