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    LIVE: Biden vs. Trump! First Presidential Debate

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    • President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden participate in the first 2020 presidential debate in Cleveland, OH. c-span.org/debates
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    "THE GREAT DEBATE!" LIVE FROM 1:30AM UK TIME
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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Can someone please confirm for me - I'm not the only one that struggles to listen to these guys and political debates in general?

    The dissonance I feel I as struggle to maintain focus and attention becomes a physical wrestling match between my hand reaching to
    disconnect and my mind telling me how important this election could be for the direction the world is heading.

    My hand won - my mind will just have to wade through the opinions of others commenting on who said what.

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    Chris Wallace DEBATES Trump More Than Joe Biden!
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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Im an honest guy and have to say, I think calm Joe did a good job. He was a smart and seasoned debater and it showed. The bar seemed to have been set so low for him and so him being calm and speaking pretty well seemed a miracle.
    Trump on the other hand compromised himself unnecessarily by being hectic, interrupting and too pushy .

    the looser= the american people as this was a mess

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    "China, ate your lunch Joe!"

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that such a political televised debate would be as lively on UK television between 2 British political candidates. So in your opinion, who was the better "debater" who stuck to the facts and why the populous should vote for them.

    Were you convinced by or have faith in either of them?
    Did what you hear, put faith in that person or undermine them?
    What did you think of Trump's mental faculties? What about Biden's?
    Do you think the moderator did a good job? (Some say he should run )
    Are either men fit for running the country or are they just stage puppets anyway?

    Some highlights in case you missed them -





    One thing for sure, whilst trump has made many gaffs in recent years, the internet has been flooded in recent weeks with videos of Biden's verbal and menal cock-ups.

    What say you?
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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    The problem with Biden is that he was a very famous Vice President. He comes across as the substitute. Bernie Saunders would have been a far better candidate. Trump will wipe the floor with Biden in a fair election.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    After denying he was in favour of the Green New Deal, Biden said the Green New Deal would pay for itself, which exposed Biden as supporting it after all, despite his denials. Also, Trump succeeded in contrasting his intention to open the economy with Biden's intention to keep it closed into next year, which Biden didn't deny.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Joe wore a wire
    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/s...253562881?s=07

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    Joe wore a wire
    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/s...253562881?s=07

    I'm very sorry to say that I don't agree; I looked at it closely on full screen and it's the shadow of a rumple in his shirt. Once he straightens up, his shirt straightens and the shadow disappears. Had it been a wire he would have had to tuck it in again. Wouldn't he have had a wire pinned out of sight? Is a wire outdated now in this wifi age?

    Truly sorry... it doesn't mean that he didn't have a better concealed one though. One in his ear, perhaps? Did he have his skin-tone plug in his ear again and kept it out of camera angle?

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Most of the debates in the past were vicious, so this one was no different.

    As an American, I DEMAND that both candidates take a piss test and and ear check for the next debates.... Biden and his camp are trying to pull another fast one on us. Proves to me that he's hiding something. First, hiding his dementia and his diminished mental capacity is a very serious matter. And the matter of getting prompts through the ear piece shows how far the left is willing to go to lie to us.... We, Americans deserve better than being tricked.

    If you watched him carefully, you could see that he acted like he was listening to the prompts in his ear piece. At one point, he even put his finger near his right ear. Even my 10 year old grandson caught that. Biden's eyes were a dead give away, too. And then the goofy faces he made....Yeeeesh!....! Anyone with children will know that tactic when they try to hide the truth from their parents.

    I had been listening to both of the candidates over the last several months along with other information, I was aware of the lies and accusations coming out of Biden's lips. Also, he used a couple of redirect tactics instead of answering.

    And I'll bet he went back to his basement dead tired last night... Poor man. He should be in a nursing home. And his wife should be charged with senior abuse for allowing this charade to continue for as long as it has....

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

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    Quote Posted by GMB1961 (here)
    Joe wore a wire
    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/s...253562881?s=07

    I'm very sorry to say that I don't agree; I looked at it closely on full screen and it's the shadow of a rumple in his shirt. Once he straightens up, his shirt straightens and the shadow disappears. Had it been a wire he would have had to tuck it in again. Wouldn't he have had a wire pinned out of sight? Is a wire outdated now in this wifi age?

    Truly sorry... it doesn't mean that he didn't have a better concealed one though. One in his ear, perhaps? Did he have his skin-tone plug in his ear again and kept it out of camera angle?
    This is veering off-topic (maybe!), but if I were in charge of Biden's campaign I'd know for sure that everyone would be looking for a "wire". But "wires" are old tech.

    A neater solution would be a small wireless device surgically implanted in his ear that no-one would be able to see, and which could be remotely activated any time. It might need a specialist to examine him and detect it, but I'd bet quite a large cup of coffee that it's there.


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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    A part of a larger article:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...we-people-lose

    Iím not holding my breath in the hopes that the winner of this yearís popularity contest will save us from government surveillance, weaponized drones, militarized police, endless wars, SWAT team raids, asset forfeiture schemes, overcriminalization, profit-driven private prisons, graft and corruption, or any of the other evils that masquerade as official government business these days.

    You see, after years of trying to wake Americans up to the reality that there is no political savior who will save us from the police state, Iíve come to realize that Americans want to engage in the reassurance ritual of voting.

    They want to believe the fantasy that politics matter.

    They want to be persuaded that thereís a difference between the Republicans and Democrats (thereís not).

    Some will swear that Donald Trump has been an improvement on Barack Obama (he is not).

    Others are convinced that Joe Bidenís values are different from Donald Trumpís (with both of them, money talks).

    Most of all, voters want to buy into the fantasy that when they elect a president, theyíre getting someone who truly represents the citizenry rather than the Deep State (in fact, in the oligarchy that is the American police state, an elite group of wealthy donors is calling the shots in cooperation with a political elite).

    The sad truth is that it doesnít matter who wins the White House, because they all work for the same boss: Corporate America. Understanding this, many corporations hedge their bets on who will win the White House by splitting their donations between Democratic and Republican candidates.

    Politics is a game, a joke, a hustle, a con, a distraction, a spectacle, a sport, and for many devout Americans, a religion. It is a political illusion aimed at persuading the citizenry that we are free, that our vote counts, and that we actually have some control over the government when in fact, we are prisoners of a Corporate Elite.

    In other words, itís a sophisticated ruse aimed at keeping us divided and fighting over two parties whose priorities, more often than not, are exactly the same so that we donít join forces and do what the Declaration of Independence suggests, which is to throw the whole lot out and start over.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    If he was wearing a wire it wouldn't be on top of his shirt for all to see. There was no wire, as Bill said - that's old tech. I don't think Joe was cheating, reading a prompt, or being coached. Not this time.

    I personally feel Joe did a good job, far better than I would have imagined. He stayed mostly lucid and on point throughout. Can't endorse the quality of his rhetoric however, it was wafer thin and riddled with falsehood, but those who already support him will no doubt continue to support him based on this performance. They probably won't question his addressing them directly by talking into the camera, rather than tackling Trump head on with actual debate. Which is what I thought this exercise was for. The awful format is partly to blame for that, not to mention the awful moderator who disrupted proceedings constantly. Just let them have at it. Let them debate! That's what the people need and want to see!

    I feel these debates are useful only for those who are on the fence going into the election. In that regard I don't believe Trump did a good job at all winning potential new voters. He spent most of his time arguing with the moderator while pointing and ranting as Joe chuckled quietly to himself. Car wreck television if I'm honest.
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    To me it seemed like a cat fight. Watching two men biding for the top position of government in a powerful country I'm not sure you could safely say either one of them came out a winner.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    About an hour into the debate I realized it was on and spent three entire minutes watching before a voice in my head said "why are you punishing yourself." Even reading comments and summaries about it, it made me feel like I needed to take a shower.

    From the time I was in Kindergarten to going to college, we would notice students who were unusually smart, who had the gift of eloquence, who sparkled with integrity and seemed like the had great potential to do good in the world. We would say "maybe they'll grow up to be president someday." What ever happened to those people?

    It seems that both the RNC and DNC are hellbent on keeping those lousy do-gooders out of their parties.

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    It seems that both the RNC and DNC are hellbent on keeping those lousy do-gooders out of their parties.
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    They both came across as foolish to me. Two grown men acting like insolent boys. I am not encouraged by either of them. It saddens me what this country has become.
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