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    Hi, anyone here tried making this? I have the chemicals/electronic PH meter and will soon be trying. Any info would be much appreciated.

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    Check this website - http://cherokeegold.net/ - there is some good info on here for Ormes water and the water is touted to be very good.

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    Thanks Jill, this is also a good website: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/

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    Yes I do - there is a massive variety of ways to create Ormus, my suggestion before anything is to join the Ormus Yahoo Group - its full of immensely intelligent alchemists, and I've learned everything I know from them... they will assist you in a good place to start and will answer all your questions.

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    Quote Posted by Zillah (here)
    Yes I do - there is a massive variety of ways to create Ormus, my suggestion before anything is to join the Ormus Yahoo Group - its full of immensely intelligent alchemists, and I've learned everything I know from them... they will assist you in a good place to start and will answer all your questions.

    Blessings.
    Very fascinating. Thanks

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    Thanks Zillah, what do you use, salt crystals/precious metals?

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    Thanks Jill, this is also a good website: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/
    Thank you for the link - I'll check it out. I know that Thomas Geckler at Cherokee Gold is very involved in the Ormes community and has a lot of experience and knowledge to share if you want to email him with questions. I purchased a trap from him a couple of years ago and used it regularly for about 9-12 months with positive results.

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    This is also very interesting:

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    Quote Posted by andywight (here)
    Thanks Zillah, what do you use, salt crystals/precious metals?
    I use a combination of ways: the wet method/ sea salt/lye solution and/or magnetic vortex water traps. I will charge my ormus with a variety of different crystals and metals pending on the day/season. i will also use sacred geometry/sound frequency/ and orgone pyramids over the ormus to charge it accordingly. Experimentation will bring you great results

    In the beginning I was discouraged to toy with chemicals as I was just starting out - I was lucky to find a gentleman named Gary who teaches people how to make ormus w/o using chemicals (he is also on the yahoo group) - I find no method is better or worse, they all simply have different effects. You can find Gary's ebay listings here. He is an amazing person who will respond to every email you write him.

    A book that is highly recommended that teaches various (if not all) methods backed by multiple case studies: http://ormusbook.com/

    I also 2nd the brilliance of the subtleenergies site - the wet/dry method and more

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    andywight

    Carmody and bashi (here at Avalon) have shared some very good information here

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    Just ordered my very first white gold preparation......should be here any day - very excited. I would love to learn how to make it, bit difficult in an apartment tho with the fumes etc!

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    David Hudson documented, under laboratory controlled conditions, that elements in their monoatomic rearranged state would disappear and then reappear.
    Does this mean that these elements can teleport into other dimensions?
    The human brain has been discovered to contain many monoatomic elements, does this mean that some parts of our brain also have this ability and also teleport into other dimensions?
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    Hi, I joined the yahoo group on ORMES. Barry Carter advises this is what ORMES will do for you

    "What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you."
    --Emmet Fox from Make Your Life Worthwhile, 1942

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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    Just ordered my very first white gold preparation......should be here any day - very excited. I would love to learn how to make it, bit difficult in an apartment tho with the fumes etc!
    Haven't made any myself yet, but so far have read nothing that indicates any issues with fumes. Maybe their is, does anyone here know of any?

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    I think its the Lye

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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    Hi, I joined the yahoo group on ORMES. Barry Carter advises this is what ORMES will do for you

    "What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you."
    --Emmet Fox from Make Your Life Worthwhile, 1942
    I agree. Many times I've experienced positive thoughts producing positive experiences.
    Although I believe that my life so far to be charmed, mainly because of all the s**t I've managed to get myself into but have mysteriously somehow been able to get myself out of. Or maybe? its just that at my last visit to the Astro travel agents this was the reincarnation I picked.
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    http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/tw/walnuts.htm

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    witchy1 - looking forward to what you think about ormes.. I've done a lot of reading on it but never got around to getting any.
    I am impressed by the walnut photos...

    I have a post under food and water in the Living off the Grid forum about structured water which can have similar results with the size and quality of food grown with it. I had been wondering what would happen if ormus was passed through such a water structuring device or even some of the things that are used to make ormus.

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    Here is a simple recipe for anyone interested. I have not tried it, nor do I endorse it. There is no medical information here

    Simple Ormus-Making Recipe
    by Anne Beversdorf

    There is absolutely NO recommendation about usage here. This is an experimental product available for research purposes. For more information about ORMUS, see www.subtleenergies.com/ormus
    Equipment needed:
    • 2 Stainless steel or pyrex bowls, to hold at least ½ gallon volume each
    • Coffee filters
    • Strainer to hold coffee filters (coffee pot top is ok unless aluminum.) Do not use aluminum.
    • Squirt bottle with good lid, or dropper bottle
    • pH paper that tests up to at least 11 (I’m happy with strips ordered from www.indigo.com )
    • Glass jar (spigot at bottom is useful)
    • Turkey baster or 50cc syringe (esp. if you don’t have a spigot on the jar)
    Pyrex measuring cup.
    Ingredients needed:
    • Coarse sea salt. The gray kind that looks damp—clumps together—is best. I get it from Trader Joe’s for $3.79/2-cup jar. Or you can order Dead Sea Salt directly from www.snowdriftfarm.com
    • Lye (Red Devil Lye is in most groceries in the Drano section). You can also order food grade lye from www.snowdriftfarm.com
    • Gallon of Distilled water
    • White distilled vinegar
    Preparation: Do this over the sink, out of the way.
    Pour one cup of distilled water in Pyrex measuring cup that’s sitting in the sink. Add two tablespoons of lye powder. Standing back from the sink so fumes don’t get in your eyes, stir powder til it dissolves. Note: The water will get hot. If lye powder contacts your skin or clothes, remove it immediately with water and soap---take off the clothing immediately. The powder will eat through clothing and skin.
    Place the squirt bottle or dropper bottle in the sink and pour the lye solution into the bottle. If water is still hot, leave the lid loosely placed over the top. You can fasten it later, when the water cools down.
    Instructions:
    1. Pour 4 cups of water in a bowl and dissolve 1cup of salt in the water. (Different brands of salt have different yields. Dead Sea salt takes 1/8 cup per gallon.)
    2. Strain salt water thru coffee filters into the second bowl. You will probably have to use many coffee filters, as there’s a lot of “stuff” in sea salt.
    3. With pH paper ready, start adding dropperfuls (or very small squirts) of lye-water to the salt water, STIRRING CONSTANTLY. (Vary your stir pattern, as the lye-water will tend to concentrate on one section unless you blend it everywhere.)
    4. Check the pH of the water. You want the pH to reach 10 without going as high as 11. It will rise slowly til it gets to about 9, and then will go faster. When it gets to about 10 it will suddenly rise FAST. If it gets as high as 11, add a few drops of vinegar to bring the PH back down.
      Note: The reason for the exact pH reading is that the m-state elements will drop out of the water at just over 10.5. If you go too high, other elements (“Gilchrist Elements”) will drop out of the water, and they are bad for you. So you want the pH to stay under 11. (10.78 to be exact).
    5. When the correct pH is reached, check several places in the water to make sure it’s evenly distributed.
    6. Pour water in large jar. Let it settle for at least 4 hours. Overnight is best. A white or grey precipitate will form at the bottom of the jar.
    7. When 4-12 hours has passed, drain or siphon off the clear water (salt water), and refill the bottle with distilled or good drinking water. (You may keep this water, adding more distilled to it and raising the pH to get more precipitate.) Shake it and let it settle again. This is called “washing the precipitate”.
    8. Wash the precipitate at least 3 times with clean water, each time shaking it and letting it settle at least 4 hours before repeating.
    9. After the last wash, pour the “slurry” of grey/white powder and water into a glass jar with a lid and save it for use. Store it away from electric or magnetic fields.
    10. Since Ormus is strongly affected by intent and by energy fields, it seems to increase its potency if you surround it with high-energy objects. These range from crystals, to photos of beloved teachers or grandmothers, to written intentions of goals, etc.
    How to use If you choose to ingest it, start with about a half teaspoon twice a day. If you take too much at the beginning you may go into a “healing crisis” as your body detoxes.
    It has also been applied directly to the skin to improve scars, age spots, wrinkles, discolorations, etc.
    Pets and plants love it. (You don’t need to use much on plants to get huge yields. If you use TOO much, yield drops. The ratio, for what it’s worth, is 3 gallons per acre once a season. I’ve also heard one-half cup per five gallons of water.) Flowering plants bloom like mad after receiving just a drop of Ormus in their water.
    For more information on Ormus, combining Ormus with essential oils, or for astrological insights into personal growth, contact:
    Anne Beversdorf Inner Growth Counselor Western and Vedic Astrologer
    http://www.quantumbalancing.com/make_ormus.htm

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    Thank you for that recipe. Now I understand why you chose the nic name Witchy. LOL

    Just kidding.

    More of your thoughts will be gratefully received m'lady.

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