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    Default Know the difference between "LAWFUL" and "LEGAL"? - info by John Harris


    Map taken from:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_systems_of_the_world




    Know the difference between "LAWFUL" and "LEGAL"?
    Learn how the systems we live under are more elementary than we realise.
    These lectures touch on subjects which Jordan Maxwell mentions in his various lectures.

    The attached lectures by John Harris make it very clear how the world is really working
    right in front of our eyes. They clear up what Jordan refers to as Maratine Commercial Law or UCC.
    The law of the land and the law of the sea.



    John Harris - It's an illusion (5 parts)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/BBC5tv#g...4EF8D2C5860622



    from youtube:
    John Harris gives us his perspective on what's going on. He describes how we are economic slaves to a debt dependant system, notably achieved through the deception of the birth certificate and the creation of a legal fiction known as your 'PERSON'. It is this PERSON that the government then wields it's control upon. Although John points out that this arrangement only works when we consent.

    Unfortunately inaction is taken as consent, hence we have unwittingly surrendered our inalienable rights through identifying with the PERSON. Remember you are a human being with god given rights, all you have to do is claim them.

    Also the difference between a policeman and a police officer is described.

    Filmed at the The British Constitution Group Lawful Rebellion Conference in Stoke-on-Trent on the 24th January 2009.


    Watching this lecture might promt you to get a copy of Black's Law Dictionary:
    http://www.filestube.com/search.html...ary&select=All



    John Harris - Undermining Democracy (6 parts)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/BBC5tv#g...59EA43815CBBC4


    [I]Filmed at the 3rd Lawful Rebellion Conference, London, 31st October 2009 by BBC5.tv[I]





    Following up these videos are also interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmfyhDSXHFk


    Freeman In Gloucester Court 29th Jan 2010 Part 1.

    English Freeman on the Land Ray St.Clair once again stands in a UK Magistrates court with other Freedom Rebels and challenges the false authority of the courts. This time the magistrates fail to produce their oaths and get up and quit the courtroom TWICE - full story from ...

    http://freedomrebels.co.uk/


    Freeman in court fighting U.K. Council Tax 1 of 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Zc2_CEw4I


    Freeman in court fighting U.K. Council Tax 1 of 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ0X799Mpgc
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    Default Re: Know the difference between "LAWFUL" and "LEGAL"? - info by John Harris

    Thanks Kenk. This a great forum for Freeman stuff too.

    http://www.fmotl.com/forum/index.php

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    AH YES, i saw this video too recently. laughed how it all turned out. the bow was very subtle.


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    Thats great. This is the subject that first peaked my interest. I'd only ever heard of one example, and had never seen anyone use it so great. do you guys have any more links on this kind of thing.

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    Quote Posted by Futuro (here)
    do you guys have any more links on this kind of thing.



    Indeed we do < http://scottishsovereignsontheland.ning.com/ >
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    Default Re: Know the difference between "LAWFUL" and "LEGAL"?

    Thanks for this kenkyushiryo, I was first alerted to this by my mother about a year ago, she saw it on telly, which shows how widely John Harris is becoming known. Hadn't seen the actual videos taken from within the courts though!

    Another brother in this fight is a man called Stuart Hill, his website is www.forvik.com Not quite the same situation, but he has been trying to get into a British court under any challenge possible. He does not pay tax, issues his own currency, issues his own car registration plates for his car and claims his island, in the Shetlands, to be a crown dependency. They have not so far given him his day in court, where he will ask them one simple question "when did the crown gain sovereignty over the Shetlands?"

    Seems they never did and his island and the Shetlands are still officially under Norse Law.

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    Thank you for the videos, they're great.

    Many years ago when I was living in my birth country, there was a TV series (american) about a group of young guys who were starting their first year of law school.

    The young students used to be afraid of a very old teacher who was like a god to them, very strict and serious, the teacher's last name was Whitaker or something like that and I remember that when they were learning about the power of contracts, many examples were shown and discussed of different kinds of "consent" to contract.

    I was very young then but I was amazed of what I saw because in my country there was nothing like that. As I recall many things of commercial or uniform law were seen in that show. It was in the 80s.

    Does somebody remember the name of the show? I've been trying to find videos of it but I don't even remember its name in Spanish let alone in English. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of information there...

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    Thank you for the videos, they're great.

    Many years ago when I was living in my birth country, there was a TV series (american) about a group of young guys who were starting their first year of law school.

    The young students used to be afraid of a very old teacher who was like a god to them, very strict and serious, the teacher's last name was Whitaker or something like that and I remember that when they were learning about the power of contracts, many examples were shown and discussed of different kinds of "consent" to contract.

    I was very young then but I was amazed of what I saw because in my country there was nothing like that. As I recall many things of commercial or uniform law were seen in that show. It was in the 80s.

    Does somebody remember the name of the show? I've been trying to find videos of it but I don't even remember its name in Spanish let alone in English. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of information there...


    you dont mean LA law do you?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.A._Law

    thats the closest thing i can recall from 20 or more years ago!

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    you dont mean LA law do you?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.A._Law

    thats the closest thing i can recall from 20 or more years ago!
    No my friend, it wasn't a series about a law firm, it was about law students going to the day to day classes, one of them used to work at a pizzeria in his spare time, it was a guy with wavy shoulder length hair. The teacher was an old guy, who was supposed to be the wisest of all... it was a group of 5 or 6 six students, I don't remember very well.

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    ooooh... how lucky I am, I found it!! The series was The Paper Chase, I'm going to take a look and if I find something interested I'll post it.

    This is the teacher....




    Does anybody here remember this show and what it was about?
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    No my friend, it wasn't a series about a law firm, it was about law students going to the day to day classes, one of them used to work at a pizzeria in his spare time, it was a guy with wavy shoulder length hair. The teacher was an old guy, who was supposed to be the wisest of all... it was a group of 5 or 6 six students, I don't remember very well.
    then it must be this one you mean
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pap...28TV_series%29

    never heard of it, but having a quick read over the desciption it sounds more like it.

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    Quote Posted by cloud9 (here)
    ooooh... how lucky I am, I found it!! The series was The Paper Chase, I'm going to take a look and if I find something interested I'll post it.

    This is the teacher....




    Does anybody here remember this show and what it was about?


    hahaha, you found it the same time

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    Hi, if you wany to know a great deal more Johns website is:

    http://www.tpuc.org

    And his forum, which is full of good info is:

    http://tpuc.org/forum/index.php
    Normal..!

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    Thank you, what a shame there's not much on you tube but I clearly remember several classes about contracts and consent....

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    www.creditorsincommerce.com - go to the audio tab and listen to your hearts content for weeks. Best data on the net bar none.

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    This is another interesting series of videos. Mary Elizabeth Croft wrote a book about the subject. I always wonder why she is not more know...

    A pdf of the book can be found here

    http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/f...mary_croft.pdf


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    This guys great.


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    Not that anybody cares when they are all hyped up on freeman stuff, but has anybody bothered to address that in Canada a judge bows every time he leaves the courtroom regardless of the case?

    Standard operating procedure.

    You bring the claim, you have the liability.

    If you want to claim ownership of the name (regardless of punctuation or capitalisation or anything else), YOU HAVE THE LIABILITY.
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    Quote Posted by KistheMum (here)
    Not that anybody cares when they are all hyped up on freeman stuff, but has anybody bothered to address that in Canada a judge bows every time he leaves the courtroom regardless of the case?

    Standard operating procedure.

    You bring the claim, you have the liability.

    If you want to claim ownership of the name (regardless of punctuation or capitalisation or anything else), YOU HAVE THE LIABILITY.
    That is done in all jurisdictions that are based on the English system.
    When the judicial officer enters and they say ''All rise'' they used to walk in with the bible over their heads to signify that there is no one above the law.
    They don't do that anymore of course.
    I never bow to any man or woman and I make it a point to eyeball them when I enter the court room so they see that I know they see me not bowing.

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    That is done in all jurisdictions that are based on the English system.
    When the judicial officer enters and they say ''All rise'' they used to walk in with the bible over their heads to signify that there is no one above the law.
    They don't do that anymore of course.
    I never bow to any man or woman and I make it a point to eyeball them when I enter the court room so they see that I know they see me not bowing.


    The point of saying "all rise": when the judge enters the room and all rise is said, people do it automatically without any thinking but at that moment they have entered into a contract because they accepted the order to rise, from there on everything that is said in the court is part of a contract.

    When the judge asks: please said your name for the record, the person who says it is accepting the contract and so on and on....

    That's why the ones who are fighting the system do not say their name or rise, if they don't the judge has no jurisdiction and there's no case.

    Those are some things I remember from the tv show the paper chase and other places.

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