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    Conspiracy is Not a Theory

    by Andrew
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    September 17, 2020


    The modern world reflects the Satanist (Cabalist Jewish) conspiracy against God and man. The mainspring is the Cabalist Jewish (Masonic) central banking cartel. Its goal is the enslavement of mankind in a New World Order, world government tyranny, aka "globalism." This is behind the COVID pandemic hoax.

    As Andrew explains below, the CIA helps administers this conspiracy worldwide. It is the "Deep State."
    Andrew is a retired attorney living in Texas.

    Understanding Conspiracy Theories

    by Andrew
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    The problem with trying to explain "conspiracy theories" is most people don't understand that a "conspiracy" is:
    An agreement among two or more coconspirators to commit an illegal act through legal means or to commit a legal act through illegal means.
    So why are CONSPIRACY THEORIES demonized by MASS MEDIA (MSM) today?

    In 1967 the CIA simply changed the definition of CONSPIRACY THEORIES to mean any narrative not approved by the CIA. The CIA Created the Label "Conspiracy Theorists" ... to Attack Anyone Who Challenges the "Official" Narrative.



    The CIA's disinformation campaigns were known as"Operation Mockingbird" where the CIA charged the MSM to repeat the same story. Washington Post publisher Hugh Graham famously said that a journalist was cheaper to buy than a whore, "a couple of hundred bucks a month."

    It was so effective that Zbigniew Brzezinski said in 1972,
    "Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
    Outside America, however, conspiracy theories are well respected.

    For example, Russian Biologist and Former U.N. Expert Igor Nikulin explained last February that COVID-19 is a Biological Weapon Used by Global Government to Reduce the World's Population.

    Igor Nikulin: "I believe that it is no coincidence [that China was infected with coronavirus]. I believe that this virus was selected very carefully, in order to reach countries that are considered to be America's rivals, such as China, Iran, and some EU countries including Italy. Many people think that there are pro-Russian tendencies in those countries, and this is why we see more infected people in those countries. I don't think that this is a mere coincidence. This is a scheme by the world's elites..."



    Interviewer: "The global government..."

    Igor Nikulin: "Right. The global government is the correct term. At least that is what they call themselves. No one elected them but this is how they see themselves. These 200 families have $400 trillion, and they consider themselves to be the most important people on Earth. They own most of the media outlets. They are the ones making the Hollywood movies - for example, they make movies about pandemics. These families control the minds of humanity, and claim that humanity must be reduced to one-tenth of the current population."

    [...]

    Interviewer: "Is it really possible to produce biological weapons that target a specific nation or ethnic group, and that may infect them but not others? There were reports that the Israelis were thinking about producing - or have actually produced - some sort of biological weapon that kills Palestinians but does not harm other Israelis. Is it true? Is it possible?"

    Igor Nikulin: "People talk about this. I know that a few years ago, there was a strange epidemic in Madagascar. It was not in Africa. It was a pneumonic plague, which is a horrible thing. This epidemic killed only the locals, while it did not harm European tourists and not even the yellow race. There is also, of course, weapons such as Ebola, Avian Influenza, and the coronavirus that is currently infecting mostly Chinese and other Asian peoples. Such weapons exist. In 1999, the Americans started a project... The head of the CIA at the time, George Tenet, and President Clinton said that they would produce pathogenic agents that would affect certain races but not others. Twenty years have passed and the time for field experiments has come. It seems that planet Earth has been turned into a testing ground. I'll go even further and say that the Anglo-Saxon countries have issued a biological warning to all non-English speaking countries: 'Either you live according to the laws we impose on you, or you will not live on this planet. Either we kill you fast or we kill you slowly.' This is the main problem of modern world policy."




    On September 15, 2020, a high-level Chinese virologist who has fled the PRC under duress said China's government 'intentionally' released COVID-19 'I work[ed] in the WHO reference lab, which is the top coronavirus lab in the world.'

    Chinese virologist: China's government 'intentionally' released COVID-19

    The Russian expert seems to be more credible because he's not playing BLAME GAMES and correctly pointing to THE GLOBAL GOVERNMENT ... which is how Russians refer to UN Agenda 2030 NEW WORLD ORDER ... whose admitted goal is to reduce global population 90%."

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    Thank you for your great posts. You see further than most.
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    [Pseudo skeptic quote]: John you are a "Conspiracy Nut" [unquote]

    ~my response:

    Yeah it “must” be total nuts that we have laws to put people in prison (jail) for conspiring … totally nuts is that … what were they thinking? … When two or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is totally “science fiction” … the lawmakers must also be “conspiracy nuts” then.

    Conspiracy Researchers studies Proven Conspiracy Facts and sometimes have “Theories” about KNOWN liars mixed with hard evidence of corruption, colluding, deceptions etc. … To label some one “Conspiracy Theorists” is to FALSELY ASSUME that some one ‘only’ cooks up “theories”.

    This desperate need to control the narrative by MSM is part of mass dumbing down of a nation! Look up the word “Conspiracy” in any (LAW) Dictionary … then ask yourself is that “science fiction”? … When 2 or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is that so “far fetched” … what MSM tries to do is you to be associated with certain people that are FAR from being a true researchers or being an honest conspiracy analyst.

    The reason MSM never can share an honest representation of that what they attack is because they assume most will not verify their own sold claims & judgemental assumptions to them! So they count on you being lazy!

    Ask any police officer if they are allowed to have a theory when they investigating a possible crime … just ask them please … Then you will realize how stupid the framing really is.

    TV Series like: “Inspector Columbo” (Peter Falk) would be pretty BORING if he was not allowed to have several theories when he is investigating a possible crime(s) and/or criminal suspect(s). You see they DEMONIZE any critical thinking exposing Government Puppet Politicians, Corrupted Mainstream Media, Hijacked “Protecting Agencies”, Big Pharma Mafia, Banksters with their Giant Fiat Money Pyramid Ponzi Scheme etc.

    There is nothing wrong having theories ... but it will get wrong (really bad) when MSM get never get a "fact check" when they spew theories & (rigged) "computer models" / 'predicting the future' scare monger tactics 24/7 ... When we occasionally do it, they falsely assume it is meant as "absolute" or "only one way of thinking" like as if it is a fact.

    So they first FRAME us (using straw-man argument tactics) then claim we are "spreading misleading/deceptive" information that can have consequences for their #Agenda2030 "Global Governance" plans ... But when they (msm) have theories, it will be treated as such by "fact checkers sites" leaving them alone as the theories HELPS to push their agenda when they are NOT openly challenged!

    Meanwhile they are the ones using obvious misleading/deceptive framing techniques to silence any form of real opposition/resistance.

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    And the remaining people will be utterly flushed away with Bill and Linda Gates's vaccine.

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    all brilliant posts on this thread, thank you all.

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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    [B] For example, Russian Biologist and Former U.N. Expert Igor Nikulin explained last February that COVID-19 is a Biological Weapon Used by Global Government to Reduce the World's Population.

    Igor Nikulin: "I believe that it is no coincidence [that China was infected with coronavirus]. I believe that this virus was selected very carefully, in order to reach countries that are considered to be America's rivals, such as China, Iran, and some EU countries including Italy. Many people think that there are pro-Russian tendencies in those countries, and this is why we see more infected people in those countries. I don't think that this is a mere coincidence. This is a scheme by the world's elites..."
    Whilst I accept the overall premise of your entire post I find the above difficult to accept given the figures on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/? under the sub-heading Reported Cases and Deaths by Country, Territory, or Conveyance

    However, I have not bothered to research the ownership of linked website or the accuracy of figures therein.

    The salient point remains, conspiracies are very real and always have been. You can often overhear people snorting derisively in respect of the subject and it is akin, to me, with the people who would rally round shouting 'Witch! Burn the witch!'

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    I agree that conspiracy not a theory.
    However, this virus may be the normal seasonal one --which is different every year but of the same family.
    Depending on the source of the mortality rate quoted but there have been worse flu's
    So if it was man made or doctored I would have thought that they would have released a much more deadly version.

    It suits the fearmongering agenda to claim it was released from a laboratory rather than a normal seasonal event.
    There is no real proof either way but professional saying no worse than seasonal flu which less face it kills millions of old and infirm and some not so.
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    They counted on the ignorance of the public, which is gargantuan.

    Who has ever been aware of the rates of flu infection each year? Almost no one.

    It was an easy conspiracy to play on the massive ignorance of the public, since they care not a whit to know anything, most even proud of their ignorance. Most are happy to concede to authority the benefit of the doubt, since they themselves are in that state constantly - unsure, uneducated, easily terrified.

    Now we see how the managerial level is complicit, whether knowingly or not. That they themselves are not informed even though it is supposed to be their area of expertise. And the front line doctors, who are the ones responsible to the family of the infected, are not being listened to even though they are the ones saving the lives of the sick.

    It is the incompetence of the managers, the ones wielding power, the ones not doing the work, the ones making the money, the ones with the status, the ones with the connections, that are purposely turning a deaf ear to their own staff. They know better but they also know who is buttering their bread - and it ain't the ones who know best.

    A truly sad state of affairs. We are in the age of not only mediocrity but of incompetence. Only in the land of complete incompetence can such a fiasco ever have happened.

    We need to stop learning what our employers want us to learn in school and start learning what we need to know or we are going to end up having all our thinking done for us very soon.
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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    [B] For example, Russian Biologist and Former U.N. Expert Igor Nikulin explained last February that COVID-19 is a Biological Weapon Used by Global Government to Reduce the World's Population.

    Igor Nikulin: "I believe that it is no coincidence [that China was infected with coronavirus]. I believe that this virus was selected very carefully, in order to reach countries that are considered to be America's rivals, such as China, Iran, and some EU countries including Italy. Many people think that there are pro-Russian tendencies in those countries, and this is why we see more infected people in those countries. I don't think that this is a mere coincidence. This is a scheme by the world's elites..."
    Whilst I accept the overall premise of your entire post I find the above difficult to accept given the figures on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/? under the sub-heading Reported Cases and Deaths by Country, Territory, or Conveyance

    However, I have not bothered to research the ownership of linked website or the accuracy of figures therein.
    Well if we take the Nikulin quote to be accurate, he was proven to be totally wrong.

    Because at the time he would have made his quote COVID hadn't hit the U.S. yet.

    Now surely the U.S. wouldn't want to hit its rivals and ITSELF!!!
    Does that make any sense to what Nikulin was saying?

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    Someone asked “what’s worse”. What’s worse is the “conspiracy of intent”.

    I think it’s where the original meaning of conspiracy starts. Con-spire , breath together. Perhaps not everyone speaks the same tongue and some can not talk but it takes blink of an eye to conspire.
    Not longer than that - to approve or disprove the intent.

    People all over the ages are born with different intents they seek to fulfil, consciously or subconsciously.

    If you have mentioned the Covid 19 again, think of the pure malintent of those who ever created it and released it in order to disrupt global traffic.
    Hence on it isn’t as important how many lives it took and affected predictably for years or how many people were spared, safely behind its timeline.
    What matters is the idea -the intent- in someone’s mind that the virus could change something significantly , cause political upheaval , even collapse of whole states and infrastructures,
    and kill as many people as possible.

    However implausible such conspiracy theory seems - I’m sorry to remind you that the agenda and minds aligned with it does exist -from ideological to practical terms and it is feared even by most world governments.


    We don’t know who are the people willing to conspire with either side of things because most people have not defined for themselves what would they accept and approve as Universal principles,
    some rely on their religious or secular systems to define them better,

    others simply never thought about it.

    People have ascended to various heights and descended to various manners. Thus we have “free love vs promiscuity” , “organ donations vs organ trade”, “service to humanity & slave trade” and so and so forth. The tale of extreme polarities could go endless.

    Conspiracy of Intent does not need words to start, especially if it’s natural, pro-freedom conspiracy.

    Evil conspiracies on the other hand often require “re-education” or “being read” to a manual ( or a novel) picked by the ideologist.
    There may be far more simple evil conspiracies of intent but those don’t get very far, usually.


    So my “overall conspiracy theory” comes down to a basic observation of any conspiratorial fact shared mostly by natural breath unites and converges to human fact and observable theory on our space time crossings and we either confirm the intent and alignment- or not.

    It happens on the minutest level of social manners, with or without talking.

    The Intent ultimately matters the most.

    In case of human conspiracy theories, there’s usually either

    a/the intent to help others or
    b/the intent to control them

    and the two groups have many subgroups of course.


    But nowadays the two groups rarely exist in pure form, they are more thoroughly mixed together so are humans and their manners.

    So again I’d repeat, while definitions on outside may be difficult to agree on “for most of us”,
    it’s the intent that matters.



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    Thesis: Conspiracy is a pejorative word for what happens when two or more people are like-minded and, to some outside group, their like-mindedness is not in the best interests of a larger group.

    Antithesis: If you have two groups, then you will have conspiracies. They will only disappear when everyone is in agreement over one particular thing.

    Synthesis: like-mindedness (sometimes aka conspiracy) is our friend. To reach the next level, consider what is this one thing over which we can all agree? What do we mean by humanity? To what extent might it embrace ‘artificial intelligence’? To what extent are we justifiably held back by our ‘animal instincts’? To what extent are we UNjustifiably held back by our ‘animal instincts’? Etc.

    Thesis 2: Intelligence can be manipulated so as to evolve.

    Antithesis 2: Humanity is NOT/other than/contrary to intelligence.

    Synthesis 2: Humanity is competent humanity. What works works: the definition of intelligence.

    Thesis 3: Intelligence can be manipulated so as to evolve.

    Antithesis 3: Humanity is intelligence in action.

    Synthesis 3: Humanity is.

    Thesis 4: Humanity is. Indestructible.


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    Conspiracy seems to depend on group intent then.

    One person can conspire whatever they wish but for it to become theory
    not to say valid theory more than one entity is required.

    In jest, Life itself is the greatest conspiracy theorist in the Universe inventing multitudes of alternative forms and options some of whom are invalid.

    In case of thinking Beings -like us- acknowledgement and purification of intent is
    required in order to get rid off invalid options and conspiracy theories.

    We are here to recognise and acknowledge our true meaning and intent.

    We may get engaged in groups and lose our sovereignty and divert from our original intent.

    Being part of it all is important but 99% of our real life we are alone in it and have to stand for ourselves.

    And when I say we are alone in it I’m positive because the Universe and it’s intelligence are fully with us at that time.
    101 is easy. There are no conflicts and no repetitions.


    That’s until the Universe coinvents and summons say Martha to test and tempt you. You fall for Martha and start new conspiracy theory.


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    You could say that all life conspires to remain alive.
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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Conspiracy seems to depend on group intent then.

    One person can conspire whatever they wish but for it to become theory
    not to say valid theory more than one entity is required.
    You simply do not understand the meaning of the words conspiracy
    and conspiracy theory by making that statement.

    Let's take the first part of your statement:

    "One person can conspire whatever they wish".

    By definition one person can NEVER conspire on their own.
    TWO people or more must conspire.


    Now let's take the second part of your statement:

    "but for it to become theory not to say valid theory more than one entity is required."

    Wrong again.
    A conspiracy does not "become a conspiracy theory".
    A conspiracy is a conspiracy, end of story.
    People may after the fact develop theories on the conspiracy or not, but that is entirely another matter.

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    But what if there was no conspiracy, just the theory that there was one?
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    But what if there was no conspiracy, just the theory that there was one?
    Sure you could have that.

    But I wasn't addressing that. I was addressing what Agape said specifically:

    "Conspiracy seems to depend on group intent then.

    One person can conspire whatever they wish but for it to become theory
    not to say valid theory more than one entity is required."

    Conspiracy doesn't become theory depending on how many people
    conspired.
    And it is never a conspiracy with one person planning a crime.

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    Is it fair to say then that :
    To conspire is to gather together and make plans in secret with the willful intent of committing a crime. Collusion is the legal charge of committing the crime of conspiracy.
    Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. Bruce Lee

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    Is it fair to say then that :
    To conspire is to gather together and make plans in secret with the willful intent of committing a crime. Collusion is the legal charge of committing the crime of conspiracy.
    Absolutely, provided the "together" is two human beings.
    Not one human and a cat or dog or budgie etc.

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    You could say that all life conspires to remain alive.
    Is it a crime to remain alive?

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