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    Hey Doug, what wars has Trump ended again? I hear the lip service, and see him playing yo yo with numbers of troops on the ground same as other presidents, but much like the lip service I hear from him about being a champion for the forgotten man while Julian Assange rots in prison because of him, I'm seeing no action to back up the campaign rhetoric.

    Perhaps you can set me straight on what I'm missing here?

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    ahhh ok, lists... (put together mostly by Peronneau Vandehey)

    Besides the single thing that is a first for a Presidential 4 year term - NO NEW WARS along with a clear intent (and significant progress) towards a draw down of troops in war theaters created by and inherited from previous presidents including Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and Bush 43...

    Trump signed three bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.

    Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
    Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.

    Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the two years before he was elected.

    Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.

    Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.

    Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

    Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.

    Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.

    Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding moms.

    The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country’s highest-paid workers.

    Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.

    Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.

    Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.

    He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.

    Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.

    When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.

    Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.

    In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.

    He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.

    VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.

    Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.

    Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, in 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.

    Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.

    Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.

    All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.

    Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price.

    President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.

    In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.

    The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.

    The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.
    Over 90% of those benefiting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.

    The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.

    Trump increased funding for historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.

    Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
    New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.

    Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.

    Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.

    The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.

    Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.

    President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.

    Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.
    [Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all time high.

    [Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] More than 7 million jobs created since election.

    [Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] More Americans were employed than ever recorded before in our history.

    More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
    Trump appointed five openly gay ambassadors.

    Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.

    Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.

    In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.

    Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.

    Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.

    Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.

    The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.

    Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.

    The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.

    President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.

    The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.

    The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.
    Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.
    ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.

    Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

    Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
    Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.

    Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.

    President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.

    Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
    Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.

    Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
    Withdrew the U.S. from the job killing TPP deal.

    Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

    Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.
    Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.

    Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.

    Trump secured billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.

    The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.

    Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.

    President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.
    8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.

    Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.

    Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.

    Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.

    Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.

    Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] manufacturing jobs were growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] the stock market reached record highs.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Median household income hit highest level ever recorded.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] African-American unemployment is at an all time low.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all time low.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Asian-American unemployment is at an all time low.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] women’s unemployment rate was at a 65-year low.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] We had the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.

    The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

    Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.

    Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.

    Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.

    Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.

    Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.

    Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.

    Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

    U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.

    The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

    NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.

    Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in Carbon emissions.

    Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.

    Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.

    Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

    Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.

    Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

    Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.

    Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.

    Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.

    The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.

    It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.

    In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to States to fund child care for low-income families.

    The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.

    In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.

    In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.

    Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.

    [Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] US stock market continually hit all-time record highs.

    Because so many people asked for a document with all of this listed in one place, here it is. No links provided to remove bias as Google search is easy. Print this out for family, friends, neighbors, etc. I encourage you to drop this list off to voters before the 2020 election too!

    Trump did all of this while fighting flagrant abuse and impeachment charges.
    Please explain to me why you have a problem with OUR president? Because he has misspoke a few times? Tell me when you find a perfect person, please….I’ll wait!

    I’ll tell you why, because the media has skewed him in such a negative light and unfairly report his accomplishments to undermine those achievements! Why? Because the media is complicit in every single thing this man is trying to undo!

    Start thinking for yourself!
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Great chester!!! Thanks for posting

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Another great copy/paste Chester, and still no clarifications about all the continued persecution of Julian Assange, the supposed ended wars, black ops, and strangling sanctions for those who refuse to bend the knee to empire.

    Is this the best we can do?

    As to the “Start thinking for yourself!” ending?

    Pfffttt...

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    Wars often happen on levels that most are not even aware of.

    The press conference from the DOD yesterday refers to Directed Energy Weapons and Cyber Warfare as just a couple of the methods, and I'm quite positive there are many more that nobody will speak of publicly.

    With that in mind, I cannot say with certainty that President Trump has not gotten the US involved in any new wars during his presidency.

    I do know that he hasn't used war as a re-election tool, in the way that so many presidents before him have.
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    Gracie May. I need to correct myself. I have been saying Trump "ended" wars, where I meant he hasn't ,started any. I don't really know the truth of the application"ended" regarding war and conflict. It could be sanctions, and pressures other than direct killing that continues and your term war could include all, which is certainly fair.

    And for that matter, I don't really know the truth of the application or the word "started" as all thru history war has gone on by humans and can be traced forward to this very day
    So we need to excuse the exacts and accept the "in general" term here . Thats how I mean it. And if that cant be accepted, then we may as well close up shop on all language as it is never truly agreed upon.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Biden reportedly under fire in a criminal court case in Ukraine. https://mobile.twitter.com/my3monkee...49696836276224

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Is it possible that you feel Scientific American is compromised because they disagree with your current world view, and the Police Benevolent Association gets "kudos", because they do agree with your world view?
    It's not the right question. It's far too limiting and naïve to believe that political 'agreement or disagreement' in media, publishing, or corporate circles exists. It's down to who's having their strings pulled, who sits in whose pocket. Scientific American are obviously being leaned on to endorse Biden. That's as clear as a clear blue sky. As a widely read publication they have the power to sway minds, and to win votes. They don't give opinions, they supply narratives - that's what the media IS!

    And yes both sides have benefactors and special interests lobbying for them. But in this election cycle there's another variable to that equation, and it should be obvious what it is: Biden, like Obama, like the Clintons and the Bushes, are establishment, the status quo, the war machine, the powers that be – the swamp. Trump is not. Since he came into office he has done, as he himself would say, many tremendous things. See Chester's post, and snort away if you wish, but those are his accomplishments - and I believe there are many more we don't even know about. But the long and short of it: Scientific American have shown themselves to be swamp controlled.

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    This is a fight against the complete destruction of the West. End of.
    No, it's not, but certain people are sure creating that illusion.
    "Creating" that illusion? I'm very sorry you think it's an illusion, and that we here are somehow "creating" it. If the overwhelming evidence piled mountain high on this forum doesn't convince you that we are in a fight against an oncoming dystopian hell, then nothing more I can say ever will.

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    this is not the epic "Good vs. Evil”
    Yes it is, but we can agree to disagree.

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    while the other side gets all their news FOX, OANN, InfoWars, X22, and right wing political hacks?
    I don't get my news from Fox, it doesn't screen in the UK for a start. Although I do appreciate the Tucker Carlson clips I've seen. I think his reporting is probably closer to the actual truth than any other mainstream media outlet. No mainstream reporter or journalist in the UK is even in the same universe as him. All our media are soulless marionettes, programmed to say the same words and beat the same drum - every channel, every paper, every day. And all of it is "orange man bad" without one single deviation in the last fours years. Not one. The historic middle-east peace deal Trump signed this week didn't not only make the headlines, it didn't even feature in 'additional news'. It was media blackout (no one I know is even aware that it happened). That, is the media. That is the swamp.

    And I don't watch Infowars, or X22 hope porn.

    I wish you could see it from my side of the pond, Gracy. We don't live in a democracy here. We don't have any Trump 'outsiders to the system' over here. We are ruled by a monarchy, and by the fat, rich, pedophilic atrocity called Westminster and the City of London. We don't have a Republic, we don't have a Constitution, we don't even have Free Speech. It's not legally recognised, and it certainly isn't honoured - it can in fact be severely punished. I admire and indeed am envious of your system. Ours is a broken record that's been playing for 500 years and more. Thousands, millions, fled this country to escape it, to begin again and create America. I don't hate my country, there are wonderful people here, but our system, its institutions, the body politic, are archaic, monolithic and never, ever changing.

    That's what we want out of. That's why we look to another way – a hugely increasing number of us. The place this increasing number are looking to is your side of the pond. And yeh, to Trump. If the operating system is corrupt you have to reformat, reload, and reboot. I believe, and we increasingly believe, Trump is offering that new operating system, one that could hopefully spread worldwide.

    And you should know, I'm classically left leaning, classically liberal. In 2008 I was ALL behind Obama. I thought he was a beacon of light, that ray of hope for the world we'd all been waiting for. I was excited and optimistic when he won. As I've said many times, it's not so much the party that interests me or sways me, it's the character and integrity of he or she who holds the key positions that's important. I was wrong about Obama, very wrong - we all were.

    Idealistic? Maybe. But truthfully, honestly, I believe Trump is the only hope we have.
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    All those who are anti Trump and for Biden, please sell me on the Harris/Biden admin. How would you sell me? Im still trying to understand for 4 years who or what they are for other than getting rid of Trump? And keep in mind Im a lifelong Lib Democrat voter .

    The only platform for America I started to hear from the Biden camp was, to bring jobs back and invest in America. Sound familar ?

    American in my mind is a Country that , once entered legally, you can sit on your ass or you can make a Million. Its up to you. Its based on merit, free market and competition with an assortment of freedoms and perks added along the way.
    As I have always said, its the best of all bad systems because the Human is not quite ready to come into the light for any communal, "we are one" paradigm

    so no Trump??? please tell me why Biden?

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    Alright you guys, I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way of this rolling Trump Train. Hopefully I didn't ruffle too many feathers in voicing my questions and concerns, but somebody had to do it because I really do see a big potential problem here with the attitude that there's nothing needing questioning, assuming everything the home team does is pure, and in the feeling that one is on god's side so to speak in this supposed epic battle of good vs. evil.

    If y'all think the only way Trump can lose is by "the bad guys" cheating, then that makes both sides unlikely to concede because who in their right mind concedes, in a life and death street fight. This potentially means big trouble no matter who really wins, I'm just glad I'm well supplied, locked and loaded, and live outside the city.

    I'm still thinking more and more that we're being set up for this. Like Chris Martenson always says "it didn't have to be this way", but here we are so that's where I'll leave it.

    See you on the other side


    P.S. FWIW Doug, I don't care for any of these politicians strutting and lying their way across my tv screen every day, that includes Joe Biden and company.
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    so no Trump??? please tell me why Biden?
    I've found no answer other than "not trump" and some strangely veiled threats about he violence continuing if trump is re-elected.. so maybe there's that? less riots?


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    Alright you guys, I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way of this rolling Trump Train..
    Kick over the can and run eh?
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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Another great copy/paste Chester, and still no clarifications about all the continued persecution of Julian Assange, the supposed ended wars, black ops, and strangling sanctions for those who refuse to bend the knee to empire.

    Is this the best we can do?

    As to the “Start thinking for yourself!” ending?

    Pfffttt...
    Here's what the Obama administration's Secretary of State said regarding the prospects of Middle East Peace -



    Yet Trump gets it rolling (Saudi's are next...and four more are on tap) - What are the Iranian Mullah's going to do when they find themselves isolated? What will the good folks of Iran who want the Mullah's gone do?

    Thanks Trump!

    And regarding Assange - that chapter ain't over yet. But what's been maintained by the DNC and the "cops on the take" and a "DNC mouthpiece media" is what everyone else already makes book on... Seth Rich got the ball rolling and Assange put out a $20K reward for any info leading to the capture and conviction of Rich's murderer.

    As for healthcare - Obama Care was a sellout to the medical cartel and everyone knows it. Who wants insurance for mainstream western medicine anyways? And under what "right" foes anyone have to force someone like me to pay for FraudCare and Western Death Technology via some government mandate?

    Thanks Trump for eviscerating it! And thanks for exposing fake conservatives like McCain who (we knew all along) was Washington "owned" "establishment.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    This is a fight against the complete destruction of the West. End of.
    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    No, it's not, but certain people are sure creating that illusion.
    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    "Creating" that illusion? I'm very sorry you think it's an illusion, and that we here are somehow "creating" it. If the overwhelming evidence piled mountain high on this forum doesn't convince you that we are in a fight against an oncoming dystopian hell, then nothing more I can say ever will.
    Thanks Star Mariner...

    and to those who can read this thread (which is everyone) -

    And when one plays a primary, functional role in "information management," then who is doing the creating? Who is managing the illusion they wish others to "believe" via their manipulation of what can be seen and by who? and what cannot be seen and by who?
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Alright you guys, I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way of this rolling Trump Train. Hopefully I didn't ruffle too many feathers in voicing my questions and concerns, but somebody had to do it because I really do see a big potential problem here with the attitude that there's nothing needing questioning, assuming everything the home team does is pure, and in the feeling that one is on god's side so to speak in this supposed epic battle of good vs. evil.
    I don't "do" religion and if you wish to label me - call me a perennialist. My world view is neutral minism.

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    If y'all think the only way Trump can lose is by "the bad guys" cheating, then that makes both sides unlikely to concede because who in their right mind concedes, in a life and death street fight.
    That's the reason the extreme radical left made it such... its the rest of us that have called it out.

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    This potentially means big trouble no matter who really wins, I'm just glad I'm well supplied, locked and loaded, and live outside the city.
    Yep, its one of the stages (and goals) of a color revolution. Look who so happens to be playing a major role in this version of a color revolution? - Obama's White House ethics czar - Norm Eisen -
    Revolver Exclusive — Meet Norm Eisen: Legal Hatchet Man and Central Operative in the “Color Revolution” Against President Trump
    https://www.revolver.news/2020/09/me...esident-trump/

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    I'm still thinking more and more that we're being set up for this. Like Chris Martenson always says "it didn't have to be this way", but here we are so that's where I'll leave it.
    Correct... and I just highlighted one of the primary current architects and managers of this operation.

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    P.S. FWIW Doug, I don't care for any of these politicians strutting and lying their way across my tv screen every day, that includes Joe Biden and company.
    But we are still faced with making sure the worst choice isn't the one who obtains (or retains) power. And that's what all these posts are all about.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    We can all relax, now.

    It was always because of the Martians, uh the Russians.

    Directly from the donkey's mouth, as recorded on video during his testimony before the House Homeland Security Committee, this morning:

    That Twitter thread offers more words of "wisdom" from the most senior official of the FBI (who sent, a few months ago, 15 federal agents to investigate a "noose" in a garage, while seemingly ignoring the riots that have been tearing some cities of the U.S. apart):

    FBI Dir. Wray: Get your voting information from official websites, not social media

    FBI Dir. Wray confirms that white supremacists make up the largest share of racially motivated terrorists in the United States

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    OK GRACIE MAY. got it and thats fine Its basically, cant stand Trump. I have said many times over the years on many post that we have gotten exactly what we deserve. I witnessed the dumbing down of America for many years, History channel being turned into sensationalist garbage, shows like Mob houswives, The Kardashians , the situation , honey boo boo , total reality show garbage, fake, canned, and eaten up by the public who showed by ratings $$$ they would eat more and more , rather than Science,NOVA , Humanities , Classical arts ,Music and higher learning.

    Donald Trump, entertainer, PT Barnum Tv personality comes along and was perfect timing. He worked with Vince McMann in Pro wrestling, the epitome of rehearsed fake , actually honest real fake, and guess what , HE WON !! He beat out all the other all B **** CAREER POLITICIANS, and in doing so , then also actually did a better job in a short 4 years then thay all did in their careers .

    Look again at Chesters list of things he has gotten done!! its incredible, 1.8 Billion for Autism?? The so called NAZI? And thats why they hate him! And thats why I will never again vote for any of these corrupt useless and disgusting people that represent that Dem party today. Doesnt matter what TRUMP does, people drank the coolaid and cant see past the hate. Best thing that could happen is Trump wins, and then the Democratic party rebuilds into what it once stood for and goes for the next election

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    Default Re: Why Biden?

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    Best thing that could happen is Trump wins, and then the Democratic party rebuilds into what it once stood for and goes for the next election
    As an outsider — a stupid Canadian, eh, who should not try and opiniate on American politics, eh — I completely agree with this statement of yours, Doug. Even though politics is perhaps an overrated factor in the whole scheme of things, I do believe that what you have proposed would be the best outcome.

    The Democratic Party has changed a lot during the past decade, perhaps irremediably so. Andrew Jackson and John F. Kennedy, to name only those two past Democratic presidents, would not recognize it today. They would most likely disavow it.

    I sincerely hope that Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, in this current election cycle, are defeated and burnt to the ground. The Party can then work to slowly rise from its own ashes so as to become, once again, a complementary or adversarial voice of reason. Right now, it is mostly crybaby lunacy.

    Very many people, in the past few years, have stated: "I did not leave the Democratic Party, it left me".

    I am including a few short videos that exemplify and bring light to that conundrum and that, as far as this thread is concerned, can help one answer: Why Biden? (or, oppositely, why Trump?)




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    Default Re: Why Biden?

    Quote Posted by atman (here)

    I am including a few short videos that exemplify and bring light to that conundrum and that, as far as this thread is concerned, can help one answer: Why Biden? (or, oppositely, why Trump?)
    And this, from Keri Smith: (She's a classic old-fashioned liberal, so that's why she's voting for Trump.)


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    I don't think you need be trying to walk on egg shells with your opinions Star, this is pretty much a fire engine red MAGA forum by this point anyway, and I'm no shrinking violet.
    Give us a Tulsi Gabbard on the left and that just might change.... but that's just not how the DNC rolls--nor the RNC before DJT steamrolled the party into submission with well-overdue non-partisan populist politics (for all intents and purposes).

    I know it's unpopular with some members of the forum to park the bright-red fire engine in the drive, but as a non-partisan observer that's just the way I see it. That said, we count on you, Gracy, to keep us in check if we ever start reeving that fire engine just a little too hot

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)

    I don't think you need be trying to walk on egg shells with your opinions Star, this is pretty much a fire engine red MAGA forum by this point anyway, and I'm no shrinking violet.
    Give us a Tulsi Gabbard on the left and that just might change.... but that's just not how the DNC rolls--nor the RNC before DJT steamrolled the party into submission with well-overdue non-partisan populist politics (for all intents and purposes).

    I know it's unpopular with some members of the forum to park the bright-red fire engine in the drive, but as a non-partisan observer that's just the way I see it. That said, we count on you, Gracy, to keep us in check if we ever start reeving that fire engine just a little too hot
    Thanks T Smith, very concise and diplomatic.

    The DNC has long since shown their true colors in how they outlaw any semblance of the traditional left amongst their ranks, and show their asses on a daily basis, the only reason I've never really commented on that is because there's never been any need to here, it's already out there in spades.

    Reminds of the hollow carcass Neil Young describes in "The Needle and the Damage Done". Yep, that's today's democratic party, a setting sun.

    Quote I've seen the needle and the damage done
    A little part of it in everyone
    But every junkie's like a settin' sun


    Now as to the keep us is check part, that's what I just concluded, as IMO that horse done left the barn already which is why I'm done. I see a disaster of equal proportions lining up on this new hard right wing, fire engine red Trump phenomena, and recent comments have been my way of ringing the warning bell, against all odds, that danger lies straight ahead in it's unquestioning, and ever increasing intensity.

    There can be only one, and all are compelled to choose a side in what I consider to be a false, either or choice.

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