Is this becoming the all Charles forum

[plumr2007]

I'm not convinced yet that this guy is the real deal. Meanwhile everyone is falling all over themselves to ask this guy questions like he's the esoteric Ann Landers. Am I wrong ? If so please tell me how we actually know he's not a BS artist. Pardon my frankness but I'm from the Bronx ( the show me state ).

[OneLittleFrog]

Posted by plumr2007 (here)
I'm not convinced yet that this guy is the real deal. Meanwhile everyone is falling all over themselves to ask this guy questions like he's the esoteric Ann Landers. Am I wrong ? If so please tell me how we actually know he's not a BS artist. Pardon my frankness but I'm from the Bronx ( the show me state ).

Speaking as respectfully as I can here.....

I does seem Avalon has become the 'Charles the Messiah' site. I truly don't feel opposing viewpoints are welcome. Personally, I feel Avalon is being masterfully stroked to fall into this cultish, rapturous army -- going in completely the wrong direction. But that's just my viewpoint, and who's going to listen to a frog, anyway?

On the other hand, I've admired Bill for too long to completely reject his words -- and there's the rub, isn't it? Between trusting Bill and trusting my own spirit voices; well, I've gotta stick with the fam.....

BTW, I thought Missouri was the Show Me state?

[plumr2007]

BTW, I thought Missouri was the Show Me state?

Never heard of it! LOL

[mrmalco]

The answers are giving us Charles's profile. The questions are giving him this site's members' profile. My first thought has been that Bill has sat in front of Charles and seen something for himself of the man. So I'm trying to be patient. What it has shown IMO is that one main fuel of this site is curiosity and a longing for vicarious sensation. But there's a lot else. A lot of positive and compassionate emotion. And loads of humour. I've been wondering what the reaction will be when Charles simply isn't here any more. Will we return to our ever lengthening listings of all the evidence for something coming upon the world that we (and those on numerous other such sites) can never quite agree upon and never quite discern? Mumble, mumble ... he wanders away musing to himself.

[plumr2007]

OneLittleFrog don't feel that your viewpoints aren't welcome. They are as valid as anyones . If this forum were to get to that point I'd be gone so fast the wind would slam the door shut behind me. Peace!

BTW I really did know about Missouri. Its near Hawaii right?

[OneLittleFrog]

Thanks, plumr2007. I agree.

Posted by plumr2007 (here)
BTW I really did know about Missouri. Its near Hawaii right?

In some universes, yes.

(I know you were kidding. )

[Sentience]

Posted by plumr2007 (here)
OneLittleFrog don't feel that your viewpoints aren't welcome. They are as valid as anyones . If this forum were to get to that point I'd be gone so fast the wind would slam the door shut behind me. Peace!

BTW I really did know about Missouri. Its near Hawaii right?

Well at least one member has been shown the exit door for not toeing the Charles party line. Dangerous precident if you ask me. I remain unconvinced but have purposefully refrained from taking part in the discussion as It feels as frog has said that dissenting opinions will not be tolerated.

[sepia]

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Thank you for this thread.

Sitting at any Masters feet, in fascination and awe can make us forget how we can become Masters ourselves.

[GK76]

Posted by plumr2007 (here)
I'm not convinced yet that this guy is the real deal. Meanwhile everyone is falling all over themselves to ask this guy questions like he's the esoteric Ann Landers. Am I wrong ? If so please tell me how we actually know he's not a BS artist. Pardon my frankness but I'm from the Bronx ( the show me state ).

You will never 'know' what his true intentions are until you decide... to begin, much comes down to belief until you have an understanding as to where his material fits (or doesn't fit) into your life.
You question why people are falling over themselves to ask questions... it's so we get close enough to knowing to satisfy the sceptic in us, and to advance or end the situation. To have the opportunity to ask questions, yet not take it, would be ridiculous - especially for the most sceptical.

The journey has just begun - time will tell; until then I'll keep an open mind (but not too open so my brain falls out).

[greybeard]

As said on another thread. Since Charles arrived the the number of clicks on "The Ego what is it how to transcend it" thread has doubled.
So it hasn't become the all Charles forum.

I am not the body or mind so while I am interested in and care for the people on this forum, I realise all too well that life is short and to be enjoyed, responsibly.
Do what you can but there is an ultimate Authority I trust Him.

The advice put no head above your own is respectful as I put no head below mine either,
People dont know more than anyone else they just know different stuff so it depends what you are attracted to or fel you need.

Im attracted to Search ye first the kingdom of Heaven and this too shall be added to you.
Im laying up treasure in Heaven.
I believe Jesus when he said
The Father is within me and I m within the Father. We are waves of the Divine Ocean and to that Ocean for sure we all return.
We are eternal beings having a human experience.
Love all serve all.

Chris

[meeradas]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Do what you can but there is an ultimate Authority I trust Him.

Thanks, Chris.

"Look within" is the key.

[Innerbliss]

Is it just me or is Charles quite vague in most of his answers??

[firstlook]

Whatever you make of the material, it certainly has exposed alot of questions people have. If only one good thing to know, is that people are thinking.

[Lettherebelight]

The answers that Charles can answer, he has, with quite a bit of detail in most cases.
Think about how he has described his Master, the process of being questioned by the council of 33. The 'machine' etc. If he is the real deal, then he has told us loads.
Some questions he doesn't know the answer to, and he admits that. Some questions he can't answer because it's classified. He's probably got other things to do as well, so all things considered, he's given us a lot more air time than any other witness.
We're in unchartered waters here. Let's listen to see which way the wind blows...
Love to you

[eris23]

I am new to the forum and although I have been watching the avalon/camelot interviews for a few years, just decided to join on account of the Charles material. There is so much to read through on all these threads that I have not felt like posting unless I can think of something new to contribute. There is something very compelling about it all. I have also enjoyed the other topics on the forum.

Louise

[Gone001]

Its kind of funny; your concerns are about the Forum becoming centered around Charles, so you go and start a thread about Charles? Makes sense to me . If you don't trust the guy then just keep this saying in mind "Keep your friends close and your enemy's even closer". Either way your gaining perspective so I don't really see the problem.

[Garry Irwin]

Posted by Sentience (here)
Well at least one member has been shown the exit door for not toeing the Charles party line. Dangerous precident if you ask me. I remain unconvinced but have purposefully refrained from taking part in the discussion as It feels as frog has said that dissenting opinions will not be tolerated.

It's not what you say but how you say it.
That was why the person in question was shown the door.
I'm all for fair open-minded debate, but some cross the line and then it degenerates into a slanging match.
That kind of abuse may be acceptable on you-tube, but this is Project Avalon and we're a little more civilised here.

Having said that... By Charles' admission we know that he "creates division", that's what he does. I see a division here... Mission accomplished?

[Agape]

Posted by sepia (here)
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Thank you for this thread.

Sitting at any Masters feet, in fascination and awe can make us forget how we can become Masters ourselves.

Apologies to you Sepia, it's not for the good work you've done..

but I find this all flood over forums an easy take lesson about how can be people skilfully manipulated to become followers of any cult of truth in this world,

if the material is presented 'the right way'.

Bill has done the most work about it, the lads heart maybe as pure as innocent but things he speaks about, both reality and fiction,
many have spoken about and could never prove.

Dragging 'His Masters Feet' into this domain is another proof for the upper echelon on how easy it is for Bill to manipulate a crowd of people.

I find ridiculous to observe how anyone, I say anyone, is bowing their heads to an unknown Master and his alleged disciple after few days of promotion,

just because 'Bill said' . It's a mastership of his own, that can't be denied, large following of people..


I would not dare to do this , not to my teachers, not to calling in others to follow but again,

I'm not what you call , exactly 'human' in my nature. I find lots of things odd and crazy and examining people, trusting them , being friends takes long time to me here .



Be your own Masters, anyway, is more correct.



Till we can find a common grounds

[bluestflame]

I believe what we are now experiencing , and many are drawing attention to , in thier own way , is commonly referred to, as a "period of adjustment "

[Agape]

Posted by bluestflame (here)
I believe what we are now experiencing , and many are drawing attention to , in thier own way , is commonly referred to, as a "period of adjustment "

People are generally fond of 'experiencing' something they believe to lead them somewhere else than they are ..
they call it 'hope'..