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    Quote Posted by Arak (here)
    Circa year 50 early christians were pretty sure that the time is at hand. End-game, which was to be followed by Heavenly kingdom on Earth I guess. Well... they are still waiting for it.

    Sure there has been a lot happening since, but still we are here, waiting for something. Waiting someone else to save us.

    Think about it.

    It's pretty obvious we've run out of the luxury of waiting, and all those time filling amusments and distractions that went with it. The fire has been brought to our feet.
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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    It all depends on what that individual is waking up to...

    Is the individual waking up to the nature of life or are they only waking up to one or more aspects of their being? A few examples:
    I know an individual who is a UFO experiencer but still advocates vaccines

    I know individuals who are vegans but who have contempt for humanity

    I know individuals who are passionate about the spiritual and emotional wellbeing of their children but who still vaccinate and feed them genetically modified foods

    I know individuals who care about the environment but who still build toxic houses

    I know individuals who are scientists but who still believe we live in a mechanical universe
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    Quote Posted by Arak (here)
    Circa year 50 early christians were pretty sure that the time is at hand. End-game, which was to be followed by Heavenly kingdom on Earth I guess. Well... they are still waiting for it.

    Sure there has been a lot happening since, but still we are here, waiting for something. Waiting someone else to save us.

    Think about it.

    It's pretty obvious we've run out of the luxury of waiting, and all those time filling amusments and distractions that went with it. The fire has been brought to our feet.
    We are it. We have to save ourselves. Are we not the people we have been waiting for?

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    It all depends on what that individual is waking up to...

    Is the individual waking up to the nature of life or are they only waking up to one or more aspects of their being? A few examples:
    I know an individual who is a UFO experiencer but still advocates vaccines

    I know individuals who are vegans but who have contempt for humanity

    I know individuals who are passionate about the spiritual and emotional wellbeing of their children but who still vaccinate and feed them genetically modified foods

    I know individuals who care about the environment but who still build toxic houses

    I know individuals who are scientists but who still believe we live in a mechanical universe
    Yes. Excellent. So true!

    And it can go to the other extreme, as well.
    • Some people wake up to realizing the Earth is flat, and that every scientist. live or dead, has been lying all the time just because they're a scientist.
    • Some people wake up to realizing that Corey Goode is a savior.
    • Some people wake to realizing that every personality in the alternative media is an actor.
    • Some people wake up to realizing that whole mountain ranges are the fossilized corpses of giants.
    One could go on!

    The moral of the story may be that one must never stop using critical thinking, even when one's mind is wide, wide open... or recently opened just a little bit. The propensity for humans to believe they have the truth (and no-one else has!) is enormous. And VERY VERY well-documented in history, too.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    It all depends on what that individual is waking up to...

    Is the individual waking up to the nature of life or are they only waking up to one or more aspects of their being? A few examples:
    I know an individual who is a UFO experiencer but still advocates vaccines

    I know individuals who are vegans but who have contempt for humanity

    I know individuals who are passionate about the spiritual and emotional wellbeing of their children but who still vaccinate and feed them genetically modified foods

    I know individuals who care about the environment but who still build toxic houses

    I know individuals who are scientists but who still believe we live in a mechanical universe
    Yes. Excellent. So true!

    And it can go to the other extreme, as well.
    • Some people wake up to realizing the Earth is flat, and that every scientist. live or dead, has been lying all the time just because they're a scientist.
    • Some people wake up to realizing that Corey Goode is a savior.
    • Some people wake to realizing that every personality in the alternative media is an actor.
    • Some people wake up to realizing that whole mountain ranges are the fossilized corpses of giants.
    One could go on!

    The moral of the story may be that one must never stop using critical thinking, even when one's mind is wide, wide open... or recently opened just a little bit. The propensity for humans to believe they have the truth (and no-one else has!) is enormous. And VERY VERY well-documented in history, too.
    And the way that one can navigate through this may be: is it practical, simple, natural, whole, here and now?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    It all depends on what that individual is waking up to...

    Is the individual waking up to the nature of life or are they only waking up to one or more aspects of their being? A few examples:
    I know an individual who is a UFO experiencer but still advocates vaccines

    I know individuals who are vegans but who have contempt for humanity

    I know individuals who are passionate about the spiritual and emotional wellbeing of their children but who still vaccinate and feed them genetically modified foods

    I know individuals who care about the environment but who still build toxic houses

    I know individuals who are scientists but who still believe we live in a mechanical universe
    Yes. Excellent. So true!

    And it can go to the other extreme, as well.

    • Some people wake up to realizing the Earth is flat, and that every scientist. live or dead, has been lying all the time just because they're a scientist.
    • Some people wake up to realizing that Corey Goode is a savior.
    • Some people wake to realizing that every personality in the alternative media is an actor.
    • Some people wake up to realizing that whole mountain ranges are the fossilized corpses of giants.

    One could go on!

    The moral of the story may be that one must never stop using critical thinking, even when one's mind is wide, wide open... or recently opened just a little bit. The propensity for humans to believe they have the truth (and no-one else has!) is enormous. And VERY VERY well-documented in history, too.

    Haha . . . I know you are a very cerebral kind of person Bill, and I wouldn't really expect you to use any other term for what you are aiming at when you insist it's "critical thinking"


    But, there are other ways of doing it, that dont keep us so stuck in our heads .





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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Haha . . . I know you are a very cerebral kind of person Bill, and I wouldn't really expect you to use any other term for what you are aiming at when you insist it's "critical thinking"
    Critical thinking simply means being smart about how one reaches conclusions.

    You do it when you're driving, getting married (well, maybe! ), buying a house, taking a job. It can help!

    But to make good decisions of any kind, one has to use both sides of one's brain (so to speak) — always. My MBTI (Myers Briggs) shows off-the-scale N (intuition) and balanced T/F (thinking/feeling).

    So those who know me well understand that I'm not that "cerebral". I have a high IQ, but also a high EQ and SQ. I've worked quite hard at all that over the years. But then, I've been around for a while.


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    This Is NOT Going Away Unless WE STOP IT

    https://www.brighteon.com/9d602e8a-0...e-7b910870ed45

    He says that there's not going to be a second wave because there never was a first wave.

    Ppl have bought into this scamdemic so easily.... Why? The majority of ppl trust the experts and the (Mis)Leaders...
    "He" is Max Igan. I'm not an Igan fan, but there's a great deal of truth in the video — as a warning. I don't think it's going to pan out like this, but the warning is definitely valid.
    Hello Bill, how do you think it will pan out?
    Well, here's my own forecast.

    I think we'll be in this kind of current confusion and conflict (and in some places, open rebellion) for a few more years. Max Igan was stating the lid on the box will be nailed tight shut by 21 March, 2025. (Where did he get that date from??)

    But I don't think it'll be nearly that slam-dunk-game-over cut and dried. There's a lot of life in the human race yet.

    The result and consequences of the coming 2020 US election will have quite a lot to do with all that. I suspect that Trump will be re-elected, but it'll be very close, and there'll be an almighty degree of unrest and conflict (maybe physical in some cases) as a result.

    This will reverberate, as it has been, for another 4 years. After that, I suspect another Republican, a young gun rising star like Madison Cawthorn, may be elected in 2024. That would usher in the end of the very destructive anti-everything socialist uprising in the US.

    China needs to be significantly weakened, and we may hear more about that in the next few months. The EU needs to be weakened as well, and I'd suggest that post-Brexit, that's already in progress.

    But as with many transitions from one state of affairs to another, there'll be a great deal of confusion, misinformation, manipulative propaganda, conflict, and maybe hard times for a while for quite a lot of people, including financially and materially (featuring food shortages in many areas) all round the world. It'll be very testing for many of us.
    I live in Madison Cawthorn's North Carolina district and voted for him in the recent runoff election. No one could understand why Mark Meadows was supporting the woman who ran against him, who seemed to be running away from any interaction with the public before the runoff.

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    Haha . . . I know you are a very cerebral kind of person Bill, and I wouldn't really expect you to use any other term for what you are aiming at when you insist it's "critical thinking"
    Critical thinking simply means being smart about how one reaches conclusions.

    You do it when you're driving, getting married (well, maybe! ), buying a house, taking a job. It can help!

    But to make good decisions of any kind, one has to use both sides of one's brain (so to speak) — always. My MBTI (Myers Briggs) shows off-the-scale N (intuition) and balanced T/F (thinking/feeling).

    So those who know me well understand that I'm not that "cerebral". I have a high IQ, but also a high EQ and SQ. I've worked quite hard at all that over the years. But then, I've been around for a while.

    Many people confuse Critical Thinking with being negative and argumentative! The skills necessary for critical thought have a long and thankfully well documented history but not everyone 'gets it' unfortunately, the classical personalities of Aristotle, Socrates, Archimedes, Pythagoras, (ET Al) who popularised some ancient teachings they themselves discovered from much more ancient teaching and conventions - even though this lineage is freely available to anyone who wishes to delve, is not taken up universally. Reinventing the wheel wastes so much time, but our efforts all too frequently amount to just this!

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    as a Brit i simply cannot believe what is happening, its like the Nazi's all over again, what are we to do when doctors are ignored?

    A vaccine for this virus won't work, there's been a vaccine for the common cold since 1945 yet we still have the flu.

    our PM Boris Johnson has just forked out 500 million for this so called vaccine, which is nothing more than a t cell immunity booster (which lasts for 56 days).

    i used to think that China, the UK, Germany, the US and Russia where the major super powers but it seems that its actually the big pharmacy's corporations that rule this world.

    does the future for this planet mean a medicated society living in a planetary prison of hyper surveillance and control?

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    as a Brit i simply cannot believe what is happening, its like the Nazi's all over again, what are we to do when doctors are ignored?

    A vaccine for this virus won't work, there's been a vaccine for the common cold since 1945 yet we still have the flu.

    our PM Boris Johnson has just forked out 500 million for this so called vaccine, which is nothing more than a t cell immunity booster (which lasts for 56 days).

    i used to think that China, the UK, Germany, the US and Russia where the major super powers but it seems that its actually the big pharmacy's corporations that rule this world.

    does the future for this planet mean a medicated society living in a planetary prison of hyper surveillance and control?
    Hi roguemoon, another Brit here and I hear you.

    But I think we already deeply living in a "medicated society living in a planetary prison of hyper surveillance and control".
    My fear is all the mass of people, that has been swept up and put in tight little non-thinking conditions has greatly increased, are they norm of the future 0.o
    with people like us being very cleverly manoeuvred to the fringe of society

    All those "people" that supposedly run all those country's you mentioned are just the:
    face, puppets and other names and titles I cant type here,
    of the interrelated and coordinated monopoly game players that see us as no more than:
    commodities, items of fun. sadistic abuse, pleasure pieces. Not living, caring people with feelings.
    Feelings I hear them say?
    Its all a game and we live on the fringe of, as compared too the many that are Buried in it all.
    I really do hope the tide is turning and that we have had an environment of enlightenment long-enough to save our futures.
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    Quote Posted by roguemoon (here)
    as a Brit i simply cannot believe what is happening, its like the Nazi's all over again, what are we to do when doctors are ignored?

    A vaccine for this virus won't work, there's been a vaccine for the common cold since 1945 yet we still have the flu.

    our PM Boris Johnson has just forked out 500 million for this so called vaccine, which is nothing more than a t cell immunity booster (which lasts for 56 days).

    i used to think that China, the UK, Germany, the US and Russia where the major super powers but it seems that its actually the big pharmacy's corporations that rule this world.

    does the future for this planet mean a medicated society living in a planetary prison of hyper surveillance and control?
    It is at least what the technocrats and elites (who are one it seems) have been planning all along. The masses brainwashed by the mass media and puppet politicians seem to 'allow' or almost 'want' it.

    I wish I could be more optimistic right now but it is hard for me to admit. What is our way to stop them?

    What is our way to wake up at least more people which could help to stop what is in store for us now?

    Years ago it was said in many conspiracy and alternative circles that the people are waking up in droves and there will be a consciousness shift soon. It was optimistic. Too optimistic it seems.

    Today we have to admit that albeit many still wake up that the curve's upward slope of awakened has flattened considerably (mathematically it's the diminishing returns graph) so that there is no critical mass or 100th monkey reached. And probably never will be?

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    If David Icke info. made available around the world did not wake people
    nothing will.

    Unfortunately too many people have been harnessed psychologically with
    tunnel vision blinders to ever 'get it'.

    I truly feel sorry for them and especially for their kids.
    If kids start off in life in a conditioned frame of seeing the world
    in the way "they" are steering them in, it will indeed become a
    robotized existence for all humanity.

    We can't let that happen.

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    A video on topic I just found by synchronicity (or fate) today:


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    Mustard Seed Carpenters

    Here's Dr Bill Deagle's graphic answer from a number of years ago. I have to say, I love it.
    "Your worst enemy is your unprepared neighbor. You need to distribute these DVDs to your neighbors. Your neighbors may spit in your face now, but when things start to happen they'll be begging you to tell them more.

    Remember, you're what I call mustard seed carpenters. You have a carpenter's wedge, a bag of mustard seeds, and a hammer: And in the little cracks of their stupid skull you're gonna drive in these mustard seeds of common sense and when the water of disaster comes upon their heads the seeds are gonna grow whether they want them to or not and the roots are gonna start splitting their very, very thick skulls."

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    I've hammered many a seed into a many a skull over the years - perhaps too many. Still waiting for the rains to come. And waiting, and waiting, and waiting...

    for a slice of truth to emerge, at long last, on life after death, reincarnation and spirituality; on UFOs, Roswell, abductions and crop circles; on global warming, that it's one giant scam; that Oswald was a patsy and JFK was an inside job, and so was 9/11 and 7/7; on chemtrails and weather wars - that HAARP may not be what you think it is, same for CERN; on black budgets and black programs, and deep black budgets and deep black programs; on your bigfoots and chupacabras and a host of other cryptids; on deep state secrets from MK-Ultra to Majestic 12; on psyops and state-sponsored terrorism; on censorship, surveillance and 5G; on the fact that the mainstream media sits snugly in the pockets of big banks, big business and big tech and cannot ever be trusted; on the secret space program and breakaway civilizations; on vaccines and autism and the long con of western medicine; on ruins on the Moon and ruins on Mars; on the lost history of antediluvian races, technology and wisdom; on the New World Order, on Deep Underground Military Bases, AND on the murdering pedo satanists that rule the world etc. And they have the gall to call me crazy!?
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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    Circa year 50 early christians were pretty sure that the time is at hand. End-game, which was to be followed by Heavenly kingdom on Earth I guess. Well... they are still waiting for it.

    Sure there has been a lot happening since, but still we are here, waiting for something. Waiting someone else to save us.

    Think about it.

    It's pretty obvious we've run out of the luxury of waiting, and all those time filling amusments and distractions that went with it. The fire has been brought to our feet.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
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    Circa year 50 early christians were pretty sure that the time is at hand. End-game, which was to be followed by Heavenly kingdom on Earth I guess. Well... they are still waiting for it.

    Sure there has been a lot happening since, but still we are here, waiting for something. Waiting someone else to save us.

    Think about it.

    It's pretty obvious we've run out of the luxury of waiting, and all those time filling amusments and distractions that went with it. The fire has been brought to our feet.
    We are it. We have to save ourselves. Are we not the people we have been waiting for?

    ES
    Atleast we are our best hope.
    "Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."
    - Albert Einstein

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    Nope, they didn't wake up and will not wake up, the masses became zombies and the infestation is still growing.

    The Zombies have started to attack their neighbours and will soon come after you. Any and all that is against the approved narrative will be attacked and censored.
    They will find you with all their might and remove your brains as they feast on it in happy hunger wanting some more right away.

    You know all the Zombie movies? They where a mockery of what was to come, you the general populace would become zombies and hunt the last few non-compliers to their last standing.

    The Zombie Apocalypse. There is a Zombie right next to you. They are all over the world, drenching the world red in blood and corpses.

    They want your brains, eating it up one after another.

    Rest in peace.

    It's a world of the living dead now.

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    Quote Posted by Kamikaze (here)
    Nope, they didn't wake up and will not wake up, the masses became zombies and the infestation is still growing.

    The Zombies have started to attack their neighbours and will soon come after you. Any and all that is against the approved narrative will be attacked and censored.
    They will find you with all their might and remove your brains as they feast on it in happy hunger wanting some more right away.

    You know all the Zombie movies? They where a mockery of what was to come, you the general populace would become zombies and hunt the last few non-compliers to their last standing.

    The Zombie Apocalypse. There is a Zombie right next to you. They are all over the world, drenching the world red in blood and corpses.

    They want your brains, eating it up one after another.

    Rest in peace.

    It's a world of the living dead now.
    Other than that though, things seem to be sailing along rather well.

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    Default Re: Will People wake now?

    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    A video on topic I just found by synchronicity (or fate) today:

    “Until a person is ready to accept an idea, no amount of evidence will convince him of it.” I think this is a better quote than the one he mentions in the video. Which is “You can’t wake some up who is pretending to be asleep.” (I think I got it right.)

    Both statements speak to the difficulty inherent in persuading someone to agree with a particular point of view that you hold. The trick, if there is one, is in finding that core value or belief in a person that animates or motivates that person, and then building in that to enable the person to come to the realization on their own that, that of which you speak is correct. Not that you are right. But that you are communicating correct information to them from which they can comfortably reach their own conclusion that they are right to accept the information as accurate and then believe it and act on it.

    Not any easy task when it comes to matters of political, economics, religion, sociology, and other grander and weightier subjects. Which leads me to another quote: “It’s easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.”

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