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    This Is NOT Going Away Unless WE STOP IT

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    He says that there's not going to be a second wave because there never was a first wave.
    This has all been media driven....

    Ppl have bought into this scamdemic so easily.... Why? The majority of ppl trust the experts and the (Mis)Leaders...

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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    This Is NOT Going Away Unless WE STOP IT

    https://www.brighteon.com/9d602e8a-0...e-7b910870ed45

    He says that there's not going to be a second wave because there never was a first wave.

    Ppl have bought into this scamdemic so easily.... Why? The majority of ppl trust the experts and the (Mis)Leaders...
    "He" is Max Igan. I'm not an Igan fan, but there's a great deal of truth in the video — as a warning. I don't think it's going to pan out like this, but the warning is definitely valid.

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    This Is NOT Going Away Unless WE STOP IT

    https://www.brighteon.com/9d602e8a-0...e-7b910870ed45

    He says that there's not going to be a second wave because there never was a first wave.

    Ppl have bought into this scamdemic so easily.... Why? The majority of ppl trust the experts and the (Mis)Leaders...
    "He" is Max Igan. I'm not an Igan fan, but there's a great deal of truth in the video — as a warning. I don't think it's going to pan out like this, but the warning is definitely valid.
    Hello Bill, how do you think it will pan out?

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    I used to pay close attention to Max, but to me he has been going more and more off the rails as of late with the Tartaria stuff and such.

    2025 is another one of those convenient, semi long range predictions, that allows much wiggle room even as that date is finally looming large, it's so easy to say hey folks it's still coming (mass arrests for instance), they're just a bit behind on their scheduling as these things are ever so complex.

    But watch out for 2028 for sure says the next David Wilcock...

    We must fight back he says. From a practical point of view, the most immediate way for the average person to fight back would be to send a message by proudly attending any and every large indoor gathering they can possibly make it to, like wading hip deep into crowded bars and night clubs where everyone must scream in each other's faces in order to be heard over the blaring music.

    For the religious as another example. Not only encourage everyone you can to squeeze into Sunday service shoulder to shoulder, but really set the example by joining the choir.

    If this movement really caught on, how long would it take to prove the "scamdemic" true or false?

    I wonder if it might even be more impactful for participants to video themselves doing so? Show everyone how woke you are to the grand worldwide conspiracy from top to bottom.

    History will judge.

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    If we take our eyes off the jackass self employed narrative jockeys like wilcock and try a little harder to get our heads around the real pragmatic logistics of sorting this mess out, the long wait for arrests makes a logical and actually encouraging sense. The entire justice system started out being totally corrupt and controlled by the very criminals we are waiting to process through that system.

    Even an eight year run at it doesn't quite seem long enough, to me.

    I'm probably as sick and tired of the side shows as anyone else is, but they are not the ones responsible for getting it all done successfully, in the face of what is still a very powerful full spectrum dominance of the mass perception that ultimately has to seal the results into history, or it will all come undone again.
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    If David Icke did not wake some one up they will not be awoken.
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    Quote Posted by Jad (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    This Is NOT Going Away Unless WE STOP IT

    https://www.brighteon.com/9d602e8a-0...e-7b910870ed45

    He says that there's not going to be a second wave because there never was a first wave.

    Ppl have bought into this scamdemic so easily.... Why? The majority of ppl trust the experts and the (Mis)Leaders...
    "He" is Max Igan. I'm not an Igan fan, but there's a great deal of truth in the video — as a warning. I don't think it's going to pan out like this, but the warning is definitely valid.
    Hello Bill, how do you think it will pan out?
    Well, here's my own forecast.

    I think we'll be in this kind of current confusion and conflict (and in some places, open rebellion) for a few more years. Max Igan was stating the lid on the box will be nailed tight shut by 21 March, 2025. (Where did he get that date from??)

    But I don't think it'll be nearly that slam-dunk-game-over cut and dried. There's a lot of life in the human race yet.

    The result and consequences of the coming 2020 US election will have quite a lot to do with all that. I suspect that Trump will be re-elected, but it'll be very close, and there'll be an almighty degree of unrest and conflict (maybe physical in some cases) as a result.

    This will reverberate, as it has been, for another 4 years. After that, I suspect another Republican, a young gun rising star like Madison Cawthorn, may be elected in 2024. That would usher in the end of the very destructive anti-everything socialist uprising in the US.

    China needs to be significantly weakened, and we may hear more about that in the next few months. The EU needs to be weakened as well, and I'd suggest that post-Brexit, that's already in progress.

    But as with many transitions from one state of affairs to another, there'll be a great deal of confusion, misinformation, manipulative propaganda, conflict, and maybe hard times for a while for quite a lot of people, including financially and materially (featuring food shortages in many areas) all round the world. It'll be very testing for many of us.
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    Some american doctors have done a conference saying hydroxicloriquine and zinc works perfectly , they said we have been lied to. Main stream media didn´t cover it. The video had 14 million views in just one day. Facebook is taking it down, youtube has already censor it....
    don´t know how to post it from other places so i leave here a link https://www.facebook.com/10000740124...0285300228152/
    In germany also a group of doctors is telling the truth, here in Spain another group of doctors have create an association to tell the truth, doctores por la verdad. This is clear sign fear is stepping down and truth moving up.
    ANd yes, people are waking up by the minute.... here most people are very well awake, but in webs like facebook is awesome to see more and more people awakening... collective consciousness rising , maybe not as fast as we would like, but it is. SO much love. Namaste
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    Here is another link from Breitbart.
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/...ss-conference/

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    My own forecast hinges completely on the November election - IF it even happens. I don't know if there's a precedent for a cancelled or postponed election, but that's something I was thinking about. Because what happens if 'things' escalate and there's no election at all?

    For Trump and his prospects something's got to give, and before the run-in to the election. If Trump and his administration really do have the dirt, the big dirt, on big players, the time to dish it has to be now or very soon. I believe Durham and Barr have to deliver - and it has to be stunning and it has to be conclusive - to swing it decisively in Trump's favour. The people have got to know exactly what's been going on. They need to know they've been conned, and that the media were complicit in the conspiracy - I'm talking the Russia collusion hoax (and more). If proof of deep state shenanigans really does emerge, I think Trump will romp home in November.

    If there's no resolution however, and if there are no revelations and the status quo remains, one of two things will happen but with similar consequences. Trump will scrape the election, and the opposition will accuse him of cheating (again), and this will spur massive unrest. I hesitate to use the term civil-war, but it will be bad. Alternatively, if he loses, it will be Trump supporters who take to the streets, with their guns and their flags meaning equivalent unrest events. Either way, both ends will be bad.

    The only conclusion that points to anything positive, is the exposure of deep state criminality, and the vindication and exoneration of Trump and his admin - if exoneration is really on the cards. I think there's every reason to expect there is. We'll see.
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    Gosh, I've never heard of Madison Cawthorn, I've been living under a bush far away from US politics!

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    This Is NOT Going Away Unless WE STOP IT

    https://www.brighteon.com/9d602e8a-0...e-7b910870ed45

    He says that there's not going to be a second wave because there never was a first wave.

    Ppl have bought into this scamdemic so easily.... Why? The majority of ppl trust the experts and the (Mis)Leaders...
    "He" is Max Igan. I'm not an Igan fan, but there's a great deal of truth in the video — as a warning. I don't think it's going to pan out like this, but the warning is definitely valid.
    I am with you on not being a Max Igan fan, he is astute in some ways, and has some good information but he confabulates too much, and seems to push his own extreme take on matters!

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    I have spent the last few days sharing information -- some in the form of text from here and some videos, with my son
    He is very intelligent, married with two children.
    Everything I sent was countered with media and some scientific "proof" finally he said no more I cant have you trying to undermine WHO and vaccines, they are safe.
    Im scared for the kids thats why I tried -- nothing extreme -- like the Kennedy debate.
    He believes the UK Government acted in our best interests.

    So will people wake up?
    A few may --it will take something really "In your face" to get the majority to take heed.
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    Hi Greybeard.

    My son is like that too. He's intelligent, has a mind of his own, and that's
    perfectly fine. I very rarely state my opinion to him, he lives hours away so
    we don't meet that often.

    He is a product of these times and probably thinks I'm old fashioned. Maybe I am
    but that's not a bad thing IMO.

    I hope when he sees how things are going wrong in the world he will remember
    the few things I said.

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    I try to take comfort in the fact that I've done my best to find the most credible information and shared it as widely as I could.
    At least the sleepers when they finally awaken, will not be able to claim that no one warned them.
    It's not much, but it's something.
    And I take good care of myself so that I can use my own health as a case in point, if one is needed.
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    It seems that humanity only learns through cataclysms (or does it?), history always repeats itself. People are their own worst enemies.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    A student learns when a student is ready to learn, and not before

    The only thing a teacher can do is recognize that moment

    And they don't happen every day

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    Circa year 50 early christians were pretty sure that the time is at hand. End-game, which was to be followed by Heavenly kingdom on Earth I guess. Well... they are still waiting for it.

    Sure there has been a lot happening since, but still we are here, waiting for something. Waiting someone else to save us.

    Think about it.

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    What I write below after this introduction is a direct quote from a book written by Larken Rose, which was published in 2005 about the time he went to prison for refusing to pay the tax on his income and for speaking out about and against the income tax. The book is titled: How To Be A Successful Tyrant (The Megalomaniac Manifesto) The book is currently out of print. Larken intends to have a second print out, but so far that has not happened.

    I recently told a friend about the book. She tried to get it on line. She could only find it for sale on Amazon. Price: $902.81 (Look it up yourself.) I have a copy of the book that I picked up ten or so years ago. I paid around $15, as I recall. It's worth a lot, but not many people, if any, will pay $902.81 for it. (Numerology anyone?) Maybe that's the plan--price it out of the market of interest and ideas.

    The book is a bit tongue-in-cheek in its style and you must understand when reading it that it is written to "you", the would be successful tyrant. You are the one seeking to be a tyrant or to maintain your tyrannical power. It's a what to do and what not to do big picture of being a successful tyrant.

    All emphasis is in the original.

    Chapter 2

    "FEAR AS A TOOL"

    "Almost all oppression via propaganda is based upon scaring people, and then presenting a false choice where the people can chose either to do what you want them to do, or face some unknown (often purely fictional) horror. This is not the method of the common thug, which can be summarized as 'do this or I will hurt you.' A successful modern tyrant never presents himself as the thing to be afraid of, as doing so would obviously create resentment and hatred in the peasantry, and that leads to resistance.
    '
    "Every 'Thing To Be Feared' (or 'TTBF') with which you terrorize your peasants must be presented as some separate, 'outside' evil that only you can save them from. You must present the simple choice between obedience to you and the threat of some unpleasant happening -- which does not appear to be of your doing and which you pretend to lament the existence of. In short, you must deceive and scare the citizens into voluntarily giving up their freedom.

    'The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.' [Edmund Burke]

    "A simple example would be making up a plague of some sort, assuring the people that millions are doomed to die, and then claiming that giving you a lot of money and control is the only hope of averting disaster. Or perhaps, instead of making up a disease, you can pick a real disease, grossly exaggerating the risk it poses to the peasants, whipping them into a frenzy and then present yourself as their only hope for salvation (which, of course, will require giving you much wealth and power). Recent history gives many examples to build upon, such as AIDS, anthrax, 'mad cow' disease, etc... Even the common flu [edit: SARS-CV-2, a/k/a "Covid 19 disease"] can be used to spread alarm and panic in the peasantry.

    "Conveniently, peasants love promises of protection, but don't usually require much explanation of how you intend to protect them. If you say that giving you ten billion dollars will enable you to 'fight against AIDS,' they will give it to you, without even a vague notion of exactly how doing so might accomplish anything. They don't want a rationale, substantive explanation of a real 'solution'; they merely want someone to say the problem is being fixed, or at least being 'addressed' (whatever that means)." pp. 19-20.

    Apropos in 2005 and even more so today.

    If this was off topic, I apologize. Let me finish with this quote that may be on topic:

    "Until a person is ready to accept an idea, no amount of evidence will convince them of it." (I'm not sure who to give attribution to.)

    There is much in Larken's book, which is a very fast and easy read, that will get people ready to accept the idea of what is going on and how it is done.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I try to take comfort in the fact that I've done my best to find the most credible information and shared it as widely as I could.
    At least the sleepers when they finally awaken, will not be able to claim that no one warned them.
    It's not much, but it's something.
    And I take good care of myself so that I can use my own health as a case in point, if one is needed.
    You certainly have onawah and it has been appreciated.

    And to everyone else who has contributed, including Bill of course for providing the platform.

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