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    Getting back to the basics and discovering new things has helped me prepare for a pending crisis. Along with food storage I have taken up gardening, dehydration, bread making and pressure canning. Can we ever fully prepare? Perhaps not, but by doing a little at a time you soon have something to be thankful for it if ever needed. My wife and family gave me grief at the onset of my preparations but as the plot has begun to thicken they too are begining to understand my quest for survival.

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    live on a farm.

    been physically preparing for 30+ years.

    spiritually preparing for 11 years.

    with the help of avalon forum, been learning to let go. to release. to forgive. to center. to care for our fellowmen.

    how to share this with my family? i do, in a more balanced sort of way. they are awake and aware.

    and a lot of the people who visit us leave a little healthier.

    very few, a little more awake.

    even fewer, a little more aware.

    all we can ever do is try (;-))

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    The three biggest changes we've made in the last three years

    We maintain a years supply of propane and a three year supply of kerosene

    We put up four years worth of long term storable food and one year of staples like coffee & cooking oil

    Jim Phillips foam clothing allows us to go without heat if necessary down to about zero degrees.


    We had a power outage recently. The only reason we even noticed was the radio went out. The kerosene lamps don't
    care. The propane heater doesn't care. Deb brewed a cuppa for us on the propane stove and we listened to a podcast
    on the computers battery power while kidding about how we were suffering without electricity. It's taken seven years of trial and error to get where we are now.

    But you are never done. There was mild concern for the chickens with no power on the predator fence. Fortunately
    most of the local critters are trained not to try it. We could use a really good medical kit and it is time to
    buy a 100 pounds of coffee again.

    We've made a strategic decision to radically change course and get all gasoline off the property changing our vehicles and generator over to diesel. Then by increasing our storage capacity four fold we would have a
    years supply of fossil fuel <at normal useage rate> which can be stabilized with PRI-D to last ten years or more.
    It's a long term goal due to the cost of diesel vehicles. Battery operated dc pumps would give us our very own fuel
    station to help us smooth out the smaller bumps (1-3months or less) A hundred gallon transfer tank in the back of
    the pic would ensure anonymity by purchasing in cash from random service stations. We take separation from the world
    seriously. Such a move increases the degrees of separation radically

    Miles Stair (end times report) estimates you only really need to be in stealth mode for a year. By that time the
    unprepared golden horde would be gone.

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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    My medical stock is extensive. I can treat many conditions with the stores I have. It includes 600 homoepathic remedies, a colloidal silver maker, manuka honey, Enough mms to treat over 1000 people, an herbal garden, bandages, suture kits, medical grade ozone generator, massage table and massage skill, experience delivering babies, assorted enzyme and herbal preparations as well as instructive manuals.

    The one condition that I have not yet found effective cures for is fungal infections... except for lufeneron, which is too expensive to stock so if anyone has any ideas... Mostly I have found MMS not effective for imbedded fungal conditions.
    Tea tree oil is a good anti fungal i believe, also try the colloidal silver( wash with it ) and drink it. Good old salt water works well for this as well.

    ..Nick..

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    I must say that I get the feeling a lot of people still think that they can stay at home in the cities or close to the cities and stock up on food and items to see them through.

    Just think about what happens when starving desperate people or criminals focus on you because they want something you have.

    OK- just say there is a major disaster like an earth quake ( mag 7-9) or even a pole shift,many people are killed or are dieing and seriously injured, now I can hear some people going oh thats a bit extreme, we are all prepared with our spirituality and mental and physical preparations, we know what to do.

    Picture this in your mind: an earthquake happens( or something really big), the prisons all have inmates escape because the walls and fences were damaged.

    The zoo's have dangerous animals escape because of damaged enclosures, hungry frightened lions and whatnot running amuck looking to get away from the carnage and also looking for a feed.

    No electricity means:
    no atm's no money.
    no water.
    no petrol(gas) or diesel.
    no heat.
    no airconditioning.
    no vehicles ( roads are blocked, flooded,damaged,bridges down,fire everywhere).
    no medical help (no ambulances)
    Prisoners escaping means lots of very pissed off villans and killers running in every direction with no care for you or your family and are looking for the nearest weapons they can find,because they hold a big grudge on society.(rape,murder,hostage,kidnap).
    Animals frightened by the event trying to get to a safe place but are confused and hungry, imagine being confronted by a tiger or lion or buffalo or rhino or hippo or baboon or band of chimps.
    Smoke and dust, chemicals, toxic air,toxic water laying around,buildings collapsing,service stations exploding.

    This is just a sample of what you will have to deal with in a city or even a relatively small urbane city.

    It doesn't take long for desperate people to go to extremes to meet there needs whether you think its right or not.

    Not everybody is aware of whats coming, and that could mean war(false flag or not ) earthquake,weather extremes,tidal waves, or any combination of all of them.

    This is only my opinion but I think getting away from the populated areas is safer for you and your family,If your the only one with a car or transport that works I bet you will have trouble keeping it that way.( think of Tom Cruise in war of the worlds).

    I know it sound all doom and gloom and over the top,but I can see these events happening in our time, the tectonic plates are showing signs of moving, the weather all over the planet has gone haywire, there's earthquakes everywhere,there's floods everywhere,volcano's waking up all over the world, not to mention the dwarf star thats going to pass by and disturb our magnetic field and give us who nows how much grief.

    Just think about it and use your common sense(which doesn't seem to be that common anymore unfortunately) we will have a lot to deal with.

    How do you think most of the unaware population is going to really react if the ptw do the project bluebeam thingy with a 2 mile wide craft appearing above there heads with lots of little zippy ufo's darting all over the place looking threatening.

    I think most of them will absolutely SH#T themselves and go into a panic, just like a fox in the hen house.

    Just my 2c worth.

    ..Nick..

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    Quote Posted by TWINNICK (here)
    I must say that I get the feeling a lot of people still think that they can stay at home in the cities or close to the cities and stock up on food and items to see them through.

    Just think about what happens when starving desperate people or criminals focus on you because they want something you have.

    ..Nick..
    Ahh, now there is the rub!

    Part of this is addressed by maintaining a very low profile playing possum. This is part of the rational for the kerosene which creates no emission like a wood fire does. We are well hidden.
    Dropping trees on the only road in would discourage casual investigation.

    The next part is addressed by maintaining more than we actually need with the intention of using it for Christian charity to those who stumble on us. The key word for the rest is caching

    The last part is easy. We resolved long ago that we are not budging from our home base. If we go down, we go down right here. We are practicing Mennonites and nonresistant. So we
    would just go home. That would be bad how?

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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    The one condition that I have not yet found effective cures for is fungal infections... except for lufeneron, which is too expensive to stock so if anyone has any ideas...
    I have a concoction I prepared which successfully cured toenail fungus that had been well established below most of my toenails.

    I bought a dozen "1 OZ FLINT GLASS WIDE MOUTH BOTTLE W/ BRUSH CAPS, 33/400" from SKS Industries to hold a batch of the preparation, and for a convenient way to apply it.

    The concoction consists of mixing together one ounce each of:
    • Diclofenac (more convenient replacement for Ibuprofin)
    • ProClearz Tolnafate (1 oz liquid bottle)
    • Tea Tree Oil
    • DMSO (from veterinary supply store)
    • Coconut Oil
    • Aloe Vera
    • Lamisil Terbinafine
    I have also used this preparation on other minor fungus infections, but would hesitate to apply it to more sensitive skin.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    I have a concoction I prepared which successfully cured toenail fungus that had been well established below most of my toenails.

    I bought a dozen "1 OZ FLINT GLASS WIDE MOUTH BOTTLE W/ BRUSH CAPS, 33/400" from SKS Industries to hold a batch of the preparation, and for a convenient way to apply it
    ....
    I have also used this preparation on other minor fungus infections, but would hesitate to apply it to more sensitive skin.
    Mate, medical advice is a really thorny problem - we dont want to get the forum into trouble.

    For eg: How much do you really know about Sodium Diclofenac? Do you know about its side effects? Are you insured in case anyone follows your advice and ends up with problems? Is the forum? Are you aware that Diclofenac and Ibuprofen have different reasons not to use them - and are not really a complete replacement for each other?

    I'm not picking on you - I know you mean well, but I've heard of forums being taken down for less. This post really applies to everyone and I hope the moderators agree with me. I cant remember if it was in the guidelines or not - as I had a hand in writing them I should remember but whatever.
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    Quote Posted by John (here)
    Mate, medical advice is a really thorny problem - we dont want to get the forum into trouble.
    You raise some good questions ...

    The FAQ - Membership Guidelines states:
    Quote Posts that promote or showcase illegal drugs and other substances, pornography including nude art, foul language, racial / sexual / national intolerance, hate speech, politically subversive acts or planning, will not be tolerated.
    I don't see any other more specific relevant guideline, and this guideline doesn't specifically apply either.

    That doesn't however exonerate my post.

    I will click on the Report icon on my post above and ask the Admins if they wish to take action.

    Thanks for watching out for us.

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    Default Re: What are your preparations for any potential crisis situation?

    fungus? just try making a paste out of baking soda. alkalinity will kill any fungus. if it recurs, try again. there's a lot to be said for using household and farm stuff (herbs, roots, bark and leaves) to help accelerate healing. this is area specific though and goes with acquired learning through experience.

    in other words, in an emergency, there might be no time for reference materials.

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    One more thought on my anti-fungal concoction post, John.

    At no point in that post did I recommend some remedy to others. I only stated what I did and what I observed. In short, it was not "advice".

    As I think about this a bit more, I think that we should not fear speaking out about what we have done and we have observed. We should defend our right to present first person testimony by vigorous and repeated exercise of that right.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    At no point in that post did I recommend some remedy to others. I only stated what I did and what I observed. In short, it was not "advice".
    ...
    I think that we should not fear speaking out about what we have done and we have observed. We should defend our right to present first person testimony by vigorous and repeated exercise of that right.
    You are correct - you have a point. I have done similar with my own personal (successful) use of MMS. It is illegal in the US now, thanks to the wankers at the FDA, but it still gets discussed on the forum. I don't think I have ever recommended it to anyone or told them to take it (not that I do that for anything) - I just said it works for me, and what you do is your problem.

    The reason your post jumped out is your discussion of pharmaceuticals in off-label usage scenarios based on DIY mixtures.

    Diclofenac Sodium does have side effects that are not all the same as Ibuprofen - that is a medical fact. Doctors prescribe use the two drugs in different circumstances - that is what focussed my attention on your post. Fear is not a motivator for me - don't have much of that these days - but having this forum given one up the bum by the FDA would be inconvenient. So if nothing else, a clear disclaimer would be good. I could be wrong, you could be an MD with fully paid up indemnity insurance I am not a moderator so I will make this my last comment on the matter and leave it up to them.

    Thanks for your willingness to share and help people ! and for not getting really sh*tty with me for being picky
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    Quote Posted by John
    Diclofenac Sodium does have side effects that are not all the same as Ibuprofen
    Does your statement pertain to oral consumption, not the topical use in my concoction?

    Quote Posted by John
    Thanks for your willingness to share and help people ! and for not getting really sh*tty with me for being picky
    No problem. Thanks for staying alert.

    Quote Posted by John
    I am not a moderator so I will make this my last comment on the matter and leave it up to them.
    I reported myself a few hours ago, by clicking on the icon. I invited intervention if the moderators so chose.

    They have not intervened. I suspect they are busy enough that my report was not where they chose to spend much time.

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    Ahh, now there is the rub!

    Part of this is addressed by maintaining a very low profile playing possum. This is part of the rational for the kerosene which creates no emission like a wood fire does. We are well hidden.
    Dropping trees on the only road in would discourage casual investigation.

    The next part is addressed by maintaining more than we actually need with the intention of using it for Christian charity to those who stumble on us. The key word for the rest is caching

    The last part is easy. We resolved long ago that we are not budging from our home base. If we go down, we go down right here. We are practicing Mennonites and nonresistant. So we
    would just go home. That would be bad how?

    Hi Baggy, Don't take that personally directed at you, you sound very well set up.

    I was more speaking in general, people I've over heard around were I live and some I've spoken to.

    I believe I am about as prepared as I'll ever be for when SHTF but I still watch and learn as much as I can just in case I miss something, Avalons good for that, lots of wisdom and experienced people.

    I'd been on for quite a while reading all sorts of stuff by the time I wrote that and now going back over it LOL, I think I should have gone to bed and tried to get some sleep, I was very tired, haven't been sleeping to well for months now.( feel it coming like a lot of people here).

    I am there with you mate, if I die trying to survive this life I know that I don't really cease to exist, I'll actually be free again.( no not a bad thing at all).

    Meek as a dove and cunning as a fox is a good thing me thinks, I'll be mobile and if the truck stops working I'll leg it, out of the way somewhere quiet( HA, if at all possible).

    Peace......Nick..

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    Great Thread ! and Hello to Everyone!
    After putting away food supplies plus hidden clothing (behind cement walls)
    for a year or two, I was ready to buy self defense items and realised I could not
    make myself ever use them.

    So my dilemma was to bail out of the well stocked homestead
    and go to a place there ARE no guns, where everyone eats no matter what.
    This was my "bug-out" solution.

    http://www.cocomovillage.com/

    Anyone interested, PM me. Love to All

    ( I make no $ out of dispersing this info or if anyone joins us)
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    Quote Posted by Sol Va (here)
    Great Thread ! and Hello to Everyone!
    After putting away food supplies plus hidden clothing (behind cement walls)
    for a year or two, I was ready to buy self defense items and realised I could not
    make myself ever use them.

    So my dilemma was to bail out of the well stocked homestead
    and go to a place there ARE no guns, where everyone eats no matter what.
    This was my "bug-out" solution.

    http://www.cocomovillage.com/

    Anyone interested, PM me. Love to All

    ( I make no $ out of dispersing this info or if anyone joins us)
    Good for you. I've been thinking about Tonga for 2 years, and researching for maybe 7... Tongo seems like the only place left on earth where one could still live somewhere that TPTB seem to have just about zero interest in invading or usurping...

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    Quote Posted by Gypsy Woman (here)
    Quote Posted by Sol Va (here)
    Great Thread ! and Hello to Everyone!
    After putting away food supplies plus hidden clothing (behind cement walls)
    for a year or two, I was ready to buy self defense items and realised I could not
    make myself ever use them.

    So my dilemma was to bail out of the well stocked homestead
    and go to a place there ARE no guns, where everyone eats no matter what.
    This was my "bug-out" solution.

    http://www.cocomovillage.com/

    Anyone interested, PM me. Love to All

    ( I make no $ out of dispersing this info or if anyone joins us)
    Good for you. I've been thinking about Tonga for 2 years, and researching for maybe 7... Tongo seems like the only place left on earth where one could still live somewhere that TPTB seem to have just about zero interest in invading or usurping...
    My uncle used to make shoes for the King of Tonga and I have family there I've never even met! I didn't realise it was such a haven?!?!

    *plan starts to form*

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    Default Re: What are your preparations for any potential crisis situation?

    Self sufficiency is key to my plan.
    Im growing food, getting some ducks and have made enough biofuel to get out of the city and to wherever I need in my live-in van.
    Hopefully, a crisis situation will never happen but having a back up plan is a good idea.

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    My preparations include: common sense, keeping calm and being flexible and adaptable to all situations as we have no idea what we will face.
    Layers upon Layers...when will people wake up and stop playing their game?

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