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    Do you really want to find out the truth about who you are? Here is a laser fast path and it is free!


    https://spiritual-processing.com/8/true-static
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    Two of the issues i have with this is

    - I know who i am
    - I know who i want to be

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    Then there is: i don't have a clue how to become who i want to be

    And no one can answer than question, except when they try to "answer" by trying to make me the same and follow the same path as they are. Without trying to do the opposite for a moment so they can truly understand

    But yet again, i don't even truly know who i am right now, so every question and approach is valid from my pov, and yet it is not at the same time

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    Two of the issues i have with this is

    - I know who i am
    - I know who i want to be

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    Then there is: i don't have a clue how to become who i want to be

    And no one can answer than question, except when they try to "answer" by trying to make me the same and follow the same path as they are. Without trying to do the opposite for a moment so they can truly understand

    But yet again, i don't even truly know who i am right now, so every question and approach is valid from my pov, and yet it is not at the same time
    There is also another byproduct which is regaining native spiritual abilities.
    and handling life's problems.

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    Quote wo of the issues i have with this is

    - I know who i am
    - I know who i want to be

    -

    Then there is: i don't have a clue how to become who i want to be
    3 quick questions to ask yourself might get you thinking...

    1. What are you GOOD at...?
    2. What do you ENJOY doing...?
    3. If you had NO chance of failure what would you do with your life?

    For me, the meaning of life is to discover your gift, and the purpose of life is to share it (via self-employment) as we each share our gifts helping others to grow and evolve too as we help them with the knowledge, skills and experience we possess and have amassed so far on our journey

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    Discovery of who you are is best done by trial an error. That way you experience many things and many lives. If you think you know who you are supposed to be and follow a straight path without exploration you would be a boring person I would think.
    If you deeply observe, everything is your teacher.

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    Finding out "who you are" might be the right path for some ...


    But there's the complete flip side ... rather that defining ourselves, we need undo everything we have done to "define" ourselves. To "define" means to "mark out the boundaries or limits of". How about rather than changing bars of the cage that limits us from rusty iron to brass or gold, we consider removing the bars (the cage) altogether.

    If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.

    Granted, I am not one to dictate what might be the best path or a learning path for anyone, I just see the power of simplicity.


    Not knowing and defining what I am, and escaping from the need and desire to attempt to define it in order to try to find value within myself (which is exactly what is encoded into the culture of humanity that causes a manipulation of our behaviour in order to "fit in", etc.), has been one of the most powerful and liberating tasks I have ever undertaken in terms of spirituality / abilities / and handling life's problems.

    Just an alternative POV, concerning spirituality ... hope I articulated that correctly.
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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Finding out "who you are" might be the right path for some ...


    But there's the complete flip side ... rather that defining ourselves, we need undo everything we have done to "define" ourselves. To "define" means to "mark out the boundaries or limits of". How about rather than changing bars of the cage that limits us from rusty iron to brass or gold, we consider removing the bars (the cage) altogether.

    If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.

    Granted, I am not one to dictate what might be the best path or a learning path for anyone, I just see the power of simplicity.


    Not knowing and defining what I am, and escaping from the need and desire to attempt to define it in order to try to find value within myself (which is exactly what is encoded into the culture of humanity that causes a manipulation of our behaviour in order to "fit in", etc.), has been one of the most powerful and liberating tasks I have ever undertaken in terms of spirituality / abilities / and handling life's problems.

    Just an alternative POV, concerning spirituality ... hope I articulated that correctly.
    Quote If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.
    When i have done this, i lose all my ground and become completely a monster, in ways that scare me and don't know how to control. It's not just as simple i think, there's a reason we have some limitations in place, as considerate or stable human beings. If we were to completely let go of the bindings, and we have done in the past, what would happen?

    I know what i have seen myself doing from like a mirror or a window, while wishing i was not doing it, i'm not particularly opposing but also not liking what happens when you do that.

    The complete removal of emotional limitations on the human mind? Nah



    LOL
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Finding out "who you are" might be the right path for some ...


    But there's the complete flip side ... rather that defining ourselves, we need undo everything we have done to "define" ourselves. To "define" means to "mark out the boundaries or limits of". How about rather than changing bars of the cage that limits us from rusty iron to brass or gold, we consider removing the bars (the cage) altogether.

    If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.

    Granted, I am not one to dictate what might be the best path or a learning path for anyone, I just see the power of simplicity.


    Not knowing and defining what I am, and escaping from the need and desire to attempt to define it in order to try to find value within myself (which is exactly what is encoded into the culture of humanity that causes a manipulation of our behaviour in order to "fit in", etc.), has been one of the most powerful and liberating tasks I have ever undertaken in terms of spirituality / abilities / and handling life's problems.

    Just an alternative POV, concerning spirituality ... hope I articulated that correctly.
    Quote If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.
    When i have done this, i lose all my ground and become completely a monster, in ways that scare me and don't know how to control. It's not just as simple i think, there's a reason we have some limitations in place, as considerate or stable human beings. If we were to completely let go of the bindings, and we have done in the past, what would happen?

    I know what i have seen myself doing from like a mirror or a window, while wishing i was not doing it, i'm not particularly opposing but also not liking what happens when you do that.

    The complete removal of emotional limitations on the human mind? Nah



    LOL

    Hmmm ... maybe deep down you are a monster?


    More seriously ... I suppose I didn't articulate that very well.

    I am not referring to becoming "emotionless". The human emotional system, when working properly is a subtle guidance mechanism of the spirit (but my observation is that it isn't working like this in 99.99% of humans - currently). It is also the main tool that an overactive ego uses to manipulate one's behaviour based on cultural and societal programs, advertising, religious programming, fear based programs, etc. These programs limit the ability for that guidance system to work freely and properly.

    I am referring to freeing it from all these programs so that it may work in a way that serves us in a more productive and less destructive way.
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    by L. Ron Hubbard ... maybe one of the most controversial man on the planet?
    • I met personally many followers of Rons Org "Free Zone (Scientology)" who came to visit one of my 80+ lectures I gave in 5 Countries between 1990 and 2007
    The Beginner's Guide To L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology)

    ps. I never ever felt the need to join any (cult like) group to be brought in to submission of 100s pushed assumptions that BEGS to be challenged but you suppose to "follow the herd" or "follow the script" or "follow the group-think mentality" and by doing so you become part of their very well crafted mind-traps they have build for you especially those who are claimed it is all done with "good intentions" ... Giving up your own REAL sovereignty your own uniqueness is taking away your responsibility HOW to use & practice real independent discernment skills!

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    are these methods more effective when locked up in The Hole?

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Finding out "who you are" might be the right path for some ...


    But there's the complete flip side ... rather that defining ourselves, we need undo everything we have done to "define" ourselves. To "define" means to "mark out the boundaries or limits of". How about rather than changing bars of the cage that limits us from rusty iron to brass or gold, we consider removing the bars (the cage) altogether.

    If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.

    Granted, I am not one to dictate what might be the best path or a learning path for anyone, I just see the power of simplicity.


    Not knowing and defining what I am, and escaping from the need and desire to attempt to define it in order to try to find value within myself (which is exactly what is encoded into the culture of humanity that causes a manipulation of our behaviour in order to "fit in", etc.), has been one of the most powerful and liberating tasks I have ever undertaken in terms of spirituality / abilities / and handling life's problems.

    Just an alternative POV, concerning spirituality ... hope I articulated that correctly.
    Quote If I choose to not know or care what or who I am, and accept fully that I do not know the answer to that, and that it is a complete mystery, Then I am unbounded by any mental or emotional limitations, regardless of how one set of limitations might look more desirable to another.
    When i have done this, i lose all my ground and become completely a monster, in ways that scare me and don't know how to control. It's not just as simple i think, there's a reason we have some limitations in place, as considerate or stable human beings. If we were to completely let go of the bindings, and we have done in the past, what would happen?

    I know what i have seen myself doing from like a mirror or a window, while wishing i was not doing it, i'm not particularly opposing but also not liking what happens when you do that.

    The complete removal of emotional limitations on the human mind? Nah





    I think it’s not funny even. And I’ve seen many people are afraid of their own ghosts and monsters.

    The main characteristics of the monster is that it needs to consume certain type of things or emotions to keep itself well it’s a baby monster in most cases , it simply craves more love.

    We all grew up from parents tender loving arms but the process never stops in human life. If we can’t find a resonant channel of energy transformation - sharing that is harmonious resonance, we may turn to little monster feeding on lower vibrating energy and fear we descend to the “matter”.
    It’s when people start saying they’re “adult” and become more tough, more hu-man like.

    Resisting low vibrational feed is important and independently reaching to high vibrating places and people is important.

    Avoid crowded and dirty places where your energy fields gets robbed or hijacked.


    Your “monster” may be the most precious part of you if you can deal it kindly, smartly, with level of respect and sensitivity to yourself.

    Avoid people trying to drag your energy down


    Life is actually much bigger than “them”.


    Best wishes

    🙏🦢🙏

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    There is no "path to peace" ... peace IS the path!

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    Why does the url https://spiritual-processing.com/ret...o-true-static/
    posted by Tim Lewis at the top of this thread give me

    "you are lost! " , The page you are looking for was not found!"
    Then refer to Scientology
    https://spiritual-processing.com/

    "NEW ERA SCIENTOLOGY
    There is a learning curve, but the techniques here are simple."


    I suggest to moderators of this forum to remove or move this post to Pseudoreligions/SCIENTOLOGY where it belongs
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    Why does the url https://spiritual-processing.com/ret...o-true-static/
    posted by Tim Lewis at the top of this thread give me

    "you are lost! " , The page you are looking for was not found!"
    Then refer to Scientology
    https://spiritual-processing.com/

    "NEW ERA SCIENTOLOGY
    There is a learning curve, but the techniques here are simple."


    I suggest to moderators of this forum to remove or move this post to Pseudoreligions/SCIENTOLOGY where it belongs
    Thanks! I checked the URL, and it was a bad link. (I edited Tim's post to correct it.) It should be

    https://spiritual-processing.com/true-static

    Now, it's not a 'pseudoreligion'. Tim may not have presented this in the easiest possible way for folks to understand. These things always need a well-written, user-friendly intro. I learned that many years ago!

    This is nothing to do with the Church of Scientology. Tim would be the first to explain that there's nothing to "believe" here.

    We have many Avalon threads about all this, but the bottom line is that the Church of Scientology went bad (for a variety of complex reasons) in the 1970s, and most definitely by 1982. At that point, thousands of highly qualified and very good people left the 'Church' to set up independent groups that continued to offer the basic counseling and processing techniques, some of them pretty much unaltered — because the processes really did work well, when correctly and ethically applied.

    But other splinter groups amended things and went on to develop and offer their own variant techniques, but all of them founded on the same basic principles. Tim's web page refers to one of those offshoot groups, all of which are generally under the general umbrella of "Free Zone Scientology".

    It's all good — but it's very easy to misunderstand, or get the wrong idea.


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    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Why does the url https://spiritual-processing.com/ret...o-true-static/
    posted by Tim Lewis at the top of this thread give me

    "you are lost! " , The page you are looking for was not found!"
    Then refer to Scientology
    https://spiritual-processing.com/

    "NEW ERA SCIENTOLOGY
    There is a learning curve, but the techniques here are simple."


    I suggest to moderators of this forum to remove or move this post to Pseudoreligions/SCIENTOLOGY where it belongs
    If you always ignore the understanding of other cultures, reasonings and understandings based on your current beliefs, doesn't that put you on the exact same situation as if you had joined a cult? One that tells you that you should not listen to any other person or culture because every each other one of them is wrong?

    The only way to achieve true understanding of life and all concepts around it by being human, is to read/hear and learn and understand how these other minds work, then you can make your choice about it. If you made your choice without a real understanding, then you mislead yourself into thinking you had absolute truth, which no one really has at all

    But please don't take this as offensive words or dislike or going against you, is not meant like that at all

    I'm just saying that if you going to dismiss something, you should at least understanding in full before you do, so you accept/reject wat it was all about

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    I( am sorry about poor articulation and the bad link. I should not have posted any links while still developing the website. The site is updated and communicates a little bitter, but it is a work in progress. https://spiritual-processing.com/
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Why does the url https://spiritual-processing.com/ret...o-true-static/
    posted by Tim Lewis at the top of this thread give me

    "you are lost! " , The page you are looking for was not found!"
    Then refer to Scientology
    https://spiritual-processing.com/

    "NEW ERA SCIENTOLOGY
    There is a learning curve, but the techniques here are simple."


    I suggest to moderators of this forum to remove or move this post to Pseudoreligions/SCIENTOLOGY where it belongs
    Thanks! I checked the URL, and it was a bad link. (I edited Tim's post to correct it.) It should be

    https://spiritual-processing.com/true-static

    Now, it's not a 'pseudoreligion'. Tim may not have presented this in the easiest possible way for folks to understand. These things always need a well-written, user-friendly intro. I learned that many years ago!

    This is nothing to do with the Church of Scientology. Tim would be the first to explain that there's nothing to "believe" here.

    We have many Avalon threads about all this, but the bottom line is that the Church of Scientology went bad (for a variety of complex reasons) in the 1970s, and most definitely by 1982. At that point, thousands of highly qualified and very good people left the 'Church' to set up independent groups that continued to offer the basic counseling and processing techniques, some of them pretty much unaltered — because the processes really did work well, when correctly and ethically applied.

    But other splinter groups amended things and went on to develop and offer their own variant techniques, but all of them founded on the same basic principles. Tim's web page refers to one of those offshoot groups, all of which are generally under the general umbrella of "Free Zone Scientology".

    It's all good — but it's very easy to misunderstand, or get the wrong idea.

    Thank you for your clarifying statements, Bill. I will take the care not to communicate so poorly in the future. I do apologize for that. And I should have updated the link as the page structure changed, but it slipped my mind.

    You edited the original post to the definition of true static. This should be my starting point in the website text and will be so soon. The website is still under development to reflect the reasons for wanting to follow such a route and what to expect as a result.

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