Centralised world in revolt thread

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More from Jim Muir: He says he saw several people with head wounds, and he was told that some 40 people had been injured in the last two hours. An impromptu hospital has been set up in Tahrir Square to treat the wounded.

Yasser Ahmad in Egypt tweets: "Things are simply out of control and who knows how much time it will take."

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Ban Ki Moon urges for restraint on all sides and that the partiesneed to listen to the people now and peace and order needs to come in NOW

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The BBC's Wyre Davies in Alexandria says pro-Mubarak supporters have come out on to the streets, emboldened by events elsewhere. The atmosphere is tense and many people are angry at the anti-government protesters - they can't get money out of banks and they can't get to to work.

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Moons statement is massively strong. He has basically accuse the government of unleashing on these innocent and peaceful protesters

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N Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon: "I am deeply concerned at the continuing violence in Egypt and once again urge restraint to all sides. This is very much an unacceptable situation. Any attacks on peaceful demonstrators is unacceptable and I strongly condemn it."

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Cameron says that if the regime has been sponsoring the violence seen today this would be despicable and they would condemn this

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http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ live stream

people on top of building throwing objects

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Ban Ki-moon: "For the last decade, the United Nations has been warning of the need for change. It is important at this juncture to ensure an orderly and peaceful transition takes place. I urge all parties to engage in such dialogue and such process without any further delay. We should not underestimate the danger of instability across the Middle East."

BBC stated we are seeing the beginnings of a Civil War. My heart breaks for these people.

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TWITTER

Violalag Ellie Merton
Israeli Govt now overflying Egyptian airspace

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Posted by irishspirit (here)
Violalag Ellie Merton
Israeli Govt now overflying Egyptian airspace

Why the hell are the Israeli Govt flying over Egyptian airspace???

One hopes its not because they have men on the ground stirring up trouble!

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More from Ban Ki-moon: "The United Nations stands ready to provide any assistance to such reform efforts by Egypt and any other Arab countries that reflect the will of the people. They should listen more attentively to the genuine and sincere wishes of the people."

And this from British leader David Cameron: "We have been watching the events in Cairo with grave concern and completely condemn the violence is taking place. If it turns out that the regime is in any way has been sponsoring or tolerating this violence, that would be completely and utterly unacceptable. These are despicable scenes that we are seeing and they should not be repeated. They underline the need for political reform."

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Posted by chelmostef (here)
Why the hell are the Israeli Govt flying over Egyptian airspace???

One hopes its not because they have men on the ground stirring up trouble!

As I said earlier, I cannot confirm this. I am looking for more sources on this.

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abumuqawama‎ RT @aidaseif: One pro Mubarak demonstrator: Sergeant Yasin Ali Mohamed Ali, from 10th of Ramadan police station. ID 89015191 #jan25 #Egypt

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Ashraf Khalil, a freelance journalist in Cairo tweets: "Soldiers literally just watching this, but protest organisers trying to control crowd's animosity toward the army. One guy grabbed the microphone with a message to the army, "Make a decision now" and defend the Tahrir protesters. But others grabbed the microphone away saying, "We don't want to turn the people against the army.

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Menna Saeed in Cairo tweets: "Thanks protesters for what you've done for Egypt. Now it's time to think of change implementation. So let's all go home and think forward".

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The BBC's Arab Affairs analyst Magdi Abdelhadi: "Unless the Egyptian state starts to act and shoulder its responsibility to bring order to the streets of Egyptian cities, then one fears there will be more polarisation, more violence, and sadly, more bloodshed."

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Opposition figurehead Mohamed ElBaradei calls once more for President Mubarak to step aside by Friday - when what the opposition is planning what it calls the "Friday of Departure". He was speaking to al-Jazeera.

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pro government supports ramming people with a moving military vehicle. this is worrying!

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Mr ElBaradei had made the same appeal on Tuesday - but that was before President Mubarak promised not to run for another term.

I R in Cairo writes: "I just came back from Tahrir Square, supporting Mubarak to continue his term. I am not an NDP member, never voted and never participated in a demonstration before last week. Ninety per cent of our demands have been met. Enough demonstrations. We need a smooth transition of power.

Ibrahim Zadran, co-ordinator of the opposition National Association for Change and an ally of Mohamed ElBaradei, tells the BBC: "We are asking the army to defend us. It's their job to do that. Today, 15 people were shot in Tahrir Square by government supporters using live ammunition. We are a peaceful group looking for justice and democracy. Nothing else."

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We need to really focus on what we want to see in egypt and this is a peacefull transition. With the army siding with the people.... I am going to focus on the picture of a demostrator kissing the guy from the army... We need to send love to the egyptions, this seems on a knife edge, lets focus our intent....

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more warning shoots being fired by Military

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reports that Journalist's have appealed to the Army to stop this, and prevent more bloodshed.

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Posted by chelmostef (here)
We need to really focus on what we want to see in egypt and this is a peacefull transition. With the army siding with the people.... I am going to focus on the picture of a demostrator kissing the guy from the army... We need to send love to the egyptions, this seems on a knife edge, lets focus our intent....

Amazing sight earlier today, Muslims where doing their daily afternoon prayers whilst Christians where protecting them from attackers. Muslims have been protecting Christian Churches these past few days always. AMAZING!

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Ibrahim Zadran, co-ordinator of the opposition National Association for Change and an ally of Mohamed ElBaradei, tells the BBC: "We are asking the army to defend us. It's their job to do that. Today, 15 people were shot in Tahrir Square by government supporters using live ammunition. We are a peaceful group looking for j

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BBC world affairs editor John Simpson, in Tahrir Square, says: "I am among a group of Mubarak supporters. They have been preparing all sorts of weapons - pulling down iron railings, breaking up paving stones - and using them against anti-government protesters. There has been a kind of counter-attack by the pro-Mubarak groups, who are determined to force the remaining protesters out of the square. The soldiers are right here, sitting on their tanks, looking on and occasionally taking shelter, but are not trying to intervene. People know the army is not going to fire on either side, so their presence is not intimidating. The Mubarak supporters are forcing their way into the square through all the main entrances, and trying to force out the protesters gathered there."

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BUILDING NOW ON FIRE

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

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US state department spokesman PJ Crowley tweets: "We reiterate our call for all sides in #Egypt to show restraint and avoid violence. Egypt's path to democratic change must be peaceful."

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Human rights activist Ammar Shaltout from "Put them on trial now" tells BBC World that pro-Mubarak protesters are carrying knives and guns. He accuses government of "state crimes" for releasing criminals from prison, and flying two F-16 jets low over civilian protesters in Tahrir Square. He says protesters want all faces from Mubarak regime to go and a technocratic government to be appointed.

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Mubarak supporters are dropping concrete blocks on opposition protesters from roofs, AFP reports.

I really have to ask. We have seen protests going on for days, not one pro-government supporter, now they say that there are thousands of them?

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In his interview with al-Jazeera, Mohamed ElBaradei calls on the army to intervene "today". He says: "I ask the army to intervene to protect Egyptian lives.

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reports are saying that the anti-government protesters are begging of Obama to step in.

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REPORT: US, EU discussing need for international military intervention to remove Mubarak... Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Now we see what is going on here.


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Can i again beg that you pray for these people?

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Israelis are watching anxiously as anti-government protests continue in Egypt - one of the country's only friends in the Arab world.
"Judgement Day" for President Hosni Mubarak was the full-page headline jumping from the Hebrew-language newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth in Israel on Tuesday.
The implications of regime change in Egypt would be enormous here.
"We are concerned. We are watching this very anxiously," says Dan Gillerman, a former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations.
"This is a very, very tough neighbourhood," he says

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12338222

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Azza Raslan in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia writes: "The Arab world watches in shock as the official state-sponsored television in Egypt exercise their monopoly over the air, and spout their poor, biased and shoddy covering of the events. We cannot believe how divorced they are from the pulse of the nation and how oblivious they are of the shameful way they appear. We are all ashamed of what is going on in Egypt."

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From the BBC's Paul Danahar: "There may now be more pro Mubarak supporters surrounding the square than anti-Mubarak supporters inside it. A number of foreign journalists have been roughed up by the crowds."

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Protesters that are being caught on the pro side are starting to say that they are being paid by government to protest

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Twitter

White House statement: 'The United States deplores and condemns the violence

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The White House says it "deplores and condemns the violence that is taking place in Egypt, and we are deeply concerned about attacks on the media and peaceful demonstrators". It adds: "We repeat our strong call for restraint."

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: Guardian journalist Brian Whitaker, in Cairo, tweets: "[Opposition Ghad party leader] Ayman Nour says he's surrounded by govt thugs in Bab el-Louq, Cairo #Jan25 #Egypt

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reports are saying that the museum has been set on fire, after fire bombs throwing into it.

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update, drudge has now remove the US EU Story. Reason unknown.

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Aljaz Arabic: eyewitness confirms to them 1 Molotov cocktail hitting Egyptian museum.-Unknown which 'side' it was thrown from

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now reports of machine guns being fired. God this is getting out of hand

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Two petrol bombs have landed inside the grounds of the Egyptian Museum, near where pro- and anti-government demonstrators have been involved in violent clashes, according to the AFP news agency

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IDF has raised their status along the boarder with Sinai.

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: In an interview with BBC Arabic, Egypt's new Finance Minister, Samir Radwan, calls for the opposition to accept the offer of dialogue with the government. "They are afraid to sit and talk because it will appear that they do not have an economics of foreign affairs programme," he says. "But we must sit together in order to avoid any chaos.''

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A CNN correspondent reports that the petrol bombs are being thrown by supporters of President Mubarak at the anti-government protesters.

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Medical officials tell the AFP news agency that at least 500 people have been wounded in the clashes in central Cairo.

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Pro-Mubarak have blocked all exits and are pushing forward

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NBC reporter Richard Engels tweets: "Heard several sustained bursts of gunfire .. Lots of molotov at north end of tahrir "

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tells his country's parliament that the unrest in Egypt could destabilise the Middle East "for many years", and spark a battle between democrats and radical Islamists. "There are two worlds, two halves, two views - that of the free world and that of the radical world," he says. "Which one will prevail in Egypt? The answer is crucial to the future of Egypt, the future of the region, and for us here in Israel."

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The BBC's Jonathan Marcus says: "One of the things the Americans have been doing over the years is to try to persuade President Mubarak to allow a genuine secular opposition. The Americans will now be very concerned at what comes out of this melting pot. Clearly it's the Muslim Brotherhood that is in many ways the best organised opposition group."

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military tanks are now on fire

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/

sky news fed for uk residents

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CNN's Ivan Watson in Cairo tweets: "Nightfall. Bloody battle continues to rage here in Tahrir Square. We are trapped inside with the opposition, who say they'll fight to death."

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Former mubarak secret police general: its not far-fetched army moves to take mubarak out

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Belgium's foreign minister demands the Egyptian authorities release Le Soir correspondent Serge Dumont, whom he says was beaten and then arrested.

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RT @ArabVoicesSpeak: Former #Egypt army general: it will be over soon, the system is seeing its last ours

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The BBC's Tim Willcox tweets: "Bursts of gunfire in Tahrir Sq. Reports that foreign media being attacked - including 'vicious beating' of one camerawoman."

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The Swedish newspaper, Aftonbladet, has also said that two of its reporters were attacked by an angry mob in a poor area of Cairo, and then detained by soldiers for several hours. One of them, Karin Oestman, said people had spat in their faces and accused them of being from Israel's foreign intelligence agency, Mossad

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The BBC's Magdi Abdelhadi in Cairo says: "It is virtually impossible to know the extent of support for Mr Mubarak in Egyptian society. Throughout his long time in office there have never been free and fair elections by international standards and opinion polls designed to measure the president's popularity are banned. This leaves most people with guesstimates. There is no doubt, however, that there is a genuine Mubarak constituency - those who stand to lose influence or money. What complicates the picture further is that there is a tradition of paying the poor and the not so politically aware to come out and demonstrate or vote. There is also what you may call the emotional constituency - equally difficult to quantify. In a conservative patriarchal culture like Egypt, there will be those who see Mr Mubarak as a father figure and will mourn his demise. One young man told me it was unacceptable to humiliate a man of his age, let alone the father of a nation."

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Veteran left-wing academic Naom Chomsky tells Democracy Now that it is the "most remarkable regional uprising" he can remember, adding: "The US has an overwhelmingly powerful role there. Egypt is the second largest recipient of US military and economic aid. Obama himself has been highly supportive of Mubarak… This is one of the most brutal dictators of the region."

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Lara Setrakian from ABC News tweets: "This is a clear and brutal siege on what had been a peaceful protest. Sirens in the background, helicopters overhead."

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Azza, one of the anti-government protesters in Tahrir Square, tells the BBC that she has seen many injured people. "Lots of people are covered in blood. Lots of people [have broken bones]. They are throwing lots of big, big, big stones."

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WaWPCqgilk0

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BBC world affairs editor John Simpson, in Tahrir Square, says: "The stand-off in Tahrir Square seems to be approaching a critical moment. Pro-Mubarak groups, determined and aggressive, have been pushing their way to the edges of Tahrir Square all afternoon. Soldiers, controlling the entrances to the square, have mostly stopped them going further in. But fights have been breaking out and large numbers of missiles - bricks, stones and bits of ironwork, have been flying through the air on both sides. There are too few soldiers here to keep any kind of order. The most they can do is prevent the big numbers of Mubarak loyalists from getting into the square, bottling them up into huge groups on the edges. The net effect of the arrival in force of groups of Mubarak supporters seems to have been to strengthen the resolve of the hard-line demonstrators to stay inside the square. The gradual drift away from the square seems to have stopped. For now, it is the only place where the demonstrators can feel more or less safe."

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Ganzeer from Cairo tweets: "Military&Mubarak against people - Glorious Egyptian Military personnel have confiscated my camera&deleted all images"

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IDF Spokesperson Announcements
For Immediate Release
Wednesday, February 02, 201118:40
IAF Strikes Gaza Tunnel in Response to Rocket Fire
A short while ago, the IAF struck a tunnel in the southern Gaza strip. A
direct hit was confirmed.
The site was targeted in response to the recent rocket fire from the Gaza
Strip. Over the past two days two Grad missiles and a Mortar shell hit
Ofakim, Netivot (landing near a wedding celebration) and the Eshkol Regional
Council, respectively, causing damage.
Since the beginning of 2011, over thirty Grad missiles, Qassam rockets and
Mortar shells have landed in Israeli territory.


http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=50926

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MirooMiroo from Cairo tweets: "Whether you are pro or anti Mubarak, DON'T FALL INTO A CIVIL WAR. WALK AWAY FROM TAHRIR SQUARE!!

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The chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm Mike Mullen, has expressed "confidence" that Egypt's military can continue to provide security for the country, including the strategically important Suez Canal, according to the AFP news agency. (Reports saying this is his way of telling Army to protect the people)

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Wael Nawara, secretary-general of opposition Ghad party, tells the BBC: "Whatever sympathy [President Mubarak] had from us yesterday, I think this sympathy has totally dried up. We have 500 injured in Tahrir Square just because he wants to stay in power for another few months. Why can't he just step down now?"

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police have been given orders to kill to restore order

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More criticism of US President Barack Obama, this time from John R Guardiano in the American Spectator:"Obama's strength has also been his profound weakness vis-a-vis Egypt. He has been cautious to a fault. Consequently, he and his administration have consistently been behind the curve, surprised by events, and caught flatfooted by the trajectory of history."

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the word is the army are telling people to "hide" as they are in great danger

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Mayar Gueissa in Cairo writes: "The so-called new Egyptian government has shown its true colours after three days! By sending thugs as pro-Mubarak protesters to beat and terrorize the ant-Mubarak protesters in Tahrir square. I was there and saw it with my own eyes. How can we trust this man to hand over the country peacefully and establish democracy after 30 years of dictatorship and corruption?

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Eye witnesses say that Egyptian army troops are intervening to stop the violent clashes that have broken out between supporters and opponents of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak at Cairo's Tahrir Square, the Al Arabiya news network reported.
According to the report, a few people were killed and about 500 were injured during Wednesday's events. Foreign correspondents were also hurt in the clashes, including those sent by the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet. BBC reported that Egyptian protestors spat on the faces of the Swedish reporters, calling them Israeli Mossad agents. (Roee Nahmias, news agencies)



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...023103,00.html

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35 shot in damhour right now in clashes between security forces and protesters Heavy clashes reported