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    watching now ...

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    Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS!

    Trump Walks Out Of 60 Minutes Interview Accusing Network Of Bias, SLAMS Journalist For No Mask:

    ⚠️ Big chance Trump asked a counter-question if they are not wearing a mask to show their HYPOCRISY being sarcastic then walked away.
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    Trump destroyed.... change my mind (haha)

    seriously.. am I wrong?

    Joe seemed to hint and flirt with dementia a few times as well... I mean vastly more than trump (I saw zero loss of conversation flow, zero lack of vocabulary control, etc... as a comparison)
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    What makes me nervous...do a lot of the dumbed down, poorly educated people see Biden as a more "presidential" candidate than Trump is?

    Tonight Trump talked about issues more than Biden. Biden spoke more like a politician with false promises. So does that net Biden votes?

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    Around 2/3ds of the way through Biden said this and did not correct him self:

    "I'll be POTUS, not VPOTUS, with in 100 days I will send to congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people"

    I KNOW he did not mean what the implication of that statement is (that he will nationalize 11 million illegal aliens outside of our very well scrutinized immigration process) but we have to think about this.... This is an EXTREMELY important time for him and the fact that he would say that and not correct himself could cause extreme consequences when negotiating with foreign nations were he to be elected.
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    40 years as a trained public speaking politician gave Biden the edge imo and sadly he quickly recovered from his little "dementia" stumbles.  

    Was Biden reading from a script when he did his 2 minute answers? Seemed like it was pre-written and polished and he was reading.  Or perhaps he had memorised and rehearsed it to perfection before delivering.

    At any rate the politician v the business magnate was blindingly evident imo.  Problem is the false promises, untruthful claims and ability to appeal to emotions to sway the public, coming from Biden's acting skills, is how some will judge.

    I was a bit disappointed in Trump.  He kept clarity and calm but some of his responses could have been more targeted at citizens personally.  This is where Biden knows the ropes.  But kudos to Trump for pointing out the political rhetoric.

    Biden deflected from the evidence of personal enrichment from China by claiming Trump has taken money from China and Russia followed straight up with a knockout blow that he has submitted tax returns and Trump hasn't because he is hiding something.

    Trump couldn't defend much because he hasn't submitted tax returns.  WTF is up with that?  Biden's strategists cleverly dodged and manipulated that one.  Which is why I think Biden had the edge even though Trump pushed Biden to explain the money his family have received.

    Looking forward to other thoughts.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS!
    I'm not surprised that Leslie Stahl was terrible in this interview. This is one more twig on a huge pile that demonstrates how the media positions the viewers as uninformed.
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    Well first off, what in the heck do they have Biden on, to keep him so on track without devolving into bumbling about?

    Aside from that, I saw two empty vessels up there scrounging around to say anything, and everything, that they and their handlers feel might garner them the most last minute votes. They both did a great job at deflecting from their own personal dishonesty, and I don't believe one single promise either one of them made. Both IMO will be puppets to higher powers if elected.

    However, it was most entertaining and that's mostly what I watch these things for. Keeping an eye on them, and the entertainment factor of watching them tapdance hat in hand trying to get my vote.
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    Got through 2/3 of it before I went to bed (was early hours of morning here), but I agree with previous comments. For casual observers Joe came off the better candidate. However, to the more discerning eye and ear he did so because he's a professional politician who had every RunProgram{Rhetoric.Lies} response lined up and ready to go. Even when confronted with scandals and wrong-doings, he waved it away with the default {Scoff.Chuckle}.

    Trump's greatest problem is that he has 15 lines of thought all happening at the same time, all overlapping, knocking each other out the way, and he often fails to follow through properly and make a salient point. He doesn't come across very well as a speaker.

    Of course the moderator was once again soft on Joe. It might be imagination but I don't think so, but Joe was given more frequent opportunities to respond. When it was Trump's turn she she cut him off repeatedly.
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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    Was Biden reading from a script when he did his 2 minute answers? Seemed like it was pre-written and polished and he was reading.  Or perhaps he had memorised and rehearsed it to perfection before delivering.
    Common theory is that he has an ear piece, there's some pictures of previous interviews / town halls that lend a bit of credibility, but no "smoking gun" so far.


    Last Night Joe aid he will lead a transition off of oil, that will cost him a lot of votes
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    Trump Just ENDED Biden In Last Night's Debate, Biden ADMITTED To Ending Oil, Its Over, Biden Is Over:

    Trump Strikes Back! 📡
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    A politician's hold on power is consistent with, and wholly enabled by, the amnesia of the general population.

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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    A politician's hold on power is consistent with, and wholly enabled by, the amnesia of the general population.

    ahh, but your too kind.

    A (harsher) more accurate way to say that is:

    Quote .. wholly enabled and encouraged by the general populations intellectual lazyness.
    Amnesia is not controllable, being lazy is... don't give the populous so much credit.
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    Tonight Trump talked about issues more than Biden. Biden spoke more like a politician with false promises. So does that net Biden votes?
    Any thought why the chosen politicians are over 70?
    Trump 74 years old
    Biden on November 20 78, do you think they can have their heads at this age?
    There is one thing that is clear in all of the history of American elections, the majority of presidents have been elected twice.
    Does that mean Trump has a chance to become president for the second time?

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    Quote Posted by Lunesoleil (here)
    Tonight Trump talked about issues more than Biden. Biden spoke more like a politician with false promises. So does that net Biden votes?
    Any thought why the chosen politicians are over 70?
    Trump 74 years old
    Biden on November 20 78, do you think they can have their heads at this age?[/quote]

    My grandfather is as articulate as I am at 98 (though a bit dated on his data based references).

    Your comment is focused on what someone "IS" not what someone "does", this is a bad habit and will not do you justice.


    Quote Posted by Lunesoleil (here)
    There is one thing that is clear in all of the history of American elections, the majority of presidents have been elected twice.
    Does that mean Trump has a chance to become president for the second time?
    Trump will win, there is no question; if you doubt that you need to re-evaluate your information sources and biases because you believe exactly what the MSM wants you to, you are following the narrative that is supported by the controlling information sources and that is extremely detrimental to your understanding of reality; though it is a very attractive trap.

    Here's an interesting (very biased in attitude, but everything is factual) take on the last debate and how DEVASTATING it was for Biden:
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    There is one thing that is clear in all of the history of American elections, the majority of presidents have been elected twice.
    Does that mean Trump has a chance to become president for the second time?
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Trump will win, there is no question; if you doubt that you need to re-evaluate your information sources and biases because you believe exactly what the MSM wants you to, you are following the narrative that is supported by the controlling information sources and that is extremely detrimental to your understanding of reality; though it is a very attractive trap.

    Here's an interesting (very biased in attitude, but everything is factual) take on the last debate and how DEVASTATING it was for Biden:
    I saw nothing DEVASTING there, what I saw was pretty much a draw; but then again I don't have a horse in this race so that's a whole different way of judging than Steven Crowder and the boys watching it.

    It's like in any sporting match, you don't want the referees calling the game being big fans of either team, because that bias WILL enter the equation.

    Now this ongoing thing about all the polls are fake. 4 years ago they were within the margin of error of the actual final count, so is the general sentiment amongst strong Trump supporters that it's just this go around where the whole polling process is nothing but smoke and mirrors? Or do y'all contend that they were all fake in the run up to 2016 as well?
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    I feel like this is very biased, but still I appreciate the skill and art of it (I honestly adore all of their work, political bias aside).


    For example, they lightly brushed off Biden's obsession with young girls, they said Biden doesn't want to defund police (he's said several times he would), they implied trump will remove Roe v Wade... They added in Russian hints etc... This is exactly the type of manipulation the the "Shadow gate" documentary was talking about ,,, except it's organic. These are california liberals, they believe everything that MSM tells them and that really is the most important point,,, politics aside we NEED to dismantle this information distribution system or at the very least destroy the ability for them all to lockstep try and hypnotize us.


    humans are so easily swayed that something like this great piece of creativity is corrupted.



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    Now this ongoing thing about all the polls are fake. 4 years ago they were within the margin of error of the actual final count, so is the general sentiment amongst strong Trump supporters that it's just this go around where the whole polling process is nothing but smoke and mirrors? Or do y'all contend that they were all fake in the run up to 2016 as well?
    Yep, This is the EXCACT point I'm trying to illustrate...

    Here is the NYT poll from 2016...


    CNN:


    The best lie is 80% truth (maybe thats why they didnt work as a manipulation technique)... and those polls were listed as Clintion DOMINATING.. info manipulation.
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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Now this ongoing thing about all the polls are fake. 4 years ago they were within the margin of error of the actual final count, so is the general sentiment amongst strong Trump supporters that it's just this go around where the whole polling process is nothing but smoke and mirrors? Or do y'all contend that they were all fake in the run up to 2016 as well?
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Yep, This is the EXCACT point I'm trying to illustrate...

    Here is the NYT poll from 2016...


    CNN:


    The best lie is 80% truth (maybe thats why they didnt work as a manipulation technique)... and those polls were listed as Clintion DOMINATING.. info manipulation.
    I don't recall any polls back then showing anywhere even near, the 90/10 - 80/20 range in favor of Hillary.

    Here's what was up at the end, which were very close to the actual results:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ational-polls/

    And of course the actual results:
    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/president

    I take it these are all in dispute?
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