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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by graciousb (here)
    Quote Posted by Geophyz (here)
    I believe the October Surprise is a magnetic pole reversal. The South America magnetic anomaly is shuttering and suffering from recordable changes. It is so weak that satellites are affected when they fly past. Could this be the cause of over 7000 lightening strikes recorded in California in a 48 hour period? Changes in the earths magnetic field allowing more cosmic rays in and thus more lightening?

    The Earth will only allow so much abuse to be heaped upon her before she strikes back.
    Maybe that's where all the ''upside down'' imagery is coming from that people (including myself) are getting?
    I got that same message, more or less, very strongly, in 2012, 2013,continuously. Right is all wrong, wrong is all right, upside down, inverted, etc. Maybe these revelations were to prepare us mentally for what is coming. To stay strong, stable and grounded.
    "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what we share with someone when we are uncool." From the movie "Almost Famous""l "Let yourself stand cool and composed before a million universes." Walt Whitman

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Anyone else reminded of the book 'Lucifers Hammer" by Larry Niven? It's about a comet hitting the earth. Read it years and years ago.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Quote Posted by graciousb (here)
    Quote Posted by Geophyz (here)
    I believe the October Surprise is a magnetic pole reversal. The South America magnetic anomaly is shuttering and suffering from recordable changes. It is so weak that satellites are affected when they fly past. Could this be the cause of over 7000 lightening strikes recorded in California in a 48 hour period? Changes in the earths magnetic field allowing more cosmic rays in and thus more lightening?

    The Earth will only allow so much abuse to be heaped upon her before she strikes back.
    Maybe that's where all the ''upside down'' imagery is coming from that people (including myself) are getting?
    I got that same message, more or less, very strongly, in 2012, 2013,continuously. Right is all wrong, wrong is all right, upside down, inverted, etc. Maybe these revelations were to prepare us mentally for what is coming. To stay strong, stable and grounded.
    I have been saying that the (matrix) world is "Inside out, upside down and backwards" to trueality since about 2008. I have been thinking that to understand anything, you have to be able to think in paradox. Have been finding that I am not the only one 'getting the message". More and more say things that I could have said. That is so reassuring. As hard as everything feels, I am thinking WE are keeping it all straight. I have been expecting "an event" all my life, as if waiting around. Whether it's called ascension, "rapture" or "new earth split", SOMETHING is speaking to us in common... we know that we have the responsibility for our heaven/hell and we genuinely CRAVE the world of heart and soul. We are BABES and I feel we have the whole of forever to grow in. That is my known under all the "stuff".

    Maybe there is an energy wave building and spreading out from the center. You have to STRETCH to hold it and that is why so many are either getting the message or going insane? I really really cannot give up the idea that behind the screen or veil or whatever one might call it is a force with PURPOSE that is for us, loves us, and is INVOLVED.

    I am with the pain my friends feel but I am doing well. A SURPRISE IMO could be great beyond our wildest dreams IF READY?

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote I have been saying that the (matrix) world is "Inside out, upside down and backwards" to trueality since about 2008. I have been thinking that to understand anything, you have to be able to think in paradox. Have been finding that I am not the only one 'getting the message". More and more say things that I could have said. That is so reassuring. As hard as everything feels, I am thinking WE are keeping it all straight. I have been expecting "an event" all my life, as if waiting around. Whether it's called ascension, "rapture" or "new earth split", SOMETHING is speaking to us in common... we know that we have the responsibility for our heaven/hell and we genuinely CRAVE the world of heart and soul. We are BABES and I feel we have the whole of forever to grow in. That is my known under all the "stuff".

    Maybe there is an energy wave building and spreading out from the center. You have to STRETCH to hold it and that is why so many are either getting the message or going insane? I really really cannot give up the idea that behind the screen or veil or whatever one might call it is a force with PURPOSE that is for us, loves us, and is INVOLVED.

    I am with the pain my friends feel but I am doing well. A SURPRISE IMO could be great beyond our wildest dreams IF READY?
    Your post made me think of something I was told about 16 years ago re "frequencies" changing which I didn't really understand but maybe its where we are headed in the near future. 'The Turning. Inside out, upside down, over and under, back and forth, through parallels and dimensions and through the very matrix of your soul structures.'
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Here is no surprise:
    We have some astrological influences coming up:
    Positive: Mercury goes into Libra ( balance and peacekeeping) Sept 5, Venus goes into Leo Sept 6 then Virgo on Oct. 2, Jupiter goes direct on Sept 12 [good]
    Challenging: Mars retrograde in Aries until Nov 13 so fireworks are on! Mercury Retrograde October 13th to Nov 3 [yes the mule kick is on target for voting day! so anything can happen]
    We have a Satanic high holy day on Sept 21-Autumn Equinox so trouble is always on that forecast.
    Watch for real fireworks: Pluto goes Direct Oct 4 with Saturn going direct on Sept 29 for the next 2 1/2 years. The hammer will drop. Pluto and Saturn mean business.

    All of these influences will affect our psyche and how we react in a lot of ways.
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    So to recap, you’ve had a feeling that something is coming and others said pretty much the same to you? (Like it’s not based on something you saw or heard?)....interesting, i guess in a way I am as well, but mine has to do with the IT pulling something so he gets re-elected, of course war is the first thing that comes to mind but with him one never knows. Time will tell...and I hope I’m wrong.

    Sorry..That was for Bill in the OP.

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    Quote Posted by Islander12 (here)
    So to recap, you’ve had a feeling that something is coming and others said pretty much the same to you? (Like it’s not based on something you saw or heard?)....interesting, i guess in a way I am as well, but mine has to do with the IT pulling something so he gets re-elected, of course war is the first thing that comes to mind but with him one never knows. Time will tell...and I hope I’m wrong.

    Sorry..That was for Bill in the OP.
    From the moment the virus became public knowledge in mid-January, I had a great deal of attention on it and felt sure this was something extremely important.

    Then, in March, longstanding Avalon member Elainie posted what she'd been told by a woman she knew who was ex-CIA, now working for a different agency that she couldn't reveal. Her friend told Elainie that the virus was "100% a bioweapon", she was "shaken up" and said she'd be heading for the hills before September, because after that it'd be too late.

    But Elainie never discovered what the coming situation was that her friend seemed to have foreknowledge of.

    I never forgot that for a moment, and I've posted about it myself several more times. (Elainie is 100% reliable, and I know she has those kinds of contacts.) So after that I kept a lookout, on Avalon and also the wider internet, for other people sensing the same kind of thing, and I found that there were many.
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Islander12 (here)
    So to recap, you’ve had a feeling that something is coming and others said pretty much the same to you? (Like it’s not based on something you saw or heard?)....interesting, i guess in a way I am as well, but mine has to do with the IT pulling something so he gets re-elected, of course war is the first thing that comes to mind but with him one never knows. Time will tell...and I hope I’m wrong.

    Sorry..That was for Bill in the OP.
    From the moment the virus became public knowledge in mid-January, I had a great deal of attention on it and felt sure this was something extremely important.

    Then, in March, longstanding Avalon member Elainie posted what she'd been told by a woman she knew who was ex-CIA, now working for a different agency that she couldn't reveal. Her friend told Elainie that the virus was "100% a bioweapon", she was "shaken up" and said she'd be heading for the hills before September, because after that it'd be too late.

    But Elainie never discovered what the coming situation was that her friend seemed to have foreknowledge of.

    I never forgot that for a moment, and I've posted about it myself several more times. (Elainie is 100% reliable, and I know she has those kinds of contacts.) So after that I kept a lookout, on Avalon and also the wider internet, for other people sensing the same kind of thing, and I found that there were many.

    My current inclination is towards it being a 'plan' more than a 'natural' event. The tip we got from within the agency world could easily be about such a thing.

    I've seen that despite a shock due to Trump's election in 2016, the planners have got back to work and seem to be pushing ahead with at least some of their original rollout of whatever it is they are up to. The 'Podesta disclosure' plan went ahead anyway, for example. Quite a few other ongoing things feel like they are the old plan slightly tweaked to take into account the fact that Hillary Clinton isn't sitting in the Whitehouse.

    On that basis, that the plan continues, it's significant that this is the point on the calendar where Hillary Clinton would have been up for re election to a second term as president. An October surprise would have been about keeping her in office, but obviously has to be reformatted under these circumstances.

    I don't know how to convert all that consideration into an acurate prediction and description but it screams at me to try.
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Nothing except associations in men's minds.

    Is there not enough real things to deal with, without piling on more on top of it with imaginative speculation?

    Look at what we have been reduced to and you'll see that such speculation never did a damn thing for anyone.

    We have been reduced to discussions, while things we do not know about are almost constantly being orchestrated without our consent to be participants in. We have gotten used to looking forward to the next best thing, because it's "suppose" to happen.

    The golden rule of the conspiracy mindset is to never get caught up into anything at first glance, ESPECIALLY when it comes from the mainstream media. This applys to alternative sources as well.

    With such a mindset you are already more free than one who "goes with the wind".

    The only thing I can suggest, because it applys to all life at all times, is self-reliance with a group of other self-reliant people. To be independent, is the only real goal, and that can be subjective depending on the state of the person in question, and by that I mean how they see themselves as assuming independence
    from the circumstances of "life". Things like learning how to garden as many are doing and have done is more REAL than thinking ahead with associations which can be true later on or false depending on how future circumstances will be, because one is then not relying completely and totally on outside influences. One can believe anything and think they are right or have always been right based on the association and event involved if it appears similiar enough to one's own inclination.

    The kind of independence I mean is where one is ready for anything, because one is prepared for anything. There is nothing speculative about assuming the preparation for anything so as not to be caught off guard if anything goes against our associations. We must all strive for such independence and the kind of honesty to one's self that we do not know, because if we did, we surely would not be speculating and grasping for straws.

    Look at the Doomsday predictions of 2012 for an example: look how many were wrong because they based an assumption on many associations from alternative media, from everyone being lifted up to a higher consciousness, to civilizations
    being destroyed, spoken of in varying ways so as not to get CAUGHT as the charlatans they are who espoused such ideas. Try and remember the conversations people were having back then and look how they alloted to nothing except false hopes and fears, and in some cases, empty wallets.

    We must be skeptical of our own associations no matter how much we "think" something will come to pass on such grand scales.

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    I've not (somewhat disappointingly) had any personal strong forewarning insight or 'moment' into what we may expect in the weeks to come, but, do rather wonder whether it will be a natural event. I think the Carrington Event may have been mentioned somewhere here but don't immediately recall - quite possibly it has.

    If not then there's an interesting article here about that very same event:

    A Warning from History: The Carrington Event Was Not Unique
    AUGUST 30, 2020 / DR.TONY PHILLIPS

    Sept. 1, 2020: On Sept. 1st, 1859, the most ferocious solar storm in recorded history engulfed our planet. It was “the Carrington Event,” named after British scientist Richard Carrington, who witnessed the flare that started it. The storm rocked Earth’s magnetic field, sparked auroras over Cuba, the Bahamas and Hawaii, set fire to telegraph stations, and wrote itself into history books as the Biggest. Solar. Storm. Ever.

    But, sometimes, what you read in history books is wrong.

    “The Carrington Event was not unique,” says Hisashi Hayakawa of Japan’s Nagoya University, whose recent study of solar storms has uncovered other events of comparable intensity. “While the Carrington Event has long been considered a once‐in‐a‐century catastrophe, historical observations warn us that this may be something that occurs much more frequently.”

    [article continues.......]
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Years ago, I bought a short wave radio for myself and my son, have it in a ‘faraday cage’ giant cake tin, other special data storage in those foil wraps that protect folk against cold weather, but hopefully this won’t happen as it would mean my family being stranded abroad. Years ago I bought freeze-dried organic meals, which were so useful for folk on fishing trips eventually. Perhaps I’ll reorder, they last for 25 years! However, I don’t want to ‘survive’ for 25 years without my family....
    Nevertheless, tin foil wrap is always useful, especially for electronics. I learned this as my partner had a faraday cage room, to test electronics. Hope this doesn’t happen of course....
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    I've not (somewhat disappointingly) had any personal strong forewarning insight or 'moment' into what we may expect in the weeks to come, but, do rather wonder whether it will be a natural event. I think the Carrington Event may have been mentioned somewhere here but don't immediately recall - quite possibly it has.

    If not then there's an interesting article here about that very same event:

    A Warning from History: The Carrington Event Was Not Unique
    AUGUST 30, 2020 / DR.TONY PHILLIPS

    Sept. 1, 2020: On Sept. 1st, 1859, the most ferocious solar storm in recorded history engulfed our planet. It was “the Carrington Event,” named after British scientist Richard Carrington, who witnessed the flare that started it. The storm rocked Earth’s magnetic field, sparked auroras over Cuba, the Bahamas and Hawaii, set fire to telegraph stations, and wrote itself into history books as the Biggest. Solar. Storm. Ever.

    But, sometimes, what you read in history books is wrong.

    “The Carrington Event was not unique,” says Hisashi Hayakawa of Japan’s Nagoya University, whose recent study of solar storms has uncovered other events of comparable intensity. “While the Carrington Event has long been considered a once‐in‐a‐century catastrophe, historical observations warn us that this may be something that occurs much more frequently.”

    [article continues.......]
    so a version of 2012 almost happened - maybe some help arrived rather than chance? (and I was aware of Terence McKenna's 2012 time-wave zero theories for many years, having attended a talk of his in 1994 - Ravings In The Light of the Third Millennium - and read his books - was surprised at how it became such a thing.)

    Quote In July 2012, NASA and European spacecraft watched an extreme solar storm erupt from the sun and narrowly miss Earth. “If it had hit, we would still be picking up the pieces,” announced Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado at a NOAA Space Weather Workshop 2 years later. “It might have been stronger than the Carrington Event itself.”
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    . . . she was "shaken up" and said she'd be heading for the hills before September, because after that it'd be too late. . . . .

    Maybe we shouldn't be talking about an October surprise at all, but a November surprise.

    What Elainie actually said in her follow up post a couple of fast moving pages after the one you linked to was:

    " . . . there might be a window of opportunity for those of us not off grid to get into an off grid situation in Sept/Oct. but not after . . . ."

    That includes October in the window of opportunity.

    What comes straight after October? . . . . the election.


    Here's a very seriously alarmed Alex Jones starting his Thursday show with what looks like his finger on the November Surprise. Even in the very likely event that Trump wins with a landslide, they're not going to let Trump have his victory speech on the telly at all. Instead, they are going to declare Biden/Harris the winners and have an alternative inauguration which will trigger total all out civil war (deliberately, as a full declaration of war).


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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    I was writing a post here about how I see the october surprise(s). And my personal ideas about how to handle those. While writing it it turned in a thread of it's own:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...er-Surprise-s-
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Wouldn't surprise me either if November is where the chaos truly begins (perhaps with an event in October leading up to it). On my facebook page as of late, I've been making it a habit of deleting/unfollowing people who are increasingly screaming for blood in case Trump wins, along with others on the conservative side of the equation. It's becoming less about simply agreeing to disagree, and more so about distancing myself from those who may lose their **** come November and be all to happy to report or cancel people if they aren't good revolutionaries. If the election results are contested over a prolonged period, it could erupt in flames.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    I'll offer the following, not as speculation, and not expectation, but the top of my wishlist - or very close to the top.

    This:



    I don't know if Trump's going to disclose, I think he might, but the above scenario, coming in one shape or another, IS inevitable. It will either come from the government(s), or they will force it. It's just a matter of when.

    The dam of secrecy eventually has to break, the pressure to break it is stronger now more than ever. I remain convinced we've been close before. I strongly suspect Nixon wanted to disclose, and was in agreement with efforts behind the scenes to take the first steps towards disclosure at that time. That's discussed elsewhere, so is Bush Snr who may have put the kibosh on that, and Watergate is tangled in with it.

    But if there's going to be a surprise, any surprise, I'm hoping for a very happy surprise. How often is disaster and chaos referred to as a 'surprise' anyway? Usually, a surprise is described as something unanticipated that inspires wonderment and delight.

    Let us hope for that.
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    I feel that I should comment, as I too have experienced strange dreams as well as a negative "feeling" of impending doom. To preface, for the past week or so I have had night sweats really BAD! Never in my life have I experienced this (I am healthy as far as I can tell). I started to chalk up these dreams as maybe a sign that my death was upon me. That is how emotionally charging these dreams were.

    First dream: I am at my house, and I look outside the window. I see two LARGE grizzlies sniffing around our porch. I am instantly overwhelmed with fear. They seem familiar. I notice my dad quickly rushes outside to the front to retrieve something. He quickly races back into the house and we spend hours hiding in fear.
    Second dream: I am holding an infant in my arms while standing near a swamp. All of a sudden, an alligator pops out of the water to bite me. Out of fear, I drop the baby and run for it. I remember feeling an immense amount of guilt and blaming myself. I wept and wept.
    third dream: I am driving and I am suddenly a witness to a crime. For some reason, I am caught up in following this crime, almost a "fly on the wall," and I follow the trials til the end. I do not have much memory of the detail from this dream, but I remember feeling extremely ANXIOUS watching it all unfold right before my eyes.

    I have been saying for months now that this is not over. I, as all of you, have been sensing something BIG approaching. What could it be? I think of the election, new virus outbreak or increase in shutdowns once again, alien disclosure, an all-out war, indictments for sick hollywood pedos and government officials, civil war between POC and whites.

    We are living in scary times. You can't help but think that all of these collective dreams and intuitions we are all experiencing COULDN'T be a coincidence... could it?

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    I also had a dream a couple nights ago about crocodiles...they were all around me - under the floor, in the beds, etc.

    But they were not a threat - for some reason I knew that they were more of a symbol than a reality and then they disappeared.

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    I know some have posted concerns that those of us with premonitions are playing chicken littles. However, I have never seen Western society so strangled by BS in my entire life. Even the 'war on terror', although it had its censorship, as witnessed by the treatment of the Dixie Chicks, this kind of highly active cersorship I have never witnessed before. The independent press has been completely compromised. To have highly qualified objectors completely silenced and vilified, like Dr. Simone Gold and her American Frontline doctors, is appalling.

    The BS that is Covid-19 is pathetic that it's not even funny. Not one scientist, or medical professional, has isolated this 'virus', any where in the entire world (according to atleast 11 freedom of info requests done in my native Canada to Health Canada, and David Icke says the same result is obtained in other countries). Chief medical officers have admitted that the CV tests are likely 50% false positive. The CDC admits that only 6% of the covid 'deathcount' in the USA were from covid alone. The stats point to this being less severe than the seasonal flu.

    Having said all this, that CV is statistically nothing more than the seasonal flu, we still have mandatory face masks around much of the world. A known cure, hydroxychloroquine, is banned in most western countries. Almost every nation is jumping on board the vaccine bandwagon when history shows that effective vaccines take 10+ years to develop. And many jurisdictions are calling to make this vaccine mandatory..

    This is all unfolding as per Event 201 from last fall, promoted by the gates foundation, the world economic forum and Hopkins u. The world economic forum is hoping for a 'global reset', where a one world government is implemented to enforce UN Agenda 2030, which includes the Green Plan. If you think this is conspiracy theory lookup the most recent world economic forum speechs and agenda from January 21-23 2020 in Davos Switzerland.

    On top of this, this should royally creep you out:. GAVI, the Vaccine Alliance, and MasterCard are rolling out a vaccine tracking system tied to a biometrics reward system: "Under the banner of “efficiently delivering vaccines to millions of children, tracking identity and immunisation records in a digitised manner and incentivising the delivery of vaccines,” Gavi the Vaccine Alliance - leading partner and catalyst, and Mastercard acting in the capacity of technology partner - have embarked on a Public Private Partnership aiming to deploy the Mastercard Wellness Pass for interested Gavi eligible countries on December 2018."

    https://www.gavi.org/investing-gavi/...les/mastercard


    So, my point with all this, is that we are living in extremely unusual and risky times. I have taken the advice of living as independently and preparedly as possible. I hope you have too. The premonitions that many of us are having are for good reason. How reality actually unfolds will be interesting, but I think that there is credibility if this forewarning, imho.
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    I also had a dream a couple nights ago about crocodiles...they were all around me - under the floor, in the beds, etc.

    But they were not a threat - for some reason I knew that they were more of a symbol than a reality and then they disappeared.
    I can only recall once in my life dreaming about crocs. I was standing with my dog at the end of a long hallway. At the other end was a crocodile that was slowly dragging himself up the hallway towards myself and my dog. I was unable to move but my dog rushed towards the croc and I was unable to stop him because I could not move. I found this dream very distressing and worrisome and I forced myself awake before the inevitable happened. Less than 3 weeks later, my much loved dog died. Since dreaming about a croc was a first for me, I decided to look up the symbolism and I found that dreaming of crocs (and maybe alligators too, not sure), usually precedes a death of some sort. It tends to come as a warning and is not good news. So, your dream certainly got my attention. Since there were so many of them, I hope this doesn't represent some widespread calamity coming down the pipe. Still, if you weren't feeling threatened, then perhaps they showed up for another reason?

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