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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    My own "download" came after reflecting on this intensively for a while. I suddenly "got", with what felt like complete clarity:
    A hammer blow.
    I wrote it down immediately, and noted the time. (9 August, a week ago, just before 4 pm US Central time.)

    10 minutes later, I got exactly this:
    It’s something “paralyzing”. Shock, no-one knows what to do, no-one's expecting this, no-one's planned for this.
    That's all, Nothing more, and nothing since.
    That feels like it could go along with a discovery of something threatening the whole planet. If it is a real threat, is it a discovery that wouldn't be imminent, but the effects felt were over a period of time that would make control type planning over the populations a way to prevent chaos possibly.

    Or is event a surprise even to the planners? Or it might fit a public visit from ET to intervene the Covid-19 long term plan or intervene if there was a cosmic threat.
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    While reading this, I am reminded of winlights dowsing predictions about natural disasters occurring...it seems it might have been around this time? Now Warren has passed on. Any relationship between the two sets of predictions, I wonder? Diane

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    What if the surprise is a “pleasant surprise”, being that there will be no surprise?

    Ps. And, I suspect that whatever “surprise” may occur, there will be those who say they are not surprised and that they saw it coming. So what is a surprise?
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    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    I've read on forums so many prediction dates and deadlines for years that did not come to pass, so that I am sceptical of any calamity or apocalypse dates. I remember for example September 2015. Many predictions were the same as to global catastrophes or shifts. Nothing happened, at least nothing too noteworthy next to the usual batch of natural disasters, political upheavals, war or terrorism events around the world.

    And how about the 'surprise' being something 'positive'? Is this unthinkable? Surprise is a neutral word after all, so it might go either way.

    Anyway, intrigued by the thread, I decided to quest my dreams for an anwser. Years ago I was good at dream programming and got always some interesting answers. I will try the same take notes and report back here and see what came up.

    Dear Open Minded Dude,

    Would you mind sharing your dream programming technique? It seems like something I would like to try myself.

    Thanks in advance..

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    Wow, we are definitely living through some dark and heavy energies at this time in our history.

    Ultimately, I do feel the outcome will be positive. "This too shall pass". That said, I wake up in the morning and before I even open my eyes I can feel I'm in a state of anxiety and have to literally calm myself down by focusing on my breathing before I can get out of bed. I feel this is a subconscious anxiety related to what we are currently living through and what is yet to come. I say subconscious because during the day I don't feel that level of anxiety.

    I don't have specific details regarding what's yet to come I just feel it's going to be absoute chaos. Lots of fear, continuing confusion, further division, 'them and us' rhetoric; between now and the end of 2020 in particular.

    I have another recurring though /feeling that tells me that I'm 'protected', whatever that means. I know that that is something very personal to me, rather than a global protection but it's giving me a sense of peace within the anxiety, if that makes sense.

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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    What if the surprise is a “pleasant surprise”, being that there will be no surprise?

    Ps. And, I suspect that whatever “surprise” may occur, there will be those who say they are not surprised and that they saw it coming. So what is a surprise?
    Yes, I see it as a good thing. By comparison, what is horrific for some, is nothing to those that’ve have learned to roll with the punches and learned to tap into the sweet spot of creativity and problem solving solutions. Many haven't had the opportunity to realized how strong their spirit is, and how the will to live is innate, and change is a natural part of life.

    The technologies deployed that programs our mind to override our senses will be destroyed. Those whose frequency is low and dark will quickly wither away.

    After the initial shock to the system that we’ve lived in a manufactured illusion of power and control, we finally begin to live in the way we are meant to in a supportive, loving environment. Waken to our natural gifts.

    Many will be stunned or in a stupor, some will be angry and will want to lash out. We'll know when to be supportive in their cathartic process and when to step in.

    From the larger perspective, many are/have been afflicted by this virus across space and time. What’s coming IS big because it changes more than just humanity here on Planet Earth.

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    Quote Posted by HikerChick (here)
    I've also had a feeling that seems to have come out of nowhere that I need to stock up on essentials very soon. My dream recall hasn't been great recently but I had a really vivid one a few nights ago. I met this young, good-looking guy who was really keen on me (woo hoo at my age!), he wanted to go all the way but something made me hold back. It was like I could sense a hunger and darkness in him.

    I would interpret this as a warning towards caution and to trust my intuition, as there are 'bright, shiny things' with no substance out there to lure me off my path and propel me off course.

    One thing about the end of September - there's the equinox, one of the changing points of the year.
    Dear HikerChick,

    Your dream reminded me of a dream I had last night, and an "experience" after it. I was going to share this in some other thread and to ask if anyone had some similar experiences, but after reading your post I will do it here.

    My apologies in advance to Bill if this is not the right thread for my post. Please move or remove it if it seems out of place.

    So I had a dream about this sexy girl, she was in a white shirt and white panties. I didn't see her face, but I somehow felt attracted to her and could tell she feels the same. So I approached her from behind and started hugging her. Then I started "playing" with her private parts, and while doing that, a thought came in to my mind: wait, this is not a girl, this is some kind of a demon. At that moment I notice that she is holding a smartphone in her hand and is looking at some video. I take a look at the screen and I see this: it's night time, there is a full moon, and there are four people/beings there. One had a hat, one had a hood on, one was bald, and one had long hair. They were all completely black, no face features of any kind (I felt shivers down my spine right now when remembering them). As soon as I saw them, a thought came to my mind that they are what people call Shadow People. At that moment, I felt such an intense fear, dread, like I have never felt in my life. I woke up momentarily, afraid as hell, and although I was awake and conscious, I couldn't move anything except my eyes. Then the weird thing happened, I felt a really strong energy and heat in my root chakra, more intense than anything I ever felt during my energy practices, and it seemed to me like the energy was being sucked out of me. While that was happening, I could also feel my body/spirit being pulled upwards, like only my head was on the bed, rest of me was floating in the air. I was laying on my stomach. It took me a lot of focus and effort to break free from it all. My mother walked in my room and told me she heard me moaning.

    Now, the reason why I decided to write this in this thread is because this all to me seems like more than a dream, like some sort of psychic attack or something similar. I have never "seen" shadow people in any way, shape or form. And I have never before in my entire life had any form of sleep paralysis (I thought it can only happen when sleeping on your back).

    I was wondering did something similar happened to someone else recently, is it somehow connected with what ever is gonna happen soon?

    My apologies to everyone for writing this in this thread..

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    A Word For September 2020 - Pastor Dana Coverstone 7:50

    Jul 29, 2020

    Prophetic Pastor Dana Coverstone | Ep 40 -45:36

    Jul 25, 2020




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    Most of the indictments coming have a connection to Paedophilia and Child Trafficking and they connect everything that is bad in this world. These will be the 2 watchwords come September. This will be "The Great Awakening". It will make the World Population very angry. The people will demand justice. These people will not be able to walk the streets. My guess is that "The October Surprise" will be that the armed forces across America and many other countries will be deployed and this will all be done under the guise of a "Mass lockdown" so as to gather up all these evil people while the general public remain safe in their homes. The only thing left for this so called "Cabal" will be the alien thing. It won't work as Trump is ready for this. Stock up your store cupboards, fridges and freezers and Put your feet up folks. Just "enjoy the show" it will be glorious!
    All will be well in a few short months.

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    It's still not the time to talk,but good things will happen if ALL will see the "signs".If not hope will not be lost and a better opportunity will follow.A simple suggestion:avoid any negativity,no matter what will happen...future is extremely brighter and indeed humans will be confused.
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    My three best guesses are ...

    1. There is a comet coming towards earth, small but like an atom bomb if it hit's earth. You can look it up on Nasa's website, planned to pass or maybe hit earth the day before USA election.
    The Near Earth Objects web page is here.
    Nothing's coming anywhere close in this period which is tracked and known about. (Decoding the numbers: 1 "LD" = 1 lunar distance, which is a LONG, safe way out.)

    But no guessing, please! Anyone reading this can guess a couple dozen things before breakfast. What may be more valuable are insights, downloads, premonitions, dreams, strong intuitions, and the like.
    I backtracked to were I got it from and found the name of the comet is 2018 VP1.
    As the gueast of the program (wearing sunglasses, which is always a bad omen) said, impact date = 2020 Nov 2th

    Here is the interview
    Go to fastforward to 45 mins in...


    WIKIPEDIA
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_VP1
    " It has a 0.41% chance (1 in 240) of impacting Earth on 2 November 2020."

    PS:Don't wear sunglasses unless sun is shining in your eyes.
    DS.
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    Quote Posted by XelNaga (here)
    Dear HikerChick,

    Your dream reminded me of a dream I had last night, and an "experience" after it. I was going to share this in some other thread and to ask if anyone had some similar experiences, but after reading your post I will do it here.
    Hi XelNaga, thanks for sharing. It does sound very much along the same lines as mine.

    The way I was taught on dream interpretation was to ask myself what it meant to me personally on a symbolic level. I saw mine as lust v. love, the symbolic meaning of which was being tempted to stray along the path of materialism and negative energies. I took from that the need to stay centred and calm with well-balanced energies. I've never personally dreamt of demons, but that's not to say that dark entities couldn't bleed through to our dreams. Those are questions that only you can answer about your dream!

    Stay well and may positive energies always surround you.
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    In response to the op, I opened the dreaded Big Blue Book randomly:

    Quote Forgive the past and let it go, for it is gone. You stand no longer on the ground that lies between worlds. You have gone on, and reached the world that lies at Heaven's gate. There is no hindrance to the Will of God, nor any need that you repeat again a journey that was over long ago. Look gently on your brother, and behold the world in which perception of your hate has been transformed into a world of love.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    From what I've heard, the extreme negative timelines for us to experience have dissipated, dissolved.

    The timeline of floods affecting most of the planet has gone. Wnlight alerted people to this particular timeline and it was averted.

    The very negative 2nd wave timeline with military interventions etc is dissolving, there maybe some loose ends but if many people concentrate on a positive reality, those loose ends may also dissolve.

    If there is a September /October event, it could result in a positive conclusion. I do feel a positive trajectory for the human race and Gaia despite all appearances. We may have some work to do to make it happen.

    There maybe surprises for humanity re the perception of reality. This may change in the future …...or maybe near future.

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    Quote Posted by XelNaga (here)
    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    I've read on forums so many prediction dates and deadlines for years that did not come to pass, so that I am sceptical of any calamity or apocalypse dates. I remember for example September 2015. Many predictions were the same as to global catastrophes or shifts. Nothing happened, at least nothing too noteworthy next to the usual batch of natural disasters, political upheavals, war or terrorism events around the world.

    And how about the 'surprise' being something 'positive'? Is this unthinkable? Surprise is a neutral word after all, so it might go either way.

    Anyway, intrigued by the thread, I decided to quest my dreams for an anwser. Years ago I was good at dream programming and got always some interesting answers. I will try the same take notes and report back here and see what came up.

    Dear Open Minded Dude,

    Would you mind sharing your dream programming technique? It seems like something I would like to try myself.

    Thanks in advance..
    Oh, it's no rocket science nor magick nor secret recipe.

    I write the question (to my HS or just so) on paper and put it next to or over my bed (head side).

    Then after 3 hours of normal sleep. I get up as normal for a usual bathroom break/pee, if you don't wake up naturally put on your alarm-clock timer.

    Then lie back down and speak some affirmations or the question or both, of your choice, best to do it aloud, then fall asleep again.

    Use a diary (in general) to increase your dream memory capability. If you wake up again take notes immediately because dreams tend to fade quickly in memory.

    So it's more of the usual stuff for lucid dreamers or APers etc.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    My three best guesses are ...

    1. There is a comet coming towards earth, small but like an atom bomb if it hit's earth. You can look it up on Nasa's website, planned to pass or maybe hit earth the day before USA election.
    The Near Earth Objects web page is here.
    Nothing's coming anywhere close in this period which is tracked and known about. (Decoding the numbers: 1 "LD" = 1 lunar distance, which is a LONG, safe way out.)

    But no guessing, please! Anyone reading this can guess a couple dozen things before breakfast. What may be more valuable are insights, downloads, premonitions, dreams, strong intuitions, and the like.
    I backtracked to were I got it from and found the name of the comet is 2018 VP1.
    As the gueast of the program (wearing sunglasses, which is always a bad omen) said, impact date = 2020 Nov 2th

    Here is the interview
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Qywjt7Mm8

    Go to fastforward to 45 mins in...

    WIKIPEDIA
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_VP1
    " It has a 0.41% chance (1 in 240) of impacting Earth on 2 November 2020."
    Yep. But it's very small (1.8m—3.9m in diameter)... just a slightly larger meteor than usual. It'd merely burn up in the atmosphere even if if DID hit it. There's absolutely zero risk. That's not the thing here.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by EFO (here)
    It's still not the time to talk,but good things will happen if ALL will see the "signs".If not hope will not be lost and a better opportunity will follow.A simple suggestion:avoid any negativity,no matter what will happen...future is extremely brighter and indeed humans will be confused.
    -------

    Just to add an anecdote to this overall sentiment ...

    I strongly do feel something big is incoming the last quarter of this year. I have been alluding to this in some of my posts since this spring.

    I lost my job of 18 years just before July; my lease is up on my apartment at the end of September and now I don't have a job needed to sign another lease (will I be homeless!?); My mother has been wanting to sell her place in BC (my childhood home) as she can no longer do the upkeep required, especially in winter, and there's a bit owing on a mortgage that she can no longer afford to pay.

    Sounds like everything is going really crappy for me doesn't it? How horrible, considering what might be coming later this year ... or is it?


    I always had long term plans to move back to the interior of BC, (especially in a SHTF scenario), but my job was holding me back from even considering it. My mother just recently secured a line of credit that covered what is left on the mortgage plus enough to convert the basement into a suite for me (cheap rent) - which she said she would do if I wanted to move back.

    The yard is just under an acre, but has a large area for a garden, a greenhouse, chickens (if desired) and it is lakefront on a lake that has fishing year round.

    If I relax into a broader more positive view, I can consider that moving there would be the best place I could be if something very big and disruptive were to hit, and everything has just lined up for me to be able to do this, even if the individual pieces alone all looked like a horrible situation -- in this "horrible" situation, a grand opportunity has been exposed, that would not be possible without all the little individual 'terrible' things that happened to me.

    I just finished vacationing there in BC, and a potential job may have already opened up for me, just from casually speaking with someone.

    Getting out of the city (Calgary for me), I feel is something important. The area where my mothers house is has tons of local farmers and artists.

    My main point is that while change can be hurtful and very disruptive there are always opportunities to be found if one has eyes to see them, and I very strongly can say this also applies to whatever might be coming later this year, which I am doubling up on as indicated in EFOs post. We must remain aware of this and keep ourselves relaxed, positive and loving, so as to not be blinded by fear and possibly anger. Fear is blinding - this cannot be stressed enough.


    I recall the words of a great man who loved long ago ... "Do not judge by appearances" - I think this applies to much more than a person's appearance (as is commonly accepted) and may be applicable, or rather even required to pay heed to in the coming months.

    Be the calm in the storm, look for opportunities in the tragedy.



    ... but as to address the OP ... I don't have a clear vision on what is coming, just that it will be disruptive, and we have an opportunity to alleviate that disruption and change the course of things for the better, by collectively seeing, or even seeking, the opportunities and trusting our inner guidance.
    Last edited by DeDukshyn; 16th August 2020 at 19:47.
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    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    My three best guesses are ...

    1. There is a comet coming towards earth, small but like an atom bomb if it hit's earth. You can look it up on Nasa's website, planned to pass or maybe hit earth the day before USA election.
    The Near Earth Objects web page is here.
    Nothing's coming anywhere close in this period which is tracked and known about. (Decoding the numbers: 1 "LD" = 1 lunar distance, which is a LONG, safe way out.)

    But no guessing, please! Anyone reading this can guess a couple dozen things before breakfast. What may be more valuable are insights, downloads, premonitions, dreams, strong intuitions, and the like.
    I backtracked to were I got it from and found the name of the comet is 2018 VP1.
    As the gueast of the program (wearing sunglasses, which is always a bad omen) said, impact date = 2020 Nov 2th

    Here is the interview
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Qywjt7Mm8

    Go to fastforward to 45 mins in...

    WIKIPEDIA
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_VP1
    " It has a 0.41% chance (1 in 240) of impacting Earth on 2 November 2020."
    Yep. But it's very small (1.8m—3.9m in diameter)... just a slightly larger meteor than usual. It'd merely burn up in the atmosphere even if if DID hit it. There's absolutely zero risk. That's not the thing here.
    Well I don't agree
    Whether it burns up or not is depending of whats it's made of. Nothing says it's made of ice, even if thats is likely possible.

    Even if it's just 2 meter in diameter size we have to count in the speed as well.
    We also have to take in to count where it hit's
    In the ocean, fine. but in a major city ?

    And a chance to hit 1 out of 243 maybe doesn't sound alarming but it is.
    As the host say in the program, it's far better chance than winning the lottery (parafrasing).



    Chelyabinsk meteor entered Earth's atmosphere over Russia on 15 February 2013.

    20 m (66 ft) near-Earth asteroid with a speed of 19.16 ± 0.15 kilometres per second (60,000[5]–69,000 km/h or 40,000[5]–42,900 mph)
    Equivalent to26 to 33 times as much energy as that released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima.
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor)

    So simple maths:
    "2018 VP1" a 2m asteroid = 1.3 to 1,65 times as much energy as that released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima.

    All I want to say here is that it's not to be counted out as a non-threat, even though if it's not likely to happen.
    Chance 1 out of 243 is still quite high.
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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    My intuition in brief words: the cusp of an alteration — expectation of resistance, division, hostilities — don't expect love & light so soon! — US election and associated circumstances will be a central feature — I don't feel Biden will be the guy, neither do I feel Trump will be in the WH! — I feel like Belarus is important, something is heating up there, Russia feels important! Covid to me feels like a catalyst, it's speeding up something, it's inducing some form of societal positioning or engaging required conditions for a prescribed purpose — fast moving chaos with a sense of dust resting.

    That's my lot!!

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    Looking into my crystal ball for the month of October 2020, I see -->

    About 75% of Americans are unaware that in December 2017 it was announced that the Pentagon has a program to study the UFO phenomena. Another 20% know something, but still have little idea of the significance of this, that their government has a deep interest in UFOs and has acted on it in a significant way.

    Trump was talking with his son on Father's Day indicating that he knows more on the UFO subject (I think they were talking about Roswell) which means he will have more to tell at some point, and isn't it an interesting coincidence that this just so happens in an election campaign year. And I think his opponents, Biden and Harris will have something to say on the issue too. Biden was V.P for 8 years and Harris is on the Senate Intelligence committee. They can both claim some background on this and they would not want to appear like they are out of the loop.

    There is a good segment of the U.S. population that is educated, but just doesn't see the UFO issue as important, or even as a serious issue. They think of themselves as highly rational, but in fact, if they took in some of the information that we Avalonians do, and applied reason to it, they would realize they are missing out on a very important issue. That would be quite an awakening for them.

    What if the UFO issue were discussed in the campaign by both candidates. This significant segment of the population would think together in unison: Wait a minute? This is a serious issue? UFOs are a real and important issue?" They would be awakened and have an insatiable desire for more information, and their would be be no holding them back as the tin foil hat stigma associated with would have vanished.

    Of course both Trump/Pence and Biden/Harris would find themselves in competition to get attention on a most important election issue and would both be pressured to out do each other with better answers. Factor in (1) Biden's dementia driven crazy speak, (2 )Trump's unpredictable potty-mouth, and (3) the ability of Americans to get hysterical en masse over just one Trump or Biden comment, and you have a very volatile situation. While the information about UFOs coming out of the government and out of the media has historically been very much controlled, things could snowball into a situation of total media anarchy.

    I remember eleven years ago, I thought UFOs were a ridiculous issue fixated on by uneducated fantasy prone individuals who got their news from the National Enquirer, and then, with in a few weeks, realized it was the most important topic ever, and I had an insatiable appetite for information on this topic. Imagine if that suddenly happened to millions of Americans all at the same time, and many of them were teachers, doctors, town council members, and other respected community leaders? It would be quite a tumultuous moment, when ever that does happen. It would be especially tumultuous if they issues came up against the huge backdrop of left/right issues, at a time when the USA has never been so politically polarized.

    I really hope that the USA faces up to the UFO issue, but not during an election year, but instead, at a time when there is less national division and divisiveness. I really hope that this is not our October surprise.

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