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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    I continue to read the REX situation analysis, and find it comforting, though I know better than to presume to understand what's really going on.

    read bottom up

    https://social.quodverum.com/@REX?mi...52544497220217

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    21. Right now, the fake President-elect and his deluded followers are living in a make believe world.

    A world they CHOSE.

    Liberal la la land.

    They can all keep playing 'Mr. Pretend President' all they like. But in the real world, their heroes are doomed.

    And The Storm approaches.

    As the remaining leftist sheep are about to learn, the hard way.

    Enjoy the show.

    #MAGA

    The end.

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    20. If Biden and his corrupt crew think that Biden conceding solves their future problems, they would be sorely mistaken.

    They have GONE TOO FAR.

    Trump's awful justice awaits them.

    And you can be certain that his revenge will be remembered for CENTURIES.

    Not just that. The American people will demand it.

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    19. Of course, we need to consider the unthinkable.

    That Sidney Powell is gaslighting and Trump hasn't got any evidence.

    Then it's all over.

    Biden wins.

    But because I am confident that Powell isn't gaslighting and Trump has all the evidence, I am zen.


    One more thing.

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    18. FakeNews can squawk all they like.

    BIG DEAL.

    Very few believe them.


    And it changes nothing, anyway. Rasmussen reports that 30% of DEMOCRATS think the election was rigged. Close to 100% of Republicans agree.

    FakeNews exist in a glittering hall of mirrors. They are irrelevant.

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    17. But even if Biden does NOT concede, no biggie.

    Trump will use his evidence to expose the crime in a way that cannot be credibly explained away.

    And arrests will start shortly thereafter.


    Street thugs? See National Guard, crush them, etc.

    Either way, Trump wins.

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    16. If Biden concedes, game over.

    SCOTUS may not be required. Trump is inaugurated. The damage to the Republic will be contained.

    I can't see street thugs protesting if Biden withdraws. If they do, the National Guard will crush them in minutes.

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    15. If Biden doesn't concede, Trump has many options.

    EVERYONE involved is at risk. Biden will be reminded of that.

    Trump can turn up the heat, as he controls the temperature control.

    If Biden doesn't concede, it will make him even more foolish and culpable as the crime is exposed.

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    14. I think Trump's ideal solution would be for Biden to concede and then slither away (likely after selling out everyone else).

    That means that someone is going to knock on Biden's door soon, to give him a dose of REALITY.

    One that makes it very clear that he and hundreds of others have been caught dead to rights. And that he MUST CONCEDE.

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    13. This means that Trump has likely amassed a MOUNTAIN of incriminating evidence, that he can use at will.

    A mountain that is growing, daily.

    For some reason, leftists & FakeNews always overlook a critical fact.

    Trump is POTUS. The most powerful person on the planet. And he has ALL his ducks in a row.

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    12. I would find it very difficult to believe that MULTIPLE T1 FISAs have not been issued against the crooks, for ages.

    If that's happened and the allegations are true, evidence implicating everyone involved has almost certainly been hoovered up.

    I note Powell has been referring to comms (eg a DoD officer instructing hundreds of Dem ops to sabotage their offices) that to me can only have come from surveillance.


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    11. It is therefore logical that each agent implicated in what's gone on has been flagged with a '2 hop' T1 FISA, for a long time.

    Or some other form of surveillance.


    There is nothing controversial about that conclusion, BTW. In fact, that is EXACTLY what the FISC and National Security Letters are for.

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    10. If what Sidney Powell is alleging is credible, this is one of the most serious national security situations America has ever faced.

    Foreign actors, working with American citizens, are trying to steal an American Presidential election.

    Unlike the Obama/Clinton Trump/Russia hoax, this one is REAL.

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    9. Again, let's not be distracted by the public drama. Trump has a very powerful PRIVATE option that everyone seems to have forgotten about.

    What would that be?

    Our old friend, the Title 1 FISA warrant.


    Consider.

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    8. If Trump wants SCOTUS to be the vehicle, I think he will want to make sure that any decision will be easy for the judges.

    He wants to PROTECT SCOTUS, not make it a target.

    That means that the criminals will have to be exposed and Biden may even concede, BEFORE any SCOTUS hearing.

    How does that happen?


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    7. Sure, a SCOTUS vindication may be the answer.

    We are seeing Obama judges blocking each Trump case. Doesn't matter.

    Sooner or later one of those cases will likely go to SCOTUS.

    SCOTUS will rule one way or the other.

    If they decide in Trump's favor, great. If not, that sucks.

    But it doesn't change the outcome.


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    6. Which takes us back to the original two questions (see toot 1).

    Again, I doubt that Trump wants to plunge America into yet more division.

    I think he wants to put a final end to this assault on the Presidency, Constitution & people as quickly as possible.

    The question is 'HOW'?


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    5. This narrative of a desperate Trump, losing legal cases while he sits in the Oval Office in denial, is exactly the opposite of what's happening.

    Think of a desperate and divided Democratic Party machine, TRAPPED. While Trump looks on in FURY.

    The Dems are in a terrible position. All they can do is to gaslight Biden to inauguration. But given Trump has them dead to rights, everything they do makes it worse for them.

    REX @REX@social.quodverum.com
    4. In my opinion, the Dems were lured onto their own killing field. Arrogant, drunk on power and poorly led, no one appears to have considered that Trump was onto them.

    On Nov 3, the one thing that they hadn't considered happened.

    A MASSIVE RED TSUNAMI.

    The Dems panicked. The mail in ballots exposed them. And revealed to everything else they were up to, including the horrendous digital fraud.

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    3. Trump has known about the Democrats vote fraud schemes for YEARS. There are tweets as far back as 2012.

    Ergo, he would have known he was target #1 in 2016, 2018 and of course in 2020.

    And he was prepared. Trump's 2018 EOs, CISA trap and infiltration into vote count centers is good evidence of that.

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    2. Everyone is focussing on the PUBLIC drama playing out 24/7, across America.

    In particular, the various legal actions being taken by Team Trump and others in different State and Federal courts.

    Fair enough. However, the analysis is wrong. It assumes the outcome is in doubt, when it is not.

    Readers of my threads already understand my position.

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    1. Will Trump win the 2020 election?

    WRONG QUESTION.

    Trump has already won the election.

    Correct question : HOW does he subjugate the enemy's will to resist?

    Follow-up qs - how does he do it, with the least possible damage to The Republic?


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    BLOCKBUSTER: Sidney Powell - I'm Going To Blow Up Georgia, "It will be BIBLICAL"


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    I was going to say " I don't want to throw cold water on all of this " but I do want to... we here at Avalon have had many let downs,.. 2012 end of the world, .. pole reversals,.. financial collapse .. interment camps .. millions of coffins stored ...all the fear porn you could swallow .. justice prevailing is just the opposite ..hope porn.. We will have to wait to see this play out . I will not hold my breath though ...I discern with this thought.. ....... Confirmation bias:

    Confirmation bias, the tendency to process information by looking for, or interpreting, information that is consistent with one's existing beliefs. This biased approach to decision making is largely unintentional and often results in ignoring inconsistent information.



    P.S. hope the people who went to the caves in the Ozarks in 2012 have figured it out......
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    Quote Posted by ramus (here)
    P.S. hope the people who when to the caves in the Ozarks in 2012 have figured it out......
    There was no evidence, no data whatsoever, to suggest the world was going to end in 2012. Only an old legend and internet scuttlebutt. So they were pretty foolish.

    This is quite different because here the data (the operative word) is overwhelming.

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    We will have to wait to see this play out .
    Yup!

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    I will not hold my breath though
    Me neither, and I never have.
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    RDS ON INDICTMENTS MEDIA TAKE-DOWN SUPREME COURT READY WORST CASE HOUSE ELECTS TRUMP BY 26/27


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    Putin Says He’s Not Ready To Recognize Biden As US President

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    It took China just over 10 days to congratulate Joe Biden after the mainstream media declared him winner of the Nov 3 election. On Nov 14, Wang Wenbin, a spokesman for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said at a daily news conference that “we express our congratulations to Mr. Biden and Ms. Harris,” adding that “we respect the choice of the American people.” China’s strategic delay was to not give the impression that it was rooting for the Biden administration, widely seen as pro-China (especially following recent disclosures of Beijing’s aggressive attempts to purchase Hunter Biden’s loyalty), thus making it difficult for Joe Biden to further pivot in a China-friendly direction.

    However, while China may now officially recognize Biden, Russia still does not.

    On Sunday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said while he’s ready to work with any U.S. leader, he still isn’t ready to recognize the election victory of Joe Biden.

    “We will work with anyone who has the confidence of the American people,” Putin said on Russian TV earlier today.

    “But that confidence can only be given to a candidate whose victory has been recognized by the opposing party, or after the results are confirmed in a legitimate, legal way.”

    Putin described the Kremlin’s decision not to congratulate Biden as “a formality” with no ulterior motives. And in an amusing twist, when asked if the move could damage U.S.-Russia relations, Putin said: “there’s nothing to damage, they’re already ruined.”

    A Kremlin spokesperson previously said Putin wouldn’t recognize Biden’s win until legal challenges mounted by President Trump’s campaign immediately after Election Day were resolved in court.

    Putin’s latest comments arrived shortly before it was confirmed on Sunday that the Trump administration had withdrawn from the Open Skies Treaty between the two nations. Reports of Trump’s plans to withdraw from the treaty first emerged in spring. The Trump administration withdrew from another arms treaty with Russia, the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, signed in 1987, in August.

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    Wow.


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    Star Mariner:

    The amount of corruption that exist is overwhelming ...for this to come to fruition is questionable ....

    There are those who would bet on Trump winning 7 days after the election:
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    Millions Are Still Being Bet on Trump’s 'Shocking' Overturn of Election Results by UK Gamblers

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    It earlier emerged that an anonymous British gambler has wagered $5 million on Donald Trump’s re-election shortly before the November vote. However, the US media has now pronounced Joe Biden a preliminary winner of the race based on the ballots counted so far.

    In the United Kingdom, where political betting is officially legal, millions of pounds are being bet on US President Donald Trump eventually throwing out election results with his legal challenges in key swing states, the Sun revealed.

    As such, US-based firm Betfair has witnessed £100-million wagers being gambled on the US election since 3 November. Despite calls from major US news outlets that Joe Biden is clearly on the way to get all necessary election votes to be declared the next US president, gamblers can still make a bet at Betfair at around 10/1 suggesting the results of the November vote can be shockingly reversed.

    It is said that bets on Donald Trump’s re-election had plunged from election night to nearly zero to then dramatically grow in the last two days. The platform now trades around £587,036,554 on the outcome of the presidential vote, an unprecedented sum considering the fact that more than a week has passed since election day.

    Betfair, however, seems to be refusing bets that it is Joe Biden who will eventually emerge as a final winner of the race.

    US-based betting site Predictit also continues to accept wagers on Donald Trump’s possible reversal of election results, at an even higher price of 7/1, numbers that are understandably down from 50/1 bet last Tuesday night.

    One British ex-banker even previously gambled $5 million on Trump’s re-election through a private bookie, which experts from the industry believe was the “biggest ever” bet made on politics.

    The Donald Trump campaign has now filed lawsuits in election-vote-rich states of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Nevada to challenge vote results, citing a lack of transparency and the tallying of “illegal” ballots after the deadline. The president believes that he has a chance to overturn the outcome of the vote, arguing that the election were fraudulently “stolen” from him.
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    Default Re: MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

    What is the timeline for all of this?

    Have not watched any of the bazzillion Youtube videos in this thread. They are overwhelming in their number.

    So. Summary for an outsider.

    There was an election - one side contesting things.

    This side has untill middle of December to get the result anulled? Then what?

    If not then the other side gets confimed in mid January? And things move on from there?

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    “Joe Biden received 10 million fraudulent votes and several million dead people voted”

    This from a UK man who is well respected and does his research with great care
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    What is the timeline for all of this?

    Have not watched any of the bazzillion Youtube videos in this thread. They are overwhelming in their number.

    So. Summary for an outsider.

    There was an election - one side contesting things.

    This side has untill middle of December to get the result anulled? Then what?

    If not then the other side gets confirmed in mid January? And things move on from there?
    Good questions! For definitive (but cautious) legal interpretation, this may be the most useful thread:

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    GLEN BECK gives us a rant we all need/He along with millions of people are beside themselves with this corruption. https://video.parler.com/eG/xu/eGxuHsCsPirD.mp4

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    Trumps landslide victory, to be confirmed

    This is well presented, though long.
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    Today on television, C Politique on France 5, the presenter spoke about Trump and a possible coup, I only listened to this part. Biden spoke but I didn't read the translation on the screen, I had my headphones on. All these corrupt media, like this, they could not let the United States manage their cases of fraud which for the French media would not exist. With all these contradictions, I don't know what to think anymore, it's delusional and today how do you know who is telling the truth?

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    Quote Posted by safara (here)
    What is the timeline for all of this?

    Have not watched any of the bazzillion Youtube videos in this thread. They are overwhelming in their number.

    So. Summary for an outsider.

    There was an election - one side contesting things.

    This side has untill middle of December to get the result anulled? Then what?

    If not then the other side gets confimed in mid January? And things move on from there?
    Pretty close.

    Very simply: the US has a two-step process. The first step is that 50 states have their own elections. The second step, which happens mid-December, is where the states vote based on the outcomes of their individual elections. This is may be what you're thinking of as the confirmation. Jan is when the new president is officially sworn into office, even though he was officially elected the month prior.

    However, we haven't finished with the first step. Not all states have certified their elections, and even with the ones that have been certified, neither candidate has enough states to claim a win. So while both sides are claiming a win--there is not an official winner right now.

    If their is no clear path to all of the states being able to vote on Dec. 14, then as I understand our constitution, we go down a different path of deciding the election.

    So far, there's nothing to annul or to confirm, as there is not an official winner at all.
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    Quote Posted by safara (here)
    What is the timeline for all of this?

    Have not watched any of the bazzillion Youtube videos in this thread. They are overwhelming in their number.

    So. Summary for an outsider.

    There was an election - one side contesting things.

    This side has untill middle of December to get the result anulled? Then what?

    If not then the other side gets confirmed in mid January? And things move on from there?
    Good questions! For definitive (but cautious) legal interpretation, this may be the most useful thread:
    Cheers Bill - shall get a cup of tea and have a read.

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    Quote Posted by safara (here)
    What is the timeline for all of this?

    Have not watched any of the bazzillion Youtube videos in this thread. They are overwhelming in their number.

    So. Summary for an outsider.

    There was an election - one side contesting things.

    This side has untill middle of December to get the result anulled? Then what?

    If not then the other side gets confimed in mid January? And things move on from there?
    Pretty close.

    Very simply: the US has a two-step process. The first step is that 50 states have their own elections. The second step, which happens mid-December, is where the states vote based on the outcomes of their individual elections. This is may be what you're thinking of as the confirmation. Jan is when the new president is officially sworn into office, even though he was officially elected the month prior.

    However, we haven't finished with the first step. Not all states have certified their elections, and even with the ones that have been certified, neither candidate has enough states to claim a win. So while both sides are claiming a win--there is not an official winner right now.

    If their is no clear path to all of the states being able to vote on Dec. 14, then as I understand our constitution, we go down a different path of deciding the election.

    So far, there's nothing to annul or to confirm, as there is not an official winner at all.
    Thanks Sarah - a ways to go it seems

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