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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    This would explain a lot.

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/codenam...emake-society/
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    The most significant evidence – decidedly refuting the need for 60% infection rate – is pre-immunity. For example, COVID-19 has several relatives (other coronaviruses) to which the population had been exposed, and such prior exposure can provide immunity to a significant segment of the population.
    Yes, this is important, and explains why some kind of "herd immunity" (at about 20% of the population, far lower than anyone had anticipated) may already be being reached in a range of diverse countries, irrespective of their lockdown strategy.


    The problem with this virus is the way it often gives rise to contradictory theories: natural vs bioweapon, deliberate vs accidental release, hugely dangerous vs as mild as flu etc. Not to mention increased vulnerability after an earlier vaccination, i.e. a vaccine doing more harm than good, even if it works and is innocuous. All this makes it extremely hard for the ordinary citizen to see what is going on. What we need to do is to build up a narrative around the few available established facts. These facts, one of which is the contents of a vaccine, are our ingredients from which to back-engineer a possible recipe.

    This unexpected herd immunity/pre-immunity thing could shed some light. Many more people are ‘naturally’ immune to the virus than has been allowed. This is the exact opposite of the contention of Dr Suzanne Humphries in post #19 above to the effect that vaccination actually predisposes the receiver to other viruses later on. In other words, nature is much kinder to us than our fellow men.


    Pre-immunity would explain why the forecasts of Neil Ferguson over decades have been consistently wrong by orders of magnitude, and how the BBC programme presenting a simulated pandemic was also way over the top. See this post.

    The one established fact is that, however horrific the true actual numbers are, Covid deaths are way down on the best scientific forecasts of how a pandemic should play out. This leads to one immediate conclusion, namely that if this virus came from a bioweapons lab, then it had to be accidental, as the remote viewers say it was.
    It had to be accidental because it was premature: any deliberate release designed to kill millions based on the science would only have taken place once this ‘problem’ had been sorted out. The result in this case makes for more ambiguity, since you have a so-called bioweapon killing people as it were BY MISTAKE, and the perpetrators back-pedalling because they are no longer in control. They don’t mind the deaths, only it wasn’t supposed to happen this way. And of course all the back-pedalling only adds to the confusion.

    One example of this is the kind of double bluff that we are seeing from politicians. Since the unexpected herd immunity leads to the conclusion that Covid 19 is much more innocuous than was first thought, then the UK government’s advice that it is safe to send children back to school is good advice (especially when that is in any case a highly desirable outcome for everyone). However, Boris Johnson and his cronies have established their utter uselessness to such a degree by now that the kneejerk reaction on the part of responsible parents is understandably to reach for their masks and keep their kids at home. They are motivated and justified when they hear that the virus can and does occasionally do catastrophic damage to certain individuals, who seem to recover and then in extreme cases suddenly drop dead of heart failure. But how often does that happen? My guess is, not very often, but these are the cases one gets to hear about.

    How then do you have a virus that is innocuous enough to warrant a return to business as usual and yet deadly enough to kill like this? If it escaped from a bioweapons lab, then it was a half-baked bioweapon, combining this deadly feature with this other life-saving immunity. Positive and negative features: which is which depends on your viewpoint, warfare or healthcare.

    The entire military aspect of biological warfare thrives on this kind of ambiguity. With a computer virus, one always wonders where it comes from? Cui bono, who benefits? The obvious answer being… the makers of antivirus packages. In the military, biological warfare has been outlawed by most nations since 1972, so the only legitimate way of getting involved is to call it biodefence and research into vaccines. You may need to invent an enemy with weapons of mass destruction... Such an invention is another established fact - a huge one: that is what the second Gulf War was all about, as Colin Powell explained to the UN.


    What do these vaccines treat? You cannot protect against an unknown enemy, still less an imaginary one. You need to target a specific virus; if none exists, then you would have to invent one.
    Quote The United States Department of Defense (or "DoD") has focused since at least 1998 on the development and application of vaccine-based biodefenses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodefense
    The inference to be drawn here is that vaccine research has to some large degree military, i.e. non-civilian applications. This might possibly explain why, when we were told that it might take two years to find a vaccine, hundreds were found in a matter of months. You can go back to this post. Sure, people work faster in an emergency, but we’ve always known that. What we forget is that the military work faster than civil society does. If the virus came out of a lab, then the vaccine research was likely already underway before that.

    If all the above were true, namely that an undeclared war is passing for a peacetime pandemic (the Orwellian slogan War is Peace applies), no wonder people don’t know what to think anymore. The history of warfare, particularly in the last century, has shown a marked trend towards civilians, first as ‘collateral damage’, later as a strategic target. The atom bomb of course achieved this better than anything before, but it dates back even earlier, as Daniel Ellsberg points out in The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner,
    Quote It was not that city-bombing began on that date, as we saw in Shanghai, Guernica, and elsewhere. But deliberate bombing of urban populations as the principal way of fighting a war by a major industrial power can be said to have started on February 14, 1942, with a specific British directive I first encountered in Sallagar’s manuscript, which I read in my office at RAND in 1959.
    The document was an Air Staff directive later confirmed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the civilian Defense Committee:
    TO THE BOMBER COMMAND: The primary object of your operations should now be focused on the morale of the enemy’s civil population, and in particular of the industrial workers. With this aim in view, a list of selected area targets … is attached. The primary targets listed were four important cities in the Ruhr-Rhineland area. It was the start of the practice of naming cities as targets: not factories, not specific blocks, but cities. (Ellsberg, Daniel. The Doomsday Machine (pp. 243-244). Bloomsbury Publishing. Édition du Kindle)
    Ellsberg describes from personal experience the effect on children of war entering the classroom:
    Quote In grade school after Pearl Harbor, we had air raid drills. One day my teacher handed out a model of a short, slim silver-colored incendiary bomb, which was used to spread fires. We were told it was a magnesium bomb, whose blaze couldn’t be extinguished by water. You had to cover it with sand to keep oxygen from feeding the flames. In every room in our school there was a large bucket filled with sand for this purpose. I take it that this was a way of making us identify with the war effort, the likelihood of German or Japanese bombers penetrating as far as Detroit being quite small in retrospect. But the notion of the magnesium bomb made a strong impression on me. It was uncanny to think of humans designing and dropping on other humans a flaming substance that couldn’t easily be extinguished, a particle of which, we were told, would burn through flesh to the bone and wouldn’t stop burning even then. It was hard for me to understand people who were willing to burn children like that. (Ellsberg, Daniel. The Doomsday Machine (p. 24). Bloomsbury Publishing. Édition du Kindle.).
    The problem with nuclear weapons has always been an instant lethal response in kind: mutual assured destruction (MAD). Ellsberg goes on to relate how, with both sides as potential aggressors/defenders, good men in charge were on their own not enough to save us from disaster. See this post. Modern biological warfare could be an attempt to overcome this problem inasmuch as rapidly developed vaccines offer sufficient defence to make attack a viable proposition. But what this does is to induce more cognitive dissonance. First, it conflates defensive and aggressive warfare. This is what makes war an ineffective tool in the first place: you cannot fight off an aggressor without resorting to his own objectionably aggressive tactic. Most notably vaccination is viewed as a weapon – primarily defensive, but potentially with this offensive purpose. It is more than unfortunate that vaccines not only upset one’s natural immunity, they also cause other serious illnesses as well.

    We come to the bottom line, namely the conclusion that overcomes the cognitive dissonance, seen as part of the problem, not part of the explanation. The bottom line then seems to be that every civilian area is taken over by belligerent military concerns. This takes two forms: good people being deceived in the fields of e.g. education (masks and distancing instead of sand buckets), healthcare (administering inappropriate treatment and later dodgy vaccines); and accessories in politics (bad advice, followed by good advice taken as bad), finance, and of course pseudo-humanitarianism.

    All the above invites contradiction. That is in one sense what I would like to hear. Just take the same few hard facts and come up with an alternative explanation. On the other hand, the perception that nature is much kinder to us than our fellow men is one that is borne out in so many other areas above and beyond, before and after this covid crisis, and it is something we would want to hold onto. If the unpalatable conclusion simply demonstrates this perception on an unprecedented scale, then it is something to be accepted and acted upon. The message is the simple one so many people have been hammering out: we need to be kinder to each other.
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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Thank you Chris for this very important post. Do you know what goes into the 'flu vaccine' I had a bad bout of 'Some thing' beyond and above the normal bugs I have experienced all my life, this one knocked me to my knees So I panicked and for the first time asked to have the 'flu vaccine' What have I now let into my body ?
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    “There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does more harm than good.”

    Dr. J. Anthony Morris, former Chief Vaccine Control Officer, U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

    --o-O-o--

    "The greatest threat of childhood disease lies in the dangerous and ineffectual efforts made to prevent them through mass immunization."
    Dr. R. Mendelsohn, Author and Professor of Pediatrics (How To Raise A Healthy Child In Spite Of Your Doctor).

    --o-O-o--

    "In our opinion, there is now sufficient evidence of immune malfunction following current vaccination programs to anticipate growing public demands for research investigation into alternative methods of prevention of infectious disease."

    Dr.’s H. Buttram and J. Hoffman (Vaccinations and Immune Malfunctions).

    --o-O-o--

    "All vaccination has the effect of directing the three values of the blood into or toward the zone characteristics of cancer and leukemia... Vaccines do predispose to cancer and leukemia."

    Professor L.C. Vincent, Founder of Bioelectronics.

    --o-O-o--

    "Every vaccine carries certain hazards and can produce inward reactions in some people... in general; there are more vaccine complications than is generally appreciated."

    Professor George Dick, London University.

    --o-O-o--

    "In addition to the many obvious cases of mortality from these practices, there are also long-term hazards which are almost impossible to estimate accurately... the inherent danger of all vaccine procedures should be a deterrent to their unnecessary or unjustifiable use."

    Sir Graham Wilson (The Hazards of Immunization).

    --o-O-o--

    "Laying aside the very real possibility that the various vaccines are contaminated with animal viruses and may cause serious illness later in life (multiple sclerosis, cancer, leukemia, etc) we must consider whether the vaccines really work for their intended purpose."

    Dr. W.C. Douglas (Cutting Edge, May 1990).

    --o-O-o--

    "The only wholly safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used"

    Dr. James A. Shannon, National Institute of Health, U.S.A.

    --o-O-o--

    "It is nonsense to think that you can inject pus – and it is usually from the pustule end of the dead smallpox victim… it is unthinkable that you can inject that into a little child and in any way improve its health. What is true of vaccination is exactly as true of all forms of serum immunization, if we could by any means build up a natural resistance to disease through these artificial means, I would applaud it to the echo, but we can’t do it."

    Dr. William Howard Hay (lecture to Medical Freedom Society, June 25th 1937).


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    1. Ingredients
    2. Compensation for vaccine injury to date - $4 billion
    3. VAERS site for vaccine injury
    4. HHS lawsuit that shows no safety studies have been conducted on vaccines for 32 years.
    5. 1986 vaccine law that shields vaccine manufacturers from liability
    6. Supreme Court rules vaccines “unavoidably unsafe”
    7. Vaccine Inserts

    1. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pi...nt-table-2.pdf
    2. https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/f...ticsreport.pdf
    3. https://vaers.hhs.gov
    4. http://icandecide.org/government/ICA...-July-2018.pdf
    5. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati...ine_Injury_Act
    6. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf
    7. http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm
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    I cant keep up with it all---but A Blind man could see There is something far wrong.
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    The virus debate is not a debate. It is the official narrative, fully adopted and implemented. Every health professional agrees with it or is afraid to say otherwise. It is big business and it is the saving grace for the Big Pharma Industry. Vaccination is all up-side for Big Pharma, with the down-side taken on by government. And since government is supposedly 'the people', we get the short end of both ends of the stick. If it kills us too bad, if it injures us it will be denied, and if some financial liability is assumed it comes out of our own pockets, not Big Pharma's. Pretty good deal. Many of us can only wish for such win-win business opportunities.
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    Belgium Exposes Shady Liability Protection Demands by Vaccine Makers!


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    A Polio Outbreak In 2020? You'll Never Guess Why!
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    WTF? Kamala Harris Won't Answer CNN's SIMPLE "V" Question!:


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    The Truth Behind The COVID Pandemic & Trump's 'Operation Warp Speed':

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    So when you combine:

    01. Rockefeller PDF Document Lockstep 2010
    02. Rockefeller Foundation PDF ID2020
    03. World Economic Forum #Agenda2030
    04. Bill Gates and his "Event 201" exercise in Fall 2019
    05. "The Great Reset"
    06. Club of Rome "Planetary Emergency Plan"
    07. "Global Governance" run by unelected (psychopathic) Technocrats using advanced A.I. Algorithms!
    08. 5G - Mass A.I. Surveillance Smart Grid (The Big Elephant in The Room!).
    09. Supreme Court Defeats George Soros and his Overseas Groups
    • All in plain sight ... meanwhile almost all Mainstream Media refuses to ask the hard questions!
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    Read the Fine Print, Pt.2 Nearly 400 Adverse Reactions Listed in Vaccine Package Inserts
    PDF Now Available as a Resource
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/w...8-f329572c9148

    "Vaccine package inserts are one of the best sources of information available for learning what ingredients are in each vaccine and what the potential adverse effects are according to clinical trials and post-marketing experience.

    Now available for download in a PDF format, our comprehensive chart includes the adverse reactions reported in the clinical trial sections of 41 vaccine brands covering diphtheria, Haemophilus influenzae type b, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, human papillomavirus, influenza, meningococcal infection, pertussis, pneumococcal infection, polio, rotavirus, tetanus and varicella. Use this resource to quickly ascertain what adverse events have been connected to each of these vaccines."



    (AND According to Dr. Rashid Buttar's expert testimony in the newly released documentary "Vaccines Revealed" it is on the Congressional Record as stated by the head of the CDC years ago that according to CDC rules, although thimerosal is not ADDED to vaccines as an ingredient, it IS present in vaccines in trace amounts--which are highly toxic-- because it is used in the manufacturing process.
    And that has been the case up until the present day.
    Which is how they have avoided listing it as an ingredient, even while knowing for many years that it is highly toxic even in small amounts,
    And that when combined with aluminum, which is also present in vaccines, is even more toxic, as there is a deadly chemical reaction. )
    More about that in the newest documentary, "Trace Amounts".
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    I've never been a big fan of Alex Jones, but he certainly laid all the necessary facts out very clearly in that video (and fortunately he didn't shout, get hysterical, bang his fist, cry, etc. which makes him seem a lot more credible.)

    I have wondered a lot about Trump's backing down from disputing the mainstream narrative about vaccines, but if what Jones says is true, it's a kind of Aikido move, meant not to further the vaccine agenda, but to foil it via its' own rushed momentum.

    I certainly hope that is the case, but now I'm wondering how it's going to work...such a tricky situation...
    Will enough people pay attention to the unavoidable, indisputable facts about the dangers of vaccines (which even the MSM are beginning to acknowledge) and protest in time enough to thwart the Covid vaccine agenda which is barreling down the pike at breakneck speed?
    (Might this have something to do with the "October surprise"?)

    Watching Kamala in the other video, I was struck by how incredibly stiff she is, as if her heart chakra is paralyzed.
    Elizabeth Warren is similar, but it's more like Warren is so obliviously brainwashed she doesn't realize that she just sounds like she's spewing nonsense most of the time when she talks.
    With Harris, it's more like she knows full well that she's lying, and she enjoys it.

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    From a friend, I don't have a copy of the paper but seen same elsewhere

    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/co...nations-652856

    "In my paper today

    Government wants to vaccinate public as soon as possible and is prepared to sidestep EU licensing laws.

    Midwives, physiotherapists and armed forces to be trained to give vaccine, according to document seen by the I paper.

    Emergency powers will also block anyone from suing Government if they become sick from injection.

    Aren’t those first and third paragraphs particularly chilling?
    So there you have it, anyone who behaves like a sheep will have as much rights as an actual sheep passing through the pen to be jabbed by whatever the farmer sees fit to give him."


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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I've never been a big fan of Alex Jones, but he certainly laid all the necessary facts out very clearly in that video (and fortunately he didn't shout, get hysterical, bang his fist, cry, etc. which makes him seem a lot more credible.)

    I have wondered a lot about Trump's backing down from disputing the mainstream narrative about vaccines, but if what Jones says is true, it's a kind of Aikido move, meant not to further the vaccine agenda, but to foil it via its' own rushed momentum.

    I certainly hope that is the case, but now I'm wondering how it's going to work...such a tricky situation...
    Will enough people pay attention to the unavoidable, indisputable facts about the dangers of vaccines (which even the MSM are beginning to acknowledge) and protest in time enough to thwart the Covid vaccine agenda which is barreling down the pike at breakneck speed?
    (Might this have something to do with the "October surprise"?)

    Watching Kamala in the other video, I was struck by how incredibly stiff she is, as if her heart chakra is paralyzed.
    Elizabeth Warren is similar, but it's more like Warren is so obliviously brainwashed she doesn't realize that she just sounds like she's spewing nonsense most of the time when she talks.
    With Harris, it's more like she knows full well that she's lying, and she enjoys it.
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    This menu by way of a trans Atlantic comparison of sorts.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

    And this historical piece of manure for further analysis and comparison.

    http://time.com/4058511/vaccine-ingredients-inserts/
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    I have to say that I am really jealous of you Chris having a shingles vaccination. I came down with it in April and had the worst indescribable pain ever for 3 months - I can honestly say it was as though my body was being shot at with bullets and all I could do was flinch in pain as I tried to dodge these bullets. I am now left with post herpetic pain which feels as though needles are being stuck in my rib cage. The GP says this could last for 6 months up to 3 years. I worked out that I took over 200 Co-Codamol 500mg tablets during the worst of it. There is no way I could have existed without them. I'm one of those folk who never see a GP and sort myself out if I'm ill. At first I thought I had pulled a muscle in my right rib cage and battled on but about 6 days later I started with the most incredible pain and a high temperature. My other half looked at my torso and saw the tell tale blisters/rash. We sent pictures to the Doctors surgery and he rang me with his diagnosis (this was during lock down.) I was also prescribed anti-depression tablets which I didn't take. Anyway in all honesty going through what I have done I would recommend folk to have the shingles jab. Once you get over 60 yrs old then statistically one in three people will get it and the older you are the worse it apparently is. ..... ( Please be kind to me as this my very first post and I'm not sure if I've done this right. Suzi.)

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    Quote Posted by Suzi E (here)
    I have to say that I am really jealous of you Chris having a shingles vaccination. I came down with it in April and had the worst indescribable pain ever for 3 months - I can honestly say it was as though my body was being shot at with bullets and all I could do was flinch in pain as I tried to dodge these bullets. I am now left with post herpetic pain which feels as though needles are being stuck in my rib cage. The GP says this could last for 6 months up to 3 years. I worked out that I took over 200 Co-Codamol 500mg tablets during the worst of it. There is no way I could have existed without them. I'm one of those folk who never see a GP and sort myself out if I'm ill. At first I thought I had pulled a muscle in my right rib cage and battled on but about 6 days later I started with the most incredible pain and a high temperature. My other half looked at my torso and saw the tell tale blisters/rash. We sent pictures to the Doctors surgery and he rang me with his diagnosis (this was during lock down.) I was also prescribed anti-depression tablets which I didn't take. Anyway in all honesty going through what I have done I would recommend folk to have the shingles jab. Once you get over 60 yrs old then statistically one in three people will get it and the older you are the worse it apparently is. ..... ( Please be kind to me as this my very first post and I'm not sure if I've done this right. Suzi.)
    Dear Suzie E
    Sorry to hear of your experience.
    My best friend had the shingles and thats what decided me.
    It took her about 4 month to be fully rid of it.
    Headaches skin rash etc.
    I had chicken pox as a youngster so was probably ok without the vaccine.

    I have mixed feelings about this vaccine because of the contents.
    There have been side effects -- the main one being shortness of breath that comes on for no reason.
    My immune system is good so that helps.

    So I wish you a speedy recovery and enjoy your time on Avalon its a good place.
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    Argentina today, sold out to big pharma for bancruptcy debts by its own government. Obligatory vacines are anounced, no information about vacine ingredients permette. (Top secret...why?)the people of argentina rebel against being the wòrld's first guinea pigs. Italian media anounced new law but not a hint of protests. Why has the pope not spoke out in solidarity to his people? This is against both the Nurenberg and Geniva conventions of human rights.

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    I have not had a flu jab in ages. The last one I got made me terribly sick. I will not take a shingles or any other vaccine. I will not take a Covid jab. I believe in keeping my immune system up through natural methods. I am rarely sick and plan to keep it this way.
    Maybe plants are actually farming us; giving us oxygen until we decompose and they consume us.

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