levitating girl in Russia

[str8thinker]

Same image as Richard's crop:

[Zook]

Posted by str8thinker (here)
Same image as Richard's crop:

Ahhh ... knew it might be too good to be true.

But how does she hold her legs up high like that ...

[Ross]

Posted by Zook (here)
Ahhh ... knew it might be too good to be true.

But how does she hold her legs up high like that ...

Mum says: keep your legs out straight or it wont look real...

[pilotsimone]

Posted by meeradas (here)
Anastasia & her daughter in anoraks. Only thing that bothers me here are the anoraks.
[SCNR]

A fun thought.

Anastasia wouldn't be wearing a coat though. She's able to manipulate her body temp, remember?

[Banshee]

that black thing attached to her trousers looks like a "kiddie swing" sort of saddle? (how she keeps her legs out)? I was really hoping it was real. Somewhat disappointed.

[Transdimensional Bean Pod]

oy vey. that was completely fake. in every way, smacks of a staged event. guy just happens to be filming his dog doing nothing special in the woods? dog ignores his (probably fake) name and runs in the direction of the 'strangers' (probably the guy's wife and child)? conveniently misses the part where she lands?

I've seen and experienced things that defy physics as we know it... but this ain't one of them.

These kinds of spoofs really get under my skin - does a lot to discredit interest in the paranormal. Really sets us back.



well done spotting the cables, str8thinker.

when i hear about things like levitation, i am reminded of what some yogi said about past life regressions...something to the effect of, 'I have a hard enough time with THIS life, why do I want to drag in others?' (something like that).

i guess it's a neat trick, but I can't imagine why I'd spend time trying to do it. unless it's just pure fun for some people, which is cool.

[cloud9]

If those were cables I think the clothes would look different, the one that is supposed to be in front of the red jacket would make the fabric wrinkled... I really think those lines are due to the movement of the camera as they are also everywhere...

[Alien Ramone]

It had a staged feel to it? I noticed a stick moving across the screen. Then I read the YouTube comments and someone pointed out that at 30 to 31 seconds you can see a man a little to the left of where the girl is. Watch it again a few times around the 30 second mark and you will notice a man holding a stick moving across the screen.

[Bill Ryan]

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Those are not 'cables' or ropes. They're thin trees... look closely!

I'm a rock climber, and I know a lot about ropes, harnesses, abseiling, rappelling, mountain rescue, and what it takes to fasten and unfasten a person to a rope. Whatever's happening here is absolutely not that.

No rope would ever be round or near the neck. A full body harness (which is what would have to be used) looks like this:

And when the girl lands, she's off and running immediately. No unbuckling of the harness (which takes forever), no unscrewing of screwgate karabiners (the girl would need assistance as they would be behind her) - nothing like that.

She was not attached to anything as far as I can see.

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
And when the girl lands, she's off and running immediately. No unbuckling of a harness, unscrewing of screwgate karabiners - nothing like that. She was not attached to anything as far as I can see.

Before the girl lands, the camera shoots at the snow on the ground. the video could be spliced there. When the camera shows the girl again she is already in the mothers arms and is set down so she can run. Is nobody noticing the man with the stick or do they see him and still think it's real?

[Gajanana]

Is it possible that the film was cut and spliced at the point where the camera is pointed away from the landing? that part still bugs me - any vid experts out there?

[Billiam]

Why is the Russian saying "come here?" in English to the dog called"tarzan" and if he was watching the dog through the camera he would not have noticed the girl which he immediately panned right to...

[Ilie Pandia]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A full body harness (which is what would have to be used)

Unfortunately Bill, they do not require a full body harness if this is faked .

You would require a harness in a mountain unsafe event, but not on a staged event. Just as the magician's assistant that "levitates" does not require a harness either. David Copperfield has a stunning levitation act where he flies around in what appears to be "quite natural movements" in the sense that you can not spot where the "anchor point" is. But he's as master of deception...

So what I am trying to say is that if it is fake (and I am not saying it is) it would not necessarily require a harness to do it.

PS: I also believe that the so called cables may actually be trees.

[Tuza]

Posted by Billiam (here)
Why is the Russian saying "come here?" in English to the dog called"tarzan" and if he was watching the dog through the camera he would not have noticed the girl which he immediately panned right to...

Exactly Billiam, good points. Maybe the guy with the dog knew or is related to the woman and girl and wanted to film the girl levitating (if it is real).

The other point for me was the dog taking off towards the girl and the woman, I think that dog knew them beforehand.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by pixel (here)
Unfortunately Bill, they do not require a full body harness if this is faked .

You would require a harness in a mountain unsafe event, but not on a staged even. Just as the magician's assistant that "levitates" does not require a harness either. David Copperfield has a stunning levitation act where he flies around in what appear "quite natural movements" in the sense that you can no spot where the "anchor point" is.

So what I am trying to say is that if it is fake (and I am not saying it is) it would not necessarily require a harness to do it.

I was responding to the 'cables' theory. It's certainly not that. Find any climber and ask them.

The girl's legs are also outstretched behind her.... as if she is floating. Attached to a rope, I couldn't even do that myself.

Of course David Copperfield could do it on stage.... but a girl in the woods in the snow?

It's okay to be skeptical... but who benefits from something like this? There's no audience, no sales, no game being played.

I can't see a splice point in the video. It may have been a cellphone camera, and the guy may have dropped it. (I'd probably have dropped it, too!)

[Ilie Pandia]

Bill, I actually agree with your point

While I do not levitate myself (just yet) I accept the possibility that this ability can be manifested.

So when you look at this video you will filter it through your belief system:
- if levitation is not possible for you: you can find endless ways of debunking this (the video is not clear enough and so on...)
- if levitation is possible in your belief system: then there's nothing unusual going on in the video

It comes back to your discussion of "proof"... it never is a definite "in your face!"

Transformers quote: "I was not there so I can not comment or speculate"

[bodixa]

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Fascinating topic.

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's a downloaded MP4 (to download again from the Avalon server) to do your own frame by frame analysis:

http://projectavalon.net/Levitating_...sian_Woods.mp4

She's definitely not suspended from anything. She's in a clearing. There are no tall strong trees around. It would have had to have been a crane!

No man with a stick. There could (in theory) have been a splice. The film speed is 12 fps...

[gripreaper]

It looks like the rear connection device is protruding from the child's behind, and the harness is under the coat. Notice how the coat going across her behind does not conform to the natural contours of her behind but has an arc to it where the harness passes through.

How to explain the quick detach from the harness and the quick run away? A spliced and photo-shopped tape. It also looks like a figure to the left was photo-shopped out too.

I do agree with Bill that it would be difficult to hold your legs extended like that, especially for a young child.

I would have to defer to a forensic analyst who can examine this frame by frame and make a logical determination based on all the facts, but what the hey!

That's hypothesis, study, conclusion in the Newtonian paradigm of physicality! I do think that the Siddhis powers are real and available to us. I sure would like to levitate.

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
No man with a stick.

I see a man with a stick, and he is wearing gray and black to camouflage in with the woods. He is hard to miss once you know he is there. Watch it a few times from 30 to about 36 seconds. His head is about at the height of the girls knees while she is floating, and his feet are around where the bottom of the trees are. At around 30 or 31 seconds his head is slightly behind the girls knees. Then he moves to the left on the screen. By 36 seconds he has moved back into view.

Edit: 33 to 34 seconds is where he is the most visible. Try freezing the video there, and see if you see him with his head around where the floating girls feet and knees are.