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    The news of the death of the Instagram "influencer" and Covid denier, Dimitry Stuzhuk who died from Covid recently made me think about how many deaths from Covid I had seen in the press/media of people who had been vocally calling foul of the whole Coronavirus narrative.

    I decided to do a little digging, light digging to be fair and I am sure there are many more layers to these individual stories lurking beneath the surface.

    Two things I have learned, denying the official narrative too loudly seems to attract the virus and secondly double this if you are a person of the cloth...

    (In no particular order...)

    Quote Oct 2020 Dimitry Stuzhuk, an Instagram fitness influencer with over 1.1 million followers, died recently after a battle with complications of COVID-19. The 33-year-old social media star's ex-wife, Sofia Stuzhuk, announced his death in a heartbreaking Instagram post Saturday. Stuzhuk insisted the coronavirus was a hoax and did not need to be taken seriously, but he tested positive for the virus after a recent trip to Turkey.

    https://www.newsbreak.com/news/20844...virus-was-hoax
    Quote March 2020 Pastor Landon Spradlin (66) Virginia, USA - he posted on FB a “misleading post comparing swine flu and coronavirus deaths.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824
    Quote August 2020 Man who believed virus was hoax loses wife to Covid-19 Brian Lee Hitchens and his wife, Erin, had read claims online that the virus was fabricated, linked to 5G or similar to the flu. Erin was a Pastor.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53892856
    Quote July 2020 A 37-year-old Ohio man died from coronavirus after slamming 'hype' over pandemic on Facebook Richard "Rick" Rose, a 37-year-old man from Port Clinton, Ohio, Rose's death has attracted attention online due to his Facebook posts, in which he expressed doubt about coronavirus safety directives.

    https://www.insider.com/ohio-man-vet...k-posts-2020-7
    Quote July 2020 14 in Texas family test positive for coronavirus after small gathering, 1 dies
    Tony Green, who lives in Dallas and hosted the small gathering, has described himself as a former COVID-19 denier. "I admit I voted for Donald Trump in 2016. I admit traveling deep into the conspiracy trap over COVID-19," Green wrote.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ing-1-n1234980
    Quote A 30-year-old man died of coronavirus in Texas this week after attending a so-called "Covid party".
    Dr Jane Appleby, chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital in San Antonio, said that the unidentified man’s last words were: “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it's not.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...a9614231.html\
    Quote March 2020 COVID-19 Denier Dies of Coronavirus After Calling Stay-At-Home Orders 'Bulls---t' McDaniel, who called Ohio's lockdown 'bull****,' tested positive for COVID-19 in late March. A 60-year-old Ohio man, who called the coronavirus pandemic a 'political ploy,' has died of COVID-19.

    https://www.newsbreak.com/news/15511...orders-bulls-t
    Quote July 2020 Tuscaloosa man dies of COVID-19, family says he refused to wear mask
    Amy and Tyler Hinton say their father, Joe Hinton (78), thought COVID-19 was a hoax and didn't believe in wearing masks.
    "He did not want to wear a mask, he did not think that it was a very big deal. He thought, like a lot of people, that it was being blown out of proportion," Amy said about her father.

    https://abc3340.com/news/coronavirus...d-to-wear-mask
    Quote June 2020 51-year-old who posted regret about going out died of coronavirus a day later
    Thomas Macias, a 51-year-old man from California, was being cautious in the early days of the coronavirus pandemic. Then when restrictions were lifted, he decided to go out, Macias's brother-in-law, Gus Lopez, told CBS News. He later said he regretted it, when he tested positive for COVID-19 after attending a party. 
    Macias wrote a poignant Facebook post about his regret, urging others to follow safety precautions and take the coronavirus pandemic seriously. One day after writing the post, he died, his family says. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-...navirus-party/
    Quote July 2020 Ohio veteran, 37, who went viral for refusing to wear a mask, died of COVID19
    An Ohio man who died due to complications from COVID-19 has drawn criticism for his staunch refusal to wear a mask earlier in the pandemic.
    Richard Rose III, an Army veteran who spent nine years in the United States Army according to his obituary, died on July 4. He was 37.
    Rose’s death gained notoriety on social media after expressing that he was “not buying a (expletive) mask” less than three months before his death.
    “I’ve made it this far by not buying into that damn hype,” he said in a post published April 28.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ed/5457283002/
    Quote July 2020 Coronavirus denier's house party 'leads to death of two family members'
    Donald Trump supporter and conspiracy theorist Tony Green (43) used to laugh at people for wearing masks before two of his family members died after contracting coronavirus
    Two relatives of a man who said the coronavirus pandemic is "an overblown media hoax" died after he invited them to his house party.
    Green is now warning others of the dangers of hosting parties or family gatherings.
    "Take a little bit of extra precaution," he said, recommending events be held outside if possible or in spacious place.
    "But if you're nervous about it, I don't say to don't be afraid of it, I think that you've got a reason to be afraid of it. I think maybe you should bow out this year."

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...leads-22849485
    Quote August 2020 Herman Cain was on a ventilator before he died from Covid-19, top aide says
    PUBLISHED TUE, AUG 4 2020
    Herman Cain attended Trump rally, wasn’t masked, wasn’t social distancing.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/herm...aide-says.html
    Quote September 2020 COVID-DENIER Conspiracy theorist Trump supporter Tony Tenpenny who dismissed coronavirus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by disease.
    A TRUMP-supporting politician who said coronavirus was a "socialist" hoax has been killed by the disease.
    Tony Tenpenny, 57, a former councillor from Nashville, who had said the pandemic was part of a "socialist agenda" and had been over-exaggerated, died over the weekend as a result of complications from COVID-19.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/1524290...t-hoax-killed/

    Quote April 2020 Texas woman calls COVID-19 a hoax. She is now dead from her willful ignorance.
    “MAGA”: Karen Kolb Sehlke, a Trump-loving woman from Texas is dead from COVID-19 after claiming the virus was a “media driven” hoax.
    In a sad, cautionary tale of willful ignorance and hubris, Karen Kolb Sehlke is dead from COVID-19 after claiming the virus was a “media driven” hoax “controlled by the radical people in powerful places.”
    In a long-winded Facebook rant Sehlke claimed that “our government is under attack from within” while comparing the coronavirus to “the impeachment hoax” and arguing that those who take the current pandemic seriously “panic like sheep.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...lful-ignorance
    Quote May 2020 Pastor Who Claimed He Cured Coronavirus With Faith Dies From Illness
    A Cameroonian pastor and politician who claimed to have cured COVID-19 through faith has died from complications with the virus.
    Pastor dies from COVID-19 — after claiming coronavirus was a ‘mark of the beast’ conspiracy.

    https://www.complex.com/life/2020/05...s-from-illness
    Quote March 2020 Pastor dies from COVID-19 — after claiming coronavirus was a ‘mark of the beast’ conspiracy
    Pastor Ronnie Hampton of the New Vision Community Church in Shreveport, Louisiana, has died of COVID-19 — after telling his followers that the virus was not a huge deal and suggesting that God was just testing the faithful.
    “This virus that is out now, look at what it’s doing,” he said in a Facebook Live broadcast one week before his death on Wednesday. “It’s shutting down everything, which means that the physical connection of Christians is being ripped apart. We’re not able to fellowship. We’re not able to love each other.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/pas...st-conspiracy/
    Quote April 2020 Pastor dies from COVID-19 just weeks after proclaiming 'God is larger than this virus'
    A pastor from Richmond, Virginia, Bishop Gerald Glenn, has died on Easter Weekend from Covid-19 complications after proclaiming 'god is larger than this dreaded virus.'
    Pastor Who Defied Social Distancing Dies After Contracting Covid-19, Church Says.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ded-virus.html
    Quote April 2020 An evangelical bishop has died of COVID-19 in Chile after presiding over a service attended by hundreds of people, as criticism mounts against those keeping churches open.
    Mario Salfate, 67, died late Tuesday in a Santiago hospital after being admitted on March 23 "when he tested positive for COVID-19," hospital officials said.
    A week earlier the pastor had presided over a service that drew around 300 people to his church in Paine, outside Santiago.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/pastor-die...4306--spt.html
    Quote April 2020 A pastor whose church service has been blamed for sparking a huge wave of Covid-19 infections in France apologised today as countries across Europe continued to struggle to slow the rising death toll from the disease.
    Thiebault Geyer said he wanted to say “sorry to God for my selfishness” after officials confirmed that around 2,500 of his parishioners have contracted coronavirus.
    Pastor Geyer admitted he had not taken its threat seriously enough. “I would like to apologise,” he said. “Sorry to have taken this crisis lightly. Sorry to have read all the articles which tried to alert us. I couldn’t listen. I’m sorry to God for my selfishness.”

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-a4403826.html

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    Default Re: Covid Deniers...the ultimate irony or...?

    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    ...denying the official narrative too loudly seems to attract the virus...
    No, it just attracts publicity and those wanting make a story out of it.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    ...denying the official narrative too loudly seems to attract the virus...
    No, it just attracts publicity and those wanting make a story out of it.

    It is publicity, yes, but it is publicity which does much to bolster the official 'fear driven' Covid narrative, and as we know this narrative to be now broken, an examination is perhaps warranted of all 'publicity' (propaganda?) that conveniently and neatly supported that agenda and spread that fear.

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    It's all part of the PLAN. If you deny it, then they'll spray your area via the chemtrail planes. Ever notice the really low flying planes over your neighborhoods?

    They hated that Trump didn't fall for it, so they got back at him (and his family and staff). And now are labeling him the "superspreader". IMO the virus is being spread with an aerosol or is on a cloth and wiped where the most ppl touch. I suspect Trump contracted it at the first debate. Funny, how nobody except Trump and the wife caught it, but Wallace or the Bidens didn't.

    Yet, all the rioters are running rampant all over the place, not following any of the CDC guidelines. Any of them turning up sick??? At least Lamestream isn't reporting it. I guess the "herd immunity" is working out for them. What's good for the goose and all that....

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    Oh yeah, and the only way a second wave can happen is when they make it happen. (Premeditated and all that, too).
    It's all in the PLAN....

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    I think I qualify as covid denier.
    OK, I am not sure this belongs here but I do not see a section " individiual covid stories" so here goes:
    with 67 I had a severe flu last year in november, possibly the worst ever, lasting 14 days and with 3 days of very high fever in the 41C range. That was unusual and all I had to fight it was vitamin C.
    Obviously I survived. I later found out when I did a comprehensive checkup that I was very deficient in Vitamin D and took up to use it with 60.000 IU / week.
    6 weeks ago I had a LIGHT flu lasting 10 days with max. 38C fever and because of the covid scare I also took zinc 100mg/day and 2x200mg hydroxychloroquine as preventive measure.
    few days ago I did an antibody test that was positive.
    I am a vegetarian but otherwise do not live particularly healthy, no yoga or exercise, a lot of slightly scary fumes around me when i work in a vehicle workshop.
    so what gives?
    why do some die and others are unaffected?

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    GOBA I have a very similar story. When I got the flu, whatever it was. I was never scared. not one bit. Just real sick

    not sure what it was, doesnt matter to me. i have been sick from many other Flus before, this was just another
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    Yes I agree, the number of reported deaths of reported CV deniers appears way out of proportion to the ridiculously low death rates for those under 70 years of age without comorbidities which is .05% of the population.

    The MSM's coverage of these deaths appears to be just another part of the social engineering agenda...

    Great investigative work by the way.

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    The covid deniers who died: Did anyone in their family die or get deathly ill? If not, then why not? Isn't covid a highly contagious and deadly disease?

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    Quote Posted by Goba (here)
    I think I qualify as covid denier.
    OK, I am not sure this belongs here but I do not see a section " individiual covid stories" so here goes:
    with 67 I had a severe flu last year in november, possibly the worst ever, lasting 14 days and with 3 days of very high fever in the 41C range. That was unusual and all I had to fight it was vitamin C.
    Obviously I survived. I later found out when I did a comprehensive checkup that I was very deficient in Vitamin D and took up to use it with 60.000 IU / week.
    6 weeks ago I had a LIGHT flu lasting 10 days with max. 38C fever and because of the covid scare I also took zinc 100mg/day and 2x200mg hydroxychloroquine as preventive measure.
    few days ago I did an antibody test that was positive.
    I am a vegetarian but otherwise do not live particularly healthy, no yoga or exercise, a lot of slightly scary fumes around me when i work in a vehicle workshop.
    so what gives?
    why do some die and others are unaffected?
    There is a thread of possible covid stories by members who may have had covid here, Goba, If you would like to read it and add your story.
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Quote Posted by Goba (here)
    I think I qualify as covid denier.
    OK, I am not sure this belongs here but I do not see a section " individiual covid stories" so here goes:
    with 67 I had a severe flu last year in november, possibly the worst ever, lasting 14 days and with 3 days of very high fever in the 41C range. That was unusual and all I had to fight it was vitamin C.
    Obviously I survived. I later found out when I did a comprehensive checkup that I was very deficient in Vitamin D and took up to use it with 60.000 IU / week.
    6 weeks ago I had a LIGHT flu lasting 10 days with max. 38C fever and because of the covid scare I also took zinc 100mg/day and 2x200mg hydroxychloroquine as preventive measure.
    few days ago I did an antibody test that was positive.
    I am a vegetarian but otherwise do not live particularly healthy, no yoga or exercise, a lot of slightly scary fumes around me when i work in a vehicle workshop.
    so what gives?
    why do some die and others are unaffected?
    The next few months are going to be particularly interesting and confusing.
    Never before in the history of the human race will we be so conscious of and
    deliberately trying to suppress the coughs and sneezes from our colds and flu's
    as we will this winter season.

    God forbid someone thinks my cold/flu cough/sneeze is really a Covid cough/sneeze!
    It's going to be fear on steroids.

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    [QUOTE/] The next few months are going to be particularly interesting and confusing.
    Never before in the history of the human race will we be so conscious of and
    deliberately trying to suppress the coughs and sneezes from our colds and flu's
    as we will this winter season.

    God forbid someone thinks my cold/flu cough/sneeze is really a Covid cough/sneeze!
    It's going to be fear on steroids.[/QUOTE]




    ..Yeah - what a shame - when in reality there is NOTHING to fear.

    It is Amazing we could do that for a virus that has never been isolated nor proven pathogenic.

    Just Amazing....

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    Comoon people... I try to respect all opinnions, but the truth is that we are talking PANDEMIA which has effected MILLIONS. Ofc there are ****loads of deniers among those. And yes, it can be deadly for anyone, but that is BECAUSE it IS dangerous VIRUS for some. I also believe in some marginal conspiracy theories, but to say that Covid-19 is not dangerous or that it is tailored to slay just certain people is not one of those things. Here in Finland we have been very OK because we have been keeping the distances (comes quite naturally from us) and also as our government did a good job when reacting immediatly to the situation with extreme measures (like locking down our capital area where the epidemia started to spread first). The problems have risen more after people have stopped to respect the situation and started to continue living life like ”it’s the old normal and it’s just a flu”... The situation will be dealt when a proper vaccination is finished (dunno though if it ever happens?) and widely used. Until that, please try to respect atleast other people’s health by wearing masks and avoiding large crowds. Peace and love.
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    Quote Posted by Arak (here)
    Comoon people... I try to respect all opinnions, but the truth is that we are talking PANDEMIA which has effected MILLIONS. Ofc there are ****loads of deniers among those. And yes, it can be deadly for anyone, but that is BECAUSE it IS dangerous VIRUS for some. I also believe in some marginal conspiracy theories, but to say that Covid-19 is not dangerous or that it is tailored to slay just certain people is not one of those things. Here in Finland we have been very OK because we have been keeping the distances (comes quite naturally from us) and also as our government did a good job when reacting immediatly to the situation with extreme measures (like locking down our capital area where the epidemia started to spread first). The problems have risen more after people have stopped to respect the situation and started to continue living life like ”it’s the old normal and it’s just a flu”... The situation will be dealt when a proper vaccination is finished (dunno though if it ever happens?) and widely used. Until that, please try to respect atleast other people’s health by wearing masks and avoiding large crowds. Peace and love.
    How many people do you know who have died from covid? Or are you believing the govt statistics? For a pandemic, this is a pretty invisible one.

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    Quote Posted by Arak (here)
    Comoon people... I try to respect all opinnions, but the truth is that we are talking PANDEMIA which has effected MILLIONS. Ofc there are ****loads of deniers among those. And yes, it can be deadly for anyone, but that is BECAUSE it IS dangerous VIRUS for some. I also believe in some marginal conspiracy theories, but to say that Covid-19 is not dangerous or that it is tailored to slay just certain people is not one of those things. Here in Finland we have been very OK because we have been keeping the distances (comes quite naturally from us) and also as our government did a good job when reacting immediatly to the situation with extreme measures (like locking down our capital area where the epidemia started to spread first). The problems have risen more after people have stopped to respect the situation and started to continue living life like ”it’s the old normal and it’s just a flu”... The situation will be dealt when a proper vaccination is finished (dunno though if it ever happens?) and widely used. Until that, please try to respect atleast other people’s health by wearing masks and avoiding large crowds. Peace and love.
    I wish you well in your wait for a vaccine, would you really let them inject that crap into you?

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    Quote Posted by Arak (here)
    Comoon people... I try to respect all opinnions, but the truth is that we are talking PANDEMIA which has effected MILLIONS. Ofc there are ****loads of deniers among those. And yes, it can be deadly for anyone, but that is BECAUSE it IS dangerous VIRUS for some. I also believe in some marginal conspiracy theories, but to say that Covid-19 is not dangerous or that it is tailored to slay just certain people is not one of those things. Here in Finland we have been very OK because we have been keeping the distances (comes quite naturally from us) and also as our government did a good job when reacting immediatly to the situation with extreme measures (like locking down our capital area where the epidemia started to spread first). The problems have risen more after people have stopped to respect the situation and started to continue living life like ”it’s the old normal and it’s just a flu”... The situation will be dealt when a proper vaccination is finished (dunno though if it ever happens?) and widely used. Until that, please try to respect atleast other people’s health by wearing masks and avoiding large crowds. Peace and love.
    Repeating the inaccurate MSM narratives is exponentially more harmful then what you are trying to prevent. I sincerely wish you nothing but peace/love and pray that sometime in the near future you will take the time to do your homework. You may be surprised with your conclusions once you actually put in the work.



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    Default Re: Covid Deniers...the ultimate irony or...?

    We seem to be continually falling into the trap of Covid denier or believer. But it's not a black and white issue.

    I sense , feel and intuit, that there is something not right with this story, this so called pandemic. Yet I am not denying there is a contagious virus.

    My reasons for my suspicions. ,

    I just don't see it. I hear about it, but don't see it. All my homeless, drifters in my town , all fine. All friends family and extended, my guess 1000 people at minimum, nothing. All celebs young and old, no major news like a Clint Eastwood and the like . Have I heard of a death? yes but then again was I counting deaths every year from the flu etc? NO
    Election year with a President that is under more assault to get rid of him from day 1 than any other in my lifetime.
    Who benefits getting rid of Trump? How about EVERYONE in the game of Politics and
    business as usual. ? CHINA. RUSSIA, N KOREA, IRAN and so on.
    Our MIComplex who thrive on war , and the Dems who want a globalization , no borders, cheap labor, illegals and people hooked to the government dole .

    And lastly The Fixed Numbers WHY if its legit

    If the story is real, a real Pandemic, then the death count should be honest and verifiable separate from yearly fu and pneumonia and the many different drugs and solutions should be welcomed. Aren't we trying to fight for all our lives?? NO

    Follow the money, the corruption and the push fo a vaccine that my Alphabet agency friend said , they're wont be one. It's a cold virus.

    and lastly, should I , a family member or friend succumb to a covid related death, there is nothing I said here I would change because I am not denying its reality.

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    Default Re: Covid Deniers...the ultimate irony or...?

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    We seem to be continually falling into the trap of Covid denier or believer. But it's not a black and white issue.
    Agreed. There's a lot of grey area in my mind.

    I know people who've caught covid and I believe that it was covid and not the ordinary flu. However, I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination by any means to suggest that many (but not all) deaths are being misrepresented to fit a particular agenda. And I don't mean illuminati/take over the world/forced vaccinations/whatever agenda, I mean kickbacks for the hospitals and doctors. Also several months ago local testing sites were caught by locals in my area for reporting people as testing positive when they never showed up for testing (results were phoned in). I don't believe these instances were miscommunications but flat out bull****.

    I suppose the picture will be much more clear 5 years or so from now. I dunno.

    For me, I believe that covid is very real. How dangerous is it? I dunno. How deadly is it? I dunno. Will I take the vaccine? No.

    I wear a mask by choice because it's not much to ask and I try to be accommodating to my fellow man.
    That's life, and I can't deny it
    Many times I thought of cuttin' out but my heart won't buy it

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    Default Re: Covid Deniers...the ultimate irony or...?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    ...denying the official narrative too loudly seems to attract the virus...
    No, it just attracts publicity and those wanting make a story out of it.

    I would also say: had the normal flu received media attention like covid19 a similar story would have evolved. Covid denier does not mean we deny the existence of a virus of the corona family that would be stupid, the denial extends to the mostly faked numbers and the obvious agenda re: population control. Anyone overlooking these manipulations that have come to light during the last few month and therefor giving this virus more attention aka fear than the seasonal flu should rethink his position IMO.
    If anyone had done a "flu party" with many people in attendance one very likely would have died - and this "health influencer" that died only shows what steroids do for your health LOL.

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    Default Re: Covid Deniers...the ultimate irony or...?

    Goba: I’m not referring to you in my following message or people who distrust “the numbers”. In reality, the numbers are always inaccurate because they’re “moving numbers”.
    Medical reporting is as volatile as it can get in the long chain and queue of patients and medical professionals.

    But there are true “deniers” out there -based on their limited education and experience in that area, namely in live sciences. Some of them are technocrats, others portray themselves as “spiritually inclined” with inner vision of how everything really is: in most cases their vision is of far greater disaster awaiting humanity but most of them are the “chosen”, the righteous who will drive through the storm smartly.
    Got it? The idea is that if you’re righteous human being, superior to all life in the planet the virus can’t take you down. The proof ? Some of them will be around after the epidemics is over. Granted

    They’re very difficult people to talk to. Hard nuts. The people I’ve been through on my recent trip over the globe were in that basket.

    People will deny possibly anything that does not fit to their narrative. If there was no epidemics AT ALL, some of them would swear there is a secret virus infecting humanity with nanobots, years ago, not even recently.
    After the epidemics was announced some started to work rapidly on spreading the news about 5G and depopulation agenda.

    Others will lock themselves at home but will insist that Covid or anything else out there is actually harmless.
    If they tested positive by any chance, it would be “false positive”.

    Many people can not shun “magical thinking” till the end of their days. Yes we have inherited “magical thinking” from our ancestors.
    Before microscope was ever invented and bacteria and viruses discovered most of infectious diseases were looked upon as “bad magic” or punishment for our sins.

    It’s difficult to explain to those people that even today’s religions won’t agree with them but they know better because they think they’re digging deeper under the layers.
    It’s where too much education becomes “distraction” to them.

    The rest does not really play a huge role. The same people deny thousands of other life facts, big and small.
    Just beware not to get unwell in their presence because either “they can fix it” or it’s a life disaster and the victim should rethink ..purpose of their existence.

    Normally in life I do not go through such people frequently or make friends with them because we would inevitably run to an argument.
    Because they are quite blind to some facts or motions and no, they don’t understand why some of their habits aren’t acceptable.

    They do live and talk from an abstract certainty the society granted to them at some point without prejudice. Certainty about being “healthy” and “mentally fit” or even “professionally apt” without check.

    As if I said nothing. Yes Covid 19 is another virus causing pneumonia and other symptoms in short and long run people can occasionally die for because we don’t have strong immune reaction against it being novel Coronavirus.

    No it’s better than plaque or ebola.

    It’s different from “flu” and the reaction anyone may have towards it is not calculable because we are biologically, uniquely shaped beings.
    The virus is times more simple than any humanoid.

    It’s not a “magic”. It’s a pest, a nuisance at the best


    People trained in real meditation absorption can probably detect when “magical thinking” arises in us and mind starts naturally fabricating ideas about possible scenarios.
    Magical thinking is an active part of many psychotic diseases, unfortunately making people feel they’re on target for whatever including “being too smart”.

    Most of those affected can not hold peacefully till the situation subsided but feel they need to “fix it” or drive everyone crazy.

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