Mubarak to Step Down

[yiolas]

The VP of Egypt says that they have opened the door of dialogue ! The people have spoken. They want them all to leave office.
The VP said that he doesnt want the people to listen to satelite television stations spreading division within the Egyptian people. Now it's everyone elses fault except for their own.
He wants them all to go back home and back to their jobs and lives. How disgusting !
The real revolution will begin tomorrow in Egypt. Let's pray for the Egyptian people.

[cayman]

update: Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi set off on tour of Africa,on Wednesday
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_11973581.htm

What a timing!

news I see it: a probe to the hunting ground, "structure weakness testing"

in this article:http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...t_11967932.htm

you can see some explanation of the story why we are in Africa, the tune just doesn't feel like before, more hawkish---that's the point

[ViralSpiral]

I missed the speech, but receivecd a "live" feed link: https://youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker


When I opened it there were 217,691,536 downloaded views. Just WOW!

[slipknotted]

there's noway he's going, with all the billions he has and the ego to match, sad to say he does 'ntcare for the people, they need sooooo much help but they are stuck with what they let be scary i wish them all hope and what they need to be free.

[Midnight Rambler]

I hear on the TV experts saying that Friday will be a day of fighting, probably after going to the mosque.

[GK76]

I wish them well, and hope it ends peacefully. I pray they do not accept anything but a full replacement of the current regime, no one should rule for that long and when that person builds up $70billion then something is very wrong.

Mubarak seems to be trying to push the army into forcing and end - the last act of a desperate man. Thankfully the army are ignoring his plea. One negative though is that the army may be having their own internal issues too.

[Shairia]

Does anyone else think he was going to hand over power and he was talked out of it?

[Midnight Rambler]

Posted by Shairia (here)
Does anyone else think he was going to hand over power and he was talked out of it?

I heard this analysis earlier today.

That is the reason the rumour was spread.

First he decided to go, and after talking about it behind the curtains he decided to stay.

[Shairia]

I know how this man thinks and he would have squashed rumors of his leaving if that was not his original intention.

The only question that remains in my mind is who talked him out of it:

his VP
Saudi Arabia
Israel
US
China???

[Midnight Rambler]

Posted by Shairia (here)
I know how this man thinks and he would have squashed rumors of his leaving if that was not his original intention.

Yes, but why all the hype? In the ticker tape on the news at least here in Holland it said It Is Rumoured Mubarak is Leaving. Not that I hold much regard for the MSM.

[Charlie Pecos]

U.S. and Israel are running the show. They don't want Mubarak out, just needed a distraction.

Not surprising, just disappointing.

[Midnight Rambler]

I think the people of Egypt have a long road to take before the truly have a free democratic society, I am afraid. With all the different interests in that part of the world and that new VP is not a good guy or so I have head.

[Shairia]

Yiolas,

Trust me Mubarak was aware of the MSN release before it aired.

His VP was the head of the secret police that should tell you all you want to know about his character. It was released that he wanted protestors arrested and tortured and I'm sure he got his way in at least a few cases.

[Charlie Pecos]

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[Midnight Rambler]

Posted by Shairia (here)
Yiolas,

Trust me Mubarak was aware of the MSN release before it aired.

His VP was the head of the secret police that should tell you all you want to know about his character. It was released that he wanted protestors arrested and tortured and I'm sure he got his way in at least a few cases.

Yes, there was also a story I heard of a Swedish journalist that was tortured there. It´s disgusting.

[Shairia]

Charlie,

Don't under estimate the people in the demonstrations, they have nothing left to lose and are betting their lives on a positive outcome. I don't think they will pack up and leave. Will they effect the change they want, maybe not but I'm betting their will have to be significant improvements no matter what the outcome.

[Charlie Pecos]

Posted by Shairia (here)
Charlie,

Don't under estimate the people in the demonstrations, they have nothing left to lose and are betting their lives on a positive outcome. I don't think they will pack up and leave. Will they effect the change they want, maybe not but I'm betting their will have to be significant improvements no matter what the outcome.

I truly hope you are right. I was afraid that Mubarak was going to pull a trick like this, especially after he sent the "pro Mubarak supporters" in.

God I hope the Egyptian people don't fall for this.

[Shairia]

Charlie,

These people have lived under his heavy rule all their lives they have been tricked many times into submission and are not going to fall for that again. For the first time in Egypt a rebelliion is taking place with an educated protest group leading the way. The majority of the protesters are college graduates and I am proud and amazed at what they have already accomplished. I speak to my son everyday and he fills me in on what is going on in the trenches.

When this protest first got underway I worried about the scenario of exactly what happened, paid government employees threatened with not receiving their monthly checks unless they cleared the square. I know the dirty tricks they use and nothing surprised me.

[Charlie Pecos]

Posted by Shairia (here)
Charlie,

These people have lived under his heavy rule all their lives they have been tricked many times into submission and are not going to fall for that again. For the first time in Egypt a rebelliion is taking place with an educated protest group leading the way. The majority of the protesters are college graduates and I am proud and amazed at what they have already accomplished. I speak to my son everyday and he fills me in on what is going on in the trenches.

When this protest first got underway I worried about the scenario of exactly what happened, paid government employees threatened with not receiving their monthly checks unless they cleared the square. I know the dirty tricks they use and nothing surprised me.

I apologize for my ignorance. I take it they are not falling for his resignation ploy?

Yes, they have accomplished alot and it would be a shame to let that go when they have come so far.

I do hope and pray they can succeed.

[unplugged]

Posted by Shairia (here)
Does anyone else think he was going to hand over power and he was talked out of it?

I hadn't thought about it until you wrote it. You could be right. Neighboring Arab rulers and best-bud Zionist Israel would not want a successful people revolt in Egypt.

What amazes me is how cut off these rulers are from the people. Mubarak has to be emotionally and psychically cut off from the people or he would not be able to stand against the weight of disgust and dislike being hurled energetically at him from millions in Egypt and abroad.

Feels increasingly like the scenes in the movie Moses in which the "Pharaoh hardened his heart" and accepted increasingly painful plagues until he lost something he loved. This current Pharaonic version probably would step down only if threatened with the loss of his illegally accumulated umpteen-billion fortune. Gamal's rulership after him was among his first concessions. So family power is clearly not as important to him as personal power and the accumulation of vast sums on the backs of the Egyptian people.

In a fair contest his billions would be snatched from him and handed to the Egyptian people at the rate of $100 million per day until he leaves. I somehow don't think he would stick around for very long if that were the case. Also such a reversal of fortune would work wonders to tide the Egyptians over the rocky road of survival prior to reconstruction of their Antiquities and Tourism industries.