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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ree-gorges-dam

    Quote Over 100,000 Chinese Evacuated As Floods Continue Pressuring Three Gorges Dam

    ...

    Local officials are calling the latest flooding a "once in a century" event, with a typhoon making landfall Wednesday.

    China's largest river, the Yangtze, continues to rise to dangerous levels after another round of rainfall. More than 100,000 people on Tuesday, in the Sichuan province, were evacuated from their homes, reported Reuters.
    ...
    The southwest and central regions of the Yangtze river basin have been hit with unusually high levels of rainfall in the last couple of months due to flood season.

    The Ministry of Water Resources warned Monday that 38 tributaries along the upper part of the Yangtze were at critical levels.




    Some 63 million people have been affected by the floods, with economic damage totaling $26 billion.

    A red alert was issued late Tuesday by the water commission, who said some monitoring stations along the river were expected to rise above flood protection levels. The ministry also warned about the Three Gorges Dam, indicating water inflow levels continued to increase, with water inflows registering 74,000 cubic meters per second on Wednesday, the highest ever.

    As we've noted, there are serious concerns about the structural integrity of the dam following elevated water levels:

    < images, videos at link >
    and onawah posted this from dutchsinse yesterday

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1373254





    Quote I don't have any direct proof yet as to what could be causing this all.. but all the activity is pointing in a certain direction....
    have not had time to watch too much yet:

    middle of Indonesia got hit with 2 major quakes while he was live last night

    series of deep earthquakes have happened last several days - affecting volcanos/ash activity as well

    China - no activity last 1.5 days - he gets suspicious about continent going quiet

    earthquakes stopped at the border - some kind of thing going on where we are not getting seismic data


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    looks like system outage if you know what I mean

    Why hiding seismic data - I don't know
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    Mod note from Bill:

    I've just moved 8 "two earths" posts over to this thread, where they may be much more at home:
    To be sure, this has nothing to do with any real-world-impact 2020 pre-US-election "surprise". If you feel you need to, please continue to discuss any "two earths" issues there!


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    Endgame for America: Dollar literally a BOMB that could go off any day, warns Peter Schiff

    19 Aug, 2020 11:05
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    The scale of money printing in the United States is unprecedented, says veteran stockbroker Peter Schiff. The deficits are “through the roof and the government is spending more money than ever before.”

    Schiff, who is CEO of Euro Pacific Capital, told the MoneyShow that more than 60 cents out of every dollar the government is spending is being printed. So, the Federal Reserve is printing more money for the government to spend than the US government is collecting in taxes.
    “The myth is that the US economy was strong before Covid. It wasn’t strong at all; it was the weakest it has ever been. It was the biggest bubble that has ever existed. That’s why the economy imploded so quickly as a result of Covid-19 lockdowns. The air started coming out in the fourth quarter of 2018… And the dollar is being wiped out.”
    Schiff points out that “everything that the US government did in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis was a mistake.” All of its monetary policy was wrong, all of its fiscal policy was wrong.
    “As a consequence, we never actually recovered from the crisis, which was caused by the Fed and the government. We simply made all the problems that caused that crisis worse.”
    America is about to experience inflation on an unprecedented scale, he says. The cost of living is going to skyrocket and it’s going to happen very quickly.
    “It’s going to hit people like a ton of bricks. And they are not going to see this coming.”
    More people will be blindsided by the dollar crisis than by the financial crisis, and the dollar crisis is much worse, Schiff warns.
    “Because when we had a financial crisis, the Fed was able to print dollars to bail everybody out. When you have a dollar crisis that doesn’t matter anymore. You can’t print dollars because nobody wants them.”
    He explains that will be a sovereign debt crisis, which means US Treasuries are going to go bad, as well as all debts denominated in US dollars.
    The dollar “is going to fall through the floor and inflation is going to ravish the United States,” Schiff predicts, adding:

    “What’s about to happen is that the world is going to go off the dollar standard and go back to the gold standard. That is where we are headed.”
    The current system doesn’t work, you can’t back your currency with an unbacked currency, he says.
    “The entire American economy is built on the foundation of the dollar being the world’s reserve currency. That is the secret source that makes this economy work. Once the dollar is just another currency, then it’s all over, it’s the end of the game for America.”
    According to the economist, “The dollar could collapse any day, it is like literally a bomb. The key is to get money out of US dollars because it’s the dollar that is going to be collapsing.”

    He says it’s reasonable to buy gold to ease the financial pain because “Gold and silver stocks are a bargain.”


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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    If we talked about it, it won't be a surprise

    Anyway, I heard Newt saying the Biden-Harris ticket will collapse. I am thinking Joe will lose his mind and be withdrawn. But then what!?

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    Things have been so crazy for the last few years that it is hard to believe that there is much that could surprise the world. A couple of thoughts on what the Oct surprise may be.

    1. Something happens to Trump
    2. Trump Bows out of the race and says it is not worth the effort (causing alarm and suspicion)
    3. Stock market crash
    4. Biden steps down for health reasons
    5. Barr indicts Comey and a host of high-level FBI/CIA/NSA officials
    6. A supreme court vacancy arises and it creates division and anger as we have never seen
    7. Trump pulls all military out of the middle east at the same time Iran is escalating tensions.

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    I get myself and my house in order, I stockpile food, vitamins, and a water filter. That should do where I live to keep going for at least a month even when normal supply chains are disrupted. I also have some more survival items here, first aid stuff etc. I anticipate some sort of major disruption, and my hunch is that it'll be a mix of a lot of things—you all know what's in the cards with the lockdown and the bigger picture.

    My intention is to take care of myself, to anchor the energy of love, and to make a positive difference in my immediate environment, mainly in the sense of keeping peace and resolving conflicts, whether it's through meditation, communication, or downright force.

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    A Hammer Blow for who? I still feel the same way now, as I did when I first read the post. This could be a positive future event. I do believe disclosure in all its forms is closer than ever. Just 30% of the truth would paralyse society.

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    The biggest surprise would be if nothing happened that is not happening already.
    I sincerely hope that there is an event or two that brings this whole thing back to some sense of normality.
    Possibly Trump has an ace or two up his sleeve -- he certainly hints at this being the case.
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    Quote Posted by christian (here)
    I get myself and my house in order, I stockpile food, vitamins, and a water filter. That should do where I live to keep going for at least a month even when normal supply chains are disrupted. I also have some more survival items here, first aid stuff etc. I anticipate some sort of major disruption, and my hunch is that it'll be a mix of a lot of things—you all know what's in the cards with the lockdown and the bigger picture.
    Hey Christian, I remember your thread about two timelines until 2100, actually I just noticed that you made that thread exactly one year ago today. I wonder in which timeline do you think we are now?

    I'm never fully decided about the future as it isn't set in stone anyways, but I have my ideas and intuition which have served me more than well. If I look things from the astrological viewpoint, then it would seem that the years 2025-2050 will bring a lot of massive and inspiring advancements and unfoldments which will aid humanity immensely. However, I'm still a bit wary and concerned about some disruptions which may be natural or man-made.

    I'd say that it will be almost nigh impossible that humanity will not encounter some severe cataclysms which will put us into a serious soul-searching collectively even if we will have a lot positive assistance and developments. That just seems to be the nature of life and our karma. Am I fearful about the future of humanity? No. Concerned? Yes. Curious and excited? Absolutely. It's an interesting game and I will be looking forward to see how it will unfold and in some way I will play my part like all of us will one way or another.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    I would point out that Shadowman in his book points to Divine intervention.
    So thats something else to consider.
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Quote Posted by christian (here)
    I get myself and my house in order, I stockpile food, vitamins, and a water filter. That should do where I live to keep going for at least a month even when normal supply chains are disrupted. I also have some more survival items here, first aid stuff etc. I anticipate some sort of major disruption, and my hunch is that it'll be a mix of a lot of things—you all know what's in the cards with the lockdown and the bigger picture.
    Hey Christian, I remember your thread about two timelines until 2100, actually I just noticed that you made that thread exactly one year ago today. I wonder in which timeline do you think we are now?
    I feel we're right at the crossroads, right now and probably this decade. This is our great war. It's mental, spiritual, emotional, physical. It has always been on, of course, but I feel this time right now is where we determine which path we'll be on over the next decades or longer. Both options are still possible, and like you, I'm playing my part. Together with team humanity, I want to get on the path of peace, love, harmony, awareness, and abundance. What it's gonna be in the end, nobody can tell right now. But I know what I'm standing for and what I'm fighting for. And I'm all in, this is the time where utmost authenticity and commitment are auspicious. Reality right now seems very pliable, malleable to me, this is why it's so important right now that team humanity uses this opportunity to anchor, create, and manifest love. Right now is the time where fundamental change is happening, one way or another.

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    Yesterday at the time of first writing, the following was still on this thread.
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The earth separates etc
    Meaningless and irrational. It doesn't stand up to 30 seconds of logic or rational thinking.

    Best to discuss this on this existing thread:

    Dolores Cannon 5D Earth is Here!
    For reasons of forum discipline, my response to this is on the linked thread and is now here. However, the subject, I suggest, is both off-topic with regard to a time-sensitive October surprise, and very much on-topic. Let me explain the topicality here.

    In my post, I start with how according to mainstream science, multiple small choices are thought to create new universes where both or all options are explored individually. Developing this idea leads to the thought that habitually making non-choices in such small matters is the mechanism building up to the need to make big collective choices further down the line. When this point is reached, and a big choice is finally made, then people begin to make individual choices, which is how action is taken by many individuals and groups to implement that big choice. The October surprise would simply be one of many such smaller deliberate events.

    Someone suggested it wouldn’t be a surprise if our discussion came close to finding out what is actually in store. Breaking down a conspiracy will inevitably involve a positive conspiracy of sorts involving people with a need to know and powers to act – secrecy put to good purpose. None of us here have either of those things, or if they do, they will not be telling. To that extent, this is the pointless thread. The October surprise will be one of many things, possibly not very significant in itself, possibly even accidental, and in any case highly unpredictable. Surprise being weaponizable. As a precedent, I would point to the fall of the Berlin Wall. See this post and this post.

    Since writing my earlier post, then, off-topickers have been shifted to this other Dolores Cannon thread. So it’s not just planets that might split in two Threads too are families of individuals that split and lead lives of their own. But the links remain strong.
    Quote Posted by Calz (here)
    Ooops wrong thread ... sorry ...
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    Found this on Intelihub!

    The National Aeronautics Space Administration and FEMA in 2017 devised and initiated a supposed fictitious scenario in which the two agencies would drill down on an asteroid that’s set to impact the Earth in or just off the coast of California on September 20, 2020, but is this so-called “exercise” really just a drill?

    NASA claims “the simulation was designed to strengthen the collaboration between the two agencies, which have Administration direction to lead the U.S. response” but could the drill actually go live like so many other drills have in the past? (i.e. the July 7, 2007, London bombing, the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, and others)

    “It’s not a matter of if–but when–we will deal with such a situation,” Associate Administrator for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate Thomas Zurbuchen said. “But unlike any other time in our history, we now have the ability to respond to an impact threat through continued observations, predictions, response planning and mitigation.”

    The exercise was designed to create “a forum for the planetary science community to show how it would collect, analyze and share data about a hypothetical asteroid predicted to impact Earth. Emergency managers discussed how that data would be used to consider some of the unique challenges an asteroid impact would present-for preparedness, response and public warning,” according to NASA.

    Representatives from NASA, FEMA, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the Department of Energy’s National Laboratories, the U.S. Air Force, and the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services attended the initial meeting and will be participating throughout the 4 year long excersise which is set to come to a head on Sept 20, 2020.

    https://www.intellihub.com/nasa-and-...uments-reveal/

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Found this on Intelihub!

    The National Aeronautics Space Administration and FEMA in 2017 devised and initiated a supposed fictitious scenario in which the two agencies would drill down on an asteroid that’s set to impact the Earth in or just off the coast of California on September 20, 2020, but is this so-called “exercise” really just a drill?

    NASA claims “the simulation was designed to strengthen the collaboration between the two agencies, which have Administration direction to lead the U.S. response” but could the drill actually go live like so many other drills have in the past? (i.e. the July 7, 2007, London bombing, the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, and others)

    “It’s not a matter of if–but when–we will deal with such a situation,” Associate Administrator for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate Thomas Zurbuchen said. “But unlike any other time in our history, we now have the ability to respond to an impact threat through continued observations, predictions, response planning and mitigation.”

    The exercise was designed to create “a forum for the planetary science community to show how it would collect, analyze and share data about a hypothetical asteroid predicted to impact Earth. Emergency managers discussed how that data would be used to consider some of the unique challenges an asteroid impact would present-for preparedness, response and public warning,” according to NASA.

    Representatives from NASA, FEMA, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the Department of Energy’s National Laboratories, the U.S. Air Force, and the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services attended the initial meeting and will be participating throughout the 4 year long excersise which is set to come to a head on Sept 20, 2020.

    https://www.intellihub.com/nasa-and-...uments-reveal/

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    Thanks, and that's very interesting. Note that a closer size match is actually the 18 Sept close approach (not the 20 Sept one), and that's presented in this table as coming closer to the Earth, though still a minimum of 2.79 LD (lunar distances) — which is a heck of a long, safe way out.

    (These "close approaches", though most of them really aren't "close" at all in any threatening sense, happen literally every few days. In almost all cases, there's nothing exceptional about them.)

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    So I did some deep meditation on this topic the other day, and I asked myself if this coming event was from what we call "space" - yes, was the immediate answer.

    I then asked if it was "life" -- again yes was the immediate answer.

    I asked other related questions, about false flag alien attack, crashed alien ship, disclosure, visitation, real alien invasion, etc, and everything came up as no. Nothing else that I asked in relation came up as yes, which to me indicated that my two yes answers were nonsense, so I dropped the whole thing.

    Then today I was pondering this again, and the concept of a massive solar storm striking the earth (greatly dwarfing the Carrington event), became vivid in my mind. I personally have for some time seen the Sun as a conscious being of awareness of sorts (in fact I had an interesting mystical event a few years ago where I was pulled from my body and brought to the sun to "meet" it - very odd experience, which I have put down in more detail on a few threads here). This would explain the "life" or "living" aspect in the answers during my deep meditation.

    In my previous post on this thread I also indicated that we have an opportunity to take advantage of this situation (says my strong intuition on the subject), and perhaps that may relate to a certain type of manifestation that can take advantage of heightened solar energy.

    This overall idea is probably not in line with the "practical" expectations and considerations for this thread, but perhaps I will try to find the time and articulation to present all this as a whole on another, or a new thread. If anyone has any thoughts on this as well, please send me a PM. I will be exploring this idea a bit further, as it seems to be making some sense to me at this point in time.
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    ^ interesting timing (for me) as I was just searching online for a faraday bag for my laptop and backup disk drives.

    I recall past research indicating a metal garbage can and a microwave with the cord cut off make good options in this area - probably Avalon has some tips as well I just considered.
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    DeDukshyn, I really believe the Sun is a conscious entity, also, as is the Earth herself. Several channels (which I know is a controversial area) have long talked about a worldwide event that will involve a flash that all will be aware of, leading to...I don’t know what, but presumably something very promising. Hey, I’m still looking for good hat recipes for Bill when the time comes!! 😂😂😂 Diane

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    I have begun to think that what is coming will have little to do with politics and more to do with environment. I also tend to believe that our planning and storing food and supplies will be for naught. Some change or shift is definitely coming, I feel it but I cannot put my finger on what exactly it is. But I suspect the things we believe or think we believe and the things we think are important will change.

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    Default Re: What's the 2020 October Surprise?

    I suspect some major power plays for control of the planet.

    I just want to feel good. Either here or somewhere else.
    We all may have great stories to tell later on.
    Maybe the stories will compete with Homer's Odyssey as Ulysses sailed from Troy to home.

    I sometimes think of Ulysses's dog, united for a short time after Ulysses's return. And it brings tears.
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