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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    [...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]
    There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

    Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

    Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.
    Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

    But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?
    Fascism.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    This may be a 5d chess move on the part of TPTB...there is no way they want Trump out of office. He's red meat to most of the media and a dependable sock puppet /division tool. What in the world will they report on cable news without him?!! He's the gift that keeps on giving, I just don't see them wanting to give up the only topic that drives any ratings, unless there's some ''alien invasion'' in the offing?

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    Very strange indeed,
    And it's back. At time of this post typing antifa.com returns > joebiden.com
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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    Very strange indeed,
    And it's back. At time of this post typing antifa.com returns > joebiden.com
    Not here at my end...

    Code:
    [nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
    [17:50:28][aragorn] >  dig joebiden.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> joebiden.com
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2126
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
    
    ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
    ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;joebiden.com.                  IN      A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    joebiden.com.           256     IN      A       151.101.194.132
    joebiden.com.           256     IN      A       151.101.130.132
    joebiden.com.           256     IN      A       151.101.2.132
    joebiden.com.           256     IN      A       151.101.66.132
    
    ;; Query time: 13 msec
    ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
    ;; WHEN: Sun Aug 30 17:51:12 CEST 2020
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 105
    
    
    [nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
    [17:51:12][aragorn] >  dig antifa.com
    
    ; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> antifa.com
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49397
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
    
    ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
    ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;antifa.com.                    IN      A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    antifa.com.             1729    IN      A       192.64.119.246
    
    ;; Query time: 16 msec
    ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
    ;; WHEN: Sun Aug 30 17:51:37 CEST 2020
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 55
    
    
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    [17:51:37][aragorn] >
    But maybe you are looking at antifa.com via a web browser? If so, then whoever owns antifa.com has simply set up a small script that redirects to joebiden.com.

    Also, there has been (and may still be) a problem at Cloudflare today, causing large parts of the US-side of the internet to become unreachable for myself ─ including on Discord. And it is therefore possible that whatever was causing the outage has necessitated the restoring of a backup. If this rollback encompasses the DNS cache, then it's possible that you're now seeing that. But as you can see from the terminal output I've pasted above, this connection has certainly not propagated to me (yet).

    What's also interesting is that joebiden.com defaults to IPv6 when supported, whereas antifa.com is still exclusively on IPv4, as you can see below...

    Code:
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    [17:51:37][aragorn] >  ping -c 5 joebiden.com
    PING joebiden.com(2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644)) 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=14.7 ms
    64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=12.8 ms
    64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=12.7 ms
    64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=15.5 ms
    64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=5 ttl=55 time=25.4 ms
    
    --- joebiden.com ping statistics ---
    5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.686/16.216/25.425/4.729 ms
    
    [nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
    [18:01:13][aragorn] >  ping -c 5 antifa.com
    PING antifa.com (192.64.119.246) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=185 ms
    64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=183 ms
    64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=188 ms
    64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=183 ms
    64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=184 ms
    
    --- antifa.com ping statistics ---
    5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4005ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 182.542/184.333/187.866/1.943 ms
    
    [nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
    [18:01:32][aragorn] >
    2a04:4e42:200::644 is an IPv6 address, while 192.64.119.246 is an IPv4 address. Also note the response time. joebiden.com has an average response time ─ for me, here in Belgium ─ of about 16 milliseconds, whereas antifa.com has an average response time (for me) of 184 milliseconds. That's a huge difference.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    in my view, the vote is for, or not for Trump.

    Its not "for "Biden.
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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    But maybe you are looking at antifa.com via a web browser?
    Yes of course, a web browser, I'm certainly not as techy as you

    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    If so, then whoever owns antifa.com has simply set up a small script that redirects to joebiden.com.
    Clearly so, and that's what continues to be curious.

    I'm not attempting to insinuate anything by conflating antifa with Biden, I'm only pointing an arrow at something that is occurring and is clearly visible and presents a series of questions: who? what? why? when? et cetera.
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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    If you use Redirect Detective you get an interesting result:

    antifa.com > kamalaharris.org > joebiden.com

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    But maybe you are looking at antifa.com via a web browser?
    Yes of course, a web browser, I'm certainly not as techy as you

    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    If so, then whoever owns antifa.com has simply set up a small script that redirects to joebiden.com.
    Clearly so, and that's what continues to be curious.

    I'm not attempting to insinuate anything by conflating antifa with Biden, I'm only pointing an arrow at something that is occurring and is clearly visible and presents a series of questions: who? what? why? when? et cetera.
    I think it's just a cheap shot at defamation from someone on the political right.

    A number of years ago, somebody pulled a similar prank by registering the domain itanimulli.com ─ i.e. "Illuminati" spelled backwards ─ and forwarding it to nsa.gov.

    The use of a .com domain is almost a dead giveaway that it's a fake. Of course, joebiden.com is a .com domain, because politicians are tradeable commodities.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Possibly they (the real puppet masters behind the scenes who only masquerade as human beings) are running Biden for POTUS as just one more veiled insult to humanity, one more way to flaunt their power and ability to screw things up royally for humanity.
    I wonder if they are making sure Uncle Joe is getting regular shots of adrenochrome to revive his failing mental faculties, and delighting in all the suspense that is generating around the questions "Will Biden debate Trump?"and "Will the truth about Hunter's crimes go mainstream soon enough to affect the election?"
    Such diverting distractions!
    (Except once you see through it, it becomes so predictable. )
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    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    The use of a .com domain is almost a dead giveaway that it's a fake.
    Maybe, I don't discount anything. I don't know if the antifa.com domain has ever hosted an official website, these people don't keep 'official' web presences, having said that I'm not sure this domain is 'a prank' that just popped up. The domain dates back as far as 2002, when .com was quite ubiquitous as the domain of choice.

    Click image for larger version

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    What's more, using the way back machine, it isn't the first time the domain has been redirected.

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    *

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    And there are various others. The one above links to itsgoingdown.org, an extremist anarchist website very much inline with antifa, so definitely on the same page.

    Click image for larger version

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    I'm certainly not saying that Joe Biden endorses antifa -- it could be the other way around however -- but it really all depends on who owns and controls this domain. Could be anyone screwing around and for any number of reasons.
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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    The use of a .com domain is almost a dead giveaway that it's a fake.
    Maybe, I don't discount anything. I don't know if the antifa.com domain has ever hosted an official website, these people don't keep 'official' web presences, having said that I'm not sure this domain is 'a prank' that just popped up. The domain dates back as far as 2002, when .com was quite ubiquitous as the domain of choice.

    Attachment 44171

    What's more, using the way back machine, it isn't the first time the domain has been redirected.

    Attachment 44173

    *

    Attachment 44172

    And there are various others. The one above links to itsgoingdown.org, an extremist anarchist website very much inline with antifa, so definitely on the same page.

    Attachment 44174

    I'm certainly not saying that Joe Biden endorses antifa -- it could be the other way around however -- but it really all depends on who owns and controls this domain. Could be anyone screwing around and for any number of reasons.

    This is the real website of Antifa ─ antifa.org.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Antifa - not an organization - .org

    Nice irony, for a very ironic 'not' organization.

    Those knuckle-draggers may not be organized, but someone's pulling their strings. Guaranteed.
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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I was a life long liberal dem for my entire life including voting for OBama. Im very much an anti war guy. With the outrage of BLMatters etc, you would think people would also agree that darker skin Iraqis lives matter as well . We killed and displaced millions of people, families, children etc under false pretenses with the never ending war machine . Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.
    Any party that will stop at nothing to get rid of this guy , is the guy for me.
    Apparently you are not alone, C-SPAN had to change their phone protocols the other night because there were so many democrats calling in to express their support for Trump.

    Trump really is an enigma.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Sleepy Joe Biden back on the campaign trail, already making gaffes. The democrats will have to pull him before November surely, the memers are starting to have a field day.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ThomasCat...94641180139521



    https://mobile.twitter.com/Tracy2219...36332926611457

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    ahh yes, we humans, collectively, are nutz

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Afraid I couldn't resist this. Though it is two separate pieces of footage spliced together, and very effectively, sleepy Joe here is genuine, originally taken from a livestream with Hillary Clinton.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Watch before shut down - 10 minute Hunter Biden and China (this is the free Chapter One)

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Just saw this and shook my head...

    https://rense.com/general96/joe-biden-commercial.php

    And people mock trump?

    From the sublime to the ridiculous.


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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Quote Posted by Frank V (here)
    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    [...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]
    There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

    Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

    Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.
    Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

    But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?
    Fascism.
    Corporatism or Corporatocracy is more accurate; in fascism the government still mostly controls things. (and we all know the federalreserve is a private company...)

    we are actually pretty far from Fascism (which is the FAR RIGHT side of socialism, communism being the far left)

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I was a life long liberal dem for my entire life including voting for OBama. Im very much an anti war guy. With the outrage of BLMatters etc, you would think people would also agree that darker skin Iraqis lives matter as well . We killed and displaced millions of people, families, children etc under false pretenses with the never ending war machine . Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.
    Any party that will stop at nothing to get rid of this guy , is the guy for me.
    Apparently you are not alone, C-SPAN had to change their phone protocols the other night because there were so many democrats calling in to express their support for Trump.

    Trump really is an enigma.
    only president I can think of in recent history that hasn't started a war or a "police action" (call it what you will).
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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Why Biden, indeed. His latest quote was that "a black guy invented the light bulb".

    Not a joke. Speaking at Grace Lutheran Church, he said:
    “We don’t teach history in history classes. People fear that’s, which, that which is different. We gotta, for example, why in God’s name don’t we teach history in history classes? A black guy invented the light bulb, not a white guy named Edison.”
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1301627883123814401


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