Anyone interested in what's happening in China?

[cayman]

(Just for the record:because my first thread in here with the same title was accidentally removed by webmaster--that's a some kind of irony for someone who come from China. I have to star over, for those who had already read my first post, please bear me. for those who had post question which I haven't got a chance to answer, please do it again, I'll do my best)

hello, everyone! I'm from China. I've been following Bill&Kerry's work for months. It rock my world.
Base on what I've learnt, I would say China is still a missing piece of this big puzzle of the coming event. a lot of you guys have a vague image of China. I'll do my best to contribute regard what's really happening in China. I welcome everyone to post any question about my report. Discuss and debate is the best way to finding out the truth.
If there are anyone else in the forum come from China, please join me!

I had some very interesting discussion with friends in Camelot forum:http://camelotforum.com/index.php?op...668&Itemid=147
latter posts(before #15) is base on what we discussed in Camelot, hope you will enjoy it and start a new discussion

[cayman]

What's really happening China--I: "prep work for Chinese version of Project Blue Beam"

here's a little tail: there's a most important newspaper in China, name"RenMinRiBao"(EN: people daily). in 26/12 2010, Page 3 (Top and Critical news section ), there's a report regard to the "Governments' disclosure movement of official ET files around the world", within that report, it specifically point out the "pine gap" as an Alien base which founded by US and Australia military joint-force. of course, the language or tongue in the Report is something like"it's said" or "the files suggest"..something like that, it's neither deny nor confirm, you catch my drift, but read between the line, for GOD sake! it's in the "People Daily" Top news section! it's something I never seen before!not in the last 30 years.
for those whom are not familiar with China, bear me to explain something about "People Daily", you'll see why it is that important. China is a well-known communist dictatorship nation, well, China's economy may be a socialist-capitalism type, but the regime is still a dictatorship type, covered by some communist form of slogan, what is the most important thing in a dictatorship? --Mind control, or , at least, Mouth control. the communist party in China control the whole country through controlling all the newspapers, all the TV channels,all internet websites, you can say they manipulate everything you hear, even the way you thinking it. But, there's one and only one paper, it can never be controlled. and that's the "People Daily", why? because the "People Daily" is the voice of the chinese Communist Party, it's under direct instruction from the highest level of the Communist Party. so what ever "People Daily" put on it, all other media in China must follow, very least, you can't disobey the "essence" of what the "People Daily" said :S , this newspaper is the first place you will find the most important decisions and announcements made by the ruling Communist Party, range cross economy, politics, culture...everything important in China. There you go, now you see why it's a shock to me to see some report about "Alien base" appear in Critical news section in the most official and most important newspaper in China.
but here comes the interesting part. this "People Daily" have a website, in its website, there's also an almost the same article compare that printed in the paper, but a little bit longer, the longer part is very interesting, it's a direct quote with Bob Dean's name and what he had said about the "Pine Gap": "one of Bob's friend enter a elevator-like door, seconds later, he appear in "Pine Gap" Australia."
but the G-point of this website article is its last sentence，here is my translation quote: "may be, people can believe, that the Alien attacks is entirely possible". OMG! :woohoo: I can't believe what I seen if I haven't spend the last several months in Project Camelot, I myself consider it as a prep homework of Chinese version of "Project Blue Beam". I can only imagine, when the "Blue Beam" rolls out, the Chinese Government come out and say:" I told you so! " ---plausible confirm ability, job well done!

this is the link of the website article: here
the funny thing is this website article published in 23/12/2010, the title of the article which I translated quote:"Aliens may attack human"
the official report in the paper is 26/12/2010,the title change to"Aliens files spark worldwide discussion", see the attachment below, the PDF format of the actual newspaper page3, the report is at the bottom-left corner:
(original source download:http://paper.people.com.cn/rmrb/page...101226B003.pdf )

¤=[Post Update]=¤

What's really happening in China--II: Awakening

Actually, I've done some digging concern the "article" I post above--I contacted my friends who works in the "People Daily" to find out the behind story about the "Alien" reports. the conclusion is: YES. it's a deliberated information leak. classic prep tactic, warm you up with sugar bit by bit, then beat you to believe.
Chinese government is no different than the USA government or any so call government in the world. if there is any, it's worst! in China, there's no Inter-net, only Inner-net. you can't access youtube, Facebook, twitter,or any websites the "Government" don't want you to see, they just block that out by so call "Internet-Greatwall", let along newspaper,magazine, TV. therefore, there is no "Alternative Media" in China. the new age type movement in China is something beyond imagine! Any kind of spiritual public discussion is forbidden, officially, silently, they did it.
the Black-out of spiritual movement happening in China in daly basis. It's a great tragedy for Chinese people, it's also a tragedy for the human race. There're more than 1.3 Billion people in this country, a few group of so call elites play/treat so many people like some kind of lab rats.
I applaud what Kerry had said in "A Note on China" on her blog at Deember 9, 2010, which I quote:"They(the Chinese government) simply want to rule the world like any other power hungry -- service to self organization."
Anyone who "looking at China as a benevolent superpower in the spiritual and practical war for Earth sovereignty and as a replacement for the military 'might makes right' stand of the U.S. government."(quote Kerry's word)---Sorry, my friends, I understand why you would like to think so, but with what I've experienced and see regard to the Ruling Communist Party in China. I would tell you sincerely, that's just a wishful thinking, false hope! you're kidding yourself! you can't count on some regime that treat its own people like lab mice for decades to do some benevolent deeds to balance the world, or even save you from the "New World Order". If the current Chinese regime would do something to the "NWO", it'll be nothing else but accelerate the coming of the "NWO", that's the so call elites do, no matter where they come from, they are the same! They trade/gamble their people like chips. the slight difference is: the chinese regime have more blue chips-1.3 billion people. that should buy them a front seat in "NWO".
so, I think a concept should be clarified here. chinese regime is not equal to China, chinese ruling elites/communist party is not equal to Chinese people. Chinese people, the majority of them, are awakening, not that I say the majority of them are awakening to the spiritual level, but the very least, they realize the Power That Be had played them long enough！the best prove to my point is a recent HOT movie in China "Let the Bullets Fly"(让子弹飞), it hit the highest record in chinese movie market(even more than "Avatar" and "Titanic") its context is simple: people should fight the Power That Be to earn their basic human right. and the movie even offer a complex methods regard to how to fight.
the irony is: the "Power That Be" is the one who pull the trigger, now the Bullet(we,people)has to fly, who knows what/where will the Bullet finally hit?

[cayman]

What is really happening in China--III: my research of "China October Surprise"

quote from Camelot forum

Posted by "DreYsoN" post=16763
At last some one from China who can give us news on whats really going on there.

cayman: there have been a lot of talk about the Chinese Military being engaged by Et's with technology to be on par or even knock US out of the equation, any info on that?

you'd pointed out a very interesting question which I'm still searching for answer.
I believe I first saw it on David Wilcock's website as "China October surprise". I was very surprised when I saw that, my first conclusion was:that's impossible. Because I'm a big fan of weapons and Military stuffs since a little boy, I have some close friends who serve in the Chinese Military, and my daily job have something to do with the Apartment which control the "Import" of highly sensitive technologies and experts from foreign countries. That kind of background make me easily thought that the Chinese Military can't pull it off something like that,it's far from that level, from a "humankind on earth level" point of view,at least. So my second thought on that is: it's a dis-info campaign or "false flag" tactic---I think this is always possible, so I wouldn't rule that out at this point. but this kind of thinking is vague for deeper understanding.
Later on, I decided to dig further--follow the money. for the last 6 years on the official records in Chinese Government, there are two Major Projects going on: OuterSpace project, High-Speed Railroad project. Interesting thing is: the "High-Speed Railroad project" is the highlight of public news in almost daily basis for the last two year; the "OuterSpace project" appear on news media in yearly basis.the impression you got from the news is: Chinese High-technologies are advancing faster than anyone would expected. but once you have a close look at the costs of this two Projects,and compare with the actual achievements they had done---something doesn't add up: the OuterSpace project achieved more than it spend,high-yield; the High-Speed Railroad project achieved much less than it spend,low-yield---isn't that buzzard? and the Chinese Government have an answer for that: "we invent the hard-core technologies of High-speed train all by ourself, and the development process cost a lot!" but the truth is: the High-speed train is a product combine the foreign hard-core techs with local manufacture,the actual cost of one train is 40% less than it is claimed. and the railroads are mainly upgraded from the old-ones,not building brand-new ones. so the real question is: where did the 40% more of money go? and just 3 days ago,out of the blue,the Chief of Chinese OuterSpace project came out and said: we plan to sending probe to Mars in 2013, we are ready to go! hmy: --which we(ordinary Chinese) never heard a clew before,that's not the Chinese government propaganda style.----and now it's all in the public news. and there is also a news which is not in the public domain: someone who is in the top7 list in the Chinese government power-core,his son quited quietly from the Private Equity Fund which he founded(the income of that position is at least 20 millions US dollar per year), and took charge of an investment fund belong to the OuterSpace Project(the income is at most 0.2 million US dollar per year), you do the math.
Conclusion: there's definitely a major shift of investment going on in Chinese Government. and the direction of that shiftment is connected to OuterSpace program,more or less. the OuterSpace teches is the hard-core point of all teches including Military teches. the spur of Chines OuterSpace teches is something worth watching closely.
whether there are some Alien engaging with Chinese Military,I don't know for sure, but I doubt that the Chinese Military achieve that kind of teches in such short time all by itself. At this point, if there indeed some ET helping Chinese Military to knock US out of the equation, I doubt there will be any difference of the outcomes for the entire human race.

[ponda]

Hi cayman and welcome


Yes very interesting that the project bluebeam type et attack scenario has also manifested itself right into the "People Daily' in China.This et invasion scenario is really getting thrust into the mainstream all over the world at present.It really makes one wonder what might be coming our way and when.Very interesting times.

That is also interesting that you say that many Chinese people are also waking up to what has been going on and how the ptb have been abusing their power.This is very good news to hear.

Yes it is true that the ptb are the same the world over and use similar tactics but in different ways.

Interesting the apparent sudden advancement of the Chinese space program.The Chinese government has a big wallet to play with compared to the US these days.

[sunnyrap]

Looked up the movie cayman is talking about: "Let the Bullets Fly"...found it on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1533117/

I like the star Yun-Fat Chow (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon) and the movie got really great reviews

[cayman]

What is really happening in China-IV：Chinese "ROSWELL" Event

Posted by "Chaska108" post=16883
great to have you on the boards Cayman, Have a question on the UFO sighitings over airports in china, that were run on Youtube channels
was this News shown for the guy on the street in China?
Did people in China know it was going on? did the Offical Press print anything on this?
thanks
and we all are enjoying your posts here on the forum

yep, this was very well known as "XiaoShan UFO" event happened in July 2010, back then, every major websites in China and some local TV channel, several national newspaper cover that story for some weeks. There were very hot discussion about it, below is some very various good video of the same event. it cause a major airport shutdown, and appear in several big city, like Shanghai, Hangzhou,

video 1 this one is amazing
video 2
report 1
report 2

back then, this event got so big. Government had to sending out some "official" investigate team. of course, the end result is one word: vague. Just like “Roswell" but I'm sure that inspired more people to think....this kind of UFO sighting things happen in China very often recently, in many different places.
sometimes I can't help to think if we can call it "UFO self-disclosure movement".

[ponda]

WOW that first video is definitely a must watch and the images from report 1 are interesting as well.

[cayman]

What is really happening in China--V: "Red Dragon"

Posted by "Huancaina27" post=16817
...China as you express so eloquently, not only have the intention but all the tools and toys + the money to really be the new Potential world they always want to be.

China is actually not as powerful as one might assume, Chinese regime might get their hands on some tools and toys, but it's too soon to assume they can match the Western Military power; as a society, China have some very serious domestic problems, Chinese regime had lost its credit for the people rapidly in recent year, right now, China is a fragile nation. the money that Westerner assume that China have, now causing a serious inflation in China, because China can't spend most of the money to buy useful Equities in an Anglo-Saxson controlled World, so it turns out, that much of money is not only useless, but later become a poison to the domestic economy. few individuals chinese are super rich, but China is not rich as a country.

Posted by "Aikya" post=16865
Yes, I read about the inflation. Is it true that the Chinese government is regulating the prices of goods and services, so they can't be raised as inflation continues? How do they actually control it? Are there controllers walking in the stores etc? How do they do it?

Yep! all true.
Chinese government are regulating the prices of some essential goods like food, electric,oil,water. they control it mainly by Government oder. there are some inspectors walking in the markets or stores time to time. the reason they can do it because: first of all, Chinese economy is not entirely free market type capitalism, Government own the major asset and major companies in the country, and the Government is under full control of one Communist Party, so basically, private business have to obey the order from the Government, that's what they call socialist-capitalism in China; second of all, before 1978, China is a complete socialism economy, so the Chinese government was an expert of controlling the price, they build many storages around the country to store food, oil....etc. when the market price is too high, they open the storages, let the goods out, therefore they can control the price as they see fit.
but from I actully know, soon, the inflation in China will be out of control, this is not something they can control forever, their ammo is running out!

that's the simple version of answer for the question. later on, I will write some more complicated explanation regard that, because it has everything relate to the upcoming meeting between Obama and Hu(President of China), and that will weigh a great deal in 2011 for the "NWO"

[Icecold]

Cayman Quote:

just 3 days ago,out of the blue,the Chief of Chinese OuterSpace project came out and said: we plan to sending probe to Mars in 2013, we are ready to go!

Not a new story Cayman....

The Mars probe was announced in June 2009 in the China Daily. Here is the headline "China's first Mars probe set for launch in Oct."

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90...6/6674370.html

Not really 'out of the blue' eh? Here is the headline dated a few days ago...."China to launch 1st Mars probe in 2013"

Maybe you missed the earlier story.

[cayman]

What is really happening in China--VI: Religion in China

About Spiritual Enlightenment

Posted by "DreYsoN" post=16763
Also how can the Chinese Government not allow Spiritual Enlightenment? most of the Chinese people that I know are really into the spiritual stuff like QiGong, TaiChi, etc..

see what happened to DaLaiLaMa and FaLunGong? Not that I believe or belongs to any kind of religions,but the bottom line is: I should have the basic right to choose whatever I want to believe. QiGong, TaiChi,Fengshui...that's fine. many Chinese consider those as techs for health or practical use. but if someone/somegroup come out and say:follow the techs,we can achieve a higher spiritual enlightenment. those someone/somegroup would end up in jail or fled out off China.


Catholic Community in China

Posted by "Huancaina27" post=16817
... and what about the Catholics Cayman? I noticed how the catholic community increased not only out of China but in China. The Vatican is extending its tentacles over there smoothly but surely, right? in my personal opinion and sure many others think the same way... Religion is what dominates the soul of the people.

This is a very important topic.

I actually had several serious discussions with my friends about that after I saw the "Project Camelot interview with Luca Scantamburlo"

one of my college roommates is registered catholic, he is a very goodman. he hold a Doctor degree, he is smart. but he had a very hard time to find a good job in China. Because if you want to have a good job in China(by "good job", I mean not only good and stable income, but respectful position in Chinese society point of view, i.e Government paid job), most of that "good job" required you must be a member of Communist Party of China, or very least, you're not belong to any kind of religion. Hence, as a registered catholic, my roommate had very little choice. He is the one who told me Chinese Communist Party(CCP) has set of delicate ways of controlling the Chinese Catholic community, a clear one: the bishop is appointed by CCP instead of Vatican. ---CCP and Vatican fight for 60 more years. that's not news.
Another friend who work at a high level of Government Censor system once told me about their policy for catholic community:"as long as we control the CEO of their community and everything else their body need, the Government don't really care what god do they believe in. The Vatican never win a single battle in China since 1949..." base on what I learn from him, the CCP treat the Vatican as a serious threat, they put a lot of resource to encounter that---that may suggest the Vatican also do the same.

Despite all that, Yes, Catholic community is increasing in China today. I'm not sure whether it's because The Vatican or the Awakening wave inside the people. never the less, the war between dominative soul and free soul is scorching in China, that's for sure

[gripreaper]

Are you in the US currently?

[fifi]

Thanks very much, cayman, for your post. I'm looking forward to your analysis or insight of the meeting between Obama and Hu(President of China). Coming from a communist country, I really understand what you talk about - the one-party government that controls everything. You are very brave. If I still lived in my communist country, I would not dare to post like you. Take care, and many blessings.

[cayman]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Are you in the US currently?

No, I'm right there in Beijing, China

[cayman]

What is really happening in China--VII: The "Vatican" in China

Posted by "Huancaina27" post=16884
You didn't answer my question. What about the Vatican in China? ...I have this strong impression that this lets say "Organization" has some Gigantic power behind this pretentious NWO... or to be more precise. They have something to do with TPTW. If we have to find the 33 families or people or organization who called themselves "the controllers"... they are in my list (The Vatican) and I would like to know what about them in China?...

I just wondering and hoping that this NWO will not happen and care that we will not be reunited like one world under Controllers that just keep caring about making the most of it only for themselves and keep using people like human resources... an so far that is what we are. Doesn't matter if you work in a sophisticated office in Manhattan or Beijing.. They use us, to perpetrate their crimes. and if we can do something we should do something to stop this nonsense. Don't you think so?

But, if as you said... China is having a quick changes in their Techs. and "looks like" but we don't know for sure, they are receiving help from out of this world... Then, we should start thinking again about what is really going on with the earth!
......

Sorry, I missed you point. if my understanding is correct, the essence of you question is basically like this: let's say "A"= The Power That be in China + new Alien power(if there are any)
"B"= NWO power(the Vatican or 33 families)+old Alien power
the big questions in our head is like :
will A rising up as an opponent to B? or will A be compromised to the B?

but the question you ask is: what is B doing with A in China now? I heard what are you saying：if we can find out some answer piece by piece from the world , then may be we can get a more clear picture.


if that's a correct understanding. then my respond is: it's the core subject and responsibility for someone who live in China, I'm trying hard to find out more. right now, I don't really have more for that.

[cayman]

Posted by sunnyrap (here)
Looked up the movie cayman is talking about: "Let the Bullets Fly"...found it on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1533117/

I like the star Yun-Fat Chow (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon) and the movie got really great reviews

Yep, the movie has so many unsay-words hidden between the lines--that's a real shout out moment for majority of Chinese people. It get so many great reviews, soon, it will hit the record at least 700 Billion Yuan, double more than anticipated.

[xm15e2]

Its great to have you here Cayman.I have enjoyed your posts very much, and your voice is appreciated here

[cayman]

Posted by fifi (here)
Thanks very much, cayman, for your post. I'm looking forward to your analysis or insight of the meeting between Obama and Hu(President of China). .

sure, I do have more on that subject. I'm collecting informations this days. quick flash: there are definitely some unusual major exchange going on between US and CN Governments.

[cayman]

Posted by ponda (here)
WOW that first video is definitely a must watch and the images from report 1 are interesting as well.

Many of that were shooted with Cellphones. the "Video 1" is something more than a common UFOs

[cayman]

Posted by Icecold (here)

Not a new story Cayman....

The Mars probe was announced in June 2009 in the China Daily. Here is the headline "China's first Mars probe set for launch in Oct."

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90...6/6674370.html

Not really 'out of the blue' eh? Here is the headline dated a few days ago...."China to launch 1st Mars probe in 2013"

Maybe you missed the earlier story.

Thank you for your correction! now I dig more and find out, the similar story came out way back 2007. link:http://it.sohu.com/20070522/n250148301.shtml . at that story they plan to lauch it in 2009. but the story is somekind of self-talking type, no offical confirm. didn't spread wide and not so official as the scale as the recent annoucement.

I said "out of the blue" may be a bit overstament. but try to understand, the Chinese government propaganda system is the reason why I feel "sudden". I explained something about that propaganda system in my second post regard the "People Daily". now,I try to explain more: all of the Chinese medias are controlled in very few people, and by "few", I mean no more than 5 persons. they decide what is you need to know. and the things they decide you can know are channeled through "People Daily" and "CCTV"(government control central Televison channels), then other media include major websites following the story. So, if something come out all over the country, then you know it's an annoucement or decission from the power that be, and that kind of public annoucements or decissions must be and will be accomplished on time whether the actual result is true of false. bottom line is: they seldom annouce or report something they can't do--especially something that they consider relate to the Pride of the Communist Party. and the trick is: they always did it before the schedule, that make them look good!--on another hands, even they can't deliver, they will tell the people: we did it! 120% success! further, the deeper trick is :they'd done it several times even before they say there will be a plan--it assure the odds that make the Party looks great! the Communist Party is very much enjoying in this kind of stuff.
----follow that logic, you can expect the official reports that China will launch the probe before 2013, rumors say they will do it this year. my dare guess is: they'd already sent the probe(or something like that) to Mars, the annoucement of the Chief of Chinese OuterSpace program is some kind of official cover story in order to make a require for more money from the official balancesheet. It's a gesture from the hidden force in the Power that be to the official Government---Yes, I say it. there are many levels of the Power That Be hidden away from the Chinese public domain, the majority of Chinese people don't know anything about it. and I have first hand experience to say that.

Therefore, I welcome anyone in the forum who come from China to discuss or even argue with me. as a matter of fact, I urge that!
After all, one mouth of a story is always thin

[cayman]

Posted by fifi (here)
You are very brave. If I still lived in my communist country, I would not dare to post like you. Take care, and many blessings.

Yes, the risk is always out there. But it's time do something, I heard what Bill said: jump off the cliff. Just do it