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    Democrats ALREADY Begging Biden Not To Debate Trump Again, Demand Rule Changes To Help Joe Compete:

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    It's also a primo example of confirmation bias.
    I agree that you would see it that way & that it is a bit hyperbolic, but only a bit really... (fox is controlled opposition, all MSM is a part of or being used by the insurgency).


    I saw a strong motivated leader frustrated with the traditional format of trading sound bites.....

    I think it was definitely a loss or Biden, trump may have come out "even" due to his brashness, but over all I thought it was much better than previous debates from a "deal with actual issues" point of view.


    I wonder if it would have been different on the Rogan podcast or if it would have been similar.. I still think that should happen!
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    Calls For Joe Rogan to Moderate Next Debate Intensify After Chris Wallace’s Disastrous Performance
    • But Biden can only perform when the moderator is on his side.
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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    I thought Biden did far better than expected. At least he did not fall asleep or loose his train of thought too much. His talking points, though, were old and did not address the issues. Instead, Biden kept up his attack of Trump's character and portrayed the president as a liar, incompetent, and anti-patriotic.

    Trump, on the other hand, listed his accomplishments and mentioned his action plan for his second term. Trump was a bit unruly and did interrupt Biden but mostly when Biden would cast a maligning and often untrue personal insult.

    As for Wallace, he used the old tactic of the false 'fait acompli' on many occasions, interspersed his comments with opinions stated as facts, and used subconscious manipulation. One was the use of the term 'vice president Biden' - he is not the vice president and should not be called by that title. Another was the emphasis on the accepted fact (which it is not) of the danger of this virus. Others were the obvious efficacy of masks, the mostly peaceful protests, the fact that the most violence is happening in Democrat run cities and states. There were many others...

    If it were not for Wallace's manipulation, Biden would have been a disaster. As it is Biden looses but Trump did not seem to shine either. I liked how he called Biden 'Joe' throughout, without resorting to the same level of vitriol as his opponent.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

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    Spiro Skouras points out what’s talked about elsewhere - Augmented Reality Contact Lens. It begins @3:40.
    Did Joe Biden Use New Technology To Cheat During The Presidential Debate? (8 min)

    The first US Presidential debate of 2020 was held last night… Watch it and decide for yourself, we not here to tell you who won.

    That being said… There have been videos circulating showing what appears to portray former Vice President Joe Biden 'wired up'

    Prior to the debate, the trump campaign requested both candidates be inspected.

    Kind of the same way a UFC fighter is inspected before a fight to make sure they are following the rules and are not cheating.

    The trump campaign was particularly concerned about a possible hearing device which could potentially feed Biden his talking points.

    The Biden campaign laughed it off, refused, and the show went on.

    Now It is no secret Joe Biden's cognitive ability has been called into question leading up to the debate…

    And I would say rightfully so in my opinion… Biden has said some really off the wall things like that he was a member of the senate for 180 years…

    So did Joe Biden cheat during the first presidential debate? That is not for me to decide, but there seems to be justification for an investigation.

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    Kind of says it all. If these are world leaders, it's a wonder we haven't blown ourselves to smithereens long since...
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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Questions before hand :check:

    Ear piece with live guidance :check:

    Q was right again.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Mark Bowden is one of four behavior experts from BodyLanguageTactics.com & The Behavior Panel (YouTube).

    Trump vs. Biden: Body language expert breaks down first debate (11 min.)
    Vashi Capello of CBC News - If you were to offer one piece of advice to each of Donald Trump and Joe Biden where it concerns the way in which they express themselves what would it be?

    Mark Bowden - You need to set up a structure where they're going to be more controllable and therefore I might get them sitting in a more conciliatory way. Something where they can work together a little bit better rather than in opposition. And I might well get the moderator standing so that a moderator has more physical control of the situation and may be able to actually moderate them better.

    These are called debates but they’re never really debates. We’re looking for a fight and an argument no matter how much we say afterwards well that was a bit extreme. We are looking for some entertainment here. But we do need the entertainment moderated and you need a system that will work for these characters and keep them in some kind of boundary.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

    Having listened with fresh ears and taking in a variety post-debate videos and articles, I am changing my opinion. I have no doubt now that Trump's performance was tactical. Team Trump know that Biden could not handle a 90 minute debate without help (in other words cheating). I think that probably did happen, because what we saw from Biden was not in the least bit consistent with his fumbling and stumbling over the last few months. Either he was heavily drugged up for this, or he was being assisted with secret comms (or maybe both). So Trump loudly interrupting was by design – not simply to throw Biden off script, but to speak over and blot out the audio feed in his ear. Genius if true.

    As for Wallace, allegedly a registered democrat, he was there purely to prop up Joe through the bombardment of Trump fact bombs. He was very very soft on Biden. Where he spent a deal of time going after Trump, like on his tax returns, he entirely ignored the multiple scandals surrounding Joe.

    -Why didn't he ask Joe a single question about Hillary's Russia collusion hoax (coup)?
    -Why didn't he press him on his recommendation of the Logan act?
    -Why didn't he ask for clarification on exactly what Hunter was doing in Ukraine?
    -Why, neither, did he not ask for clarification on the Green New Deal, which Biden's campaign website supports yet from Joe's from own lips he does not?
    -Why didn't he ask for an explanation as to why Joe called US troops stupid bastards?
    -Why didn't he ask him to disavow Antifa for their actions?
    -Why no questions about his questionable health?
    -Why no push for an answer, when asked by Trump, on how many law enforcements agencies actually endorsed him?

    It's true, Trump interrupted Biden a lot, but as I speculate, that was a deliberate tactic. The point is, Wallace was there to shield Joe and run interference. At that he did an excellent job, like the swamp hack that he is. In fact, the one who did the most interrupting on the night was Wallace himself, apparently interrupting Trump 76 times to Biden's 15.

    For most of the night it was basically this:



    As for Trump being a "bully" for interrupting constantly, just take note, firstly the aforementioned tactic being used, but also that this is par for the course in a political debate. Here is Joe interrupting Paul Ryan during the VP debate in 2012. The only difference here is that Biden doesn't get chewed out by the moderator for doing so.



    I don't think however that Trump came off as well as he could. As others have pointed out, he allowed himself to get too easily flustered, and didn't properly follow through on his points. Although that was because very often swamp Wallace didn't allow him to.

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    Get the moderator 'the hell out of there, and let Trump and Biden really slug it out':


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    Former Speaker of the House Bronwyn Bishop says Joe Biden was "rescued" by the moderator every time Donald Trump wanted to bring up a big point.

    “(Trump) was also debating the moderator,” she said.

    “Because the moderator, when Joe Biden said, ‘I forgot the question’, the moderator gave him the question.

    “Get the moderator the hell out of there, and let them really slug it out in a proper debate.

    “Not Joe Biden being rescued every time Donald Trump wanted to bring up a big point.”
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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

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    Get the moderator 'the hell out of there, and let Trump and Biden really slug it out':
    Best would be two independent half-hour interviews in separate rooms, with the same or similar questions, each candidate blind to the replies of the other... then presented straight afterwards on a split screen.

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    Most pro-Biden comments/reactions on that twitter post from cspan claim to better "trust the real (professional) polls" ... yeah like what happened in 2016 for sure! lol

    To me: 325,530 c-span twitter-follower votes is impressive by any standard, but nothing is fixed nor conclusive ... just (one of many) indicators!

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    Two members from ’The Five’ watched the debate a second time. Fresh eyes helped to round out their perspectives.
    • @ 3:28 - Jesse shared advice for Trump that was spot on.
    • @ 5:51 - Dana watched it live and the next day listened and read the transcript.

    Gutfeld on last night's debate (10 min)




    Dan Bongino did a good job of breaking down the Trump strategy. It was worth a listen for 3/4 of the show. Insightful, but he needs to streamline the talking points. Too much repetition.

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    Default Re: Trump-Biden Presidential Debate 2020, moderated by Chris Wallace

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    Get the moderator 'the hell out of there, and let Trump and Biden really slug it out':
    Best would be two independent half-hour interviews in separate rooms, with the same or similar questions, each candidate blind to the replies of the other... then presented straight afterwards on a split screen.
    I don't like it, it wouldn't be a debate that way, just an interview in comfy isolation and there are plenty of those already. They really need to confront each other, cross-examine each other, respond to each other, and answer tough questions/challenges from each other to show they can orate (and answer) on the fly and under a microscope. I believe we should have that for candidates in this country too.
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