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    Default Rep. Gohmert Starts Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

    This could be a game changer. Praying he gets good results and no tampering is involved.

    Quote https://www.foxnews.com/media/louie-...irus-treatment

    Gohmert tells 'Hannity' he will use hydroxychloroquine to treat coronavirus: 'My doctor and I are all in'

    By Victor Garcia

    Published July 30, 2020

    Fox News

    Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, told "Hannity" Wednesday that he will soon begin a treatment regimen featuring the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine after testing positive for coronavirus earlier in the day.

    "My doctor and I are all in," Gohmert told host Sean Hannity from quarantine. "And I got a text just before I came on from a dear friend, [a] doctor, who just found out he had it, and he said he started a HCQ [hydroxychloroquine] regimen, too.

    "So zinc, erythromycin, and hydroxychloroquine," the congressman added, "and that will start just in the next day or two."

    TWITTER DELETES VIDEO ON HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE USE TO TREAT CORONAVIRUS PROMOTED BY TRUMP

    Gohmert was scheduled to travel to Texas with President Trump aboard Air Force One Wednesday, but tested positive at the White House during routine screening prior to the trip. Attorney General Bill Barr, who encountered Gohmert Tuesday while testifying before the House Judiciary Committee, tested negative for the virus Wednesday.

    "He [Trump] called me from Air Force One on the way home tonight and I said ... 'Mr. President, if you would not [have] invited me to go with you to West Texas, I would never have known I had the coronavirus,'" Gohmert said. "That's what I got tested for it and then I found out I had it."

    The eight-term Republican, who has frequently refused to wear a mask while performing his duties, denied reports that he berated staffers who do wear masks in an effort to prevent the spread of the virus.

    "I got a tiny little taste of what you and the president get every day," Gohmert told the host. "The left went nuts."
    MODS: I thought this warranted it's own Covid thread for tracking of results as I imagine there will be a lot of flow on if Gohmert's treatment is successful. Now I'm wondering if it should be placed in the Frontline Doctors thread as that is specific to hydroxychloroquine treatment.

    Please move and cancel this thread on your discretion.

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    Default Re: Rep. Gohmert Starts Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

    @1:30 Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at Yale School, says IT WOULD BE GAME CHANGING if Doctors were allowed to prescribe Hydroxychloroquine treatments.

    Here's hoping and praying Doctors, medical professionals and the public keep pushing for the decision to be overturned. The repercussions would be enormous. Not only for saving lives but for putting a major spanner in the wheels of forcing vaccinations.

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    Yale Professor of Epidemiology Endorses Anti-Covid Drug Hydroxychloroquine

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    Yale professor Dr. Harvey Risch, Youtube

    Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, fully endorses the use of the anti-viral drug, hydroxychloroquine, coupled with azithromycin and zinc, to treat patients with COVID-19 symptoms. He says it can save the lives of tens of thousands of patients. He cited a number of studies with hundreds of high-risk patients that resulted in zero deaths and reduced hospitalization risk. He says hydroxychloroquine has become disregarded because it has been politicized (Trump recommended it), it was not used properly in several studies when given to patients, and an FDA report claiming thousands cases of arrhythmias were reported from use of the drug. The report was criminally distorted, however, because the adverse effects were generated from tens of millions of patients’ use over long periods of time and did not honestly reflect the risk rate.
    As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.

    I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.

    On May 27, I published an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) entitled, “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis.” That article, published in the world’s leading epidemiology journal, analyzed five studies, demonstrating clear-cut and significant benefits to treated patients, plus other very large studies that showed the medication safety.

    Physicians who have been using these medications in the face of widespread skepticism have been truly heroic. They have done what the science shows is best for their patients, often at great personal risk. I myself know of two doctors who have saved the lives of hundreds of patients with these medications, but are now fighting state medical boards to save their licenses and reputations. The cases against them are completely without scientific merit.

    Since publication of my May 27 article, seven more studies have demonstrated similar benefit. In a lengthy follow-up letter, also published by AJE, I discuss these seven studies and renew my call for the immediate early use of hydroxychloroquine in high-risk patients. These seven studies include: an additional 400 high-risk patients treated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, with zero deaths; four studies totaling almost 500 high-risk patients treated in nursing homes and clinics across the U.S., with no deaths; a controlled trial of more than 700 high-risk patients in Brazil, with significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and two deaths among 334 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine; and another study of 398 matched patients in France, also with significantly reduced hospitalization risk. Since my letter was published, even more doctors have reported to me their completely successful use.

    Read full article here…

    Dr. Risch’s Study Published in May 2020:
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/article...waa093/5847586

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    Default Re: Rep. Gohmert Starts Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

    How would we know if the treatments are successful or not, when he's asymptomatic to begin with?

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    Default Re: Rep. Gohmert Starts Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    @1:30 Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at Yale School, says IT WOULD BE GAME CHANGING if Doctors were allowed to prescribe Hydroxychloroquine treatments.

    Here's hoping and praying Doctors, medical professionals and the public keep pushing for the decision to be overturned. The repercussions would be enormous. Not only for saving lives but for putting a major spanner in the wheels of forcing vaccinations....

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    Keep up the great work Gemma!

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    How would we know if the treatments are successful or not, when he's asymptomatic to begin with?
    Dunno but if it prevents the virus from waking up and helps our immune system get rid of it I'd much rather take this treatment than Gates vaccinations - (which I will refuse to take for as long as possible until being forcefully held and injected.  Hoping it doesn't come to that though).

    Quote For hydroxychloroquine to have a benefit, it needs to begin before the patients begin to suffer some of the severe immune reactions that patients can have with Covid,” said Dr. Marcus Zervos, division head of infection disease for Henry Ford Health System.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08...fective-954932
    That's why I'm hoping in due course that Gohmert has positive results to report and if so it encourages others to come forward.

    Taking the Hydroxychloroquine treatment for all those showing positive results from all the testing being done now would be far more effective than everyone wearing masks, imo.  I also think it would be very helpful in relieving some of the tension, fear and panic in the general population.  

    (Not to mention the potential aid it will give to auto-immune disease sufferers when it is prescribed for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.)

    Gohmert tweeted this on 1 Aug.  Nothing else yet.


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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    How would we know if the treatments are successful or not, when he's asymptomatic to begin with?
    Dunno but if it prevents the virus from waking up and helps our immune system get rid of it I'd much rather take this treatment than Gates vaccinations - (which I will refuse to take for as long as possible until being forcefully held and injected.  Hoping it doesn't come to that though).

    Quote For hydroxychloroquine to have a benefit, it needs to begin before the patients begin to suffer some of the severe immune reactions that patients can have with Covid,” said Dr. Marcus Zervos, division head of infection disease for Henry Ford Health System.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08...fective-954932
    That's why I'm hoping in due course that Gohmert has positive results to report and if so it encourages others to come forward.

    Taking the Hydroxychloroquine treatment for all those showing positive results from all the testing being done now would be far more effective than everyone wearing masks, imo.  I also think it would be very helpful in relieving some of the tension, fear and panic in the general population.  
    Sure Gemma, that's all fine and dandy I'm not here for the great Hydroxychloroquine debate.

    I don't see any harm in taking it with a positive test, just that I don't think him possibly remaining asymptomatic would necessarily tell us anything, as he may have remained so anyway.

    I'd like to see the results of large test groups of asymptomatics taking it, vs. test groups not taking it, that might tell us a little more.

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Sure Gemma, that's all fine and dandy I'm not here for the great Hydroxychloroquine debate.

    I don't see any harm in taking it with a positive test, just that I don't think him possibly remaining asymptomatic would necessarily tell us anything, as he may have remained so anyway.

    I'd like to see the results of large test groups of asymptomatics taking it, vs. test groups not taking it, that might tell us a little more.
    Exactly.  Which is why I'm hoping Gohmert's high profile case will help apply pressure for more testing to become a viable option rather than the treatment being heavily censored.

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    Default Re: Rep. Gohmert Starts Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

    One week later.  Gohmert says he flirted with a fever in the early days, had aches, soreness and a cough but says he feels good now apart from a bit of a raspy voice.

    He believes, of course, that it was early intervention with hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc treatment.

    Thinks within another week he may have the all clear and will then donate plasma.


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    A bit more media coverage.


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    An exceptionally well written article by Investigative Journalist Corey Lyn on the Hydroxychloroquine coverup. The article is lengthy but worth it and is loaded with links.

    A great article, with all the facts, to share amongst family and friends.

    COVID-19: THE COVERUP, THE CURE, AND KEY EVIDENCE

    https://www.coreysdigs.com/health-sc...-key-evidence/

    Quote This report will cover:

    • Videos of both press conferences by America’s Frontline Doctors

    • The targeted takedown timeline and important key facts and players

    • The facts about the FDA on HCQ and misreporting by almost every news source

    • Evidence and the battle between HCQ and Remdesivir

    • The fear is worse than the virus – statistics and data matter

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    I had to change search engines to find one that would provide a link to an article about Gohmert's experience. Duckduckgo linked to the following article.

    It's criminal that this treatment is not being offered to all citizens and especially our elderly citizens in nursing homes.

    Quote https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...oxychloroquine

    LOUIS GOHMERT IS COVID-19 FREE AND HE CREDITS HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE

    Rep. Louie Gohmert has recovered from the coronavirus and plans to donate plasma in the coming days, he told the Washington Examiner.

    “I’m feeling really well, really great, actually,” the Texas Republican said.

    Gohmert tested positive for the coronavirus on July 29 after taking a test at the White House ahead of a planned trip with President Trump.

    Gohmert drove to Texas to self-quarantine and suffered several days of mild symptoms, including fatigue, but is now free of the virus, he said.

    He tested negative for the virus and positive for the coronavirus antibodies this week. Gohmert said that he will donate plasma “as often as I am allowed” to help others recover from the virus.

    Gohmert, who turns 67 next week, told the Washington Examiner he believes his recovery was aided by the use of vitamin supplements and hydroxychloroquine, the drug touted by Trump and some medical doctors that is not endorsed by the Food and Drug Administration for use in treating the coronavirus.

    “I had a couple of bad days, but I started taking hydroxychloroquine, [Zithromax], and zinc, along with vitamins D3 and C," he said. "And I took a steroid nebulizer for a few days to help coat the alveoli in the lungs and protect them somewhat from the COVID virus attack.”

    He added, “I feel sorry for patients whose doctors are not even allowed to consider the hydroxychloroquine regimen. That’s a real shame.”

    Gohmert said he has been cleared by the Capitol’s attending physician to return to work and will vote in person if Congress reconvenes this summer to take up a now-stalled coronavirus aid package.

    Gohmert said he plans to wear a mask but said questions remain about whether face coverings are truly effective at preventing the spread of the coronavirus.

    Gohmert and other GOP lawmakers were criticized for not wearing masks in the Capitol, although Gohmert started wearing a mask about two weeks before he contracted the coronavirus.

    "Anywhere that’s the rule, I’ll wear a mask,” Gohmert said.

    Democrats criticized Gohmert after his diagnosis, calling his decision not to wear a mask “reckless,” even though he wore one in the weeks prior to his diagnosis.

    House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Raul Grijalva, 72, an Arizona Democrat who sat next to Gohmert at a July hearing, tested positive for the coronavirus on Aug. 1 and indirectly blamed Gohmert.

    “While I cannot blame anyone directly for this, this week has shown that there are some members of Congress who fail to take this crisis seriously,” Grijalva said at the time. “Numerous Republican members routinely strut around the Capitol without a mask to selfishly make a political statement at the expense of their colleagues, staff, and their families. I’m pleased that Speaker Pelosi has mandated the use of masks at the Capitol to keep members and staff safe from those looking to score quick political points. Stopping the spread of a deadly virus should not be a partisan issue.”

    Gohmert pointed out he wore a mask at the hearing with Grijalva unless he was asking witnesses a question, and the two sat at a distance from each other.

    “I think he’s looking for someone to blame,” Gohmert said. “So, he’s gotten a little ridiculous with that claim.”

    Accountable US, a left-leaning corruption watchdog group, filed a complaint with the outside congressional ethics office, demanding an investigation into Gohmert and accusing him of putting the Capitol at risk for not wearing a mask ahead of his coronavirus diagnosis.

    “I was wearing a mask more in those last couple of weeks than I had in the months before, and mainly because it was the rule, you had to wear a mask,” Gohmert said.

    Gohmert dismissed the accusation and denied a report from an ex-staffer that he shamed those in the office who wore masks.

    “I’ve never berated any of my staff for wearing a mask,” Gohmert said. “The one thing I’ve said is do what makes you feel the most comfortable, and if you’re comfortable wearing a mask, if you think that’s a good idea, wear a mask.”

    Gohmert said from now on he’ll wear a mask but believes he cannot infect anyone.

    “I’ll wear a mask, even though I’m immune and I can’t give it to anybody,” he said.

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    Unf#@king believable. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think this would become our reality in Australia

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    And it gets crazier...

    In Queensland it's a crime to take Hydroxychloroquine as a therapy for Covid. You may receive a fine of $1334 for doing so, or 6 months in jail.

    A medicine that IS provably safe - used for decades for several ailments - has been made illegal for treatment of covid because it 'allegedly' doesn't work on it. This is next level disturbing. So if someone used say, penicillin for arthritis, would they also be fined or thrown in jail?

    Attachment 44084

    From Queensland Government website:
    https://www.qld.gov.au/health/condit...uine-direction

    This ludicrous assault on Hydroxychloroquine all but proves it's effectiveness at fighting covid. I've thought so for months anyway. It's a huge threat to the plan to roll out mandatory vaccines. Has to be. What else could possibly make sense?

    I long for the day when these new world order parasites get kicked out of office. And more than that, thrown behind bars for life. They'd be lucky to get that. Lynch mobs are the alternative.

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    Quote It's criminal that this treatment is not being offered to all citizens and especially our elderly citizens in nursing homes.
    I agree.

    Posting a link here to my earlier post that links to the strongest documented case for this treatment I have seen, and the strongest condemnation of Fauci's positions in the process.

    ( I sent this article to family members and intend to contact my Doctor and find out where he stands in case I need this treatment in future.)

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1372517
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/do...ating-covid-19


    Quote Doctors Pen Open Letter To Fauci Regarding The Use Of Hydroxychloroquine for Treating COVID-19

    Authored by George C. Fareed, MD Brawley, California Michael M. Jacobs, MD, MPH Pensacola, Florida Donald C. Pompan, MD Salinas, California,

    August 12, 2020

    Anthony Fauci, MD
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    Dear Dr. Fauci:

    You were placed into the most high-profile role regarding America’s response to the Coronavirus pandemic. Americans have relied on your medical expertise concerning the wearing of masks, resuming employment, returning to school, and of course medical treatment.

    You are largely unchallenged in terms of your medical opinions. You are the de facto “COVID-19 Czar”. This is unusual in the medical profession in which doctors’ opinions are challenged by other physicians in the form of exchanges between doctors at hospitals, medical conferences, as well as debate in medical journals. You render your opinions unchallenged, without formal public opposition from physicians who passionately disagree with you. It is incontestable that the public is best served when opinions and policy are based on the prevailing evidence and science, and able to withstand the scrutiny of medical professionals.

    As experience accrued in treating COVID-19 infections, physicians worldwide discovered that high-risk patients can be treated successfully as an outpatient, within the first 5 to 7 days of the onset of symptoms, with a “cocktail” consisting of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin (or doxycycline). Multiple scholarly contributions to the literature detail the efficacy of the hydroxychloroquine-based combination treatment.

    Dr. Harvey Risch, the renowned Yale epidemiologist, published an article in May 2020 in the American Journal of Epidemiology titled “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to Pandemic Crisis”. He further published an article in Newsweek in July 2020 for the general public expressing the same conclusions and opinions. Dr. Risch is an expert at evaluating research data and study designs, publishing over 300 articles. Dr Risch’s assessment is that there is unequivocal evidence for the early and safe use of the “HCQ cocktail.” If there are Q-T interval concerns, doxycycline can be substituted for azithromycin as it has activity against RNA viruses without any cardiac effects.

    Yet, you continue to reject the use of hydroxychloroquine, except in a hospital setting in the form of clinical trials, repeatedly emphasizing the lack of evidence supporting its use.
    Hydroxychloroquine, despite 65 years of use for malaria, and over 40 years for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, with a well-established safety profile, has been deemed by you and the FDA as unsafe for use in the treatment of symptomatic COVID-19 infections. Your opinions have influenced the thinking of physicians and their patients, medical boards, state and federal agencies, pharmacists, hospitals, and just about everyone involved in medical decision making.

    Indeed, your opinions impacted the health of Americans, and many aspects of our day-to-day lives including employment and school. Those of us who prescribe hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin/doxycycline believe fervently that early outpatient use would save tens of thousands of lives and enable our country to dramatically alter the response to COVID-19. We advocate for an approach that will reduce fear and allow Americans to get their lives back.

    We hope that our questions compel you to reconsider your current approach to COVID-19 infection.

    Questions regarding early outpatient treatment

    1. There are generally two stages of COVID-19 symptomatic infection; initial flu like symptoms with progression to cytokine storm and respiratory failure, correct?

    2. When people are admitted to a hospital, they generally are in worse condition, correct?

    3. There are no specific medications currently recommended for early outpatient treatment of symptomatic COVID-19 infection, correct?

    4. Remdesivir and Dexamethasone are used for hospitalized patients, correct?

    5. There is currently no recommended pharmacologic early outpatient treatment for individuals in the flu stage of the illness, correct?

    6. It is true that COVID-19 is much more lethal than the flu for high-risk individuals such as older patients and those with significant comorbidities, correct?

    7. Individuals with signs of early COVID-19 infection typically have a runny nose, fever, cough, shortness of breath, loss of smell, etc., and physicians send them home to rest, eat chicken soup etc., but offer no specific, targeted medications, correct?

    8. These high-risk individuals are at high risk of death, on the order of 15% or higher, correct?

    9. So just so we are clear—the current standard of care now is to send clinically stable symptomatic patients home, “with a wait and see” approach?

    10. Are you aware that physicians are successfully using Hydroxychloroquine combined with Zinc and Azithromycin as a “cocktail” for early outpatient treatment of symptomatic, high-risk, individuals?

    11. Have you heard of the “Zelenko Protocol,” for treating high-risk patients with COVID 19 as an outpatient?

    12. Have you read Dr. Risch’s article in the American Journal of Epidemiology of the early outpatient treatment of COVID-19?

    13. Are you aware that physicians using the medication combination or “cocktail” recommend use within the first 5 to 7 days of the onset of symptoms, before the illness impacts the lungs, or cytokine storm evolves?

    14. Again, to be clear, your recommendation is no pharmacologic treatment as an outpatient for the flu—like symptoms in patients that are stable, regardless of their risk factors, correct?

    15. Would you advocate for early pharmacologic outpatient treatment of symptomatic COVID-19 patients if you were confident that it was beneficial?

    16. Are you aware that there are hundreds of physicians in the United States and thousands across the globe who have had dramatic success treating high-risk individuals as outpatients with this “cocktail?”

    17. Are you aware that there are at least 10 studies demonstrating the efficacy of early outpatient treatment with the Hydroxychloroquine cocktail for high-risk patients — so this is beyond anecdotal, correct?

    18. If one of your loved ones had diabetes or asthma, or any potentially complicating comorbidity, and tested positive for COVID-19, would you recommend “wait and see how they do” and go to the hospital if symptoms progress?

    19. Even with multiple studies documenting remarkable outpatient efficacy and safety of the Hydroxychloroquine “cocktail,” you believe the risks of the medication combination outweigh the benefits?

    20. Is it true that with regard to Hydroxychloroquine and treatment of COVID-19 infection, you have said repeatedly that “The Overwhelming Evidence of Properly Conducted Randomized Clinical Trials Indicate No Therapeutic Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)?”

    21. But NONE of the randomized controlled trials to which you refer were done in the first 5 to 7 days after the onset of symptoms- correct?

    22. All of the randomized controlled trials to which you refer were done on hospitalized patients, correct?

    23. Hospitalized patients are typically sicker that outpatients, correct?

    24. None of the randomized controlled trials to which you refer used the full cocktail consisting of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin, correct?

    25. While the University of Minnesota study is referred to as disproving the cocktail, the meds were not given within the first 5 to 7 days of illness, the test group was not high risk (death rates were 3%), and no zinc was given, correct?

    26. Again, for clarity, the trials upon which you base your opinion regarding the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine, assessed neither the full cocktail (to include Zinc + Azithromycin or doxycycline) nor administered treatment within the first 5 to 7 days of symptoms, nor focused on the high-risk group, correct?

    27. Therefore, you have no basis to conclude that the Hydroxychloroquine cocktail when used early in the outpatient setting, within the first 5 to 7 days of symptoms, in high risk patients, is not effective, correct?

    28. It is thus false and misleading to say that the effective and safe use of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin has been “debunked,” correct? How could it be “debunked” if there is not a single study that contradicts its use?

    29. Should it not be an absolute priority for the NIH and CDC to look at ways to treat Americans with symptomatic COVID-19 infections early to prevent disease progression?

    30. The SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 virus is an RNA virus. It is well-established that Zinc interferes with RNA viral replication, correct?

    31. Moreover, is it not true that hydroxychloroquine facilitates the entry of zinc into the cell, is a “ionophore,” correct?

    32. Isn’t also it true that Azithromycin has established anti-viral properties?

    33. Are you aware of the paper from Baylor by Dr. McCullough et. al. describing established mechanisms by which the components of the “HCQ cocktail” exert anti-viral effects?

    34. So- the use of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin (or doxycycline) and zinc, the “HCQ cocktail,” is based on science, correct?

    Questions regarding safety

    1. The FDA writes the following: “in light of on-going serious cardiac adverse events and their serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of CQ and HCQ no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for authorized use.” So not only is the FDA saying that Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work, they are also saying that it is a very dangerous drug. Yet, is it not true the drug has been used as an anti-malarial drug for over 65 years?

    2. Isn’t true that the drug has been used for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis for many years at similar doses?

    3. Do you know of even a single study prior to COVID -19 that has provided definitive evidence against the use of the drug based on safety concerns?

    4. Are you aware that chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine has many approved uses for hydroxychloroquine including steroid-dependent asthma (1988 study), Advanced pulmonary sarcoidosis (1988 study), sensitizing breast cancer cells for chemotherapy (2012 study), the attenuation of renal ischemia (2018 study), lupus nephritis (2006 study), epithelial ovarian cancer (2020 study, just to name a few)? Where are the cardiotoxicity concerns ever mentioned?

    5. Risch estimates the risk of cardiac death from hydroxychloroquine to be 9/100,000 using the data provided by the FDA. That does not seem to be a high risk, considering the risk of death in an older patient with co-morbidities can be 15% or more. Do you consider 9/100,000 to be a high risk when weighed against the risk of death in older patient with co-morbidities?

    6. To put this in perspective, the drug is used for 65 years, without warnings (aside for the need for periodic retinal checks), but the FDA somehow feels the need to send out an alert on June 15, 2020 that the drug is dangerous. Does that make any logical sense to you Dr. Fauci based on “science”?

    7. Moreover, consider that the protocols for usage in early treatment are for 5 to 7 days at relatively low doses of hydroxychloroquine similar to what is being given in other diseases (RA, SLE) over many years- does it make any sense to you logically that a 5 to 7 day dose of hydroxychloroquine when not given in high doses could be considered dangerous?

    8. You are also aware that articles published in the New England Journal of Medicine and Lancet, one out of Harvard University, regarding the dangers of hydroxychloroquine had to be retracted based on the fact that the data was fabricated. Are you aware of that?

    9. If there was such good data on the risks of hydroxychloroquine, one would not have to use fake data, correct?

    10. After all, 65 years is a long-time to determine whether or not a drug is safe, do you agree?

    11. In the clinical trials that you have referenced (e.g., the Minnesota and the Brazil studies), there was not a single death attributed directly to hydroxychloroquine, correct?

    12. According to Dr. Risch, there is no evidence based on the data to conclude that hydroxychloroquine is a dangerous drug. Are you aware of any published report that rebuts Dr. Risch’s findings?

    13. Are you aware that the FDA ruling along with your statements have led to Governors in a number of states to restrict the use of hydroxychloroquine?

    14. Are you aware that pharmacies are not filling prescriptions for this medication based on your and the FDA’s restrictions?

    15. Are you aware that doctors are being punished by state medical boards for prescribing the medication based on your comments as well as the FDA’s?

    16. Are you aware that people who want the medication sometimes need to call physicians in other states pleading for it?

    17. And yet you opined in March that while people were dying at the rate of 10,000 patient a week, hydroxychloroquine could only be used in an inpatient setting as part of a clinical trial- correct?

    18. So, people who want to be treated in that critical 5-to-7-day period and avoid being hospitalized are basically out of luck in your view, correct?

    19. So, again, for clarity, without a shred of evidence that the Hydroxychloroquine/HCQ cocktail is dangerous in the doses currently recommend for early outpatient treatment, you and the FDA have made it very difficult if not impossible in some cases to get this treatment, correct?

    Questions regarding methodology

    The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It

    1. In regards to the use of hydroxychloroquine, you have repeatedly made the same statement: “The Overwhelming Evidence from Properly Conducted Randomized Clinical Trials Indicate no Therapeutic Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine.” Is that correct?

    2. In Dr. Risch’s article regarding the early use of hydroxychloroquine, he disputes your opinion. He scientifically evaluated the data from the studies to support his opinions. Have you published any articles to support your opinions?

    3. You repeatedly state that randomized clinical trials are needed to make conclusions regarding treatments, correct?

    4. The FDA has approved many medications (especially in the area of cancer treatment) without randomized clinical trials, correct?

    5. Are you aware that Dr. Thomas Frieden, the previous head of the CDC wrote an article in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2017 called “Evidence for Health Decision Making – Beyond Randomized Clinical Trials (RCT)”? Have you read that article?

    6. In it Dr. Frieden states that “many data sources can provide valid evidence for clinical and public health action, including “analysis of aggregate clinical or epidemiological data”-do you disagree with that?

    7. Frieden discusses “practiced-based evidence” as being essential in many discoveries, such SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome)-do you disagree with that?

    8. Frieden writes the following: “Current evidence-grading systems are biased toward randomized clinical trials, which may lead to inadequate consideration of non-RCT data.” Dr. Fauci, have you considered all the non-RCT data in coming to your opinions?

    9. Risch, who is a leading world authority in the analysis of aggregate clinical data, has done a rigorous analysis that he published regarding the early treatment of COVID 19 with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin. He cites 5 or 6 studies, and in an updated article there are 5 or 6 more-a total of 10 to 12 clinical studies with formally collected data specifically regarding the early treatment of COVID. Have you analyzed the aggregate data regarding early treatment of high-risk patients with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin?

    10. Is there any document that you can produce for the American people of your analysis of the aggregate data that would rebut Dr. Risch’s analysis?

    11. Yet, despite what Dr. Risch believes is overwhelming evidence in support of the early use of hydroxychloroquine, you dismiss the treatment insisting on randomized controlled trials even in the midst of a pandemic?


    12. Would you want a loved one with high-risk comorbidities placed in the control group of a randomized clinical trial when a number of studies demonstrate safety and dramatic efficacy of the early use of the Hydroxychloroquine “cocktail?”

    13. Are you aware that the FDA approved a number of cancer chemotherapy drugs without randomized control trials based solely on epidemiological evidence. The trials came later as confirmation. Are you aware of that?

    14. You are well aware that there were no randomized clinical trials in the case of penicillin that saved thousands of lives in World War II? Was not this in the best interest of our soldiers?

    15. You would agree that many lives were saved with the use of cancer drugs and penicillin that were used before any randomized clinical trials–correct?

    16. You have referred to evidence for hydroxychloroquine as “anecdotal”- which is defined as “evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony”- correct?

    17. But there are many studies supporting the use of hydroxychloroquine in which evidence was collected formally and not on personal testimony, has there not been?

    18. So it would be false to conclude that the evidence supporting the early use of hydroxychloroquine is anecdotal, correct?

    Comparison between the US and other countries regarding case fatality rate

    (It would be very helpful to have the graphs comparing our case fatality rates to other countries)

    1. Are you aware that countries like Senegal and Nigeria that use Hydroxychloroquine have much lower case-fatality rates than the United States?

    2. Have you pondered the relationship between the use of Hydroxychloroquine by a given country and their case mortality rate and why there is a strong correlation between the use of HCQ and the reduction of the case mortality rate.?

    3. Have you considered consulting with a country such as India that has had great success treating COVID-19 prophylactically?

    4. Why shouldn’t our first responders and front-line workers who are at high risk at least have an option of HCQ/zinc prophylaxis?

    5. We should all agree that countries with far inferior healthcare delivery systems should not have lower case fatality rates. Reducing our case fatality rate from near 5% to 2.5%, in line with many countries who use HCQ early would have cut our total number of deaths in half, correct?

    6. Why not consult with countries who have lower case-fatality rates, even without expensive medicines such as remdesivir and far less advanced intensive care capabilities?


    Giving Americans the option to use HCQ for COVID-19

    1. Harvey Risch, the pre-eminent Epidemiologist from Yale, wrote a Newsweek Article titled: “The key to defeating COVID-19 already exists. We need to start using it.” Did you read the article?

    2. Are you aware that the cost of the Hydroxychloroquine “cocktail” including the Z-pack and zinc is about $50?

    3. You are aware the cost of Remdesivir is about $3,200?

    4. So that’s about 60 doses of HCQ “cocktail,” correct?

    5. In fact, President Trump had the foresight to amass 60 million doses of hydroxychloroquine, and yet you continue to stand in the way of doctors who want to use that medication for their infected patients, correct?

    6. Those are a lot of doses of medication that potentially could be used to treat our poor, especially our minority populations and people of color that have a difficult time accessing healthcare. They die more frequently of COVID-19, do they not?

    7. But because of your obstinance blocking the use of HCQ, this stockpile has remained largely unused, correct?

    8. Would you acknowledge that your strategy of telling Americans to restrict their behavior, wear masks, and distance, and put their lives on hold indefinitely until there is a vaccine is not working?

    9. So, 160,000 deaths later, an economy in shambles, kids out of school, suicides and drug overdoses at a record high, people neglecting and dying from other medical conditions, and America reacting to every outbreak with another lockdown- is it not time to re-think your strategy that is fully dependent on an effective vaccine?

    10. Why not consider a strategy that protects the most vulnerable and allows Americans back to living their lives and not wait for a vaccine panacea that may never come?

    11. Why not consider the approach that thousands of doctors around the world are using, supported by a number of studies in the literature, with early outpatient treatment of high-risk patients for typically one week with HCQ + Zinc + Azithromycin?

    12. You don’t see a problem with the fact that the government, due to your position, in some cases interferes with the choice of using HCQ. Should not that be a choice between the doctor and the patient?

    13. While some doctors may not want to use the drug, should not doctors who believe that it is indicated be able to offer it to their patients?

    14. Are you aware that doctors who are publicly advocating for such a strategy with the early use of the HCQ cocktail are being silenced with removal of content on the internet and even censorship in the medical community?

    15. You are aware of the 20 or so physicians who came to the Supreme Court steps advocating for the early use of the Hydroxychloroquine cocktail.In fact, you said these were “a bunch of people spouting out something that isn’t true.”Dr. Fauci, these are not just “people”- these are doctors who actually treat patients, unlike you, correct?

    16. Do you know that the video they made went viral with 17 million views in just a few hours, and was then removed from the internet?

    17. Are you aware that their website, American Frontline Doctors, was taken down the next day?

    18. Did you see the way that Nigerian immigrant physician, Dr. Stella Immanuel, was mocked in the media for her religious views and called a “witch doctor”?

    19. Are you aware that Dr. Simone Gold, the leader of the group, was fired from her job as an Emergency Room physician the following day?

    20. Are you aware that physicians advocating for this treatment that has by now probably saved millions of lives around the globe are harassed by local health departments, state agencies and medical boards, and even at their own hospitals? Are you aware of that?

    21. Don’t you think doctors should have the right to speak out on behalf of their patients without the threat of retribution?

    22. Are you aware that videos and other educational information are removed off the internet and labeled, in the words of Mark Zuckerberg, as “misinformation.”?

    23. Is it not misinformation to characterize Hydroxychloroquine, in the doses used for early outpatient treatment of COVID-19 infections, as a dangerous drug?

    24. Is it not misleading for you to repeatedly state to the American public that randomized clinical trials are the sole source of information to confirm the efficacy of a treatment?

    25. Was it not misinformation when on CNN you cited the Lancet study based on false data from Surgisphere as evidence of the lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine?

    26. Is it not misinformation as is repeated in the MSM as a result of your comments that a randomized clinical trial is required by the FDA for a drug approval?

    27. Don’t you realize how much damage this falsehood perpetuates?

    28. How is it not misinformation for you and the FDA to keep telling the American public that hydroxychloroquine is dangerous when you know that there is nothing more than anecdotal evidence of that?

    29. Fauci, if you or a loved one were infected with COVID-19, and had flu-like symptoms, and you knew as you do now that there is a safe and effective cocktail that you could take to prevent worsening and the possibility of hospitalization, can you honestly tell us that you would refuse the medication?

    30. Why not give our healthcare workers and first responders, who even with the necessary PPE are contracting the virus at a 3 to 4 times greater rate than the general public, the right to choose along with their doctor if they want use the medicine prophylactically?

    31. Why is the government inserting itself in a way that is unprecedented in regard to a historically safe medication and not allowing patients the right to choose along with their doctor?

    32. Why not give the American people the right to decide along with their physician whether or not they want outpatient treatment in the first 5 to 7 days of the disease with a cocktail that is safe and costs around $50?

    Final questions

    1. Fauci, please explain how a randomized clinical trial, to which you repeatedly make reference, for testing the HCQ cocktail (hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc) administered within 5-7 days of the onset of symptoms is even possible now given the declining case numbers in so many states?

    2. For example, if the NIH were now to direct a study to begin September 15, where would such a study be done?

    3. Please explain how a randomized study on the early treatment (within the first 5 to 7 days of symptoms) of high-risk, symptomatic COVID-19 infections could be done during the influenza season and be valid?

    4. Please explain how multiple observational studies arrive at the same outcomes using the same formulation of hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin + Zinc given in the same time frame for the same study population (high risk patients) is not evidence that the cocktail works?

    5. In fact, how is it not significant evidence, during a pandemic, for hundreds of non-academic private practice physicians to achieve the same outcomes with the early use of the HCQ cocktail?

    6. What is your recommendation for the medical management of a 75-year-old diabetic with fever, cough, and loss of smell, but not yet hypoxic, who Emergency Room providers do not feel warrants admission? We know that hundreds of U.S. physicians (and thousands more around the world) would manage this case with the HCQ cocktail with predictable success.

    7. If you were in charge in 1940, would you have advised the mass production of penicillin based primarily on lab evidence and one case series on 5 patients in England or would you have stated that a randomized clinical trial was needed?

    8. Why would any physician put their medical license, professional reputation, and job on the line to recommend the HCQ cocktail (that does not make them any money) unless they knew the treatment could significantly help their patient?

    9. Why would a physician take the medication themselves and prescribe it to family members (for treatment or prophylaxis) unless they felt strongly that the medication was beneficial?

    10. How is it informed and ethical medical practice to allow a COVID-19 patient to deteriorate in the early stages of the infection when there is inexpensive, safe, and dramatically effective treatment with the HCQ cocktail, which the science indicates interferes with coronavirus replication?

    11. How is your approach to “wait and see” in the early stages of COVID-19 infection, especially in high-risk patients, following the science?

    While previous questions are related to hydroxychloroquine-based treatment, we have two questions addressing masks.

    1. As you recall, you stated on March 8th, just a few weeks before the devastation in the Northeast, that masks weren’t needed. You later said that you made this statement to prevent a hoarding of masks that would disrupt availability to healthcare workers. Why did you not make a recommendation for people to wear any face covering to protect themselves, as we are doing now?

    2. Rather, you issued no such warning and people were riding in subways and visiting their relatives in nursing homes without any face covering. Currently, your position is that face coverings are essential. Please explain whether or not you made a mistake in early March, and how would you go about it differently now.

    Conclusion

    Since the start of the pandemic, physicians have used hydroxychloroquine to treat symptomatic COVID-19 infections, as well as for prophylaxis. Initial results were mixed as indications and doses were explored to maximize outcomes and minimize risks. What emerged was that hydroxychloroquine appeared to work best when coupled with azithromycin. In fact, it was the President of the United States who recommended to you publicly at the beginning of the pandemic, in early March, that you should consider early treatment with hydroxychloroquine and a “Z-Pack.” Additional studies showed that patients did not seem to benefit when COVID-19 infections were treated with hydroxychloroquine late in the course of the illness, typically in a hospital setting, but treatment was consistently effective, even in high-risk patients, when hydroxychloroquine was given in a “cocktail” with azithromycin and, critically, zinc in the first 5 to 7 days after the onset of symptoms. The outcomes are, in fact, dramatic.

    As clearly presented in the McCullough article from Baylor, and described by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, the efficacy of the HCQ cocktail is based on the pharmacology of the hydroxychloroquine ionophore acting as the “gun” and zinc as the “bullet,” while azithromycin potentiates the anti-viral effect. Undeniably, the hydroxychloroquine combination treatment is supported by science. Yet, you continue to ignore the “science” behind the disease. Viral replication occurs rapidly in the first 5 to 7 days of symptoms and can be treated at that point with the HCQ cocktail. Rather, your actions have denied patients treatment in that early stage. Without such treatment, some patients, especially those at high risk with co-morbidities, deteriorate and require hospitalization for evolving cytokine storm resulting in pneumonia, respiratory failure, and intubation with 50% mortality. Dismissal of the science results in bad medicine, and the outcome is over 160,000 dead Americans. Countries that have followed the science and treated the disease in the early stages have far better results, a fact that has been concealed from the American Public.


    Despite mounting evidence and impassioned pleas from hundreds of frontline physicians, your position was and continues to be that randomized controlled trials (RCTs) have not shown there to be benefit. However, not a single randomized control trial has tested what is being recommended: use of the full cocktail (especially zinc), in high-risk patients, initiated within the first 5 to 7 days of the onset of symptoms. Using hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin late in the disease process, with or without zinc, does not produce the same, unequivocally positive results.

    Dr. Thomas Frieden, in a 2017 New England Journal of Medicine article regarding randomized clinical trials, emphasized there are situations in which it is entirely appropriate to use other forms of evidence to scientifically validate a treatment. Such is the case during a pandemic that moves like a brushfire jumping to different parts of the country. Insisting on randomized clinical trials in the midst of a pandemic is simply foolish. Dr. Harvey Risch, a world-renowned Yale epidemiologist, analyzed all the data regarding the use of the hydroxychloroquine/HCQ cocktail and concluded that the evidence of its efficacy when used early in COVID-19 infection is unequivocal.

    Curiously, despite a 65+ years safety record, the FDA suddenly deemed hydroxychloroquine a dangerous drug, especially with regard to cardiotoxicity. Dr. Risch analyzed data provided by the FDA and concluded that the risk of a significant cardiac event from hydroxychloroquine is extremely low, especially when compared to the mortality rate of COVID-19 patients with high-risk co-morbidities. How do you reconcile that for forty years rheumatoid arthritis and lupus patients have been treated over long periods, often for years, with hydroxychloroquine and now there are suddenly concerns about a 5 to 7-day course of hydroxychloroquine at similar or slightly increased doses? The FDA statement regarding hydroxychloroquine and cardiac risk is patently false and alarmingly misleading to physicians, pharmacists, patients, and other health professionals. The benefits of the early use of hydroxychloroquine to prevent hospitalization in high-risk patients with COVID-19 infection far outweigh the risks. Physicians are not able to obtain the medication for their patients, and in some cases are restricted by their state from prescribing hydroxychloroquine. The government’s obstruction of the early treatment of symptomatic high-risk COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine, a medication used extensively and safely for so long, is unprecedented.

    It is essential that you tell the truth to the American public regarding the safety and efficacy of the hydroxychloroquine/HCQ cocktail. The government must protect and facilitate the sacred and revered physician-patient relationship by permitting physicians to treat their patients. Governmental obfuscation and obstruction are as lethal as cytokine storm.

    Americans must not continue to die unnecessarily. Adults must resume employment and our youth return to school. Locking down America while awaiting an imperfect vaccine has done far more damage to Americans than the coronavirus. We are confident that thousands of lives would be saved with early treatment of high-risk individuals with a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin. Americans must not live in fear. As Dr. Harvey Risch’s Newsweek article declares, “The key to defeating COVID-19 already exists. We need to start using it.”

    Very Respectfully,

    George C. Fareed, MD, Brawley, California

    Michael M. Jacobs, MD, MPH, Pensacola, Florida

    Donald C. Pompan, MD, Salinas, California



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    Default Re: Rep. Gohmert Starts Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

    9 minutes confirming premeditated murder. There is no way those conducting the "dangerous" Hydroxychloroquine studies using lethal doses - (which is the research now used to threaten doctors with imprisonment if they prescribe Hydroxychloroquine) - were not aware of the correct safe dosage in combination with zinc and antibiotic.

    Murdering people - to falsify research - to create prohibition of a proven cure - to keep control of the Covid vaccine narrative.

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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    9 minutes confirming premeditated murder. There is no way those conducting the "dangerous" Hydroxychloroquine studies using lethal doses - (which is the research now used to threaten doctors with imprisonment if they prescribe Hydroxychloroquine) - were not aware of the correct safe dosage in combination with zinc and antibiotic.

    Murdering people - to falsify research - to create prohibition of a proven cure - to keep control of the Covid vaccine narrative.

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    An honourable minister speaking out for Aussies rights to obtain and use HCQ

    Yes Gemma. You are absolutely right.

    Here is more detail on what Craig is referring to

    https://www.palmerfoundation.com.au/...dered-opinion/

    It is a very long piece so I won't copy and paste here.

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    For the record.

    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    So very angry over their refusal to offer Hydroxychloroquine treatment plan!

    Quote https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...ne-push_280820

    DCMO slaps down MP's hydroxychloroquine push
    By 9News Staff
    4:05pm Aug 28, 2020

    Australia's Deputy Chief Medical Officer Dr Nick Coatsworth has rejected MP Craig Kelly's push for hydroxychloroquine, saying the drug simply does not benefit COVID-19 patients.

    "I think Australians are very clear on which Kelly should be listened to and that's (Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr) Paul Kelly," Dr Coatsworth said.

    "And Paul Kelly, like myself, like all clinicians around Australia, understand that regrettably hydroxychloroquine is not effective for COVID-19."

    Dr Coatsworth pointed out that billionaire Clive Palmer had donated tonnes of hydroxychloroquine early in the pandemic crisis, when it was still thought it might help patients.

    "There are no circumstances where we would sit on that much hydroxychloroquine if it were useful for COVID-19, we would be giving it to patients," he said.

    The World Health Organisation has pulled hydroxychloroquine from one of its coronavirus trials, which Dr Coatsworth said only happened in the case of incontrovertible evidence.

    Mr Kelly said in Parliament that "groupthink" was preventing the use of hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID-19 patients.

    But Dr Coatsworth was unequivocal.

    "Regrettably, hydroxychloroquine is not the answer," he said.

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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    So very angry over their refusal to offer Hydroxychloroquine treatment plan!
    All is not lost yet Gemma. Keep your chin up Fingers crossed that they are using the protocol required for it to be effective.



    Clinical trial looks to protect high-risk healthcare workers against COVID-19
    Tuesday 11 August 2020

    Healthcare workers are part of the first line of defence in today’s fight against COVID-19. But as this global virus continues to spread, the demands on our medical sector are becoming greater, and riskier, than ever.

    St Vincent’s Hospital Melbourne (SVHM) is playing a pivotal role in an Australian-led clinical trial to determine whether hydroxychloroquine can protect healthcare workers from contracting COVID-19 while caring for COVID-positive patients.

    The COVID SHIELD Clinical Trial is a collaborative project led by the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, in partnership with human data science company IQVIA and various healthcare providers across the country, including SVHM, which is a screening site for the trial and has been heavily involved in the design of the study.

    Associate Professor Mandana Nikpour, one of COVID SHIELD’s lead principal researchers and a consultant rheumatologist at SVHM, says during the pandemic hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers have been infected worldwide, demonstrating the value, need and urgency of this clinical trial that focuses on prevention rather than cure.

    When the trial started in June, more than 10 per cent of COVID-19 cases in Australia were linked to healthcare workers. In the second wave of infections in Victoria, more than 1000 healthcare workers have been infected.

    “For every healthcare worker who is infected, quite a few then have to be tested, or go into self-isolation for two weeks. This has had an impact on the physical and mental health of healthcare workers, as well as an impact on the workforce we have available to undertake frontline duties,” A/Prof Nikpour says.

    What we know so far

    The randomised, gold-standard clinical trial will see half the participants given hydroxychloroquine tablets, while the other half will receive placebo tablets over the course of four months.

    Hydroxychloroquine is commonly used in the treatment of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Having used the drug to successfully treat patients with both these conditions, A/Prof Nikpour says initial findings indicate hydroxychloroquine could potentially help us get on the front foot in the fight against COVID-19, where healthcare workers are concerned.

    “In the test-tube, hydroxychloroquine reduces the replication of SARS Coronavirus 2, which is the COVID-19 virus, by about 90 percent,” she explains.

    “When you are very sick or ventilated in hospital you have a lot of inflammatory molecules causing collateral damage to organs, and it is not possible at that point to intervene with a drug like hydroxychloroquine. However, hydroxychloroquine could potentially reduce the risk of COVID-19, if taken prior to exposure to the virus, that is, as ‘pre-exposure prophylaxis’ or ‘PrEP’.”

    During the trial, participants will regularly report, via an electronic data-capture platform, any COVID-19 symptoms they may be experiencing and whether they have been tested for the virus or been diagnosed with it.

    “They also get smartphone alerts daily to remind them to take their medication and monitor their progress, including any side effects. The eDiary also checks whether they have had contact with anyone who has tested COVID-positive,” A/Prof Nikpour
    The rest of the article can be found here

    The Australian people have already demonstrated their displeasure regarding the Vic Premier signing the Belt and Road Initiative with the CCP and now, the Prime Minister is under pressure to tear up that agreement so anything is possible at this stage.

    Scott Morrison vows to cancel state-foreign agreements if viewed to be against national interest
    Thanks Constance Here's hoping they do it right and it encourages them to do a trial on Hydroxychloroquine +zinc+azithromycin for patients in first 5 days.

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    Cross posting.

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    Ohio Governor Calls Out Fauci Lies, Lifts HCQ Ban
    By United Medical Freedom Super PAC
    August 24, 2020
    https://medicalfreedompac.com/ohio-hcq-ban/



    ( I missed this when it first came out--please pardon if it was posted already-did a search and couldn't find it.)

    "Among our most fundamental and sacred rights is the right to medical freedom. But in the curious case of hydroxychloroquine, it seems that the government, media, and pharmaceutical industry have been fighting tooth and nail to make the drug unavailable – despite overwhelming evidence that it can prevent and treat COVID-19.

    In Ohio, however, a ban on hydroxychloroquine is being reversed. Thanks to the strong leadership of governor Mike DeWine, the State of Ohio Board of Pharmacy has reversed a rule that would prohibit the sale of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment or prevention of coronavirus.

    It could mean the difference between life and death for high-risk patients.

    The Hydroxychloroquine Controversy
    Starting in August, pharmacies, clinics and other medical institutions were to be prohibited from dispensing or selling the drugs to treat COVID-19, according to regulations issued by the State of Ohio Board of Pharmacy. They could still be used in clinical trials, said Cameron McNamee, director of policy and communications for the board.

    Proponents of the ban (which has been instituted in other states across the nation) insist that HCQ is not an effective treatment for COVID-19, citing potential side effects as the reason for the ban. Under the regulation, pharmacists in Ohio found to be selling or dispensing the drug to treat COVID-19 could have faced disciplinary action ranging anywhere from a warning or fine to a temporary suspension of their license.

    But Governor DeWine has a unique perspective on the issue. “I agree with the statement from Dr. Steven Hahn, Commissioner of the [Food and Drug Administration], that the decision about prescribing hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 should be between a doctor and a patient,” the governor said in a statement via Twitter. “The Ohio Board of Pharmacy and @ohiomedboard should revisit the issue, listen to the best medical science, and open the process up for comment and testimony from experts.”

    And he’s exactly right: medical interventions are a personal decision in which the government has absolutely no business meddling. This is especially encouraging given the extremely political (and at times inexplicable) war that has been fought around the malaria drug. The controversy became mainstream after President Trump announced in May that he was using hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure to ward off the novel coronavirus.

    The Hydroxychloroquine Timeline
    Since then, there have been conflicting reports and studies on the efficacy and risk of using HCQ (along with zinc and Zithromax) to prevent or treat COVID-19. On May 7, a study became available in the The New England Journal of Medicine showing COVID-19 patients who were treated with hydroxychloroquine did not experience lower risk of death compared to coronavirus patients who received other treatments.

    Later that month, Anthony Fauci discredited the drug in an interview on CNN, saying, “The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy for it.” One day later, research published in The Lancet showed that cancer patients with COVID-19 who received hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin experienced a risk of death 2.89 times greater within 30 days than those who did not receive the drugs.

    However, just a few days after the study was released, Richard Horton, editor of The Lancet, tweeted about the validity of the study the medical journal published claiming a higher risk of death for patients who received hydroxychloroquine. “Serious questions have been raised about the reliability of the findings reported in this paper,” he said.

    That same day, the Arizona-based Association of American Physicians and Surgeons sued the US Department of Health and Human Services for preventing physicians from prescribing hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 preventative. Two days later, on June 4th, The Lancet retracted the study it published May 22 that claimed hydroxychloroquine was linked to higher mortality rates in COVID-19 patients.

    On the same day, The New England Journal of Medicine retracted a separate study showing that blood pressure medications were safe to take for COVID-19 patients. Both studies used data from analytics company Surgispher, which refused to share its raw data with study authors or a third-party auditor after questions about its accuracy arose.

    On July 2nd, the International Journal of Infectious Diseases published a study conducted by researchers at Detroit-based Henry Ford Health System that claimed COVID-19 patients who received a small dose of hydroxychloroquine within the first two days of their hospital stay were more likely to survive.

    On July 27th, a group of frontline doctors gathered on the steps of the Supreme Court to share their success in treating COVID-19 patients with HCQ. Dr. Stella Immanuel, who currently runs a practice in Houston, says that she has treated over 350 patients with the drug with zero fatalities. Other doctors shared their belief that masks are ineffective and that children are not susceptible and should return to school in the fall.

    She cited a study which had recently been published in the American Journal of Emergency Medicine evaluating if hiccups were a symptom of COVID-19. In the study, patients who tested positive for COVID-19 were treated with hydroxychloroquine. The use of HCQ in this study implies its efficacy in treating the disease itself, Immanuel pointed out.

    Within hours, the video had been completely deleted or covered with a “fake news” label by virtually every social media platform. Major news outlets scrambled to discredit the doctors, focusing on Dr. Immanuel’s unconventional religious beliefs as proof that her observation must not be true.

    (Dr. Immanuel continues to practice as a licenced primary care physician in good standing with the Texas Medical Board, and there is no evidence that her experience in treating patients with hydroxychloroquine is untrue.)

    On July 29th, Ohio’s board of pharmacy prohibited pharmacists from dispensing or selling hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19. After a request from Governor DeWine just a day later, the state’s board of pharmacy reversed its ban on hydroxychloroquine for use in COVID-19 patients and said it will reexamine the issue.

    Politics vs Medicine
    On August 3rd, two Henry Ford Health System executives wrote in an open letter that the persisting political climate has made any objective discussion about hydroxychloroquine “impossible.” The following is an excerpt from that letter:

    “The most well-accepted and definitive method to determine the efficacy of a treatment is a double-blind, randomized clinical trial. However, this type of study takes a long time to design, execute and analyze. Therefore, a whole scientific field exists in which scientists examine how a drug is working in the real world to get as best an answer as they can as soon as possible. These types of studies can be done much more rapidly with data that is already available, usually from medical records.

    Like all observational research, these studies are very difficult to analyze and can never completely account for the biases inherent in how doctors make different decisions to treat different patients. Furthermore, it is not unusual that results from such studies vary in different populations and at different times, and no one study can ever be considered all by itself.

    Our promising Henry Ford treatment study should be considered as another important contribution to the other studies of hydroxychloroquine that describes what the authors found in our patient population. We – along with all doctors and scientists – eagerly support the need for randomized clinical trials.

    We also want to point out that scientific debate is a common occurrence with almost every published study. In part, this is what fuels the advancement of knowledge – challenging one another on our assumptions, conclusions and applications to get to a better place for the patients we collectively serve. You can read the original study here and the senior author’s letter to the editor here.

    Unfortunately, the political climate that has persisted has made any objective discussion about this drug impossible, and we are deeply saddened by this turn of events. Our goal as scientists has solely been to report validated findings and allow the science to speak for itself, regardless of political considerations. To that end, we have made the heartfelt decision to have no further comment about this outside the medical community – staying focused on our core mission in the interest of our patients, our community, and our commitment to clinical and academic integrity.”

    The politicizing of potentially life-saving treatments, along with the overreach of our government in banning or mandating these interventions, is the single greatest issue in American medicine today. This issue is much bigger than the simple question of “does hydroxychloroquine work?”

    It’s a matter of fundamental medical freedom and bodily autonomy. Sadly, we are often at the mercy of our leaders in government to protect us from this kind of medical tyranny. Fortunately, there are still some leaders that will answer the call to protect our liberty – even in the face of heavy opposition.

    Governor Mike DeWine is one of those heroes. “The Board of Pharmacy and the State Medical Board of Ohio should revisit the issue, listen to the best medical science, and open the process up for comment and testimony from experts,” DeWine said in a prepared statement.

    It is IMPERATIVE that we support leaders on either side of the aisle who are willing to stand up for our freedoms and protect doctors who work with patients instead of against them. Please take a moment to join our movement today, and discover how you can affect REAL CHANGE in the fight against medical tyranny."

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