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    Concerns over Boris Johnson's 'moonshot' coronavirus testing plans

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    Peter Hitchens: 'Coronavirus has been one of the greatest ever failures of journalism'

    Columnist Peter Hitchens has strongly criticised the British media's coverage of the coronavirus pandemic as "absolutely disgraceful" and "one of the greatest failures of journalism" in his life.

    Speaking with Mike Graham, he also claimed that current face mask rules were "not about health, it's is about fear and power".



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    WestJet cancels flight because of mask dispute with child

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54096061

    A Canadian flight was cancelled and police were called because a child was not wearing a mask
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    Safwan Choudhry says WestJet wanted his 19-month-old to wear a mask, but the baby girl would not stop crying.

    The airline says the issue was not with the infant, who is below the age required to wear a mask, but with Mr Choudhry's three-year-old.

    Tuesday morning's Flight 652 from Calgary to Toronto was stopped, and all passengers were ordered to disembark.

    "It's unlike anything I have ever witnessed, let alone experienced," Mr Choudhry told the BBC.

    Mr Choudhry told the BBC his oldest daughter, who is three, was eating a snack before take-off when flight attendants approached them asking that both their children wear a mask. He said he and his wife were masked.

    He said he asked if his daughter could finish her snack, but that they said they had a "zero tolerance policy" and would not close the plane door without her wearing a mask. Mr Choudhry said he agreed to put one on immediately.

    "Most children you have to kind of ease them into it, which is a code word for let me get the iPad out," he told the BBC.

    He says the three-year-old did put on a mask, after some fussing.

    "But my younger one had a very difficult time, she was basically hysterical."

    Mr Choudhry says she was so upset she vomited.

    He says WestJet was aggressive, and told them that because his youngest daughter was not wearing a mask, and was too upset to wear a mask, the whole family would have to leave.

    He says they told them that if they did not leave, they could be arrested, charged and receive prison time.

    Mr Choudhry says he and his wife were respectful. They ultimately agreed to leave.

    He later learned that according to Canadian transportation policy, only children over two are required to wear a mask, and thus his 19-month-old did not have to put one on.
    What does WestJet say?

    WestJet disputes that the three-year-old put a mask on.

    The airline said in a statement: "Due to non-compliance of the parents to place a mask on their older child who is over the age of two, our crew informed the adults of the regulations we are required to follow.

    "Our crew requested the presence of the authorities after the guests refused to comply with Transport Canada's interim order and subsequently refused to deplane the aircraft."

    A video taken with Mr Choudhry's phone shows his older daughter wearing a mask on the plane, after police arrived on board.

    He says while some passengers were very irritated with his family, "overwhelmingly" people on the plane supported them. Many spoke up in defence of the family, as their youngest cried, he says.

    That was when flight staff called police, he says. They got off the plane, and the flight was eventually cancelled and rebooked for the next day.

    "Due to the rapid escalation of the situation on board, our crew felt uncomfortable to operate and the flight was subsequently cancelled," WestJet said.

    In a video, a police officer explains to them that while the mask issue with the eldest was "resolved", "the behaviour of the other passengers left the rest of the crew feeling unsafe".

    Some passengers can be heard in video of the incident heckling the police and air crew.

    The officer later confirms that when he arrived, the oldest child was wearing a mask.

    Police did not file any charges.


    A fellow passenger, Marian Nur, also recorded some of the interactions with flight staff, because she was worried the family was being targeted because of their race and religion - Mr Choudhry's wife wears a hijab.

    "I was so shocked, the parents never raised their voices, they never got angry with the attendants, they were just trying to reason with them," she told CBC.

    Mr Choudhry says he and his family are still in Calgary, and have not been offered another flight to Toronto. He says he hopes this does not happen to anyone else.

    "So many people were put through so much grief because of a lack-of-understanding on part of the policy," he says.
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    Boris Johnson admits his new 'Covid Marshals' WON'T be able to arrest people or issue fines and can be volunteers - as 'baffled' police say they have 'no idea' what their role is

    Boris Johnson's new army of Covid secure marshals are out in force today
    Those in the new roles will be recruited by councils to step up enforcement
    There is confusion on how wide their remit will be and what powers they'll have
    Rank-and-file officers have been left 'absolutely baffled' by the announcement

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...29333733243159

    More on the link --you can see where this is going I suspect.
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    Sweden hits lowest rate of COVID-19 infections since pandemic began

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...084931795.html
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    Ignoring the Swedish lesson makes a tougher Covid crackdown inevitable
    A lot on the Newspaper article

    https://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.../article/80829
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    What an idea. It's got my vote.

    Shut it down, clean it it out, then restart.

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    'Rule of six': Tory MPs criticise new rules in England

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54115064

    Some Tory MPs have criticised England's latest coronavirus rules that legally ban gatherings of more than six people.

    Ex-minister Steve Baker said the action amounted to "arbitrary powers without scrutiny" and MP Desmond Swayne said it was "outrageous" not to have a Parliamentary debate.

    BBC Newsnight understands some MPs want the rules to be reviewed more often.

    The health secretary says the new rules in England will not be kept in place "any longer than we have to".

    It comes as coronavirus infections have increased in recent weeks in the UK, according to estimates from Office for National Statistics.

    The government's latest R number - which measures the virus' ability to spread - is between 1 and 1.2 which means the epidemic is growing.

    And households in Birmingham will be banned from mixing under measures announced on Friday. The city has the second highest rate of Covid-19 infection in England, behind Bolton.

    Meanwhile, a Covid-19 contact-tracing app will be launched across England and Wales on 24 September, the government has announced.

    What are the new rules?
    'We've got four kids so can't see anyone else'
    Who are the Covid marshals and what will they do?
    What will happen if children catch coronavirus?

    From Monday, the law change in England will ban more than six people meeting anywhere socially indoors or outdoors - dubbed the "rule of six".

    It will not apply to schools, workplaces or Covid-secure weddings, funerals and organised team sports.

    The rule will be enforced through a Ł100 fine if people fail to comply, doubling on each offence up to a maximum of Ł3,200.

    The measures include the introduction of "Covid-secure marshals", to help ensure social distancing in town and city centres.

    Scotland and Wales will also cut the number of people to allowed to meet up to six from Monday, amid concern over a sustained rise in cases.

    But in Scotland children under the age of 12 will not count towards the total, and in Wales the rule will not apply to children under 11 and up to 30 can still meet outside.
    'Sour mood'

    But BBC Newsnight's political editor Nick Watt said there was a "sour mood" on the Tory benches, adding: "Tory MPs do accept the government does need to introduce some measures to control the virus, but they want to clip the government's wings and that means demanding a greater role for Parliament."

    He said senior Conservative backbenchers are lobbying Commons Speaker Lindsay Hoyle - who accused the government this week of bypassing Parliament - to make sure that legislation is being reviewed every month, not every six months.
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    Coronavirus: The 'reasonable worst case scenario' this winter - BBC Newsnight




    A leaked government report suggests a "reasonable worst case scenario" of 85,000 deaths across the UK this winter due to Covid-19. Subscribe to our channel here: https://goo.gl/31Q53F



    The document, seen exclusively by BBC Newsnight, suggests that while further restrictions could be re-introduced, schools would likely remain open.

    But it stresses the report "is a scenario, not a prediction” and the data are subject to “significant uncertainty”.

    However some are critical of the modelling and say some of it is already out of date.
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    Tucker/Greenwald reporting fair on Assange
    Tucker investigates why 'DOJ is pursuing Julian Assange aggressively'
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    "Julian Assange's lawyer says the Wikileaks founder could face 175 years in prison if he's extradited to the U.S., where he faces espionage charges; Glenn Greenwald, founder of The Intercept, joins Tucker Carlson on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight."

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    Launch of SpectatorTV - Andrew Neil on The Week in 60 Minutes | The Spectator

    This is good because Andrew Neil is a mainstream reporter --not bought and paid for.
    While this is UK based, this first edition covers the virus in some depth and this applies in USA and worldwide.



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    Conflicting reports regarding the the election from FOX news

    Tucker Carlson SLAMS His Own FOX Network after they Hit ROCK Bottom with their Election Coverage
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    "Cassandra Fairbanks from The Gateway Pundit reports, Tucker Carlson took aim at Neil Cavuto and Fox News with a not-so-subtle dig on his Monday evening show on the network. Cavuto, and Fox News, made waves earlier in the day by cutting away from a press conference held by White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany.

    See the report here:
    https://youtu.be/Ef7IU6M59bM "



    Catherine Austin Fitts and Dark Journalist had high praise for Tucker Carlson in their latest discussion:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sW3TNGBukw&t=3243s
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    Trump Plan To 'WRECK' Fox News With Media Venture After Presidency
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    Media WAKES UP To Find INSANE Corruption Scandal At Heart Of Biden Team
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    "Saagar Enjeti explains news coverage by the mainstream media and why he believes they have "forgotten" to cover corruption on the Democratic side of the aisle."
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    Media WAKES UP To Find INSANE Corruption Scandal At Heart Of Biden Team
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    "Saagar Enjeti explains news coverage by the mainstream media and why he believes they have "forgotten" to cover corruption on the Democratic side of the aisle."
    Krystal and Saager are IMO two of the very rare, no nonsense, non hacky, tell it like it is political commentators in the United States today. They ruthlessly examine both sides of this vast partisan divide, which tend to insulate themselves in their comfy and self congratulatory echo chambers.

    Absolutely no one is off limits for their due critique as persons in positions of great power.

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    However, they haven't been covering election fraud much, or the MSM's attempt to usurp the power to declare who is POTUS.
    And then there's this basically socialist leaning, VERY pro-vaccine, pro-Big Government episode:

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    Media WAKES UP To Find INSANE Corruption Scandal At Heart Of Biden Team
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    "Saagar Enjeti explains news coverage by the mainstream media and why he believes they have "forgotten" to cover corruption on the Democratic side of the aisle."1Wp_kl7U9NM
    Krystal and Saager are IMO two of the very rare, no nonsense, non hacky, tell it like it is political commentators in the United States today. They ruthlessly examine both sides of this vast partisan divide, which tend to insulate themselves in their comfy and self congratulatory echo chambers.

    Absolutely no one is off limits for their due critique as persons in positions of great power.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    However, they haven't been covering election fraud much, or the MSM's attempt to usurp the power to declare who is POTUS.
    And then there's this basically socialist leaning, VERY pro-vaccine, pro-Big Government episode:

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    "Saagar Enjeti explains news coverage by the mainstream media and why he believes they have "forgotten" to cover corruption on the Democratic side of the aisle."1Wp_kl7U9NM
    Krystal and Saager are IMO two of the very rare, no nonsense, non hacky, tell it like it is political commentators in the United States today. They ruthlessly examine both sides of this vast partisan divide, which tend to insulate themselves in their comfy and self congratulatory echo chambers.

    Absolutely no one is off limits for their due critique as persons in positions of great power.
    Well so far as the election fraud goes, they're covering everything tangible like the court cases for example. They simply don't see a lot of beef on that burger, same as me.

    Now so far as your big government example, I certainly don't agree with either of them all the time, hell, I don't even agree with myself all the time, but one thing I find very refreshing about both of them is they're not playing games we usually see with your average talking heads. No hidden agendas, no confines (that I'm aware of) of what they can, and can't talk about.

    They call 'em like they see 'em, each from their own political and worldview perspective. Whether I happen to agree or not, they're also smart, well thought out, they do their homework, they have interesting guests on, and that's all I can ask for.

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    They are a step up from a lot of the talking heads, but anyone who is pro-vaccine hasn't really done their homework, imho.
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