The audacity and psyop that is Mike Adams

[Zionbrion]

I have been on the fence about Mike Adams for years, and am now of the conclusion he does not work for the ‘light’ so to speak. I had a snap to reality after I read this article then made him a comment calling him out for hypocrisy and the comment never appears.

This article here, a satire on whole face plastic masks: https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-08-...on-system.html

This come after I read this article: https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-08-...d-weapons.html

He clearly draws lines and creates more division and ends the article with this: God also wants you to fight for your country in every way you can. Pray to God and pass the ammo, in other words.

What a bunch of BS, God wants you to fight for your country. I mean in a deeper sense God also wants China to try and invade our country then.

I realize this emotional outpouring comes from my own fault of wasting my time buying into his fear mongering over the years.

/end rant

[Zionbrion]

I would also like to say, there is a certain value of information he presents, but thats how a psyop works, truth mixed in with propaganda.

But lets face it, his store sales have probably went 10x or more this year

[Gracy]

I don’t think we’d be seeing this bizarre level of hysteria, were it not for his boy Trump’s performance being so pitiful, that he’s losing badly to a guy who’s become so incompetent that he’s essentially hiding in his basement, and losing his mind to old age.

Desperate times breed desperate measures...

[Savannah]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I don’t think we’d be seeing this bizarre level of hysteria, were it not for his boy Trump’s performance being so pitiful, that he’s losing badly to a guy who’s become so incompetent that he’s essentially hiding in his basement, and losing his mind to old age.

Desperate times breed desperate measures...

It's so clear why you moderate the Q thread. Your title: Moderator, appears to be an oxymoron.

[Gracy]

Posted by Savannah (here)
It's so clear why you moderate the Q thread. Your title: Moderator, appears to be an oxymoron.

First off Savannah, it’s not my job to moderate the Q thread, and this topic does not involve Q regardless.

Second: Are you able to compete on the battlefield of ideas? Or do you need to rely on ad hominems?

What about my post distressed you so?

[onawah]

Savannah, please if you must attack, limit your attacks to PMs and don't trash the forum with them.
It's not like we haven't had enough attacks about Q already in particular!
Thanks.

[Luke Holiday]

Posted by onawah (here)
Savannah, please if you must attack, limit your attacks to PMs and don't trash the forum with them.
It's not like we haven't had enough attacks about Q already in particular!
Thanks.

... and perhaps moderators should moderate - this means not expressing polarizing opinions - otherwise their moderation will be perceived as censorship...


Blessings Luke

[Gracy]

Posted by Luke Holiday (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Savannah, please if you must attack, limit your attacks to PMs and don't trash the forum with them.
It's not like we haven't had enough attacks about Q already in particular!
Thanks.

... and moderators should moderate - this means not expressing polarizing opinions - otherwise their moderation will seem like censorship...


Blessings Luke

I see Luke. Care to enlighten me as to how criticizing both the president, AND his opponent, is polarizing?

[Open Minded Dude]

I just wrote this 2 days ago in the other thread about him. I'm lazy so allow me to indulge in self-quoting, here we go again:

I used to read his NN site daily and still browse it today for some 'better' articles. In March/April of this year he was fully on the fear porn bandwaggon going on daily with an exaggerated death count in the headline section, and thus giving the impression that there are people literally dropping dead from the virus in the streets on an hourly basis. I felt disgusted. He had a complete loss of reality.

And of course since he also sells lots of survival and prepper stuff (including masks!) as his business model ... this makes one suspicious even more, right?

It's ambivalent for me. He has done and is doing a lot of good, so this was really hard for me seeing him act this way. I almost thought he would go entirely pro-covid-vaccine at that point.

Luckily he came somehow a bit back to his senses. I think he almost flip-flopped by now being anti-mask/-lockdown/-vaccine again.

I am ready to forgive but there is a bad aftertaste still lingering in my mouth about this. And this guide seems part of it. He is always deliberately fully 100% pessimistic.

Ironically he is behaving exactly like the mainstream media, the elites and their puppet-politicians: FEAR SELLS.

We need realism, yes, since there is a lot of more trouble ahead but this kind of doom porn pessimism is not helpful imv.

Just to add something new for this thread: He has become more 'extreme' in recent years and yes, it looks like he now almost actively promotes VIOLENCE and seems to crave for a civil war or war with China (in the past he also advocated for an attack on Iran and North Korea iirc).

He also realised that his main audience (and customers for his shop) are from the group of heavily armed christian right-wingers.

I'm not so sure if he is really as much a churchgoing devout christian as he wants THEM make believe he is. From the earlier years of me reading his stuff (til 2013 or so) I had the impression he was more open spiritually and maybe no christian at all.

Let's not forget another influence could be Alex Jones since Adams also often acts or acted as interim Infowars host. There is a strong connection, too. Both might share most of the same world view.

There is hypocricy also regarding his Trumpeteering. Just now Trump signed the Gavi treaty giving money to Gates for the vaccine development.

https://www.collective-evolution.com...alliance-gavi/

Mike Adams does a lot of articles to criticise the vaccine industry (rightfully in my view) and Gates and Fauci and all but he does not criticise Trump now going along with it. Why? Can anyone explain? Is it a double-play, is he forced to do this, is it for the election win? We know Trump used to be critical of vaccines (some suspect because of his own son who was injured for life). So what is happening here and why does Adams not write an article criticising Trump for this?

[Delight]

Mike Adams seems committed to his convictions. He is not afraid to say what he believes. Is he a tool? WHO are the tools REALLY? I don't know.

I have appreciated Mike Adams when he has done product analysis and have no issues either with his commercial success in selling "prepper" goods. Mike Adams believes we are beset by an "alien" force that seeks to annihilate mankind. There are many many others who have similar POV whether the definition is of demons, aliens, archons, wetiko, reptilians, jinn....

He is certain "SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES" and we must prepare, fight, battle to death or to win at great cost to many.

Is this REALLY so far fetched? I am not surprised (ANYMORE) by the ideas he dares espouse. At one time I did not want to see it because I had no idea of what could be done. Now I suspect the only things we can do are what we do day to day by refusing to BE EVIL. Personally I just do not know WHO IS ultimately RESPONSIBLE or WHY?

BUT I do Know when I am being less than loving now. That is a hard pill to swallow,.. the small judgements, unkindness, etc. that is possible when afraid, when not feeling LOVE in my own being.

There is OBVIOUSLY a malignant intent at work in our world and messing in (inter)personal affairs. It could be said to originate in the very fabric of our reality. Through history many many many (millions, billions?) have been murdered, tortured, enslaved, imprisoned, ETC. by Imperial designs, petty dictators, jealous neighbors, so called family.......

EVIL exists. I think the only psyop is to instill a passive acquiescence to EVIL. One could call him out for his extreme views that we WILL almost all die from this force. He is convinced IMO he is correct. I am NOT.

[edina]

I don't follow Mike Adams or Natural News much, although I agree that he has impact in helping people wake up to a lot of issues that many of us care about.
As does Alex Jones, who is another person that I don't listen to much, for the same reason I as I don't follow Mike Adams.

They both lean a bit heavily in the negative emotion triggering aspect of marketing. I stopped following a lot of activist newsletters for the same reason.

I do think Alex Jones has some outside group financial help which would make him fall into the category of an "asset", technically speaking.

I think Mike Adams is his own person and is not necessarily any one's asset. He's relied heavily on the "agitate-angry-or-fearful-emotions-to-stir-people-to-action" marketing strategy from the very beginning. Probably because it works. Almost every activist org out there uses the same strategy to generate donations. Some of those groups are also assets of someone else, for example Soros.

Often times the same funders are funding apparently opposite groups and media assets.

As for the present COVID hysteria, I attribute that to how the media are hyping it in general, if for no other reason than to generate traffic to make profit.
That would be the most benign motivation...

I do sometimes get concerned of how people will deal with the cognitive disconnect if Trump wins this upcoming election?

He is not as hated as many people prefer to believe.

[onawah]

Good questions! So many Q fans seem to have this same blind spot, and it's very puzzling.

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)

Mike Adams does a lot of articles to criticise the vaccine industry (rightfully in my view) and Gates and Fauci and all but he does not criticise Trump now going along with it. Why? Can anyone explain? Is it a double-play, is he forced to do this, is it for the election win? We know Trump used to be critical of vaccines (some suspect because of his own son who was injured for life). So what is happening here and why does Adams not write an article criticising Trump for this?

Same here. I think people underestimate how true it is that "the medium is the message"

Posted by edina (here)
I don't follow Mike Adams or Natural News much, although I agree that he has impact in helping people wake up to a lot of issues that many of us care about.
As does Alex Jones, who is another person that I don't listen to much, for the same reason I as I don't follow Mike Adams.

They both lean a bit heavily in the negative emotion triggering aspect of marketing. I stopped following a lot of activist newsletters for the same reason.

[Satori]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I don’t think we’d be seeing this bizarre level of hysteria, were it not for his boy Trump’s performance being so pitiful, that he’s losing badly to a guy who’s become so incompetent that he’s essentially hiding in his basement, and losing his mind to old age.

Desperate times breed desperate measures...

For the life of me, I cannot see how anyone who is paying attention, doing any independent investigation, and truly being objective as humanly possible can conclude that Trump is losing to Biden. That is pure mainstream nonsense put out for public consumption as ipse dixit. Like him or not, Trump is not losing to Biden by any measure.

[onawah]

I agree with Adams that there are some very negative ET and/or ED entities/forces which seem to be working against humankind and possibly want this planet for themselves.
For that reason, I do align with Adams' POV somewhat, although more often than not I object to his and Jones' aggressive fear porn style of delivery, which I consider to be very counter-productive, and not really very Christian.
Though I am often tempted to throw the baby out with the bath water. the fact remains that they both reach a large number of people who might not otherwise be allied in any way at all.
And in today's upside down world, any allegiances are too valuable to risk losing altogether, even if at times they seem more like a liability than an alliance.

Posted by Delight (here)
Mike Adams seems committed to his convictions. He is not afraid to say what he believes. Is he a tool? WHO are the tools REALLY? I don't know.

I have appreciated Mike Adams when he has done product analysis and have no issues either with his commercial success in selling "prepper" goods. Mike Adams believes we are beset by an "alien" force that seeks to annihilate mankind. There are many many others who have similar POV whether the definition is of demons, aliens, archons, wetiko, reptilians, jinn....

He is certain "SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES" and we must prepare, fight, battle to death or to win at great cost to many.

Is this REALLY so far fetched? I am not surprised (ANYMORE) by the ideas he dares espouse. At one time I did not want to see it because I had no idea of what could be done. Now I suspect the only things we can do are what we do day to day by refusing to BE EVIL. Personally I just do not know WHO IS ultimately RESPONSIBLE or WHY?

BUT I do Know when I am being less than loving now. That is a hard pill to swallow,.. the small judgements, unkindness, etc. that is possible when afraid, when not feeling LOVE in my own being.

There is OBVIOUSLY a malignant intent at work in our world and messing in (inter)personal affairs. It could be said to originate in the very fabric of our reality. Through history many many many (millions, billions?) have been murdered, tortured, enslaved, imprisoned, ETC. by Imperial designs, petty dictators, jealous neighbors, so called family.......

EVIL exists. I think the only psyop is to instill a passive acquiescence to EVIL. One could call him out for his extreme views that we WILL almost all die from this force. He is convinced IMO he is correct. I am NOT.

[Gracy]

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I don’t think we’d be seeing this bizarre level of hysteria, were it not for his boy Trump’s performance being so pitiful, that he’s losing badly to a guy who’s become so incompetent that he’s essentially hiding in his basement, and losing his mind to old age.

Desperate times breed desperate measures...

For the life of me, I cannot see how anyone who is paying attention, doing any independent investigation, and truly being objective as humanly possible can conclude that Trump is losing to Biden. That is pure mainstream nonsense put out for public consumption as ipse dixit. Like him or not, Trump is not losing to Biden by any measure.

Okay Satori, you knocked on the door so I'm going to try asking you a question again.

"Trump is not losing to Biden by any measure" you say. The only way I know of (and correct me if I'm wrong!) to gauge ongoing political competitions, is by polling the pool of potential voters. That's a measure, and it's a matter of historical record that the pols were pretty darn accurate in 2016, I don't recall any cat calling at the time over them.

As of right now they almost all say the basement recluse is up by an average of 8-10 points.

If we take the measure of polling out of the equation, saying they're all in on the scam and it's total fake news, what other measures do we have at our disposal to give us an idea of how the race is really going?

This is not baiting or a trick question. I'd really like to know.

[Jayke]

Trump losing to Biden

Hilarious. Just as hilarious as the polls in 2016 saying Hillary was going to win. All that fake polling made me a lot of money by betting on Trump that year. Just as the fake polling will make me a lot of money this year should the bookies raise the odds against Trump, which they haven’t yet because they’re not going to stupidly give money away like that again. The bookies seemed to have learned their lesson about fake polling it seems. Even if the gullible mockingbird media consumers don’t see the con trick in the numbers just yet.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YGJGI1d96Ns

[Sarah Rainsong]

The idea that Trump could not possibly lose to Biden is pretty much echoed in the same number of people who think that Biden couldn't possibly lose to Trump. There is a slim margin. It will be a close election, and regardless of who wins, there will be riots.

[Mike]

OMG, Jayke, that video is priceless

I only wish I shared your confidence in a Trump reelection. Here we are, nearly 4 years after his election, and I still don't quite know what to make of him; but I know Biden will be an absolute disaster. I'm 43 years old and I've never voted, but I will be voting this year.

I think Trump has a much stronger chance than the media are giving him, but I can't say why I believe that exactly except to say they were wrong last time and I'm just as suspicious of the current polling as you are. However, with the exception of the last election, I think pre-election polling has been fairly accurate in predicting the next American president...

...so I don't know what the hell to think at the moment. I hope with everything I have that you're right, but I can't seem to feel anything other than confusion about it all at this point

[Bill Ryan]

The audacity and psyop that is Mike Adams

I don't think so! He's

• Anti vaccine (his latest article, published today, promotes Andrew Wakefield)
• Pro personal nutrition and health responsibility
• Pro Trump (but so are over 100-150 million others)
• Anti Bill Gates
• Anti Tony Fauci
• Anti China
• Anti US Federal Reserve
• Anti Black Lives Matter, Antifa, looting and violence
• Pro science.

I some ways he's immature and self-aggrandizing, into guns and weaponry, and definitely often sells worst case scenarios. But that may not be too dumb right now... absolutely anything could happen in the US before the end of the year.

Audacious, yes. But no psyop.

[enfoldedblue]

My filter for assessing quality of "leadership" ie... should I follow?... is Does it promote an us and them mentality? If the answer is yes, then i know it is ultimately not a high frequency source.
Sure he does put out some good info the is worth exploring.... but as mentioned that is how controlled opposition works.