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    Could there really be life on Earth’s closest neighbour, Venus? An international team of astronomers have found tentative but compelling evidence for microbial life in the planet’s atmosphere.
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    https://earthsky.org/space/life-on-v...-biosignatures
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    What did the researchers find?
    Simply put, a gas that shouldn’t be there, and on Earth is considered a conclusive biosignature: phosphine, a very stinky gas. As far as scientists know, there are only two ways to produce it, either artificially in a lab, or by certain kinds of microbes that live in oxygen-free environments. Since it is rather unlikely there any alien labs on Venus, that leaves microbes.
    The researchers made the detection using the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope (JCMT) in Hawaii, and the Atacama Large Millimeter Array (ALMA) observatory in Chile.
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    On Monday there will be a paper published by MIT/Cardiff University/University of Manchester researchers about the detection of Phosphine Gas in Venus's spectra. The gas was detected in a narrow band of the thick cloud atmosphere that has suitable (known habitable) pressures and temperatures. This observation was done by 2 telescopes, 1 in Hawaii and 1 in Chile.
    As far as we know Phosphine Gas can only be created two ways 1) artificially in a lab 2) by microbial life.
    They will now work to either continue to make these detections better or prove some other way Phosphine can be created abioticaly by natural processes that is thus far unknown.
    Needless to say, implications are major.
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    https://www.sciencealert.com/have-sc...us-not-so-fast
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...crobes/616342/
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    it is gone ... did you not made a screen snapshot? or mark copy paste the complete content?
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    a distraction perhaps?

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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    A good summary here:

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    Dr Caleb Scharf - Did We Just Detect Life On Venus?

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    The announcement of the detection of a possible biomarker in the atmosphere of Venus has shook up the field of astrobiology and grabbed headlines across the world. Today, we explore why Venus could plausibly host life, how this detection was made, and whether it really means that we've finally found extraterrestrial life. Written and presented by Prof Kipping, featuring guest Dr Caleb Scharf.



    Royal Astronomical Society Press Briefing

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    Lightbulb Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    This gas on Venus could be a new sign of life:

    Have we Found Life at Venus?
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

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    NASA mulls possible mission to Venus after recent discovery of possible life
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    NASA is considering approving by next April up to two planetary science missions from four proposals under review, including one to Venus that scientists involved in the project said could help determine whether or not that planet harbors life.
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    An international research team on Monday described evidence of potential microbes residing in the harshly acidic Venusian clouds: traces of phosphine, a gas that on Earth is produced by bacteria inhabiting oxygen-free environments. It provided strong potential evidence of life beyond Earth.
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    The U.S. space agency in February shortlisted four proposed missions that are now being reviewed by a NASA panel, two of which would involve robotic probes to Venus. One of those, called DAVINCI+, would send a probe into the Venusian atmosphere.
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    “Davinci is the logical one to choose if you’re motivated in part by wanting to follow this up - because the way to follow this up is to actually go there and see what’s going on in the atmosphere,” David Grinspoon, an astrobiologist working on the DAVINCI+ proposal, told Reuters on Tuesday.
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    The three other proposals include: IVO, a mission to Jupiter’s volcanically active moon Io; Trident, a fly-by trek to map Neptune’s icy moon Triton; and VERITAS, the second of the proposed Venus missions that instead would focus on understanding the planet’s geological history. NASA has said it may choose one or two of the missions.
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    The search for life elsewhere in the solar system has until now not focused on Venus. In fact, NASA in July launched a next-generation rover to look for traces of potential past life on Mars.
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    In light of Monday’s findings, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said that is “time to prioritize Venus.” In a statement, Bridenstine said the selection process for the new potential missions will be tough “but I know the process will be fair and unbiased.”
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    Grinspoon, a senior scientist at the Planetary Science Institute, said the selection process should be responsive to recent scientific discoveries.

    “If there was a mission to Triton as a finalist, and then somebody with a telescope observed, you know, a soccer stadium on Triton, then arguably yeah, we should send a mission there,” Grinspoon said.
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    Life .... even microbial ... is INTENT ... and a real Miracle in a Universe of "supposedly" dead matter!

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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    In the light of recent pandemics and considering that vast numbers of human populace do not yet “believe” in microbes - mostly because the science of past 10 thousand years observed the macro universe and its relevance more than it would search for tiny life under our feet,

    I wonder “what kind of simple microbes” could we gather on Venus
    or would they be by any chance ( as John Kuhles said)
    a miracle of intelligent life,

    could they be even smarter than us

    or a remnant of complex AI system scattered in the atmosphere of Venus

    sending us messages of beautiful Venusians with flying saucers

    in our dreams

    but hoping to get us for lunch ?


    New microbes on Venus, waiting to make friends with Corona ?




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