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    Its Like being in a movie...and suddenly realizing there is an audience.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    If these people were outside of being human, they would very likely not be integrating at all.

    If they were of a power base that was desiring to share-- they would not be communicating or acting the way they are.

    If they could manipulate time, then they would not be integrating or acting the way they are.

    One of their best kept secrets is the willful act of keeping others in ignorance of their existence, actions and intentions. This is practically page 1, chapter 1 of Sun Tzu's 'Art of war'. It is the larger source of their power. They guard it jealously, powerfully, willfully and directly.

    under the presumption that Dolores Cannon AND Michael Newton are both not 'plants' added into society to deceive us, then, under that 'point', the 33 bloodlines emerge as being problematic for man, in a way that is very 'ego' like. Ie, the heartless aspect acting out as being heartfelt, in their own view.

    If they have bred within themselves, as a group, for milennia, then they end up with an inbreeding situation much like the current 'wandering Jew' syndrome that exists to day. Those Jewish people who wanted nothing to do with the current zionist and centralist pattern of thinking..they opted out and became simple citizens of the given country they were in. I know this as about 4 or 5 people I know did exactly that, including some of my ancestors.

    Over time, through about 1700+ years of this wandering and culling of the herd, where those with open attitudes leave and those with closed attitudes remain..they ended up with a situation where the most centralist and animalistic 'fear of outsider-protect the herd' base emotional genetic disposition remained and reinforced this in the succeeding generations. This is classically known as inbreeding. This meant, that in the end, the zionist system in place is one of if not the the strongest remaining influences of specific note and weight, and thus the tenants of zionism has shaped the genetic influences within those who remained in the Jewish system of religion and living.

    These supposed 33 bloodlines are likely suffering from the same inbreeding effects and are suffering maladies and mental structural considerations that the rest of the world does not understand or know.

    One part of that seems to be the specific aspect of a wiring designed around a lower level of empathy. This seems a bit self-obvious but it is best to say it outright. We are actually talking about genetic stilting, in a detrimental fashion, not one of advantage, but detriment. The dead end of the loss of ethics - in guarding the collective.

    If the works of Micheal Newton are true..then this means that in such a system, the most difficult and problematic souls would be assigned those bodies and lives. Where they get to live out contrast so they can be given an opportunity to do things correctly.

    If they individually fail in those given and elected tasks..then the are likely going to find themselves with most of what they are today...erased from existence. This, when their lives end. Newton's hypnosis of all his different individuals and those regressions of all those other practitioners is clear enough on that aspect..if you read the works well enough. essentially, people are not punished for killing and to be 'possessed by the demons of the body's conflicts and responses'..this is considered to be the part of the situation to be overcome by the given individual. Many chances are given. So it appears to be a totally open ended system/game/experiment/school. HOWEVER, in the end, it is not. There is a wall.

    They have been told the 'game' has no walls, and no limits. Well, that might be true until one finds a limit by encountering it. The way to have an experiment be 'free' from influence it in this sort of case, tell or illustrate to the experimentees (subjects)...that there is no limit ---and run it that way. UNTIL they (this subgroup of the subjects) bump into a wall.... and the rules change, subtly, for those who have just bumped into the given wall.
    Carmody are you saying we have bumped into the 'wall' - i.e. that Charles' information informs us that we are not free individuals but part of a grand experiment? Or, that we are part of a "closed system" and not able to change it, period, done end of story? Please clarify THE WALL.

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    Norman said it all: the analogy only works if it is a human with a shotgun!

    Here, is a deer thinking he should kill other deers!
    You can go around it all, but there is no escape: it is just WRONG! end of story

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    20 seconds to change the future of our planet by convincing Rothschild there is a better way forward...

    The Templars were controlled by the 33?

    they started the international banking system, and "profits" were used to give medical help and food to the poor...

    why did the 33 change their mind and turn the Catholic church on the Templars to regain financial control?

    were they mad the deer were being fed by those under the 33s control?

    were they mad the Templars were treating those dying from the Black Plaque the 33 had released on humanity?

    so many good questions in this thread, but will any be answered?

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    Quote Posted by Deega (here)
    Thanks Bashi for your interesting post!

    I wonder, what would be your "proper reaction"? Listening, submitting constructive comments, act in gentille ways...? We are at risk anyway..., and we know all that we will die sometimes, how may we build a better world for those that follow, our children, our grand-children.

    IMHO, probably like us, the group of 33 doesn't know where they come from, they seem to know where they would like to go (we are not included, we are dispensable), they don't give a star on us anyway..., so what do you think members should do...?

    All my blessings.

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    There are several possibilities why the vid was granted.

    All this is under the assumption that the reason for the vid is a call, even if only an indirect one.
    Maybe that’s a naïve and a too positive standpoint, but by having that standpoint less damage might get inflicted and nothing is lost. This is all under “suspended judgment”.

    If they are around for millions of years already, then there is a good chance that they do not need assistance. On the other hand they might have repeatedly made the same mistakes and want to change something.
    Maybe outside forces are dictating a change in the game…

    Well, what to do? Your choice…
    This might be a complete new situation and it will take time to adapt.
    If you wake up in complete darkness in an unknown enviro and you notice the light is increasing, then why not just relax and wait until more becomes clear.

    The whole thing is exiting, but wouldn`t it be unwise to storm animalistic ahead without being able to return to the original position and then fall off the unnoticed cliff?

    So, I would also opt for the waiting game…

    It is a pity that - for now - Bill is not able to contribute more.

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    Quote Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
    Carmody are you saying we have bumped into the 'wall' - i.e. that Charles' information informs us that we are not free individuals but part of a grand experiment? Or, that we are part of a "closed system" and not able to change it, period, done end of story? Please clarify THE WALL.
    According to Newton, a given soul is granted many chances to correct itself. Some have even killed thousands. If a life is a soul getting a lesson, then the idea of the value of life changes dramatically. Which brings one to the edge of seeing an open ended game. A school.

    if one is in a body in a Somnambulistic duality state, ie ego drive semiconscious...which about 99.99+% of humans are (including anyone reading this-and the writer)...then we get a chance to understand action and consequence as the form of a lesson. Death and taxes being part of that lesson.

    Now, IF the 33 bloodlines are aware of these aspects and damage 'the game'... their their actions will result in something akin to, according to the information we have so far..a full or near full canceling of their individual tickets.

    Ignorance is allowed , nay is part of the game. Fully intentional.

    Willful damage.... in full knowledge, however.... is a different situation altogether.

    I'm saying that if this logic proposed follows through, at all, then this group has bumped into a wall of the game. One that was purposely held from them ....in order to have the experiment flow --unimpeded.

    One does not allow the destruction of (suppositionally speaking) an experiment and system of about 7 billion incarnating souls.... all over a few members of a bloodline. specifically when this is the sort of thing that the experiment was designed around dealing with. And the experiment is seemingly designed around dealing with those parameters, in the specific.

    How will the individuals the incarnated individuals all together, ultimately...in the collective.....how will they work this out?

    So now the egoic imperative and issue...comes to a head on the individual and collective level. As above, so below.
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    please pay attention to what "charles" was saying when confronted with bill's interference "allegation" - he said that the inetreference or the way it "was meant to be" could be considered as one and the same...i read into it: they are intrefering when either: the humanity's actions precipitate the credible "interference" , which gets accepted as a natural sequence/result of events; or when the change is due anyway, let's say induced by higher forces - i think we are due a big change from sources other than the 33 and according to their recipe, they will want to touch it up, take a credit for it, so that they stay on track with their envisaged looong term agenda..

    what's so obviously manipulated, consistently and for eons, is a positive human EMOTION (compassion) - which is something that the 33 so painfully lack...what they would like to see, i think, is that that emotion turns to despair and fear - which would serve them just fine... my response would be: get in touch with your higher self for instructions...the situation requires urgency..see if you could be given a tool to counteract this impending danger...and resist through no means of their own... l


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    here's an out-there thought [w/no disrespect intended to Bill] -- i've noticed that when my own gov't is slipping thru some especially nasty bit of legislation, there is always some big diversionary hoopla on TV , along the lines of the O.J trial -- i'm wondering if this interview could be along these lines? look at the response it's getting here on this forum -- i wonder what's going on behind the scenes [ of the NWO, not at PA]

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    According to Newton, a given soul is granted many chances to correct itself. Some have even killed thousands. If a life is a soul getting a lesson, then the idea of the value of life changes dramatically. Which brings one to the edge of seeing an open ended game. A school.

    if one is in a body in a Somnambulistic duality state, ie ego drive semiconscious...which about 99.99+% of humans are (including anyone reading this-and the writer)...then we get a chance to understand action and consequence as the form of a lesson. Death and taxes being part of that lesson.

    Now, IF the 33 bloodlines are aware of these aspects and damage 'the game'... their their actions will result in something akin to, according to the information we have so far..a full or near full canceling of their individual tickets.

    Ignorance is allowed , nay is part of the game. Fully intentional.

    Willful damage.... in full knowledge, however.... is a different situation altogether.

    I'm saying that if this logic proposed follows through, at all, then this group has bumped into a wall of the game. One that was purposely held from them ....in order to have the experiment flow --unimpeded.

    One does not allow the destruction of (suppositionally speaking) an experiment and system of about 7 billion incarnating souls.... all over a few members of a bloodline. specifically when this is the sort of thing that the experiment was designed around dealing with. And the experiment is seemingly designed around dealing with those parameters, in the specific.

    How will the individuals the incarnated individuals all together, ultimately...in the collective.....how will they work this out?

    So now the egoic imperative and issue...comes to a head on the individual and collective level. As above, so below.
    OK, thanks. Now IF this is true or even close to true hear this: I will NOT acquiesce to the sacrifice of billions of my fellow humans to advance any paradigm. THIS is where I draw the line.

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    Charles mentioned something like the 7 Billion are due to a “mistake in the machine”.

    There is a theory: That the souls are getting “harvested and recycled” in a huge machine, which is positioned on the moon. This process is repeated over and over again. Maybe this cycle can only be broken by getting enlightened…

    If it’s a “mistake”, then the 33 would be the extended hand of an alien program-fix.
    But isn't it naive to think 7 Billion is a "mistake"?

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    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    Charles mentioned something like the 7 Billion are due to a “mistake in the machine”.

    There is a theory: That the souls are getting “harvested and recycled” in a huge machine, which is positioned on the moon. This process is repeated over and over again. Maybe this cycle can only be broken by getting enlightened…

    If it’s a “mistake”, then the 33 would be the extended hand of an alien program-fix.
    But isn't it naive to think 7 Billion is a "mistake"?
    it surely is NOT merely a mistake if the billions are also an energy source to be directed this way or that.............just a thought. Also this periodic "harvest" appears, when reviewing the fossil and geological record, to be cyclical and entrained with energetic cycles interconnecting our solar system with other celestial forces within, and outside of this galaxy

    as for 'enlightment" it is no mistake that the noble ones of ancient and present times emphasize meditation as the royal path to transcendence Bashi as you well know

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    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    Charles mentioned something like the 7 Billion are due to a “mistake in the machine”.

    There is a theory: That the souls are getting “harvested and recycled” in a huge machine, which is positioned on the moon. This process is repeated over and over again. Maybe this cycle can only be broken by getting enlightened…

    If it’s a “mistake”, then the 33 would be the extended hand of an alien program-fix.
    But isn't it naive to think 7 Billion is a "mistake"?
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    That would be as naive as thinking the thing he stated (as being naive), which is to think that some ships would cover light years to get here.... and then suddenly crash in the US desert.

    Regarding a 'machine on the moon', this may be part of the 'game'. Ie the limiting of souls to this sphere of influence, or range of adventure. The alluded to 'morphic field' limits. The limit being held by ego function, is one potential interpretation.
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    Quote Charles mentioned something like the 7 Billion are due to a “mistake in the machine”.

    There is a theory: That the souls are getting “harvested and recycled” in a huge machine, which is positioned on the moon. This process is repeated over and over again. Maybe this cycle can only be broken by getting enlightened…

    If it’s a “mistake”, then the 33 would be the extended hand of an alien program-fix.
    But isn't it naive to think 7 Billion is a "mistake"
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    i remember john lear mention that the grays are collecting the souls and taking them to the moon for re-cycling...maybe that's what charles was referring to when he mentioned "that thing on the moon"... l


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    About the artifact on the Moon Charles spoke off..........


    From min. 11:40

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    .......There is a theory: That the souls are getting “harvested and recycled” in a huge machine, which is positioned on the moon. This process is repeated over and over again.......


    Now where did I put that John Lear mp3 file?

    and where does he get all his inside info from!?
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    please pay attention to what "charles" was saying when confronted with bill's interference "allegation" - he said that the inetreference or the way it "was meant to be" could be considered as one and the same...i read into it: they are intrefering when either: the humanity's actions precipitate the credible "interference" , which gets accepted as a natural sequence/result of events; or when the change is due anyway, let's say induced by higher forces - i think we are due a big change from sources other than the 33 and according to their recipe, they will want to touch it up, take a credit for it, so that they stay on track with their envisaged looong term agenda..
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    Somehow this issue of "interference" and "meant to be" is not entirely clear to me.
    Bill mentioned something about a lion jumping on the deer…
    Can you please shed some more light on it?

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    Quote Posted by bashi (here)

    Thanks Bashi for your interesting comments,

    Quote There are several possibilities why the vid was granted
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    Are you aware of real possibilities that was given to you, or, you’re throwing hypothesis..? And admitting your hypothesis is good, we are invited by the representative of the Annunaki Nation (do you see it that way?) to let then know what we think of what is coming..., would this seem reasonable...?

    Quote Maybe that’s a naïve and a too positive standpoint, but by having that standpoint less damage might get inflicted and nothing is lost. This is all under “suspended judgment”.
    I concur that “suspended judgment” would be the appropriate gesture. But, emotions run high for many members, even passion is in for some members, so, it is really hard not to questioned this interview.

    Quote If they are around for millions of years already, then there is a good chance that they do not need assistance. On the other hand they might have repeatedly made the same mistakes and want to change something.
    Then, may I conclude that it’s the Annunaki, the Reptilian (Queen, Bush, Kissinger likes – as reference by David Ickle, Arizona Wilder) race trying to get in openly. Unfortunately, they want to be in on their conditions, it would be great, at least, if we would be considered partners, you will agreed!

    Quote Maybe outside forces are dictating a change in the game…
    Do you have any clue...?, and Yes!, this would be interesting, but what outside forces, from which galaxy, for what purposes...?

    Quote This might be a complete new situation and it will take time to adapt.
    What do you see here...?, is it something we are already familiar...?, and may you share what you hold...?
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    If you wake up in complete darkness in an unknown enviro and you notice the light is increasing, then why not just relax and wait until more becomes clear.
    Unfortunately, I will end up in the state your implying, but I’m not sure if I will be in with the means it takes to react, I’m talking about death. On the other side, if ever a powerful event occur near Earth, and we are caught up in a vortex where we lost our benchmarks, we will surely be panicky to start with, but, we will be able to analyze as best we can (if we can!) the situation and live through it, a new beginning, if still alive, hope that it will be liveable.

    Quote It is a pity that - for now - Bill is not able to contribute more.
    Your right! And unfortunately, Bill seems so impress by this guy, and we are critical like we should be, “suspended judgment” would surely help, but it’s overwhelming!

    All my blessings.

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    That would be as naive as thinking the thing he stated (as being naive), which is to think that some ships would cover light years to get here.... and then suddenly crash in the US desert.

    Regarding a 'machine on the moon', this may be part of the 'game'. Ie the limiting of souls to this sphere of influence, or range of adventure. The alluded to 'morphic field' limits. The limit being held by ego function, is one potential interpretation.
    so the ego is the WALL??

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    Quote Posted by 3optic (here)
    It's not because we're trying to be nice guys. It's for strategic purposes as well.
    I understand that some of you can embrace the 'strategic purposes' of this plan. Some can't. Sorry. Clearly, I'll be one of the first deer in the crosshairs.

    Just curious -- is EUGENICS being promoted here as well? It fell out of favor after WWII when it was so arduously pursued by Hitler's scientists, but it seems to fit the 33's plan perfectly.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

    So who should they eliminate first? (Besides me....) The handicapped, that's an easy start. Don't want deaf or blind folks taking up resources. Shoot 'em. Down's Syndrome children? Obviously not worth anything - gas 'em. Elderly? Time's up. And for heaven's sake, we won't tolerate any wheelchairs in the herd!

    And if you believe the Anglo-Saxon Mission, you know certain racial types will be favored, and others won't. All part of the strategy. They know what they're doing.

    Oh and once you've destroyed the useless ones and left the favored ones, make sure you get that chip implanted on them so they don't wander off.

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    Quote Posted by Swami (here)
    About the artifact on the Moon Charles spoke off..........


    From min. 11:40
    I think its even worth to start at Part 1:


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