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    For Safety, RIGHT?

    Quote Coronavirus Victoria: Plans to extend ‘state of emergency’ for 12 months
    Virus-weary Victorians, hoping to be lockdown free next month, have lashed the “Dictator Dan” after he asked for an extension of coronavirus powers.

    AUGUST 25, 202010:28AM


    Victorian Premier Dan Andrews is facing ongoing criticism after revealing he planned to extend his state of emergency declaration for another 12 months.

    The declaration, which gives Victoria’s chief health officer Professor Brett Sutton the power to immediately enforce coronavirus measures without parliamentary approval, is due to end next month.

    Legislation also restricts state of emergency declarations to a maximum of six months, however Mr Andrews hopes to push this out to 12 months.

    Mr Andrews took to Twitter to issue a late night defence of the extension, reminding Victorians that the state of emergency is needed to give the state’s chief health officer the power to enforce coronavirus measures.



    The extension is due to be debated in State Parliament next week – if Parliament is able to return – however the Premier is already facing a barrage of criticism.

    Despite the criticism from Mr Andrews’ political opponents, a former head of the Australian Medical Association disputed the furore.

    Dr Tony Bartone, the former head of the AMA, said Victoria needed to find a way to emerge from lockdown safely but the state’s health authorities also needed the authority to enforce measures if necessary.

    “It is about having the necessary ability to allow the chief health officer's directives to be enforced,” Dr Bartone told Today.

    “But already we are seeing signs in the community, in my patients, that really this is starting to take a toll and we really need to find a way where we can come out of it and live in a post-COVID world until the vaccine comes along, and really it is getting to be a bit of a struggle at the moment out there.

    “The chief health officer's directives need that framework to be able to be enforced. With those measures, the mask-wearing, the quarantine, the restriction on gatherings, these have all been important measures that have been able to assist us in getting on top of that.”

    Former Victorian Premier Jeff Kennett blasted the extension and said Mr Andrews was a “megalomaniac” attempting a “grab for dictatorial power”.

    Victorian Opposition leader Michael O’Brien did the rounds on breakfast TV this morning to lash the Premier.

    “I don't believe any politician deserves a blank cheque particularly when we see how tough Victorians are doing it,” Mr O’Brien told Today.

    “People have been locked out of jobs, kids locked out of schools. The problem is Daniel Andrews has a plan for lockdown for 12 months but he doesn't have a plan to get us back to work. That’s what Victorians want. We want optimism.”

    Mr O’Brien called on the Premier to “justify why these extraordinary powers should be extended”.

    “And they certainly shouldn't be extended for 12 months with a stroke of a pen,” he said.

    “There is a reason why in law the state of emergency can only exist for six months, and that's because this is the most intrusive circumstances Victorians have ever lived under.

    “We have never had a curfew before. We have never seen all the schools closed and told we have to wear masks. When you have these powers, it is important that the politicians are accountable to the people when they use those powers.”
    Quote Victoria Lockdown Extended for Full YEAR!

    August 24, 2020 — In Australia the province of Victoria was placed on the hardest COVID lockdown of any western nation thus far for a duration of 6 weeks. I wrote about that in a report titled Australia’s Medical Fasicism on August 5.

    Now that lockdown is being extended up to 12 more months! Let’s review what that means:

    Cannot travel more than 5 km from your home
    Can only leave home to exercise 1 hour per day
    Only one person can go shopping per family each day
    All shopping is to be done within 5 km
    No visitors allowed in your home.
    Schooling 100% remote with rare exception
    Shutting down all businesses
    Shutting down all services
    Shutting down all construction
    Shutting down all warehouses
    Can’t leave Victoria
    Global Warming & Resource Depletion

    As I reported on August 5, I believe the true goal of this lockdown is demand destruction. Keeping people in place on lockdown will stop consumption of many resources especially oil and gas for travel. As the global elites continue to worry about Global Warming and resource depletion, I believe the lockdowns are the plan they are implementing to address it in secret, using COVID as cover.

    Recently on WBAI 99.5fm radio in NYC a young eco-activist was being interviewed. When the COVID lockdown in New York was discussed she was very happy to state, “Everything we did during the lockdown in New York is exactly what environmental activists have been saying we need to do for years!” I believe she inadvertently hit the nail on the head with that statement. There are forces at play that are using COVID as a scapegoat to stop over-consumption as well as strip personal liberties. For more information on this theory read my report The REAL Agenda Behind COVID – DEMAND DESTRUCTION

    Additionally Australia is currently facing environmental catastrophe.

    The 2020 wild fires, droughts, and resource depletion (especially water depletion) has placed the nation in a very precarious position. The Powers That Be (TPTB) may have decided Australia needs to be brought to a stand-still to avoid the chaos and anarchy that will follow if their systems collapse. When you run out of water, reality gets really real, really quick!

    Destruction of Our Liberties

    Recently Canadian Constitutional Attorney Rocco Galati was interviewed about COVID lockdowns and was asked about Australia. He believes that country is a trial balloon for the west, and is an easy target because they can legally be ruled by what he called “Parliamentary Supremacy.” That can’t happen in Canada, America, or most European countries because the law-making bodies are not the supreme bodies of their respective countries. For example there cannot be congressional supremacy in the United States because it has been established that it is our Constitution, along with its Bill of Rights, which is the supreme law of the land in our republic.

    Galati is absolutely correct. Australia has an easier time of destroying its citizens civil liberties since the citizenry has less to protect it. But paper is just paper. In the US we have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights, but for the past 19 years I have watched our rights erode starting with 9/11, now entering hyper drive in the age of COVID.






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    Cross posting as talks a lot about Australia


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    Spiro addresses the Covid issues in Australia:

    Also posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1374026
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    Bill Gates is a disgrace. Ad Hominem perhaps, but I think many people are disgusted with this individual, and who he represents. So who are these people, and why are they presuming to tell us all how we must live?
    We are seeing the unfoldment of dystopian projections presented in previous years, projections which the mainstream completely rejected as being outright 'Conspiracy Theories', a steady vice-like application of increasingly authoritarian
    policy, all predicated on the fear of infection for a medium-grade virus which is not even as deadly as previous influenza epidemics we have been through!
    I fully understand that I am stating the obvious here, preaching to the congregation which is already converted. I just wanted to write down, in plain terms what is happening.
    This is bad, compulsion for vaccination.

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    Woman who breached WA coronavirus border by hiding on truck handed six-month jail sentence
    A 28-year-old Perth woman who snuck across WA's hard border hidden on the back of a truck has received what is believed to be the toughest penalty handed down for breaching the state's quarantine laws.

    She had been in Mildura, in regional Victoria, when she asked the driver to give her a lift to Perth.

    The Perth Magistrates court was told Vander Sanden did have an exemption allowing her to fly to Perth, but was told that after she arrived she would have to quarantine in a hotel for 14 days at her own expense.


    Police prosecutor Ian McDowall said after crossing the border, Vander Sanden was taken to a service station in Midland where she rang her partner and asked him to collect her.

    Police tried to locate her, but Senior Constable McDowall said she failed to disclose her whereabouts.

    She was arrested at a unit in Scarborough about 10 days after her arrival in the state, and has spent the past fortnight in quarantine while in custody.
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    while most of this is true not all is

    No visitors allowed in your home. your partner is allowed to visit if you live apart

    Shutting down all businesses - many businesses are still running. non food shops on a click and collect basis
    Shutting down all services - not all services are shut down - dentists, doctors, physiotherapists chiropractors are still operating
    Shutting down all construction - construction is still operating with reduced workers determined by size of site

    that's not to ignore the scores of shopping precincts with shutdown businesses and myriad for lease signs
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    An honourable minister speaking out for Aussies rights to obtain and use HCQ


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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    An honourable minister speaking out for Aussies rights to obtain and use HCQ

    Excellent, Yes. (You beat me to posting it! )

    Chris Martenson has featured it here: Australian MP Craig Kelly, angrily questioning whether "the big hand of government has a right to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship", also rightly pointing out that all the medical trials cited by the Australian Covid-19 Clinical Evidence Task Force have been flawed, and that their conclusions are incorrect and unjustified.

    Start at 10:50. Martenson's comments are exactly as one would expect from him.


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    Alan asks some very pertinent questions of Australians.



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    Quote 500,000 to End the Vic Lockdown & celebrate freedom
    Schedule · Saturday, September 5, 2020 (in UTC+10)
    12:00 PM - 10:00 PM


    The Andrews government must be made accountable for overseeing the biggest public health disaster in Australian history.
    500,000 Australians shall declare the END of the state of emergency, DEMAND a SUSTAINABLE solution from our leaders and ANSWERS to these questions:
    - How many businesses are bankrupt?
    - How many mortgages can't be paid?
    - How many people are homeless?
    - How many people are suffering from domestic violence?
    - How many people are experiencing marriage breakdowns?
    - How many people have committed suicide?
    How much are we going to have to pay for all of this destruction Dan Andrews has caused?
    Dan Andrews - Get out of our lives. We can manage our own well-being.
    ---------------------
    "On 16 March 2020, the Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews announced a State of Emergency had been declared across Victoria to combat the spread of COVID-19."
    "This State of Emergency was extended on 19 July, and ends at 11.59pm on 16 August 2020. Further State of Emergency declarations may be made for further periods of four weeks, up to a maximum total period of six months."
    "Mr Andrews said the extension of the state of emergency until September 13 would ensure authorities could enforce restrictions."
    Daniel Andrews...
    Times up...!
    ---------------------
    Daniel Andrews has a bad habit of shirking responsibility. The Labor Premier introduced a COVID-19 curfew for all of Victoria.
    He shows NO REMORSE for what he and his team of incompetent ministers have done.
    There is NO PUBLIC APOLOGY for the outbreak of COVID-19 in Victoria. There is NO ADMISSION FOR ERROR in the hotel quarantine disaster, its failure to conduct rigorous testing or its rejection of ADF help that could have prevented the pandemic’s second wave.
    The ARROGANCE of Andrews and his team has resulted in PREVENTABLE DEATHS, the DESTRUCTION of small businesses and BILLIONS more in DEBT.
    Dan Andrews said -- “I would not let my mum be in some of these places. I just wouldn’t.”
    As families loved ones are left dying in aged-care are feeling hopeless — Andrews uploads an image posing with his son in a bid to win some votes back.
    The government's job is to look after those that cannot look after themselves. He couldn’t even do that.
    A $3 million, taxpayer funded “arms-length inquiry” will not hold anyone accountable.
    AND THE CHERRY ON TOP! — Daniel Andrews is working with the state’s solicitor-general to introduce new legislation and amendments to allow authorities to extend the state of emergency indefinitely!
    The chief medical officer was granted emergency powers for an additional four weeks, until September 13, pushing it to the six-month legal limit.
    All of Australia will pay for Daniel Andrews’ failure in Victoria, but many Victorians seem reluctant to hold their government accountable.
    UNTIL NOW!

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    “I was the greatest threat the Continuum had ever known. They feared me so much they had to [sic] lock me away for eternity. And when they did that, they were saying, that the individual’s rights were being protected only so long as they don’t conflict with the state. Nothing is so dangerous to a society.”

    - “Q”. Star Trek Voyager, S2E18.


    Years ago, the world imposed trade sanctions on South Africa in condemnation of that country’s blatant abuse of human rights. Similarly, the UN expressed it’s outrage at Somalia in 1992, North Korea in 2006, Libya and others, although one may argue that the situation in Australia does not involve apartheid, not civil war, nor the proliferation of nuclear weapons. Agreed. In Australia, human rights are systematically being trampled roughshod in the name of medical totalitarianism.

    The situation in Australia right now is, in my view, far more insideous and sinister than an open act of aggression against its people, although the time may well be approaching when we witness something similar. In the meantime our nation has effectively suspended the constitution in the state of Victoria, and is tiptoeing towards imposing the same authoritarian and totalitarian control across the nation. Nowhere else in the world at this time is there such a blatant move towards what is effectively mass house arrest.

    The validity of the whole C19 argument is highly questionable and has been largely debunked, although this narrative continues to be promulgated to justify acts of state-sponsored terrorism against the Australian people. Many Australians are beginning to wake up to this nonsense and question the official rhetoric. But not most. At least, not yet.

    When was the last time we imposed this type of ‘lockdown’ either in this country or anywhere else in response to an influenza virus?
    • Did we respond this way to, say, the Spanish flu? It killed millions.
    • How about SARS 1.0 in 2003? Where were the lockdowns then?
    • What about the avian flu of 2007? (Incidentally there’s a current outbreak in Victoria at the time of this writing. See https://smallcaps.com.au/bird-flu-hi...ide-egg-farms/)
    • Did we execute lockdowns to prevent the spread of the swine flu in 2009?
    • How about the seasonal (common) flu? Why aren’t we going into lockdown every year over that?

    No, something’s clearly out of place. But, I lament, there’s an even bigger problem than that.

    The Australian people are beginning to realise that this little ‘fiasco’ is not what it seems; they’ve been shown evidence that their own government has forsaken them, and (in Victoria) they’re now being patrolled by aerial police drones. And still they’re doing nothing to stop or oppose it.

    As much as I watch in absolute astonishment over what is transpiring in this nation, I cannot see the majority of Australians as anything other than part of the problem. Sorry.

    The American people wouldn’t stand for this. Like them or loath them, they recognise their constitutional rights and fight to protect them. In doing so, they’ve attracted international attention.

    Look at Hong Kong. Those brave people are opposing a highly oppressive regime, and they’ve succeeded in giving the CCP a moment of pause. They might not have ‘won’ yet, but they putting a serious ‘spanner in the works’ into China’s relentless erosion of public freedoms. And they’ve attracted international attention.

    And the Australians? We complain and grumble amongst ourselves a lot, but we certainly haven’t demonstrated any courage to tell a corrupt government system that enough is enough. Unless we do that, we’re abrogating our civil freedom. Our civil liberties are under serious threat and once they’re gone, they won’t be coming back. There’s little international attention because we’re not making enough noise.

    Incidentally this isn’t the first time the Australian people have seen civil liberties eroded. So I decided to do a little research on the Australian Government’s own websites, particularly www.humanrights.gov.au, and www.humanrights.vic.gov.au. Imagine my surprise when I read the following:

    “However, Australia does not have a national Human Rights Act. This means that many core human rights and freedoms may not be adequately protected and promoted at a federal level and there is an inconsistent level of protection across Australian states and territories.”

    Well, we’re certainly seeing that right now.

    Somebody once said to me, “Have you noticed that the boats aren’t leaving Australia? We’re one of the lucky countries.” A neat sentiment perhaps, but the key word here is ‘lucky’. You don’t secure lasting peace by being complacent and ‘lucky’. You don’t ensure the integrity of your own government (that you pay for!) by apathy, acquiescence, grumbling and hoping that one day you will get ‘lucky’ and ‘escape to greener pastures’. You only secure and maintain you civil liberties by keeping your government in-check. That could either be achieved (in this case) by unpleasantness, or by everyone en-masse refusing to cooperate with the system until it collapses under it’s own excrement. Perhaps it might need a little bit of both.

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    ^ Tigger - did you author that or if not can you share the link?
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    ^ Tigger - did you author that or if not can you share the link?
    Dear mountain_jim, I authored this. They’re my own words.

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    ...

    ... adding insult to injury...

    'Major victory' for paedophiles as baffling law is passed that could see rape and sexual assault victims thrown into JAIL just for telling their stories

    • Victorian sexual assault survivors could face prison time for telling their stories
    • A law change in February prevents them from using their real names publicly
    • The law is retrospective and applies when an offender has been found guilty
    • Breaches can result in up to four months in prison or fines exceeding $3000
    • A #LetUsSpeak campaign has been launched as victims fight for a law reform
    • Do you know more? Contact Tita.smith@mailonline.com
    By Tita Smith For Daily Mail Australia
    Published: 00:06 BST, 26 August 2020

    Updated: 02:37 BST, 27 August 2020

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    Quote I focus on Australia and the surrounding regions in particular because this seems to be the place where globalists are enforcing technocratic policies first. Or at the very least, they are test-running their strategy and using Australians as guinea pigs. When the ASPI says they plan to keep the pandemic changes in place well after the virus is gone, they aren't just talking about shifting into a digital economy.

    Right now, Australia and New Zealand are slamming citizens with perhaps the most draconian measures yet in the Western world. These are policies that the elites want to introduce everywhere, but they are going full bore in Australia, and it just keeps getting worse.
    http://www.alt-market.com/index.php/...being-revealed

    it's a long read but interesting...

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    Quote Posted by Tigger (here)
    And still they’re doing nothing to stop or oppose it.

    As much as I watch in absolute astonishment over what is transpiring in this nation, I cannot see the majority of Australians as anything other than part of the problem. Sorry.
    It's the whole Laurel and Yanni situation. No matter how much we may want to, some of us cannot hear Yanni. And that is through no fault of our own.



    I made a list around what we are up against and why this is not our fault.
    • The corruption of spirituality via new age philosophy, loss of internal spiritual connection with source, atheism
    • Religion: dogma, persecution
    • Language: inverted, perverted, being P.C, hijacked
    • Environmental disasters and animal kingdom exploitation: oil spills, devastation of wildlife, fracking, electronic waste, plastic oceans, insect plagues and animal extinction, animal circuses, animal breeding, vivisection
    • Natural and manmade disasters - droughts, bushfire, mudslides, landslides, flooding, earthquakes, tornadoes, cyclones, destruction of homes, destruction of crops, destruction of wildlife, geoengineering, nuclear spills and testing, the denuding and altering of landscapes, poisoning of the air with toxic fumes from industry, the motor mobile, shipping and aviation industry
    • The destruction of nature and the land and the effect it has upon our psyche; via fracking, deforestation, growing mono-crops, mining, toxic waste from radiation, toxic wastelands and deserts
    • The splitting of the family unit - divorce and single parenting, destruction of the family unit, sex changes, sterility, education system
    • Societal pressures: Gaslighting, peer pressure, loneliness, group think, cults. keeping up with the Joneses, cyberbullying, cyberstalking, trolls, disinformation agents, child marriage, Social Justice Warriors
    • ABC agency interference and disinformation agents: mind control, The womens liberation movement orchestrated by the CIA, the hippy movement orchestrated by the CIA, the music industry orchestrated by the CIA
    • Chemical and biological warfare: mind control: nano-technology used for behavioural modification, pyschotronic warfare
    • Immigration - borders, detention
    • Money: consumerism, excessive wealth, lack of basic wealth distribution, corruption
    • The entertainment industry; Television, movies, radio, internet, Fake news media, propaganda
    • Extraterrestrial abuctions and mind control
    • The illuminati - the ruling elite and all the bloodlines, satanic paedophiles, black satanic rituals and cults, Royalty
    • Health and wellbeing: Poor diets, processed artificial foods, chemicals; glyphosate, MSG, GMO foods, caffeine, microwaved food, irradiated food, the eating of animals and their byproducts, artificial fertilisers, hydroponics, monocrops, fluoridisation of our waters. Disease - man made and genetic, epigenetically induced trauma, inherited genetic weaknesses, vaccines, Mental illness, denuded soils
    • Hospital trauma; hospital infections, hospital birth traumas, unnecessary caesarians, forcep deliveries, induced labour, circumcision, hospital deaths through error, organ harvesting/transplants, hospital deaths through infection, blood donoring, birth injury, cutting of the umbilical cord, hospital lighting, post and prenatal depression from hospital stays
    • Structural issues within the body due to head injury and body injury, congenital birth defects
    • Pharmaceutical industry: vaccines, prescription drugs, addiction, death through poisoning and overdosage, fraud, manipulation of scientific data
    • Living and working in artificial environments; Mould and funghi, square housing, toxic outgassing from artificial building materials, chemical cleaners, artificial lighting, shoe wearing inside the house, toxic artificial clothing, artificial heating, lead poisoning from industry waste disposal, toys, paint, fumes from vehicles
    • Disconnection from nature: lack of sunshine, artificial lighting, artificial buildings
    • Isolation; lack of true community, lack of support from family and community members, loneliness, depression, scientism
    • Poverty: wage slave pay, poor working conditions, adult slavery, child slavery, monetary inequality, people working just to pay to put a roof over their heads, both parents working to put children through education, working long hours just to make ends meet, sweatshops, unsanitary conditions, overcrowding, starvation
    • Institutionalised living and working conditions: the education system, work ethics and conditions, lack of leisure and creative time, governmental institutions: prisons, psyche wards
    • Education system: indoctrination, slave labour, conditioning and programming, separation from family unit
    • Charities: funds being diverted or withheld or used for nepharious purposes
    • Domestic and street violence: sexual, physical and verbal abuse, murders, kidnapping, robbery, scamming, violent deaths of family members, peodophiles, rapists, narcissists, sociopaths, sex slaves, child and people trafficking, missing people, pornography, drug lords and drug mules/runners, cannibalism
    • Altered histories: The winners rewrite history, genocide of traditional, ancient and ethnic tribes and cultures
    • Warfare - unsafe living conditions, oppression by war victors - take over of countries, unsanitary conditions, Biological warfare
    • Genetic manipulation - chimeras, crops
    • Science: Manipulation of data, fraud, dogma, mechanical vs wholism, scientism, specialists
    • PTSD: depression, suicide, body dysmorphia
    • Addictions: drugs, alcohol, gambling, sex, cell phone, social media, eating, religious, TV, pornography
    • Psychopathic behaviours inflicted upon individuals and humanity, Sociopathic behaviours inflicted upon individuals and humanity, Psychic vampirism
    • LGBT and sexuality issues, transgender issues
    • Exposure to electromagnetic radiation: ultrasounds, mammograms, microwaves, WIFI pollution, cell/mobile phones and their towers, HAARP frequencies, electronic and synthetic telepathy, mass hypnosis
    • The taking of life: old growth forests, lakes, streams, animals, human beings, extraterrestrials.
    • Corporations - cartels
    • Governance: excessive and oppressive government and societal rules and regulations, deep state, courts of law, maritime law, border patrol, state and country governance, taxes, - inconsistencies, intolerance, monarchy, police brutality, police states, state-owned land, privatised water, marriages, dictatorships, strawman, government and military abuctions and control, human chipping, propaganda, secret medical experiments on adults, children and animals
    It's a bloody miracle that we are all still here.

    Some people can hear Yanni...



    Two days ago in Dandenong. Dandenong is a suburb in Melbourne, Australia

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    In the works:

    Provision of an Expanded and Enhanced Active Surveillance System to Monitor Adverse Events Following Immunisation

    https://www.tenders.gov.au/Atm/Show/...9-c522bfa7d936

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    If we cannot produce ID, and even if we have an exemption for not wearing a mask, we can still be arrested. There is an Australian group called, "Know your rights" who are educating Australians on how to beat the system however, the problem is, even knowing and understanding the law, we can still be arrested. Warning, strong language used.


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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    It's a bloody miracle that we are all still here.
    That is a comprehensive list!! I appreciate the way you are able to see the bad but live in the good. Last Sunday in the US there was a gathering of people in Utah to speak for their rights. Del Bigtree's speech warmed my heart because he talked about what is TRUE. We are made in the likeness and image of God. That means that we have the qualities of God. I feel that is the case but to access these qualities we have to be CONNECTED.

    I cannot help but think that the POINT of our lives is to connect to God. That is different from religion. People can make a religion and declare a god (such as what he called out as the religion of Scientism but it could be a religion worshipping any kind of "ISM") and worship that god. BUT that does not make it the true God. IMO it is very telling that the CCP and all tyrants try to shut down the spiritual avenues so people will not CONNECT.

    I have deeply contemplated through my whole life the issue of "free will". I have noticed all the ways we are beat down with how puny and hopeless, hapless and bad we are describd to be. We are traumatized and battered even when the people in our lives meant better but THEY were also traumatized and beat down. It goes on and on......

    What I see is that the intent is always to allow us to rise a little and think that we are "free" as a civilization and then CRUSH us. When we are BEAT back down, I think that supplies a juicy feast for the destroyers.

    Only when we each develop the true relationship to God are we able to be aware that no matter what happens, we are already free. That is not about the world but our inner being. It is so paradoxical that when we are at the "lowest" point we can sometimes THEN connect. One knows and that starts a different kind of unfolding.

    So, I am not sure what will happen. I KNOW we have a finite moment on earth. I know we have to keep standing and when you stand in KNOWING your greater being, you are not afraid to die (which is the biggest stick held over us: that we will be physically killed). WE ARE Individual and fractally god WHEN we know that we are. We KNOW we cannot be killed. Maybe through all the long historic battering, this was the main message we needed to understand?

    That is not to say we should just "take" the battering. It does say to me that we must at all times never doubt that we are designed to be whole, to be free and that if we stoop to be a bully to save ourselves or hurt others to bargain with our fear, we will come around back to the same starting point. Maybe metaphorically we are living in a state of purgatory of some sort? I don't know that but it feels like purging is involved. Purging all illusions concerning what comprises "lack", "power", "importance" and "scarcity" for instance.

    I cannot like the idea that I partcipated in this sorry picture but I also choose to be a loving being and refuse to be a contributor to others pain. It seems paramount to seek the truth. I seek to lose ignorance and dispel my own "illusions".

    So MANY kinds of illusion... like the one that says we are "less than". Self denigration is where we "are" as a collective. Like the idea that there are too many people and that we must all disappear to save the planet. Always the message is broadcast that we are "nothing much" or worse.

    Maybe we will suffer, Not knowing the CONNECTION, no clue about who we are and acting out the hell of this ignorance... until we truly RISE. I listen to the last 43 minutes in the video and feel the inspiration. I love that he shares a message I understand too.

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    So very angry over their refusal to offer Hydroxychloroquine treatment plan!

    Quote https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...ne-push_280820

    DCMO slaps down MP's hydroxychloroquine push
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    4:05pm Aug 28, 2020

    Australia's Deputy Chief Medical Officer Dr Nick Coatsworth has rejected MP Craig Kelly's push for hydroxychloroquine, saying the drug simply does not benefit COVID-19 patients.

    "I think Australians are very clear on which Kelly should be listened to and that's (Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr) Paul Kelly," Dr Coatsworth said.

    "And Paul Kelly, like myself, like all clinicians around Australia, understand that regrettably hydroxychloroquine is not effective for COVID-19."

    Dr Coatsworth pointed out that billionaire Clive Palmer had donated tonnes of hydroxychloroquine early in the pandemic crisis, when it was still thought it might help patients.

    "There are no circumstances where we would sit on that much hydroxychloroquine if it were useful for COVID-19, we would be giving it to patients," he said.

    The World Health Organisation has pulled hydroxychloroquine from one of its coronavirus trials, which Dr Coatsworth said only happened in the case of incontrovertible evidence.

    Mr Kelly said in Parliament that "groupthink" was preventing the use of hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID-19 patients.

    But Dr Coatsworth was unequivocal.

    "Regrettably, hydroxychloroquine is not the answer," he said.

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