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    Could there really be life on Earth’s closest neighbour, Venus? An international team of astronomers have found tentative but compelling evidence for microbial life in the planet’s atmosphere.
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    https://earthsky.org/space/life-on-v...-biosignatures
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    What did the researchers find?
    Simply put, a gas that shouldn’t be there, and on Earth is considered a conclusive biosignature: phosphine, a very stinky gas. As far as scientists know, there are only two ways to produce it, either artificially in a lab, or by certain kinds of microbes that live in oxygen-free environments. Since it is rather unlikely there any alien labs on Venus, that leaves microbes.
    The researchers made the detection using the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope (JCMT) in Hawaii, and the Atacama Large Millimeter Array (ALMA) observatory in Chile.
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    A comment on an another site:
    On Monday there will be a paper published by MIT/Cardiff University/University of Manchester researchers about the detection of Phosphine Gas in Venus's spectra. The gas was detected in a narrow band of the thick cloud atmosphere that has suitable (known habitable) pressures and temperatures. This observation was done by 2 telescopes, 1 in Hawaii and 1 in Chile.
    As far as we know Phosphine Gas can only be created two ways 1) artificially in a lab 2) by microbial life.
    They will now work to either continue to make these detections better or prove some other way Phosphine can be created abioticaly by natural processes that is thus far unknown.
    Needless to say, implications are major.
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    https://www.sciencealert.com/have-sc...us-not-so-fast
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...crobes/616342/
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    it is gone ... did you not made a screen snapshot? or mark copy paste the complete content?
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    a distraction perhaps?

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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    A good summary here:

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    Dr Caleb Scharf - Did We Just Detect Life On Venus?

    Published 14th September 2020

    The announcement of the detection of a possible biomarker in the atmosphere of Venus has shook up the field of astrobiology and grabbed headlines across the world. Today, we explore why Venus could plausibly host life, how this detection was made, and whether it really means that we've finally found extraterrestrial life. Written and presented by Prof Kipping, featuring guest Dr Caleb Scharf.



    Royal Astronomical Society Press Briefing

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    Lightbulb Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    This gas on Venus could be a new sign of life:

    Have we Found Life at Venus?
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

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    NASA mulls possible mission to Venus after recent discovery of possible life
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...rce=reddit.com
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    NASA is considering approving by next April up to two planetary science missions from four proposals under review, including one to Venus that scientists involved in the project said could help determine whether or not that planet harbors life.
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    An international research team on Monday described evidence of potential microbes residing in the harshly acidic Venusian clouds: traces of phosphine, a gas that on Earth is produced by bacteria inhabiting oxygen-free environments. It provided strong potential evidence of life beyond Earth.
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    The U.S. space agency in February shortlisted four proposed missions that are now being reviewed by a NASA panel, two of which would involve robotic probes to Venus. One of those, called DAVINCI+, would send a probe into the Venusian atmosphere.
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    “Davinci is the logical one to choose if you’re motivated in part by wanting to follow this up - because the way to follow this up is to actually go there and see what’s going on in the atmosphere,” David Grinspoon, an astrobiologist working on the DAVINCI+ proposal, told Reuters on Tuesday.
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    The three other proposals include: IVO, a mission to Jupiter’s volcanically active moon Io; Trident, a fly-by trek to map Neptune’s icy moon Triton; and VERITAS, the second of the proposed Venus missions that instead would focus on understanding the planet’s geological history. NASA has said it may choose one or two of the missions.
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    The search for life elsewhere in the solar system has until now not focused on Venus. In fact, NASA in July launched a next-generation rover to look for traces of potential past life on Mars.
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    In light of Monday’s findings, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said that is “time to prioritize Venus.” In a statement, Bridenstine said the selection process for the new potential missions will be tough “but I know the process will be fair and unbiased.”
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    Grinspoon, a senior scientist at the Planetary Science Institute, said the selection process should be responsive to recent scientific discoveries.

    “If there was a mission to Triton as a finalist, and then somebody with a telescope observed, you know, a soccer stadium on Triton, then arguably yeah, we should send a mission there,” Grinspoon said.
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    Life .... even microbial ... is INTENT ... and a real Miracle in a Universe of "supposedly" dead matter!

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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    In the light of recent pandemics and considering that vast numbers of human populace do not yet “believe” in microbes - mostly because the science of past 10 thousand years observed the macro universe and its relevance more than it would search for tiny life under our feet,

    I wonder “what kind of simple microbes” could we gather on Venus
    or would they be by any chance ( as John Kuhles said)
    a miracle of intelligent life,

    could they be even smarter than us

    or a remnant of complex AI system scattered in the atmosphere of Venus

    sending us messages of beautiful Venusians with flying saucers

    in our dreams

    but hoping to get us for lunch ?


    New microbes on Venus, waiting to make friends with Corona ?




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    Will the Discovery of Life on Venus Impact UFO Disclosure?
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    Quote Posted by skogvokter (here)
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    Could there really be life on Earth’s closest neighbour, Venus? An international team of astronomers have found tentative but compelling evidence for microbial life in the planet’s atmosphere.
    ,
    https://earthsky.org/space/life-on-v...-biosignatures
    ,

    ,
    What did the researchers find?
    Simply put, a gas that shouldn’t be there, and on Earth is considered a conclusive biosignature: phosphine, a very stinky gas. As far as scientists know, there are only two ways to produce it, either artificially in a lab, or by certain kinds of microbes that live in oxygen-free environments. Since it is rather unlikely there any alien labs on Venus, that leaves microbes.
    The researchers made the detection using the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope (JCMT) in Hawaii, and the Atacama Large Millimeter Array (ALMA) observatory in Chile.
    ,
    A comment on an another site:
    On Monday there will be a paper published by MIT/Cardiff University/University of Manchester researchers about the detection of Phosphine Gas in Venus's spectra. The gas was detected in a narrow band of the thick cloud atmosphere that has suitable (known habitable) pressures and temperatures. This observation was done by 2 telescopes, 1 in Hawaii and 1 in Chile.
    As far as we know Phosphine Gas can only be created two ways 1) artificially in a lab 2) by microbial life.
    They will now work to either continue to make these detections better or prove some other way Phosphine can be created abioticaly by natural processes that is thus far unknown.
    Needless to say, implications are major.
    ,,
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    https://www.sciencealert.com/have-sc...us-not-so-fast
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...crobes/616342/
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    edited original article, added some more.
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    Based on what I know now we better hope they found life there because as the sun nears it's next cycle it will push the planets out further away as it births a new one! Eventually earth, like mars before it, will be pushed out of this band of life where the third and fourth planet can sometimes exist to support life here. Once earth gets pushed out of this band of life it's atmosphere will dwindle and diminish like mars did and in time we'll have to as a species move to venus! Apparently that is what happened to the residents of mars that came here, only they had to hybridize to existing beings here to survive. Hopefully if we prepare properly we will not have to go to that extreme! It all depends on how much we learn about genetics, cloning, reproduction and life in space between now and 2046 late in the year based on what I have learned.
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    How interesting.

    Based on the doubling of the distance to the sun between planetary orbits, I was wondering if anything is mentioned about Earth`s rather strange location...
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    I wonder if in any way this finding validates Mr Velikovski's theory on Venus' creation?
    As Jupiter & Other gas giants has a high quantity of Phosphine & To date there is not a reasonable explanation for said Phosphine on Venus...
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    Signs of life on Venus ignored since 1978 until now:
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    Default Re: Has microbial life been found on Venus?

    The discovery of life may have been found already back 30 years ago. The extrapolation of images from the Venera landed space craft appear to show that life may already have been discovered back then. The Russian press appear to be inadequate when it comes to announcing this 'evidence' to the West.

    Although the discovery of phosphine may provide the precursor evidence required for the question on the existence of extraterrestrial life may be answered not as a result of its search for in other worlds removed by distances of dozens of parsecs but on the surface of Venus, i.e., of the nearest planet of the Solar system.

    The search for “habitable zones” in extrasolar planetary systems is based on the postulate on “normal” physical conditions, i.e., the pressure, temperature, and maybe atmospheric composition similar to those on Earth. But could not such an approach be a kind of “terrestrial chauvinism”? Considering the conditions on Venus as a possibility.

    Analogue of physical conditions on low-orbiting exoplanets of the “super-Earths” type, an analysis of Venusian surface panoramas’ details have been made with the publication of 50 peer reviewed papers going back 30 years. Its unfortunate that Russian science papers of this kind are not commonly been aware of in the West.

    The images were produced by the VENERA landers in 1975 and 1982. A few relatively large objects were found with size ranging from a decimetre to half meter and with unusual morphology. The objects were observed in some images, but were absent in the other or altered their shape. The results and analyses may show the 'evidence' of reality of these objects and therefore 'life' was already known back then.

    Life on Venus: An Interview with Dr. Leonid Ksanfomality (Venera Principle Investigator)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQtpgVU3fxw

    Dr. Ksanfomality is a senior researcher and a head of the Laboratory on Photometry and Thermal Radiometry at the Space Research Institute, Russian Academy of Sciences, and a contributor to the Venera missions in 1970-80s. In fact he was the Principle Investigator for the Venera landers. He had published 50 papers providing the claim that life is on Venus.

    http://www.sci-news.com/space/article...

    https://file.scirp.org/pdf/IJAA_2013032914405002.pdf

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