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    Quote Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach. This is one of the many reasons we are not educated to the use or ingestion of iodine and why iodine was taken out of bread products and replaced with bromide, a totally worthless substance for the body.... its all part of the campaign to dumb us down.
    Hi all, please be aware to exercise some caution with self administration of iodine. It can result in "iodine goitre" (as opposed to goitre resutling from insufficient iodine) and Iodine excess can also cause thyroid underactivity, because large amounts of iodine block the thyroid's ability to make hormones. Of course there is Thorotoxicosis that can lead to a Thyroid Storm with a mortality rate of only 50% http://www.surgical-tutor.org.uk/def...osis.htm~right. I have nursed a patient with this - pretty scary stuff

    I do have a certain well earned respect for iodine and its not something we should be taking without proper caution and preferrably not without serum levels being initially taken.

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    All due respect Arrowwind - I understand that Flouride does accumulate in the pineal glad however there appears to be little evidence to support Iodine as being able to displace it.

    From this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...1920#post91920

    The following article explains why iodine cannot displace fluoride, chlorine or bromine:

    http://www.palett.co.uk/energiodine.html

    The mechanism behind "halogen displacement" was probably best described by J.C. Jarvis, M.D. ( Folk Medicine, Henry Holt & Co., 1958, HB, p. 136), who wrote:
    "The clinical activity of any one of these four halogens is in inverse proportion to its atomic weight.

    This means that any one of the four can displace the element with a higher atomic weight, but cannot displace an element with a lower atomic weight.

    For example, fluorine can displace chlorine, bromine and iodine because fluorine has a lower atomic weight than the other three.
    Similarly, chlorine can displace bromine and iodine because they both have a higher atomic weight.
    Likewise, bromine can displace iodine from the body because iodine has a higher atomic weight.
    But a reverse order is not possible."

    The atomic weights are:
    Fluorine 18.99
    Chlorine 35.45
    Bromine 79.90
    Iodine 126.70

    Therefore, any "halogen detox" symptoms one experiences with iodine are likely to be either from the iodine killing off bacteria, pathogens and/or viruses, and consequently the liver, etc, having to deal with this toxic dump. Or it could also be from mercury being mobilised in the body.

    Mercury has a heavier atomic weight than iodine (200.59 to be exact), so maybe this is why iodine can displace it. Not sure if it forms to become mercury Iodide if iodiDe is present (Here is interesting link about mercury iodide, presenting even more interesting implications for thyroid http://www.contech.com/Mercuric_Iodide_Detectors.htm).

    Trust this assist in making informed decisions - Bit off Topic, sorry

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    For each important subtle centre in the body there is at equivalent gross manifestation. With ajna chakra the physica equivalent is the pineal gland, which has long baffled doctors anc scientists as to it precise function. For more than 2000 years the pineal gland has been the subject of intense philosophical speculation. Now however, in the light of the most recent medical discoveries there is no doubt about the role the pineal gland plays in the psychic faculties of man. Of all the organs in the body, no other organ has been subject to as many changes and developments in the course of evolution as the pineal gland. Research on fossil~ from previous eras have revealed it acted as a 3rd physical ey which was sensitive to light and dark. This is evident in extinc species such as the brontosauras and other ancient amphibiat vertebrates. Even in the lower animals of today such as the frol the pineal gland senses light. In the course of evolution fron reptiles to birds, to animals and finally to man the eight sensor cells of the pineal have been replaced by a much more functionalll intricate cell (parenchyma cell), and in the highest vertebrates such as man no light receptive cells remain in the pineal gland.The pineal gland is to be found buried nearly in the centre of the brain of any mammal. It is a white structure shaped like pine cone. In man it is roughly long and weighs about 100 mgm It is the only unpaired organ in the brain. After puberty this gland hardens by a process of calcification which does not affect its functioning.
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    Hi all, please be aware to exercise some caution with self administration of iodine. It can result in "iodine goitre" (as opposed to goitre resutling from insufficient iodine) and Iodine excess can also cause thyroid underactivity, because large amounts of iodine block the thyroid's ability to make hormones. Of course there is Thorotoxicosis that can lead to a Thyroid Storm with a mortality rate of only 50% http://www.surgical-tutor.org.uk/def...osis.htm~right. I have nursed a patient with this - pretty scary stuff

    I do have a certain well earned respect for iodine and its not something we should be taking without proper caution and preferrably not without serum levels being initially taken.

    Thanks all
    I can not agree more with this, My mother in the 80s had problem with an under active thyroid. The local hospital decided to use radioactive Iodine to treat the problem. However the treatment was conducted just before Chernobyl blew and sent a cloud of radioactive particles including Iodine over Europe 2, years later Bone marrow cancer and elevated radio iodine in the bones.....died in 1994. Please be carefull with iodine

    Flourine is the most active element and no amount of iodine will replace it. It is so active that as a free gas it will explode or ignite on contact with hydrogen (in the dark, other halogens require light to start the reaction such as H and Cl need UV light). I think one of the only ways is to use water that is not flouridated and toothpaste that has no flouride. You need to flush the system in order to purge the flouride. Calcification is a problem for the pineal gland, however I have been looking at the actions of Vit K2mk4. is anybody using suppliments of this, I have switched to organic butters as they are ment to contain this, but have found that I have had no deteration of psychic abilities, Fortunately I found at an early age I could not tolerate toothpaste, it burnt my cheek lining and gums, I switched to the old tooth powders used in early part of the 20th century which are flourde free. I filter all of my water and asked my provider whether they are flouridating and they are not....

    A product from Norway Rat Fish oil is said to be good for the Pineal gland, does anybody use this?
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    What if we focus not only on phisical caracteristics of pineal gland but also on energetic ones.
    The medicine students are learning that pineal gland is atrophied and in reality is something which has no sense beside small hormonal activity.
    Well, it looks like the pineal gland together with a pytuitarian gland is in reality a mental device which alows us to receive and emit the mind energy (thoughts). And it looks it is in a "prenatal stage" wakening up with every brain activity conected with an attempt to telephatic communication. It is also "guilty" for all the creative ideas flashing in our head.
    It receives high frequency mind energy, which is than transmuted by hypothalamus to the level that we vcan understan it.
    So all the ancient manifestations of the pineal gland through the art etc is some kind of reminder of it's importance. In India they call it third eye and when you dissect it you can see the same kind of receptors also found in the eye, just that this ones are sensitive on higher frquencies.

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    Quote A product from Norway Rat Fish oil is said to be good for the Pineal gland, does anybody use this?
    There was some discussion on this very subject following the pete peterson interview. It is worth a look.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t=rat+fish+oil
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    Quote Posted by Setras (here)
    [I can not agree more with this, My mother in the 80s had problem with an under active thyroid. The local hospital decided to use radioactive Iodine to treat the problem. However the treatment was conducted just before Chernobyl blew and sent a cloud of radioactive particles including Iodine over Europe 2, years later Bone marrow cancer and elevated radio iodine in the bones.....died in 1994. Please be carefull with iodine

    ?
    What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Radio active iodine will cause cancer, iodine does not. When radioactivity is released there is radio active iodine present.To prevent radiation poisoning to the thyroid potassium iodide is presccribed... thats the same a lugols iodine and it is ancient knowledge and application for all military near or using radio active materials. They use radio active iodine to kill thyroid tissue when it is hyperactive, not hypoactive.

    Witchy1 - I wonder if your patient was on amiodarone, which can cause amiodarone-induced thyrotoxicosis, one of the things that needs to be watched out for with this drug... it is a very dangerous drug and a toxic application of iodine and this article explains it all if you care to look at it.
    http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/pdfs/IOD07.pdf

    I read you're link provided and I found it interesting that lugols iodine is part of the treatment for this storm. Here is a quote from the link

    Thyroid storm
    • Uncommon life-threatening exacerbation of thyrotoxicosis
    • Has a mortality of 50%
    Precipitating factors
    • Thyroid surgery
    • Radioiodine
    • Withdrawal of antithyroid drugs
    • Iodinated contrast agents
    • Acute illness (e.g. stoke, infection, trauma)
    Clinical features
    • Severe thyrotoxicosis
    • Fever
    • Delirium
    • Seizure or coma
    • Jaundice
    Treatment
    • Propylthiouracil 600mg loading dose
    • Lugol's iodine at least one hour later
    • Beta-blocker
    • Supportive measures
    • Treatment of precipitating cause
    In japan the people there if still on a traditional japanese diet, eat an average of 12.5 mg of iodine a day. Breast cancer is very rare there. When Japanese women come to the US and adopt a S.A.D. diet their breast cancer rates equal US women.

    12.5. mg. The typical US person gets 0.05 to 2mg a day. 0.5 is what is found in iodized salt for a serving.

    I have known several people who have reduced their thryoid medication or eliminated it by using lugols iodine. If you have thyroid issues you must supplement with the assist of a doctor... but granted many people do not. You need your thyroid hormone levels checked at 6 weeks of supplementation because you will likely need your meds reduced.

    A few people have difficulty in their metabolic pathways with iodine and they are not good candidates for supplementation. A skin rash with supplementing is not necessarily an allergic reaction but a bromide detox, as bromide has an affinity for skin tissues and it will come out the skin. The rash goes after a while.

    Most people know fairly soon in life if they have an allergy to iodine and they should not supplement.

    I use to have thryoid cysts and I eliminated them with supplementation of lugols iodine, even after my thryoid specialist said the would never go away. He was wrong.

    I eliminated fibrocystic breast disease with iodine. Fibrocystic breast disease is a factor for increased risk of breast cancer.

    I ve seen several cases of sebaious cysts cured with topical applications of lugols

    I have cured urinary tract infections with it including one case of interstitial cystitis.

    No one should supplement with iodine without understanding what they are doing.
    I have about 10 articles on it on my blog. www.healthsalon.org just search iodine.

    If there is thyroid disease seek an iodine literate doctor, one who knows how to supplement with it.

    I recently did an interview with Dr Alexander Haskell who treats Hashimotos dieasee with iodine as part of the protocol and he has excellent results. He has a book on the topic and you can view many of the chapers on amazon and there is enough info to get the gist of what he is doing. Hashimotos no less with iodine!
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dr.+alexander+haskell&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADr.+alexander+haskell&ajr=3

    Please be aware that the medical community has greatly deceived us. There is little that they do in medicine that is right... including iodine. They are out to get us and control us, disempower us make us chronically ill, so we spend our lifes savings on trying to save our sorry hides. It is no different when it comes to iodine and thyroid disease. I hope some of you will take the time to learn about this most serious topic. Hypothyroidism is an epidemic in this country! and the cure is ignored and blackballed.
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    Quote Posted by Setras (here)
    [I can not agree more with this, My mother in the 80s had problem with an under active thyroid. The local hospital decided to use radioactive Iodine to treat the problem. However the treatment was conducted just before Chernobyl blew and sent a cloud of radioactive particles including Iodine over Europe 2, years later Bone marrow cancer and elevated radio iodine in the bones.....died in 1994. Please be carefull with iodine

    ?

    What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Radio active iodine will cause cancer, iodine does not. When radioactivity is relese there is radio active iodine present.To prevent radiation poisoning to the thyroid potassium iodide is presccribed... thats the same a lugols iodine and it is ancient knowledge and application for all military near or using radio active materials. They use radio active iodine to kill thyroid tissue when it is hyperactive, not hypoactive.

    Witchy1 - I wonder if your patient was on amiodarone, which can cause amiodarone-induced thyrotoxicosis, one of the things that needs to be watched out for with this drug... it is a very dangerous drug and a toxic application of iodine and this article explains it all if you care to look at it.
    http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/pdfs/IOD07.pdf

    I read you're link provided and I found it interesting that lugols iodine is part of the treatment for this storm. Here is a quote from the link

    Thyroid storm
    • Uncommon life-threatening exacerbation of thyrotoxicosis
    • Has a mortality of 50%
    Precipitating factors
    • Thyroid surgery
    • Radioiodine
    • Withdrawal of antithyroid drugs
    • Iodinated contrast agents
    • Acute illness (e.g. stoke, infection, trauma)
    Clinical features
    • Severe thyrotoxicosis
    • Fever
    • Delirium
    • Seizure or coma
    • Jaundice
    Treatment
    • Propylthiouracil 600mg loading dose
    • Lugol's iodine at least one hour later
    • Beta-blocker
    • Supportive measures
    • Treatment of precipitating cause
    In japan the people there if still on a traditional japanese diet, eat an average of 12.5 mg of iodine a day. Breast cancer is very rare there. When Japanese women come to the US and adopt a S.A.D. diet their breast cancer rates equal US women.

    12.5. mg. The typical US person gets 0.05 to 2mg a day. 0.5 is what is found in iodized salt for a serving.

    I have known several people who have reduced their thryoid medication or eliminated it by using lugols iodine. If you have thyroid issues you must supplement with the assist of a doctor... but granted many people do not. You need your thyroid hormone levels checked at 6 weeks of supplementation because you will likely need your meds reduced.

    A few people have difficulty in their metabolic pathways with iodine and they are not good candidates for supplementation. A skin rash with supplementing is not necessarily an allergic reaction but a bromide detox, as bromide has an affinity for skin tissues and it will come out the skin. The rash goes after a while.

    Most people know fairly soon in life if they have an allergy to iodine and they should not supplement.

    I use to have thryoid cysts and I eliminated them with supplementation of lugols iodine, even after my thryoid specialist said the would never go away. He was wrong.

    I eliminated fibrocystic breast disease with iodine. Fibrocystic breast disease is a factor for increased risk of breast cancer.

    I ve seen several cases of sebaious cysts cured with topical applications of lugols

    I have cured urinary tract infections with it including one case of interstitial cystitis.

    No one should supplement with iodine without understanding what they are doing.
    I have about 10 articles on it on my blog. www.healthsalon.org just search iodine.

    If there is thyroid disease seek an iodine literate doctor, one who knows how to supplement with it.

    I recently did an interview with Dr Alexander Haskell who treats Hashimotos dieasee with iodine as part of the protocol and he has excellent results. His has a book on and you can view many of the chapers on amazon. Hashimotos no less with iodine!
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dr.+alexander+haskell&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADr.+alexander+haskell&ajr=3

    Please be aware that the medical community has greatly deceived us. There is little that they do in medicine that is right... including iodine. They are out to get us and control us, disempower us make us chronically ill, so we spend our lifes savings on trying to save our sorry hides. It is no different when it comes to iodine and thyroid disease. I hope some of you will take the time to learn about this most serious topic. Hypothyroidism is an epidemic in this country! and the cure is ignored and blackballed.
    Very informative post, thank you. I know I read on the web that Lugol's solition has been banned in the USA by the FDA. Do you know the facts on this? I would like to obtain some as it is also good for making suspect water safe..
    As I write this I am eating my usual grain and vegetable/legume mix with about 2 tablespoons of dulse flakes for iodine. I love sea vegetables.

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    I dont belive it....... arrggghhh I just did this great post with lots of links, then downloaded the spellchecker and now its all gone....... hmph. So this one will be much briefer.

    I might start a thread for Iodine, we may have veered off topic a bit. I will put up an easy way to see if you are iodine deficient. However as a health professional I must advocate serum levels as first port of call. Also, just a FYI - some people are allergic to iodine. Always exercise caution with it.

    Lugols certainly has its place, Arrowwind makes valid points regarding its use.

    However I am not yet convinced it will displace flouride on the pineal gland (see above post). I have to go with the chemistry on this. There are many places on the internet saying it will, but I cannot find one reference to validate the statement. Maybe its an urban legend? I dont know - however if anyone at all has a reference I would be delighted to read it.

    Setras, I was sad to read about your Mum. I hope that you and your family are recovering well. I know time doesn't diminish the loss from your life

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    Quote Posted by Nortreb (here)
    Thanks alot for this, Rocketman! This adds a piece to the puzzle fo the push to avoid the sun and wear sunglasses.

    Peace to you.
    Quote Posted by Rocketman (here)
    Fluoridated water causes impairment of pineal gland function: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/

    Sunlight exposure mitigates fluoride damage to the pineal gland: http://www.naturalnews.com/026364_fl...nd_sodium.html
    You want to get MORE sun and not avoid it

    Frequent exposure to outdoor sunshine, 20 minutes or so at a time, will help stimulate a fluoride calcified pineal gland. Just make sure you take off your hat. This is more important than most realize, because the pineal gland affects so much other enzyme and endocrine activity, including melatonin production.
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    I wonder if flourosis has an affect on psychic abilities/function of the pineal gland... and if there's ways of undoing that possible damage.

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    I'm Alkalising my body, using Gotu Kola, using clays and super greens and spirulina daily... with Iodine and distill my water.

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    I wonder if flourosis has an affect on psychic abilities/function of the pineal gland... and if there's ways of undoing that possible damage.
    I would have to assume that it does. Anytime a tissue is congested with a toxic material you need to assume that it is not going to function correctly. The pineal is our doorway to psychic awareness. It also regulates all the other hormonal functionings in the body. They dont call it the master gland for nothing.

    Regarding the displacement of fluroide by iodine.. I cannot say if this displacement is an active or passive event. I have read so much literature and studies on iodine I can't keep track of it all in my head and where I read what and when. I will keep my eye out for it though as it seem to be of concern.

    witchy1 - the last post I wrote last night got dumped too.. so I was up past midnight trying to rewrite it. Second time around never seems to be a good as frustration sets in..

    withcy1- here is my question for you. If iodine is not needed in greater amounts then what is the cause of the hypothryoid epidemic in the US and many other countries as well? What is the etiology of the disease?

    Have you ever heard of hypthyroidism referred to as an epidemic? if not why not? how many does it take to be an epidemic?

    I think we need to move beyond belief and look at the studies as well as the clinical facts.
    The doctors who have done much of the research on iodine supplementation are Drs Abraham, Flechas, Bernstein... but there are quite a few others. The iodine movement is spreading amongst naturopaths as well as medical doctors.

    Now Dr Haskell ND writes in his book how to expertly treat and cure Hasimotos disease. Part of the program includes iodine supplementation but it is not just thrown at the patient willy nilly. A very careful protocol is desiged to bring the disease under control and to heal the thyroid. Link provided in my previous post.

    They have proved that excess iodine is readily dumped by the kidneys. It is very difficult to over dose to a toxic level unless there are other metabolic factors that are signficantly abnormal..which is not the case for the vast majority of people. One would have to agressively dose with iodine for a while which is unlikely. I read a case where pyroderma grangrenosa was cured with upwards of 900mg of lugols a day... I have unfortuantely helped to bury a few of these patients with conventional medicine.. such a shame.

    many tissues require iodine aside from the thyroid and if you ask your doctor he will be unaware. Aside from brain tissue, most importantly the pineal, breast tissue craves iodine, ovaries and prostate and many proponents of iodine therapy are suggesting that its lack is a pre-condtioning risk factor for breast cancer. My personal doctor says she knows of some breast cancer cases cured with lugols iodine alone... although I do not think I would leave such a condition to just this single therapy.

    Please note that those women who are hypothyroid are at greater risk for developing breast cancer as well as women with fibrocystic breast disease., which lugols readily cures.

    I do want to stress that there is a difference between iodine, lugols iodine and the trash you purchase in the drug store that should never be taken orally. Lugols iodine is a combination of iodine and potassium iodide. Different parts of the body require one or the other. Some people have a hard time taking it orally as it is hard on a delicate stomach. For these people lugols can be applied topically with good results.

    Lugols is now controlled by the FDA. It is an ingredient used to make Meth. so thats why they got on it. You can still purcahse it in 1 ounce bottles only. When i first purchased I got a 16 oucne bottle from a lab. I cant do that any longer without a doctors RX.

    I purchase mine now from Ecuador at http://www.herbhealers.com/store/
    I get the 15% solution in a one ounce bottle. I dilute it with water to make 3 one ounce bottles of 5% Lugol's. It is very cost effective even with the shipping. This was an American company that was run out because they were helping people to cure cancer.

    Be aware that Lugols is an important ingredient in the Hoxey formula. Some "Hoxey" formulas do not contain the lugols and they are inferior products. Some companies sell the herbal part and the iodine parts separately which is ok but both are needed.

    The use of Lugols iodine should be separated from the use of vitamin c by a few hours as vitamin c will oxidize iodine and render it ineffective. If you spill lugols do not worry. Make a slurry of vitamin c and put it on the stain. It will vanish instantly.
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    Quote Posted by divine_moments_of_truth (here)
    The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.
    Ditto this. I had a truly wonderful "activation" of this gland with DMT.

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    Amazon Sales It If Anyone's Interested In The Lugol's Solution. No I Don't Make Money Off This Link.. Lol NC Residents Aren't Allowed To Have An Amazon Affiliate Account Anyway, For Some Strange Reason. Lugol"s Iodine Solution 5%

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    Quote withcy1- here is my question for you. If iodine is not needed in greater amounts then what is the cause of the hypothryoid epidemic in the US and many other countries as well? What is the etiology of the disease?
    Have you ever heard of hypthyroidism referred to as an epidemic? if not why not? how many does it take to be an epidemic?
    Responding over at the Iodine thread so not to clog up this one and remain on topic - https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ugols-Solution

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    Quote Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach.
    Arrowwind you have stated "with Lugol's iodine will displace fluroide from the pineal gland." There is much "opinion" supporting that theory. However there is no scientific evidece to support this that I can find and can only find verifiable evidence to the contrary.

    This statement may well be correct and I am completely open to the theory plus it would prove science wrong. If you can point me to the verifiable evidence I would be most grateful

    You have also stated that "If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then flouride will attach." Again happy to prove science wrong. Can you please supply the verifiable evidence.

    My understanding is that flouride will DISPLACE iodine due to the halogen displacement science.

    This then implies that no matter how much iodine you have in your body, and still have a flouride intake that will always displace iodine. Hence perhaps is one of the many reasons for eliminating flouride from the diet and perhaps why those on iodine supplements are not relieved of symptoms of iodine deficiency

    Also my understanding is that one needs to have selenium in the diet at sufficent and correct quantities to "activate" the iodine. There is a reaction that occurs, a symbiotic relationship if you will. Therefore taking Iodine on its own may be ineffective.

    I think that this is vital to mention, as if we follow the prescriptions as given above - you may well be wasting your money on taking iodine, plus it may be accumulating in the tissues and over time creating toxicity. There are some that would suggest that it does in fact accumulate in the tissues creating toxicity.
    I cannot find the half life of Lugol's despite some searching! If we have a chemist here that could assit that would be great. Maybe it needs to be broken down to its basic elements first. I did find this one.

    As follows:
    The metabolism of iodine by an adult according to the ICRP (ICRP 1989) is that 0.3 of the initial intake is taken up by the thyroid and 20% goes to faecal excretion, the biological half times are:
    blood - 0.25 days;
    thyroid - 80 days;
    rest of the body - 12 days.
    http://www.lanl.gov/BAER-Conference/BAERCon-46p027.htm

    Again I excercise caution taking any Iodine product.

    I cannot say this loud enough.
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    As we are all interested in the PINEAL because it is the 3rd EYE key, this link on activating the 3rd eye with attached pdf book is worth a read.

    http://www.resistance2010.com/forum/...hird-eye-rated

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    I have recently become interested in the pineal gland, And all the info surrounding it.

    I am so impressed with the information I am getting here.

    Just wanted to say thank-you for dedicating what appears to be an incredible amount of time and effort to help us.

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    I read somewhere that MMS can "burn" the pineal glan and dull it, and can't find the source now. Anyone else read or see that? Can we get a confirmation or a denial on it? Sorry.. I should have printed it and asked when I saw it.
    Thank you
    I still use MMS. Sparingly.
    Melatonin? I have extreme reactions to this product in pill form. That is the ONE product that when I take it,I can NOT wake from my dreams or wake up. At all.
    Almost a forced interdimentional thing. I wake up more tired then going to sleep.
    Without melatonin,dreams are safe and fun. And wierd. But never scary.
    I use that supplement sparingly. Hope it's not related to taking MMS is why I was asking. Kinda BURNING my pineal,then REFRESHING it?
    Thought I'd share.
    Even in small doses.

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