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    Joe and Glen, together at last. The issues they discuss are as precise as they are poignant, and I implore everyone to listen. It is a good reminder that in the midst of Trumpism and anti-Trumpism, there are bigger issues at play. Consider this post an olive branch to Gracy, as she has had a hard time playing devil's advocate to much of the discussion around this election season. The machine is far greater and more vast than any of us would ordinararily care to think, thank goodness we are not in the company of ordinary people, here at PA.
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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    I hope i dont seem shallow or trite, but in todays world, i see a 3 hour interview, and already realize no answers will be offered and nothing will change, Im out

    Have you ever watched a show and actually documented the actionable info within?
    perhaps in a half hour show, maybe 5-7 minutes?

    in todays world , a new approach is needed in these interviews that carries true content in less time. of course, not good for money but...
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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

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    I hope i dont seem shallow or trite, but in todays world, i see a 3 hour interview, and already realize no answers will be offered and nothing will change, Im out

    Have you ever watched a show and actually documented the actionable info within?
    perhaps in a half hour show, maybe 5-7 minutes?

    in todays world , a new approach is needed in these interviews that carries true content in less time. of course, not good for money but...
    I bet you would enjoy it.
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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    P LAMA, I BET I WOULD. but my point made/

    BTW I wrote Glen Greenwald a letter of appreciation the other night for his appearance on Tucker

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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

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    P LAMA, I BET I WOULD. but my point made/

    BTW I wrote Glen Greenwald a letter of appreciation the other night for his appearance on Tucker
    Glenn Greenwald on Tucker Carlson (6:13 min)

    Oct 21, 2020

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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    I have to agree.
    Time is just too scarce and precious these days for me to listen that long to something unless it's really packed with info, such as here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1386027
    or here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1383779
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    I hope i dont seem shallow or trite, but in todays world, i see a 3 hour interview, and already realize no answers will be offered and nothing will change, Im out

    Have you ever watched a show and actually documented the actionable info within?
    perhaps in a half hour show, maybe 5-7 minutes?

    in todays world , a new approach is needed in these interviews that carries true content in less time. of course, not good for money but...
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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

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    I hope i dont seem shallow or trite, but in todays world, i see a 3 hour interview, and already realize no answers will be offered and nothing will change, Im out

    Have you ever watched a show and actually documented the actionable info within?
    perhaps in a half hour show, maybe 5-7 minutes?

    in todays world , a new approach is needed in these interviews that carries true content in less time. of course, not good for money but...
    I'm with you there, not having the luxury of not needing to earn a living plus other stuff to do means that long videos put me off too. However, I've recently discovered that you can alter playback speeds; 1.25 is easy to listen to, 1.5 is a bit more garbled but is fine if I pay close attention - though easy if it's a slow speaker. It makes a long video so much shorter!

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    barely upvoted post on r/conspiracy alledges around the 52min mark Greenwald states that the Hunter Biden laptop story from the NY Post is real. Listening now to hear it for myself.

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    I don't mind the long interviews, I listen to them on my phone while I am driving or walking outside.
    Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?

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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    An hour in, really enjoying the articulate, grounded exchange between these two guys. I am speeding it up. So happy they are not interrupting each other, a very refreshing integrity.

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    From 50min mark on:
    • Lack of denial from Biden campaign = authentic and its "****ing real"
    • Journalists historically haven't given 2 ****s on a sources/leakers intentions just as long as the content is sound
    • Greenwald has never been more disgusted with is colleagues in the avoidance of this story due to the fear of aiding Trump

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    thanks everyone and I truly get both sides. BTW I have a electronic reader, and I take articles and journals and load them in and listen prior to sleep.

    and to think the Greenwald interview is probably well worth it, and there are another thousand 3 hour interviews I will never hear.


    I just heard Glen Greenwald resigned from the Intercept!!!
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    Quote Posted by Salv8tion (here)
    barely upvoted post on r/conspiracy alledges around the 52min mark Greenwald states that the Hunter Biden laptop story from the NY Post is real. Listening now to hear it for myself.
    Thanks for this. Started there, very impressed. PurpleLama's nod to watch was spot on. Have to watch all of it now. It's not necessarily because of new information, it's the way the current information and dilemmas we face are discussed.

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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    Glenn Greenwald on resigning from his own publication due to censorship (7 min)
    Founder of the Intercept, Glenn Greenwald, joins 'Tucker Carlson Tonight'
    after resigning due to censorship from editorial staff.



    My Resignation From The Intercept

    Quote "...as long as The Intercept remained a place where my own right of journalistic independence was not being infringed, I could live with all of its other flaws. But now, not even that minimal but foundational right is being honored for my own journalism, suppressed by an increasingly authoritarian, fear-driven, repressive editorial team in New York bent on imposing their own ideological and partisan preferences on all writers while ensuring that nothing is published at The Intercept that contradicts their own narrow, homogenous ideological and partisan views: exactly what The Intercept, more than any other goal, was created to prevent."
    The same trends of repression, censorship and ideological homogeneity plaguing the national press generally have engulfed the media outlet I co-founded, culminating in censorship of my own articles.
    Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.

    The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.

    The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct. Not content to simply prevent publication of this article at the media outlet I co-founded, these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication.

    I had no objection to their disagreement with my views of what this Biden evidence shows: as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right, the way any confident and healthy media outlet would. But modern media outlets do not air dissent; they quash it. So censorship of my article, rather than engagement with it, was the path these Biden-supporting editors chose.

    The censored article will be published on this page shortly (it is now published here, and the emails with Intercept editors showing the censorship are here). My letter of intent to resign, which I sent this morning to First Look Media’s President Michael Bloom, is published below.
    [continued here]
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    Whodathunkit, journalistic integrity still exists in this world!

    I have read the letter and the article implicated in the resignation of Greenwald from the media enterprise the he co-founded, and while I may not agree with Greenwald on every specific policy point, the majority of his stance seems to reveal an interesting point: virtually everything that a liberal stood for 50 years ago has now been shoved over to the list of what now would be considered conservative values, that being first and foremost the values enshrined in the bill of rights.

    How ironic in this era of Newspeak, liberal values are conservative (even alt-right!) while conservatives seem intent on growing the fed.gov. to some great monstrosity. Those in power defy all labels, and so should we.

    Greenwald going to bat over the veracity of the HB laptop contraversy is surely getting the attention of many, many people who drank the blue koolaid. Unfortunately, the majority of those probably already mailed in their ballots for Biden, regardless of how they might be swayed by recent revelations.

    I hope to see a new type of media collective emerge, with the likes of Greenwald, Taibbi, Tracey, all leading the way without the editorial oversight that has so tainted the Intercept. Contracts are not enough, as this episode has more than adequately illustrated.
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    Here is some commentary from B over at MoonofAlabama:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/1...ept-.html#more
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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    I hope to see a new type of media collective emerge, with the likes of Greenwald, Taibbi, Tracey, all leading the way without the editorial oversight that has so tainted the Intercept.
    I not only expect a new type of media to emerge from this with Class A journalists like these guys leading the way, but also a massive backlash to cancel culture and venues like Twitter, opening the way for new public platforms to take the place of the old, as free speech becomes a thing of great value again.

    What I like about your short list above is that agree with them or not, they call things as they really are unlike the cheerleading for one side or the other of cable news, and they're married to a set of ideals and principles, not any given politician. If that "any given politician" starts governing differently than their rhetoric, they will call them out on the spot and give no quarter, no matter who they are or what party flag they fly.

    That's what journalism is supposed to be, investigative and adversarial of powers that be, not chummy chummy over drinks at who's who elite DC cocktail parties.

    By the way I would add Aaron Maté, founder of "The Grayzone", to that list.
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    Default Re: Journalistic Integrity Exists! Glenn Greenwald Resigns from The Intercept

    I know it is linked in Paula's post above, but here is a naked link to the story that the Intercept sought to supress:

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/art...biden-censored

    What is most amusing, to me, just like the Twitter/FB supression of the NYPost story that started all this, Greenwald's take will be seen now by soooo many more people than if the editors had just let it fly to begin with. I stopped paying attention to the Intercept a long while ago, regardless of the fact that I was very hopeful for it at its inception.
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