The Democrat Party Has Ceased To Exist

[rgray222]

I apologize if the post appears to be UScentric but in reality, political parties around the globe that are sympathetic to the Democrats in America are undergoing similar changes, some have already made a full metamorphic change and some are still transitioning.

The deterioration of the Democratic Party is almost complete, its rapid demise started the day Donald Trump descended the escalator at Trump Tower and announced he was running for President. In an effort to go after Trump the 'Democrat leadership' was forced to drop all false pretenses and show their true colors. To accomplish the task of destroying Trump the mainstream media and Hollywood were also forced to openly and unabashedly show that they were working hand and glove with the Democrats. The media, Hollywood, and the Democrats were engaged in an all-out war and had lost sight of how to build a broad-based coalition. When the Democrats were fully exposed there was no denying that they had become the party of rich white elites, big tech, big banks, big media, and big business. They were now the party openly endorsing war and Global Governance. To disguise these changes censorship became and still is the hallmark of the Democrats working in collusion with big Tech.

Knowing that they would never win another election with the mantle of "the rich white party" hanging around their necks they implemented and turned a blind eye to way over-the-top policies regarding race, gender, and a host of other issues targeted at and for minorities. They have implemented a barrage of endless litigation to destroy Trump and the middle class while keeping the working class stagnant. They are simultaneously shifting the focus away from the unpopular extreme policies they have embraced.

Some high-profile members have bailed on the Democrat party such as Tulsi Gabbard and Kyrsten Sinema while other long-time liberals such as Bill Maher and Joe Rogan have spoken out against the Democrats embracing progressive policies. If I am not mistaken we have many guests and members that generally, but not always, voted Democrat. As Liberals, they now feel like the party has abandoned them.

I am wondering how others see the changes to the Democrat and Republican parties. Regardless of whether you believe voter fraud occurred in the 2020 election (that is an important issue) the two political parties set the direction as to where the country is ultimately headed. Gaining some insight into these issues sheds a bit of light on global government, war, world order, and much more.

As of today, the Democrat party is no more they have fully embraced Progressive policies.

[T Smith]

Posted elsewhere, but pertinent:

Could this be the start of a mass exodus? And if so, how will the party respond?

[ExomatrixTV]

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• "Why I left the Democrat Party"

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• The Tunnel Vision Tribalism of the Democrats are literary on a different level ... deliberately abandoning all common sense!

Sure, there is also tribalism with Republicans, but to what degree and how myopic? ... and those who claim "it is all the same" haven't studied the "group psychology" of democrats deeply enough.

ps. Am Dutch 🇳🇱 (can not vote in the USA) was a long time classic liberal, upholding basic principles & common sense that nowadays will be labeled as "far right" which is just a way to censor (shut down) critical thinking by the alt-left who hijacked the party with lots of help from WEF minions.

• There are also WEF tentacles within the "Deep State" part of the Republican Party who are "Never Trumpers" also known as "Rino's" & "Neo-Cons" betraying the party from within.

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[ozmirage]

I learned, long ago, that partisan politics is a smoke screen and guerrilla theater.
Frankly, there's little difference between Orange Man and Sniffin' Bidet. Neither dares to end the "temporary" perpetual State of Emergency, declared by "saint" FDR in 1933.
We've lived under the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic for 90 years.
The demopublicans and republicrats are just opposite wings of the same Leftist Vulture, feeding on the carcass of America.
What will arise from the ashes - ah - that's the question.

[Satori]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I apologize if the post appears to be UScentric but in reality, political parties around the globe that are sympathetic to the Democrats in America are undergoing similar changes, some have already made a full metamorphic change and some are still transitioning.

The deterioration of the Democratic Party is almost complete, its rapid demise started the day Donald Trump descended the escalator at Trump Tower and announced he was running for President. In an effort to go after Trump the 'Democrat leadership' was forced to drop all false pretenses and show their true colors. To accomplish the task of destroying Trump the mainstream media and Hollywood were also forced to openly and unabashedly show that they were working hand and glove with the Democrats. The media, Hollywood, and the Democrats were engaged in an all-out war and had lost sight of how to build a broad-based coalition. When the Democrats were fully exposed there was no denying that they had become the party of rich white elites, big tech, big banks, big media, and big business. They were now the party openly endorsing war and Global Governance. To disguise these changes censorship became and still is the hallmark the Democrats working in collusion with big Tech.

Knowing that they would never win another election with the mantle of "the rich white party" hanging around their necks they implemented and turned a blind eye to way over-the-top policies regarding race, gender, and a host of other issues targeted at minorities. They have implemented a barrage of endless litigation to destroy Trump and the middle class while keeping the working class stagnant. They are simultaneously shifting the focus away from the unpopular extreme policies they have embraced.

Some high-profile members have bailed on the Democrat party such as Tulsi Gabbard and Kyrsten Sinema while other long-time liberals such as Bill Maher and Joe Rogan have spoken out against the Democrats embracing progressive policies. If I am not mistaken we have many guests and members that generally, but not always, voted Democrat. As Liberals, they now feel like the party has abandoned them.

I am wondering how others see the changes to the Democrat and Republican parties. Regardless of whether you believe voter fraud occurred in the 2020 election (that is an important issue) the two political parties set the direction as to where the country is ultimately headed. Gaining some insight into these issues sheds a bit of light on global government, war, world order, and much more.

As of today, the Democrat party is no more they have fully embraced Progressive policies.

Very well put. Bravo.

[Rizotto]

Sorry, but my take is that Democracy has Ceased to Exist. Most Democrat AND Republican politicians fail to represent their constituents. Fact is, they represent their donors from the MIC. Both parties are operating as the One War Party, always eager to wage war on defenseless countries (or get others to do the killing) in order to steal their resources and maintain geopolitical and economic dominance, and increase the profit shares of the MIC CEOs, of which they get a cut. A recent example of this is that a majority of Congress voted to maintain the illegal occupation by USA military of a large portion of Syria. If any of them objected to the looting of Syrian oil, they were certainly a minority. The great majority on both sides approved the shipping of weapons and military aid to Ukraine. Only a few objected to the blowing up of the Nordstream pipeline.

Trump might be slightly less bad than Biden, but he's the one that strongly pushed for the covid jab. Trump also pushed the "take the oil" operations, of which he is infamously on record. The latest indictment of Trump is only an intentional distraction from the imminent crash of the US dollar and the many other crises raging through the country.

Anyway, democracy has no chance in the USA until they fix the voting system. There are a few brave individuals who will try to salvage what's left. It will be a major tour de force for Robert Kennedy Jr. to rally a majority of supporters AND stay alive. The way things look like right now, it's unlikely that the country will survive intact enough to hold elections in 2024. But, anything is possible.

[Rizotto]

Just to add to my post above, here's one more on Trump: He's planning a military attack on Mexico. I'm sure there will be many Democrats that will agree with Trump on this one.
(Perhaps there is a tiny bit of a possibility that Trump's plan might have something to do with the fact that the Mexican president recently discussed Mexico joining the BRICS. Just my guess.)

Trump seeking ‘military options’ for Mexican cartels – media
https://www.rt.com/news/574386-trump...itary-options/

[Pam]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Sorry, but my take is that Democracy has Ceased to Exist. Most Democrat AND Republican politicians fail to represent their constituents. Fact is, they represent their donors from the MIC. Both parties are operating as the One War Party, always eager to wage war on defenseless countries (or get others to do the killing) in order to steal their resources and maintain geopolitical and economic dominance, and increase the profit shares of the MIC CEOs, of which they get a cut. A recent example of this is that a majority of Congress voted to maintain the illegal occupation by USA military of a large portion of Syria. If any of them objected to the looting of Syrian oil, they were certainly a minority. The great majority on both sides approved the shipping of weapons and military aid to Ukraine. Only a few objected to the blowing up of the Nordstream pipeline.

Trump might be slightly less bad than Biden, but he's the one that strongly pushed for the covid jab. Trump also pushed the "take the oil" operations, of which he is infamously on record. The latest indictment of Trump is only an intentional distraction from the imminent crash of the US dollar and the many other crises raging through the country.

Anyway, democracy has no chance in the USA until they fix the voting system. There are a few brave individuals who will try to salvage what's left. It will be a major tour de force for Robert Kennedy Jr. to rally a majority of supporters AND stay alive. The way things look like right now, it's unlikely that the country will survive intact enough to hold elections in 2024. But, anything is possible.

I have to agree with you, Rizotto. The US is no more than a "banana republic". The government is now blatently using the same tactics that it has used on other countries over the years, placing a mindless, proxy government to do the bidding of the deep state. We are now the recipients of the same thing so many other countries have experienced for the benefits of corporations and the funneling of wealth to the chosen few. Monopolizing the natural resources of the area or building a strategic military base.

Even if Robert Kennedy were to win, he would be stymied at every level, although, I realize there is still a glimmer of hope left in me. He understands how corporations work, how they buy influence. He gets the whole corruption thing, maybe better than anyone. The Democrats as ridiculous as they are, have to be aware that Biden can't possibly run again. He was brought in as a wrecking ball for this country. Every week he does something to bring it down. That is his role, to bring it down and then shortly he will die. So did they want to martyr Trump? I can't help but believe the whole damn thing is nothing but political theater. As I have said before, it is much like staged wrestling matches, we have the good guy fighting the bad guy. All of it. If you play your role, you get rich, if you don't you are ousted, defamed and maybe killed. I am not so sure, that Trump is not playing his role and the whole silly thing was staged. I might be wrong, but if nothing else it shows the absurdity of the political show. It is blatantly insane.

Even if we were to put a bandaid on this corrupt, filthy system it will only prolong this existence. There are so many issues in this country that are falling apart that there is no fixing it.

I am a strong believer in cycles, everything in our existence is cyclic, it always has been. The cycles seem to be fractal in nature. This cycle of humanity and its system is coming to an end.This way of doing things will be over soon. I don't have an exact timeline, but it's definitely ending. I am not saying we are all going to die, although many probably will (in fact they are and have been).The time of the US super power has sputtered to it's end. This era, age, yuga or whatever you want to call it is coming to a conclusion. In fact, I believe we are going to be the recipients of the ending of multiple cycles .The democratic and republic system will be dust in the wind of times. Then a new story will emerge and it will be brighter until the corruption begins again. That appears to be the bigger picture of life in this reality construct.

I am both honored and to be honest rather petrified to be here at this time. I both look forward to and dread what is coming. I haven't been able to maintain neutrality to what is happening to children and the animals, but I pretty much accept the destiny of adults.

I apologize for wandering off topic a bit. But the democratic party is a puzzle piece in the whole puzzle..and I agree, it certainly doesn't look anything like what it used to look like. It has been weaponized. It's rotten insides are becoming visable. They use things that were started for altruistic reasons and weaponize them into instruments of hate and division. The funny thing is if I polled most of the people in my rural area they would gladly vote democratic.

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[rgray222]

Posted by ozmirage (here)
I learned, long ago, that partisan politics is a smoke screen and guerrilla theater.
Frankly, there's little difference between Orange Man and Sniffin' Bidet. Neither dares to end the "temporary" perpetual State of Emergency, declared by "saint" FDR in 1933.
We've lived under the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic for 90 years.
The demopublicans and republicrats are just opposite wings of the same Leftist Vulture, feeding on the carcass of America.
What will arise from the ashes - ah - that's the question.

I have a lot of respect for your inherent understanding of the inner workings of the government. That said, I have believed for many years the two political parties were simply different sides of the same coin. They both had identical goals they just took different roads to get there. I no longer believe that to be true.

Young minds have been indoctrinated in colleges and universities for decades. Those young minds are now in the mainstream, they make up the fabric of corporate America and government. When you put on top of that the likes of progressive billionaire financiers George Soros and Taco Bell heir Rob McKay funding extreme causes (BLM, Democracy Alliance, etc) and backing extreme progressive candidates like Alvin Bragg and the new mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson you then get a political direction and party that we have never seen before (at least in the USA). What appears to be emerging out of the ashes of the Democrat party is something much more sinister than Socialism lite, it seems to be more in line with Marxism.

On the other hand, the Republican party has not figured out what it wants to be. This can be easily understood by observing the slow-changing thinking of Republicans about the war in Ukraine. The establishment (never Trumpers) want this war and they are prepared to stay indefinitely and spend exorbitantly. The stronger contingent that is slowly emerging wants out of the war, they want the minorities and working-class voters onboard. The working class and minorities have been knocking hard on the door but the old establishment Republicans (never Trumpers) have not given them complete access yet. I don't think we will know the full direction of the Republican party until a candidate emerges for the 2024 election.

If the Republican party does not allow sufficient access to minorities and the working class we will then be on the road back to a one-party system operating under two different names for and by the elites. This time both parties will be marching towards Socialism/Marxism and one world government.

[mijatoca]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I apologize if the post appears to be UScentric but in reality, political parties around the globe that are sympathetic to the Democrats in America are undergoing similar changes, some have already made a full metamorphic change and some are still transitioning.

The deterioration of the Democratic Party is almost complete, its rapid demise started the day Donald Trump descended the escalator at Trump Tower and announced he was running for President. In an effort to go after Trump the 'Democrat leadership' was forced to drop all false pretenses and show their true colors. To accomplish the task of destroying Trump the mainstream media and Hollywood were also forced to openly and unabashedly show that they were working hand and glove with the Democrats. The media, Hollywood, and the Democrats were engaged in an all-out war and had lost sight of how to build a broad-based coalition. When the Democrats were fully exposed there was no denying that they had become the party of rich white elites, big tech, big banks, big media, and big business. They were now the party openly endorsing war and Global Governance. To disguise these changes censorship became and still is the hallmark the Democrats working in collusion with big Tech.

Knowing that they would never win another election with the mantle of "the rich white party" hanging around their necks they implemented and turned a blind eye to way over-the-top policies regarding race, gender, and a host of other issues targeted at minorities. They have implemented a barrage of endless litigation to destroy Trump and the middle class while keeping the working class stagnant. They are simultaneously shifting the focus away from the unpopular extreme policies they have embraced.

Some high-profile members have bailed on the Democrat party such as Tulsi Gabbard and Kyrsten Sinema while other long-time liberals such as Bill Maher and Joe Rogan have spoken out against the Democrats embracing progressive policies. If I am not mistaken we have many guests and members that generally, but not always, voted Democrat. As Liberals, they now feel like the party has abandoned them.

I am wondering how others see the changes to the Democrat and Republican parties. Regardless of whether you believe voter fraud occurred in the 2020 election (that is an important issue) the two political parties set the direction as to where the country is ultimately headed. Gaining some insight into these issues sheds a bit of light on global government, war, world order, and much more.

As of today, the Democrat party is no more they have fully embraced Progressive policies.

Hi Rgray. Could you elaborate on the harmful aspects of the "progressive policies" I read in your link? I don't see anything but positive stuff there. I think the majority of Americans would be in favor of each line item. You don't believe the majority should have their say? Do you know the majority of Americans have voted Democratic in all US Presidential elections since 1988? Google it. Please tell me why I am so misguided if you would.

[rgray222]

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Hi Rgray. Could you elaborate on the harmful aspects of the "progressive policies" I read in your link? I don't see anything but positive stuff there. I think the majority of Americans would be in favor of each line item. You don't believe the majority should have their say? Do you know the majority of Americans have voted Democratic in all US Presidential elections since 1988? Google it. Please tell me why I am so misguided if you would.

The progressive tenants are interesting, appealing, and even compelling, in the abstract. But we live in the dark, bleak real world, where the costs of abstract hypotheses outlined in the progressive promise are borne by real people. That has become readily apparent to all those Americans suffering through coast-to-coast crime way which can be directly attributed to the progressive “defund the police movement.” Every aspect of “wokeness” is progressive orthodoxy.

Progressives want to expand (pack) the Supreme Court so that liberal or conservative judges will rarely have an opportunity to serve. Progressive aristocracy wants to eliminate the electoral college which has allowed “all” Americans a voice in their country for almost 250 years.

Are there aspects of Progressivism (if that's a word) that are appealing, certainly but if you read the tenants of Marxism....well, we know how that turned out.

Hooray to you for reading the Progressive Promise.

[mijatoca]

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Hi Rgray. Could you elaborate on the harmful aspects of the "progressive policies" I read in your link? I don't see anything but positive stuff there. I think the majority of Americans would be in favor of each line item. You don't believe the majority should have their say? Do you know the majority of Americans have voted Democratic in all US Presidential elections since 1988? Google it. Please tell me why I am so misguided if you would.

The progressive tenants are interesting, appealing, and even compelling, in the abstract. But we live in the dark, bleak real world, where the costs of abstract hypotheses outlined in the progressive promise are borne by real people. That has become readily apparent to all those Americans suffering through coast-to-coast crime way which can be directly attributed to the progressive “defund the police movement.” Every aspect of “wokeness” is progressive orthodoxy.

Progressives want to expand (pack) the Supreme Court so that liberal or conservative judges will rarely have an opportunity to serve. Progressive aristocracy wants to eliminate the electoral college which has allowed “all” Americans a voice in their country for almost 250 years.

Are there aspects of Progressivism (if that's a word) that are appealing, certainly but if you read the tenants of Marxism....well, we know how that turned out.

Hooray to you for reading the Progressive Promise.

Lots of word salad there. The fact remains that the majority of Americans don't agree with you. I base my beliefs on tangible evidence.

[rgray222]

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Lots of word salad there. The fact remains that the majority of Americans don't agree with you. I base my beliefs on tangible evidence.

I would love to hear whatever tangible evidence you have that Americans feel favorable about progressive policies. From everything I read, they are against defunding the police, open borders, biological men playing women's sports, packing the Supreme Court, doing away with the Electoral College, teaching Critical Race Theory in schools, surgical and medicinal irreversible procedures for children under 16 ect.

[mijatoca]

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Lots of word salad there. The fact remains that the majority of Americans don't agree with you. I base my beliefs on tangible evidence.

I would love to hear whatever tangible evidence you have that Americans feel favorable about progressive policies. From everything I read, they are against defunding the police, open borders, biological men playing women's sports, packing the Supreme Court, doing away with the Electoral College, teaching Critical Race Theory in schools, surgical and medicinal irreversible procedures for children under 16 ect.

Defunding the police. What? Where has that happened?
Open borders. What? How has that changed? Oh, ok. I think I saw something about that on Fox news. Must be true.
I'm not for transgender sports at all. Agreed! Yay!
Packing the court? Ever heard of Merrick Garland and Mitch McConnel?. Come on.
Critical Race Theory is not taught below University level. Your statement is meant to be blatant disinformation.
Gender Surgical Procedures. I'm not informed enough to give an opinion. My gut tells me that it is more about asking for solutions without a problem. I would liken that one to voter fraud touted as a rampant issue that is in reality inconsequential vs the response by the right to limit voters. Gender affirming surgery I would guess is in reality a nothingburger except for those that need a boogyman to relieve dissonance. I know a diversion when I see it. I'm 62, almost 63.

[mijatoca]

Here is some commentary I agree with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_voOkr3KQ

Please watch if you have 11 minutes to spare.

Mike

Michael James Toner from Canada

[rgray222]

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Lots of word salad there. The fact remains that the majority of Americans don't agree with you. I base my beliefs on tangible evidence.

I would love to hear whatever tangible evidence you have that Americans feel favorable about progressive policies. From everything I read, they are against defunding the police, open borders, biological men playing women's sports, packing the Supreme Court, doing away with the Electoral College, teaching Critical Race Theory in schools, surgical and medicinal irreversible procedures for children under 16 ect.

Defunding the police. What? Where has that happened?
Open borders. What? How has that changed? Oh, ok. I think I saw something about that on Fox news. Must be true.
I'm not for transgender sports at all. Agreed! Yay!
Packing the court? Ever heard of Merrick Garland and Mitch McConnel?. Come on.
Critical Race Theory is not taught below University level. Your statement is meant to be blatant disinformation.
Gender Surgical Procedures. I'm not informed enough to give an opinion. My gut tells me that it is more about asking for solutions without a problem. I would liken that one to voter fraud touted as a rampant issue that is in reality inconsequential vs the response by the right to limit voters. Gender affirming surgery I would guess is in reality a nothingburger except for those that need a boogyman to relieve dissonance. I know a diversion when I see it. I'm 62, almost 63.

Defunding the police. What? Where has that happened?
Nearly $1 Billion Is Shifted From Police in Budget That Pleases No One -NYTimes
Austin City Council cuts police department budget by one-third - Texas Tribune
Many more cities cut police budgets too many put here but you can research it.

Open borders. What? How has that changed? Oh, ok. I think I saw something about that on Fox News. Must be true.
Immigration is needed in the USA but not illegal immigration. Thousand of women are being raped, children are being molested, sex trafficked and thousand of immigrants have died making the journey. It is horrific
Biden's Border Crisis is worst in American History - Politico
5.5 Million Illegal Aliens Have Crossed the Border in Biden's first 18 months - PR New wire
Mexico Border Crossing Facts - U.S. Immigration Explainer
Border Crossing hit historic lows under Trump
Under Trump Illegal immigration at U.S.-Mexico border hits historic low - AZCENTRAL

I'm not for transgender sports at all. Agreed! Yay!

Packing the court? Ever heard of Merrick Garland and Mitch McConnel? Come on.
You may not like what McConnell did, I certainly didn't but it was not packing the court and it was not illegal. Packing the court is taking the number of associate justices from 9 to 13 or from 9 to 15. Biden considered this for the first 4 months of his presidency but when the polls all came back against packing the court he said he wasn't going to do it.
Expanding Supreme Court Opposed by Americans, Even After Roe Decision: Poll - Newsweek
Supreme Court Expansion Remains Unpopular - morningconsult

Critical Race Theory is not taught below University level. Your statement is meant to be blatant disinformation.
The reason teaching critical race theory to children even became an issue is because the closure of schools and the lockdown forced parents to stay home and children to use their computers for remote learning. Millions of parents watched their young children being taught CRT and they were furious. They began attending school board meetings demanding change. If you remember it became a huge national issue. Many states and schools are still doing it against the wishes of black and white parent. If you decide to research this be careful, big tech has made this a field of land mines with tons of misinformation along the way.
Yes, Critical Race Theory Is Being Taught in Schools - aeromagazine

Gender Surgical Procedures. I'm not informed enough to give an opinion.
You should get informed this is an important issue. Many hospitals and teaching universities have recently stopped doing the surgeries on children and removed all mention of it from their website when Tucker Carlson ran stories
Tucker Carlson: Hospitals are mutilating children

[pyrangello]

The Dems have definitely drifted away from what they use to be, they abandoned the unions, they abandoned the black communities, Biden I don't believe got 1 police endorsement when he ran, they are now pro-war just like the R side, and pro alphabet community are now going after little kids to change their gender not even hiding what they want to do and heaven forbid like this nashville shooter once is was announced it was a trans, the story went away and that's because most of the media is in bed with the Dems too. There are many teachers that would like to say something but are afraid of loosing their jobs. Here in Michigan the teachers union is stronger than the state employee union. I was speaking to a gal who is going to retire in 2 years, I said you could work at this charter school here in town, she said in her retirement package even though she is retired she is not allowed to work at a charter school and if she did would loose her pension. FYI I think Robert F Kennedy Jr. is alright in my book, always listen to him when I can.

Now take when congress voted on the legitimacy of the election, 100 representatives presented evidence of election fraud and had 10 days to review, 35o in congress never looked at it and voted without a sneeze, they didn't do there constitutional duty. D's and R's both. The swamp is filled to the gills, most of our congress are attorneys by profession and they don't like to follow any laws.I really think thats why are country is so screwed up now. The entire system is FUBAR now.

As for Trump and the border , illegals were running 70k a month when trump was in office , we are at now like 270k a month. It is out of control, when the dems had the presidency, house and senate for 2 years they did nothing to secure the border at all. Bringing in the military for the border per Trump , by all means please do. Many people think ah that's too harsh. My X brother n law is a pastor just over the border in Mexico, he has been building an orphanage there for 30 years , I saw him a few years ago and he was telling me how ruthless the gangs are at the border . One resident they killed there , they cut his face off and sewed it on a basket ball and threw it into the town as a warning . Oh yeah lets just negotiate with them or like the new mayor in Chicago, will hire more people to counsel and reason more with people that commit crimes. Uh huh!

I respectfully just listened to that guy in the video, That guy should should go live in china for a while , he might be more comfortable there.

[mijatoca]

OK. I feel like i'm talking into the wind. We agree to disagree I guess. All the best.

Mike