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    Hello Everyone:
    Here is an interesting article! The chinese have come ahead so fast they are in lightning speed.
    chancy

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    China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars
    [The Daily Beast]
    Brendon Hong
    The Daily BeastJuly 28, 2020
    Photo Illustration by The Daily Beast/Getty

    HONG KONG—China launched its most ambitious space mission last week, with a trio consisting of an orbiter, lander, and rover loaded onto a massive rocket that is heading to Mars. The mission is an impressive scientific feat, one that is entangled with Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping’s push to define China as a conquering superpower in space.

    Called Tianwen-1, the Chinese Mars mission involves a seven-month journey to the red planet. When the rocket nears its destination after traveling 39 million miles, it will release the orbiter to scan and map Mars from above, while the lander will carry the rover to the planet’s surface. If everything goes according to plan and the rover maintains communication with ground control on Earth, China will be the second nation to successfully place an operational robot on Martian soil—a significant achievement for a country that is attempting to establish technological supremacy on a global and now interplanetary scale.

    Yet that triumph comes loaded with CCP officials’ desire for space colonization. One senior aerospace engineer and the head of China’s lunar exploration program, Ye Peijian, indicated two years ago that his country’s designs for space expedition mirror Beijing’s plan for the South China Sea—that is, the party seeks to occupy the moon and Mars at any cost.

    “The universe is an ocean, the moon is the Diaoyu Islands, Mars is Huangyan Island,” Ye said at the CCP’s annual plenary session in Beijing two years ago, referencing geological formations that are also known as Senkaku and Scarborough Shoal, and are claimed by Japan, Taiwan, as well as the Philippines. “If we do not go there now even though we can, then we will be blamed by our descendants,” Ye also said. “If others go there, then they will take over, and you will not be able to go even if you want to. This is reason enough.”

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    The message was clear then: it’s a zero-sum game. The party’s officials see space as a place to be conquered, so they are compelled to stake a claim—fast.

    China has designs to become an astral superpower. Details about state funding for space missions are opaque, but in 2018, Beijing earmarked at least $8 billion for the China National Space Administration, second only to the U.S. That amount has almost certainly increased every year since then, with Beijing hastening efforts to establish a permanent presence in space. China already has rovers on the moon. It will likely launch the core module of a space station to low Earth orbit next year. It is laying the groundwork for a crewed lunar mission in the 2030s, with plans to build a base near the lunar south pole.

    And Mars? If we take Ye’s words at face value, then the plan is to seize, annex, and build on top of it.

    NASA’s Perseverance Mars rover is scheduled to launch this week, on July 30. Like Tianwen-1’s as yet unnamed rover, it will hunt for carbon-containing molecules that may point to Martian life in the past, as well as collect dirt samples for scientific analysis.

    After Tianwen-1 left its launchpad, NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine tweeted out well wishes, welcoming China to a small, elite group of nations that are exploring Mars. Yet it is impossible to ignore that the current confrontations between China and the U.S. look more and more like a Cold War with each passing day, and the competing space programs resemble a page out of the ideological showdown between the U.S. and Soviet Union.

    Beijing and Washington have locked horns on every front. The two largest economies in the world are trapped in a spiral of tariffs. China’s military is looking to project its power in new places around the globe, grating against American spheres of influence, particularly in East Asia and the Middle East. And tech companies on either side of the Pacific Ocean are racing to one-up each other, fueled by bonfires of cash from venture capital funds that place bets on both coasts. The competition between China and the United States is multi-pronged, extending beyond the stratosphere too.

    If Tianwen-1 is a success, Xi Jinping will score a major win within the party’s hierarchy, and feed the justification of his decree to remain president for life. Space exploration in any form is an inspiration, and the pride shared by Chinese people while watching a rocket built by their country fly to Mars is pure. Many young people will no doubt heed the call to build careers in STEM fields, or even dream of becoming the first Chinese person to leave footprints on another planet. But the CCP’s extra dimension of conquest taints this legacy, and even maps the potential for conflict beyond our world.

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    Too late, the Nazis did that....

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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    If they can make islands in the south china sea why not give Mars and the Moon a go.
    Good luck with that.

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    So,the Chinese HAVE the technology to cross Van Allen belt and no one is on Moon or Mars by now.
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    So,the Chinese HAVE the technology to cross Van Allen belt and no one is on Moon or Mars by now.
    Hello EFO
    Here is how nasa astronauts went through the Van Allen Belt

    Link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEwMM0REZJQ

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    I doubt that the majority of China's people are going to care all that much about what is going on on Mars or the Moon while their country is in the midst of major flooding and famine. .
    See the thread Turmoil in China...
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    Hello Everyone:
    Here is an interesting article! The chinese have come ahead so fast they are in lightning speed.
    chancy

    Link:
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-want...083528039.html
    Article:
    China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars
    [The Daily Beast]
    Brendon Hong
    The Daily BeastJuly 28, 2020
    Photo Illustration by The Daily Beast/Getty

    HONG KONG—China launched its most ambitious space mission last week, with a trio consisting of an orbiter, lander, and rover loaded onto a massive rocket that is heading to Mars. The mission is an impressive scientific feat, one that is entangled with Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping’s push to define China as a conquering superpower in space.

    Called Tianwen-1, the Chinese Mars mission involves a seven-month journey to the red planet. When the rocket nears its destination after traveling 39 million miles, it will release the orbiter to scan and map Mars from above, while the lander will carry the rover to the planet’s surface. If everything goes according to plan and the rover maintains communication with ground control on Earth, China will be the second nation to successfully place an operational robot on Martian soil—a significant achievement for a country that is attempting to establish technological supremacy on a global and now interplanetary scale.

    Yet that triumph comes loaded with CCP officials’ desire for space colonization. One senior aerospace engineer and the head of China’s lunar exploration program, Ye Peijian, indicated two years ago that his country’s designs for space expedition mirror Beijing’s plan for the South China Sea—that is, the party seeks to occupy the moon and Mars at any cost.

    “The universe is an ocean, the moon is the Diaoyu Islands, Mars is Huangyan Island,” Ye said at the CCP’s annual plenary session in Beijing two years ago, referencing geological formations that are also known as Senkaku and Scarborough Shoal, and are claimed by Japan, Taiwan, as well as the Philippines. “If we do not go there now even though we can, then we will be blamed by our descendants,” Ye also said. “If others go there, then they will take over, and you will not be able to go even if you want to. This is reason enough.”

    What the Hell Is China Doing on the Dark Side of the Moon?

    China’s Space Force Is Way Ahead of Trump’s

    The message was clear then: it’s a zero-sum game. The party’s officials see space as a place to be conquered, so they are compelled to stake a claim—fast.

    China has designs to become an astral superpower. Details about state funding for space missions are opaque, but in 2018, Beijing earmarked at least $8 billion for the China National Space Administration, second only to the U.S. That amount has almost certainly increased every year since then, with Beijing hastening efforts to establish a permanent presence in space. China already has rovers on the moon. It will likely launch the core module of a space station to low Earth orbit next year. It is laying the groundwork for a crewed lunar mission in the 2030s, with plans to build a base near the lunar south pole.

    And Mars? If we take Ye’s words at face value, then the plan is to seize, annex, and build on top of it.

    NASA’s Perseverance Mars rover is scheduled to launch this week, on July 30. Like Tianwen-1’s as yet unnamed rover, it will hunt for carbon-containing molecules that may point to Martian life in the past, as well as collect dirt samples for scientific analysis.

    After Tianwen-1 left its launchpad, NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine tweeted out well wishes, welcoming China to a small, elite group of nations that are exploring Mars. Yet it is impossible to ignore that the current confrontations between China and the U.S. look more and more like a Cold War with each passing day, and the competing space programs resemble a page out of the ideological showdown between the U.S. and Soviet Union.

    Beijing and Washington have locked horns on every front. The two largest economies in the world are trapped in a spiral of tariffs. China’s military is looking to project its power in new places around the globe, grating against American spheres of influence, particularly in East Asia and the Middle East. And tech companies on either side of the Pacific Ocean are racing to one-up each other, fueled by bonfires of cash from venture capital funds that place bets on both coasts. The competition between China and the United States is multi-pronged, extending beyond the stratosphere too.

    If Tianwen-1 is a success, Xi Jinping will score a major win within the party’s hierarchy, and feed the justification of his decree to remain president for life. Space exploration in any form is an inspiration, and the pride shared by Chinese people while watching a rocket built by their country fly to Mars is pure. Many young people will no doubt heed the call to build careers in STEM fields, or even dream of becoming the first Chinese person to leave footprints on another planet. But the CCP’s extra dimension of conquest taints this legacy, and even maps the potential for conflict beyond our world.
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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

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    Quote Posted by EFO (here)
    So,the Chinese HAVE the technology to cross Van Allen belt and no one is on Moon or Mars by now.
    Hello EFO
    Here is how nasa astronauts went through the Van Allen Belt

    Link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEwMM0REZJQ

    Link:
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    Hi chancy,

    Thanks for the videos,but they explain how Apollo missions went to the Moon,while the latest rumors are that nasa lost that technology and now they are unable to cross the Van Allen belt.To that I was referring when I wrote that Chinese HAVE the technology to cross Van Allen belt.

    From Forbes quoting Quora
    How We Lost The Ability To Travel To The Moon
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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    I wouldn't take this seriously. The Chinese faked their spacewalk.
    https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...n-a-water-tank


    Space radiation is probably a lot stronger than what we're being told.
    https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1147.0

    American Moon (English Version)*
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=KpuKu3F0BvY
    (59:40 time mark)


    The proof that the Apollo moon missions were faked is crushing.
    https://www.giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=31034

    (The moderator of that forum banned me and later changed the title of the thread.)

    It's a lot harder to get to the moon than they're telling us.


    The Mars missions might have been faked too. (If these videos are gone, do searches on the titles in https://www.bing.com/ )

    MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes Of Propaganda. PART 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM0bHAXsRio

    MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes of Propaganda. PART 2.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHdvAiz8yUw

    MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes Of Propaganda. PART 3.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fNbnXmV1CQ

    MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes Of Propaganda. PART 4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J_cMoQ_SzE

    MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes Of Propaganda. PART 5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKX9WPpWRg

    MarsFaker: Phoenix Rising. PART 1.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH7vN3oO1Zw

    MarsFaker: Phoenix Rising. PART 2.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUPnNiG81k


    If the alternative info on space radiation turns out to be true, an astronaut will need two meters of lead to protect him inside and beyond the Van Allen belts. A space suit won't protect him on the moon or on Mars. All the astronauts that did spacewalks did so under the Van Allen belts.



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    AMERICAN MOON, 2017
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/eZramDBFkXRU/

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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    The Chinese space program is everything but "lightning speed". Their tech is comparable to what the US and Russia had in the 70s. They are moving slowly but very steadily, which can't be said about the current mess that is NASA.

    The real competition is SpaceX (and maybe later Blue Origin), they move much faster than any state.
    To connect humankind with itself and the Cosmos!

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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    Kind of weird.

    1960 United States decides 60 years ago to go to the Moon. Takes them 8 years to prepare a mission. Then they do 9 (-1) flawless missions there & back with battery packs that power entire air conditioning systems and electrics etc which last for days. Rover jeeps bobbing around the lunar surface with more battery life than a 2020 iPhone. Then nobody ever goes back. The Russians don't even bother trying.

    Then they say they "lost" the mission recordings. Then they say they "lost" the technology and don't know how to get there anymore.

    Then 2020 China plans a mission a mission (actually they announced it a couple of years ago) and they reckon it will take them 18 years to have a manned mission ready ? ("2030"'s)

    Makes ya think



    P.S. quite fascinating stuff posted by Cosmored. I've watched a gazillion moon hoax videos over the years but hadn't seen those. If it really was faked it's either a testimony to the producer's incredible skill and attention to detail or the public's utter gullibility. Can't make up my mind which applies but I've sure always had an open mind about it and would have no problem entertaining the idea they'd do such a thing.

    It was clearly in the public consciousness from early on anyway.

    It's hard to imagine that the later missions at least aren't genuine. Filming the earth's magnetosphere with infra red cameras and watching moon dust effortlessly float up without the assistance of wires when stirred up by the rover wheels or astronaut boots.

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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    Quote watching moon dust effortlessly float up without the assistance of wires when stirred up by the rover wheels or astronaut boots.
    It wasn't fine dust. It was large-grained dust-free sand. The grains were large enough for air resistance to be negligible.

    MoonFaker: Project Sandbox.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl2S8w-ucmc


    Here's something else. Start watching at the 3:10 time mark.

    Apollo 15 Rover Traverse Issue
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPzG_4H0anU


    Check out the evidence of air at the 2:06:30 time mark.

    American Moon (English Version)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY


    This is important.

    Lunar rover on the moon. Was it a RC model? (Extended Edition)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3R2en4p_8


    There's evidence that the mountains in the background were backdrops.
    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

    Go down about half way on this page to where it says, "The Hills Are Alive".
    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

    https://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_6.htm
    https://www.aulis.com/exposing_apollo2.htm

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    I doubt that the majority of China's people are going to care all that much about what is going on on Mars or the Moon while their country is in the midst of major flooding and famine. .
    See the thread Turmoil in China...
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    Hello Everyone:
    Here is an interesting article! The chinese have come ahead so fast they are in lightning speed.
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    Article:
    China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars
    [The Daily Beast]
    Brendon Hong
    The Daily BeastJuly 28, 2020
    Photo Illustration by The Daily Beast/Getty

    HONG KONG—China launched its most ambitious space mission last week, with a trio consisting of an orbiter, lander, and rover loaded onto a massive rocket that is heading to Mars. The mission is an impressive scientific feat, one that is entangled with Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping’s push to define China as a conquering superpower in space.

    Called Tianwen-1, the Chinese Mars mission involves a seven-month journey to the red planet. When the rocket nears its destination after traveling 39 million miles, it will release the orbiter to scan and map Mars from above, while the lander will carry the rover to the planet’s surface. If everything goes according to plan and the rover maintains communication with ground control on Earth, China will be the second nation to successfully place an operational robot on Martian soil—a significant achievement for a country that is attempting to establish technological supremacy on a global and now interplanetary scale.

    Yet that triumph comes loaded with CCP officials’ desire for space colonization. One senior aerospace engineer and the head of China’s lunar exploration program, Ye Peijian, indicated two years ago that his country’s designs for space expedition mirror Beijing’s plan for the South China Sea—that is, the party seeks to occupy the moon and Mars at any cost.

    “The universe is an ocean, the moon is the Diaoyu Islands, Mars is Huangyan Island,” Ye said at the CCP’s annual plenary session in Beijing two years ago, referencing geological formations that are also known as Senkaku and Scarborough Shoal, and are claimed by Japan, Taiwan, as well as the Philippines. “If we do not go there now even though we can, then we will be blamed by our descendants,” Ye also said. “If others go there, then they will take over, and you will not be able to go even if you want to. This is reason enough.”

    What the Hell Is China Doing on the Dark Side of the Moon?

    China’s Space Force Is Way Ahead of Trump’s

    The message was clear then: it’s a zero-sum game. The party’s officials see space as a place to be conquered, so they are compelled to stake a claim—fast.

    China has designs to become an astral superpower. Details about state funding for space missions are opaque, but in 2018, Beijing earmarked at least $8 billion for the China National Space Administration, second only to the U.S. That amount has almost certainly increased every year since then, with Beijing hastening efforts to establish a permanent presence in space. China already has rovers on the moon. It will likely launch the core module of a space station to low Earth orbit next year. It is laying the groundwork for a crewed lunar mission in the 2030s, with plans to build a base near the lunar south pole.

    And Mars? If we take Ye’s words at face value, then the plan is to seize, annex, and build on top of it.

    NASA’s Perseverance Mars rover is scheduled to launch this week, on July 30. Like Tianwen-1’s as yet unnamed rover, it will hunt for carbon-containing molecules that may point to Martian life in the past, as well as collect dirt samples for scientific analysis.

    After Tianwen-1 left its launchpad, NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine tweeted out well wishes, welcoming China to a small, elite group of nations that are exploring Mars. Yet it is impossible to ignore that the current confrontations between China and the U.S. look more and more like a Cold War with each passing day, and the competing space programs resemble a page out of the ideological showdown between the U.S. and Soviet Union.

    Beijing and Washington have locked horns on every front. The two largest economies in the world are trapped in a spiral of tariffs. China’s military is looking to project its power in new places around the globe, grating against American spheres of influence, particularly in East Asia and the Middle East. And tech companies on either side of the Pacific Ocean are racing to one-up each other, fueled by bonfires of cash from venture capital funds that place bets on both coasts. The competition between China and the United States is multi-pronged, extending beyond the stratosphere too.

    If Tianwen-1 is a success, Xi Jinping will score a major win within the party’s hierarchy, and feed the justification of his decree to remain president for life. Space exploration in any form is an inspiration, and the pride shared by Chinese people while watching a rocket built by their country fly to Mars is pure. Many young people will no doubt heed the call to build careers in STEM fields, or even dream of becoming the first Chinese person to leave footprints on another planet. But the CCP’s extra dimension of conquest taints this legacy, and even maps the potential for conflict beyond our world.
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    The competition in welcome!! *Merica!* If it were not for the competition we would not have been first on the moon ... (Publicly anyway, pretty sure we are all over the place in the solar system)

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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    Too late, the Nazis did that....
    I Just rewatched the Finnish Scify movie Iron Sky from (2012).

    Most memorable scene from that film was: In an FN war room, the female president of the USA asked: "what nation has not launched armed weapons into space ?"
    And a representative from Finland slowly rases he's hand.

    To my amzement they have come up with Iron Sky 2 The coming race.(2019)

    Watching Hitler riding a tyrannosaurus Rex into the space ship was hilarious
    otherwise the sequel had not much to offer. Exept they went to inner earth Agartha, and there were Reptiles living there is shape of Margareth Tacher, Stalin and a few others, to get the Vril.

    Agartha, reptile aliens, and Vril is known to me, and I take it seriously.
    But everyone need a laugh sometimes, just a Finnish scify move is funny.
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    Iron Sky https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3653215...f_=tt_pr_ov_vi

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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    Compare & contrast:

    Michael Collins unhappy, introverted and DID'NT see stars: (Apollo Moon Landings)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI&t=2902

    Michael Collins happy, enthusiastic and DID see stars: (Gemini X)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeiN-h5j0e4&t=307

    Explanation for balance:

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    Default Re: China Wants to Be First to Colonize the Moon and Mars

    The cameras (Hasselblad's) they was set as to not catch any star due to set of the settings.

    It boggles my mind that he says "we were never able to see stars from the lunar surface" , Did their visors on their helmet's prevent them to see stars.
    As I recall they were goldplated, how can you see thruogh gold?
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