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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    Greetings Avalonians,

    that is a heart-warming story Bill...i'm happy u both well @ the end of the day...and more importantly still friends after your opening-up

    i've been struggling lately, with the concept of our final destiny...this deriving from Charles' tranquility chatting with you in the interview, while saying he's got a few years left...all this emotionless from my perspective (i've asked Charles about this, but has probably been too busy, since the news of his own website)...

    the question i have been raising to myself (and please jump in and participate, 'cos i cannot figure this out alone) is:

    1. had we known our path, final destiny, how much would this knowledge shape our present life, differentiate it from the past, and how would the future be from then on???

    i'm also assuming that if you're born with this knowledge built-in already, rather than finding it later on, in the midst of a battling lifestyle, would we go the length we go now into altruism, heroism etc.. ?

    let me know what u think

    be well
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    Quote Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
    I am astounded by this story, that Dave slid off the rope and caught himself by his fingertips, while climbing a cliff face in the dark.

    I am really astounded by this story, that Bill could rescue Dave, with the seconds ticking away, while climbing a cliff face in the dark.

    Most of all, I am utterly astounded by this story, that these two fools are climbing a cliff face in the dark! Without even a spare lamp!!

    Don't ever let me catch you doing that again!
    Chikododoo,
    When I was 19, I was at bus station with my peers when suddenly I urged a feeling that I was invincible .
    I put my left foot under the bus's wheel and allowed it pass through over it.
    After that day no one/and myself caught me doing same thing.

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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    Thank you so much, Bill, for that great story. Incredibly inspirational and moving!

    Love to all!

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    Hi Bill,

    What an awesome story! What incredible courage it took to save your friend! We all have fleeting thoughts like that. What courage it took to tell Dave after 10 years. Something of a burden and guilt, that you had been carrying around for 10 years. I am betting, that you found a real REALSE! The bottom line, you saved, your friend's life.

    I had the opportunity to save my brother's life twice. The first time, I was 6 and my brother was 4. We were playing by a rushing creek, when suddenly he fell in. The creek went into an underground culvert, that went on for 400 yards, before emptying into a larger raging creek. I don't remember exactly what happened. A super strength took over me(adrenaline) I guess. But, the next thing I knew, we were safely ashore.

    The next time we were at the lake on a dock. He couldn't swim yet, but proceeded to jump off the end in about 7 feet of water, anyway. He sunk like a rock. I couldn't smim very well either. Again, I don't remember what happened. I jumped in after him. He then struggled and held us both down. I do remember having enough presenace of mind to start walking toward shore, with him on my shoulders. I don't know where that instinct came from. Divine Guidance, perhaps! We made it to the shallows, both gasping for air.

    Unfortunately, I couldn't save him a 3rd time. When he was 35, he was run over by a car and killed. Drunk driver! To beat it all, he was living with me at the time.

    Bill, all we can do is the BEST we can under given circumstances.

    Thanks for sharing your story. We are all human (I think?)lol.

    Hope, you are enjoing the UFO Congress.

    Take care,
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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    great story to share, thanks bill

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    I felt as though living the story, wonderful and thank you for being you Bill.

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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    Thanks for sharing Bill, shows that we are spiritual in nature.

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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    I just found this interesting old story, and decided it might be a good idea to attract some attention to it! (I see almost everyone else has visited here 3 years ago...)

    I mean, apart from having Bill in it, it is much more interesting than the New World Order, or all the bad, confused aliens, hanging somewhere in mid-air while we consider shooting at them. < -- joking!



    PS. Bill will definitely have to consider putting something more catchy in the names of some of the threads, or how otherwise are we supposed to find them.

    I found this one all by an accident! A happy one, I might add.
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    This is a powerful story. I think if we are all honest everyone has had to deal with a "life" dilemna similar to this but not as concrete. Thank-you Bill for sharing this deeply personal experience-it truly touched me. Blessings to you and your friend
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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    Wow! Words are inadequate here. Thanks so much for the share - it should be a scene in a movie!

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    Thank you for sharing this heart-felt and heart-told story, Bill. Such always makes my eyes well up with tears and release them, which in turn releases suppressed and non-beneficial energies within myself. Suppressing pain and guilt, rather than acknowledging and releasing such, very much manifests the ‘alien’ virus into our emotional body which subsequently affects our conscious ‘reality’.

    Since I have seen the film, such experiences as you have relayed, bring to my emotional consciousness the quote from the movie Starman, where the Starman says, ‘Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? (Meaning human beings and their spirit.) You are at your very best when things are worst.’ This is certainly not accurate for all at all times of facing the worst, but in the cases when it is, I find such tremendously uplifting, inspirational, and healing.
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    what a riveting story, full of insights, thank you for sharing it, and the pictures, also.

    I've never had the urge to experience extreme sports, walking in the meadow and pizza are more my speed.

    Bill, do you have Scottish or Welsh roots? I see the connection to Avalon in your picture as a young man.
    “a complete understanding of reality lies beyond the capabilities of rational thought."
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    Quote Posted by seah (here)
    what a riveting story, full of insights, thank you for sharing it, and the pictures, also.

    I've never had the urge to experience extreme sports, walking in the meadow and pizza are more my speed.

    Bill, do you have Scottish or Welsh roots? I see the connection to Avalon in your picture as a young man.
    Scottish and Irish, but sadly not Welsh. (I do love the Welsh, though! )

    Re extreme mountain experiences, I recently shared this very personal story, which is quite as extreme as it gets. The thread is Bill's 1924 Everest expedition photograph:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1039294

    Quote walking in the meadow
    ... you may be very wise!

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    A fantastic story. Lately, I feel quite grateful when I have an opportunity for an emotional experience (it wasnt always so!) I always feel better for having had it. So thank you Bill for taking the time to write this. It reached me emotionally and flooded me with a comforting warmth.

    I think you rescued your friend because you *had* to. Being a good man, your conscience wouldnt have allowed you a single peaceful moment had you not taken action. In a way, you didnt have a choice. Sure, mentally you could have justified not taking action, but your heart would have never forgiven you. Anyway, no matter how you cut it, it was an immensely brave and noble thing to do. As you say, the initial thought of leaving him there was simply survival instinctualism...and quite human. No shame there.

    Ive had some opportunities to be heroic...I was up to the task sometimes and other times I wasnt. I'm still haunted by the times I wasnt. Like you, I questioned myself deeply. Was I a coward? A bum? An emotional bot? Forgiving myself for these shortcomings hasnt been easy. No amount of alcohol can cause you to forget them. Trust me, ive tried. Having gone thru it, one realizes it would have been much easier to act in times of fear than to not act and live with the emotional and spiritual consequences. So, to read a story like this, it makes us feel like we all can access that bigger side of us that trancends fear and the selfish instinct. It's an inspiring reminder
    My head says 'who cares?', but my heart whispers 'you do, stupid...'"

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    Default Re: A day in the mountains: a tale of forgiveness

    Thanks so much for sharing that, Bill.
    That kind of exposure takes a very different kind of courage than climbing Everest, but it's comparable.
    I would also very much like to know who did that regression work with you, and also what that experience was like!
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