Wikileaks update (and "beyond")

[Calz]

I found this interesting ... particularly coming from CNN:

Anonymous vows to take leaking to the next level

Full story here:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe...ous/index.html

[king anthony]

Mainstream media reporting on independent media!?



Interesting

[ponda]

Thanks for that Calz

So it looks like if they put the squeeze on Wiki then two more will pop up in its place.Interesting times ahead

[moais]

YOU DON'T MESS WITH ANONYMOUS...

Julian assange is done for...
which other will rise to his place? or will anonymous take the chance and steal back his internet and freedom?
lol...

[Lord Sidious]

I just saw a ''news break'' and it seems a judge has ordered Assange to be extradited to Sweden.

[Gaia]

The reason why Wikileaks seems like such a new idea is because we've become so used to having weak news media which is obsessed with trivia and celebrity and doesn't dare do anything which might make their government or sponsors uncomfortable. If the news media actually did journalism them we wouldn't need Wikileaks.

[Ruby L.]

Thanks for the article, Calz_Avaretard -- very interesting read and, like King Anthony noted, interesting that CNN would report it...

Thanks, too, Lord Sidious, for the news update. My fingers ran to check the news right after I read your post. Crud! Poor bugger!

Zook will definitely puke, but I, for one, stand behind Assange for all he's done and is trying to do. In fact, I throw petals at his feet… though from the sounds of it, it'd help more if it were cash.

I do remember that in December, Assange had put out an ecrypted file for people worldwide to download-- an insurance policy were anything to happen to him. In the case that it did, a key code would be distributed to unlock the files and *presto!*, a whole lotta discriminating info is likely to appear…. far more embarrassing stuff than that of Hilary putting out orders to get passwords of U.N. members' email accounts (illegal), or Gaddafi having a buxom, blonde nurse (illicit).

Be very careful, helluminated ones… Be very, very careful.

I'm sure everyone's seen this-- but please, indulge me. It's genial!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NXbCwq4ewBU

(Rap News: The Juice Media.com)

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I just saw a ''news break'' and it seems a judge has ordered Assange to be extradited to Sweden.

Yep. He will have to face the (most likely) bogus charges there.

The real story is that *from there* he will get extradited to the states imho ... guess we will find out.

Time to pass the torch to ANONYMOUS it would seem.

[seko]

I agree with Gaia but because the main stream media is part of TPTB we need wikileaks or anonymous. We need people to get the truth out and not being afraid of tell in it.

[K626]

Posted by Gaia (here)
The reason why Wikileaks seems like such a new idea is because we've become so used to having weak news media which is obsessed with trivia and celebrity and doesn't dare do anything which might make their government or sponsors uncomfortable. If the news media actually did journalism them we wouldn't need Wikileaks.

Good point, well made. Big business and advertising funding has done for the manistream news and current events I'm afraid. Pretty much all of it is agenda setting for the elites.

cheers

k

[Gaia]

Posted by K626 (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)
The reason why Wikileaks seems like such a new idea is because we've become so used to having weak news media which is obsessed with trivia and celebrity and doesn't dare do anything which might make their government or sponsors uncomfortable. If the news media actually did journalism them we wouldn't need Wikileaks.

Good point, well made. Big business and advertising funding has done for the manistream news and current events I'm afraid. Pretty much all of it is agenda setting for the elites.

cheers

k

Most of the main media is owned by big business, and are more likely to ignore or cover up its shortcomings, to put it mildly.
Consequently, the msn (in the main) reputation has suffered, and deservedly so. There are other examples too: The swine flu hysteria promoted by the msn, climate change, the financial crisis, have largely been given a free pass, and not searching and detailed exposure to get the truth out, which has been left to the alternative or nascent media.

News is mostly a commodity, and unless it is exclusive or of a very high standard of journalism, with truth as its spine if not body, won't attract payment$$$$

[K626]

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by K626 (here)

Posted by Gaia (here)
The reason why Wikileaks seems like such a new idea is because we've become so used to having weak news media which is obsessed with trivia and celebrity and doesn't dare do anything which might make their government or sponsors uncomfortable. If the news media actually did journalism them we wouldn't need Wikileaks.

Good point, well made. Big business and advertising funding has done for the manistream news and current events I'm afraid. Pretty much all of it is agenda setting for the elites.

cheers

k

Most of the main media is owned by big business, and are more likely to ignore or cover up its shortcomings, to put it mildly.
Consequently, the msn (in the main) reputation has suffered, and deservedly so. There are other examples too: The swine flu hysteria promoted by the msn, climate change, the financial crisis, have largely been given a free pass, and not searching and detailed exposure to get the truth out, which has been left to the alternative or nascent media.

News is mostly a commodity, and unless it is exclusive or of a very high standard of journalism, with truth as its spine if not body, won't attract payment$$$$

Interesting points. I happen to think the paradigm now either DOES NOT include the truth or spins the truth to supplant a view that supports whatever power structure or body is involved ie Banking news is watered down so as not to affect the stock market and so as not to give the populous as a whole the tools to join the dots.

Over recent years I've also noticed the role played by celebraties, the Hollywood system and others of this ilk in promoting a non-thinking 'wow' agenda. Many multi layered distractions and time eating entertainment are now part of 'the news' and the news or great chunks of it is now hardly often distinguishable from 'entertainment'.



cheers

K

[Calz]

Gaia wrote (among other good points):

Most of the main media is owned by big business, and are more likely to ignore or cover up its shortcomings, to put it mildly.

Yep ... top 6 or 7 media outlets all controlled by the elite.

Journalists need not apply.

Like a machine the elite use their money well. News reporters and politicians have become of the same ilk ... paid to read teleprompters and look/sound good. Nothing else.

But alas ... there seems to be change in the air ... and I expect (as Bill points out) why we signed up for this little stint on the planet

[K626]

Personally I believe that the Wikileaks phenomena is the way forward. I sense that virutual platforms that intercept and subvert the main voice (mass media) is the way. That alternative and often more correct/independant info can be seeded across the discourse.

Christ! I'm not even sure what that means.

cheers

K

[Calz]

Posted by K626 (here)
Personally I believe that the Wikileaks phenomena is the way forward. I sense that virutual platforms that intercept and subvert the main voice (mass media) is the way. That alternative and often more correct/independant info can be seeded across the discourse.

Christ! I'm not even sure what that means.

cheers

K

and why they have the "kill switch" for the internet (or more appropriately ... filtered selections of websites since the corporations need their cash).

If you want to "look forward" how about taking several steps and we evolve into a species that joins most of the rest of the Universe that (allegedly) has telepathy???

No newspapers needed there I expect

[Gaia]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by K626 (here)
Personally I believe that the Wikileaks phenomena is the way forward. I sense that virutual platforms that intercept and subvert the main voice (mass media) is the way. That alternative and often more correct/independant info can be seeded across the discourse.

Christ! I'm not even sure what that means.

cheers

K

and why they have the "kill switch" for the internet (or more appropriately ... filtered selections of websites since the corporations need their cash).

If you want to "look forward" how about taking several steps and we evolve into a species that joins most of the rest of the Universe that (allegedly) has telepathy???

No newspapers needed there I expect

Twenty years ago, it may have been possible to "shut down" the Internet. Today, the damage done to the economy would dwarf any potential cyberthreat.

[Calz]

Found this on redicecreations ... "Top Story: Stephen Colbert *IS* Anonymous?"

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=14389

[Fred259]

Be Careful folks, Assange and Wickileaks are controlled by Rothschild,

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...iversity-Union)

[giovonni]

it is good to see someone in government speak their truth

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Wikileaks row: US spokesman Crowley quits over gaffe


Mr Crowley later added that his remarks were his own opinion

13 March 2011 Last updated at 14:28 ET

US state department spokesman PJ Crowley has resigned after calling the treatment of the man accused of leaking secret cables to Wikileaks "stupid".

He said he was taking responsibility for the impact of his remarks about Bradley Manning.

Private Manning is being held in solitary confinement at a maximum security US military jail.

He has been on suicide watch at the Quantico marine base in Virginia and is shackled at all times.

He faces 34 charges relating to the leaking of 720,000 diplomatic and military documents.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she accepted Mr Crowley's resignation "with regret".

She said he had served his nation "with distinction", "motivated by a deep devotion to public policy and public diplomacy".

'Ridiculous'

Mr Crowley was speaking to an audience at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology about new media and foreign policy when he made the controversial remarks.

He was asked by a participant about the "the elephant in the room" - Wikileaks - and, in the questioner's words, "torturing a prisoner in a military brig".

"I spent 26 years in the air force," Mr Crowley reportedly replied.

"What is happening to Manning is ridiculous, counterproductive and stupid, and I don't know why the DoD [Department of Defense] is doing it. Nevertheless, Manning is in the right place."

He said his comments were on the record, though he later added that they were his own opinion.

In his resignation letter he said: "Given the impact of my remarks, for which I take full responsibility, I have submitted my resignation."

His remarks were revealed in a blog by the BBC's Philippa Thomas, who attended the event.

President Barack Obama later insisted he had received assurances that the terms of Pte Manning's confinement were "appropriate".

Earlier this year, rights organisation Amnesty International expressed concern about the conditions in which Mr Manning was being held.

It said he had been held "for 23 hours a day in a sparsely furnished solitary cell and deprived of a pillow, sheets, and personal possessions since July 2010".

He was also reportedly forced to disrobe on a daily basis.

Source;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12728315

[The One]

Mr Crowley thank you

At last someone with balls