US Backing for World Currency Stuns Markets

[Dorok]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
You continue to agree to these adhesion contracts via your birth certificate, your social security, your voter registration your drivers license, your vehicle registration, your trust deed on your house, etc. You are nothing more than chattel for the bankruptcy.

I think it's important to keep in perspective who is actually responsible for the US national dept.

I agree that what is quoted above is the precedent that is operational and depending on your reading of the above cited 'social contracts' and even be considered 'legal'. What I mean is that the language of the contracts is such that it is impossible to imply informed consent on the part of individuals to be compelled to pay the dept incurred by another entity. For example, if I drew up a contract where some words were defined opposite by me as they are by you, then no court should hold that as valid.

I plead insanity due to breach of common sense!

[shybastid]

I'm curious. For all the money the U.S. spends our our War Machine daily, and our black op hidden money's spent , whether we created antigravity machines from learned WW2 technolgy, or reverse engineered it from a crashed UFO, should'nt we have some back up cash?
We really so broke no one wants our dough?
Not saying I don't believe it.

And I'm sure SOME PTB really want US economy to tank from a global standpoint.

But,sometimes I wondor if Obama did'nt scrap our NASA budget knowing it's all a front for what goes on behind the scenes anyway.

But shouldn't we be able to capitolize on it at some point from a commercialisation standpoint?

I find it truly amazing that the State of Neveda is owned 92% by the U.S. Governement.
http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/ot...govt030705.htm

When you add Las Vegas and the amount of liquid cash spent there,HOW could they be dead last in economic stability?

It's kinda like our Country..and Vegas... It LOOKS like it SHOULD be solid.

Somehow Vegas and U.S. bookeepers have a way of hiding wealth for personal reasons, at the expense of our Country,State and Individuals..

This whole money thing smells to no end.

And don't send "Louie" from Vegas after me to collect any vigorish.

U.S. Government has the I.R.S. They don't "smack"you..they just pull funds from your bank accounts.

Sorry for the rant.. Pretty frustrating though.

[king anthony]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
Every dollar in my pocket is my property. The vast majority of government leaders in the USA are traitors. The vast majority of American people are deluded.

How can the owned own, when ownership of all is underfoot!? Do not those who rule the many of the land, do so not from within!? Are not the eyes most deceived when what is seen is merely in thought!? I say, one may journey to the stars, but only achieve the hill from where one stands, unless ability is gained to continue.

'None are more hopelessly enslaved then those who falsely believe they are free.'

Does not unity lack conflict and rejection!?

[king anthony]

Posted by Jonathon (here)
WE are the money. It's we that are being traded and leveraged. WE are the surety. What is being printed is by our consent - we have agreed, unwittingly, to indenture ourselves to and for a 'great society'

Posted by Jonathon (here)
He's not splitting hairs here. This is exceedingly important to understand. The reason Caesar's face was printed on coin was because it belonged to Caesar. You are taking a benefit/privileged GRANTED to you by Caesar when you use it. Anyone who takes a benefit/privilege is a debtor - not a sovereign being. Because you are the debtor in the relationship, you have no control or authority other than that which is GRANTED by the creditor.... You GRANTED them control. That's voluntary servitude, which is absolutely legal/constitutional.

Words of fact.

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by Jonathon (here)
He's not splitting hairs here. This is exceedingly important to understand. The reason Caesar's face was printed on coin was because it belonged to Caesar.

Don't make me laugh. This is a sociopathic mind control trick. I understand all the legal babble, as if right and wrong can be made equivalent with the turn of a phrase. It's no different than software licenses that say, "By using this software, you agree to the following...." Sorry, but I do not agree. It's almost to the point where there is a virtual contract that says, "By existing, you agree to the following...." Maybe you agree with that, but I sure as hell don't.

[Jonathon]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by Jonathon (here)
He's not splitting hairs here. This is exceedingly important to understand. The reason Caesar's face was printed on coin was because it belonged to Caesar.

Don't make me laugh. This is a sociopathic mind control trick. I understand all the legal babble, as if right and wrong can be made equivalent with the turn of a phrase. It's no different than software licenses that say, "By using this software, you agree to the following...." Sorry, but I do not agree. It's almost to the point where there is a virtual contract that says, "By existing, you agree to the following...." Maybe you agree with that, but I sure as hell don't.

Your agreement is determined by action, not by thought. As the saying goes "I can't hear what you are saying over what you are doing". Conduct IS the contract. Your use is your agreement. The license agreement acts as a memorialized reminder and further is a guarantee of your rights and duties as debtor in the contract. What you think you are doing is immaterial.

Do you deny that you agree to exist? Everything you experience is by your agreement whether you accept it or not.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
The dollar isn't your property, so no, it isn't treason.

Come on. You're splitting hairs here. Every dollar in my pocket is my property. The vast majority of government leaders in the USA are traitors. The vast majority of American people are deluded. Getting all technical over these issues is NWO double-speak, i.e. WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. Don't perpetrate the brainwashing.

How is it yours?
Did you issue it?
Is your name on it?
Whose credit are you using to ''purchase'' goods and/or services?
And no, getting technical is called being precise, it is the difference between good and close enough.
Try doing that in a court and see how far you get.
You think Bill, as a physicist could just say close enough is good enough?
Being correct is THE way to break that brainwashing, not thinking nice thoughts about other entitie's currency.

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by Jonathon (here)
He's not splitting hairs here. This is exceedingly important to understand. The reason Caesar's face was printed on coin was because it belonged to Caesar.

Don't make me laugh. This is a sociopathic mind control trick. I understand all the legal babble, as if right and wrong can be made equivalent with the turn of a phrase. It's no different than software licenses that say, "By using this software, you agree to the following...." Sorry, but I do not agree. It's almost to the point where there is a virtual contract that says, "By existing, you agree to the following...." Maybe you agree with that, but I sure as hell don't.

Your agreement or lack of determines nothing if you are incorrect.
What you call legal babble can be the difference between jail or freedom, so it isn't something without merit to study.

[mondaze]

every dollar is lent to you for interest. This is the nature of the so-called Federal bank.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

sorry i seem to repeated the jist of the noble lords missive.

[Sabrina]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...ners-slip.html

A world currency moves nearer after Tim Geithner's slip
US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner confessed on Wednesday that he had not read the plans by China's central bank governor for a "super-sovereign reserve currency" run by the International Monetary Fund, but nevertheless let slip that Washington was "open" to the idea. Whoops.


This is how matters quickly escalate in geo-finance. China's suggestion – backed by Russia, Brazil, and India, and clearly aimed at breaking US dollar hegemony – is making its way onto the agenda of the G20 Summit next week. 'Dollar-dämmerung' no longer looks so far-fetched.
China's paper, by Governor Zhou Xiaochuan, is couched in understated language – more a 'thought experiment' than a declaration of monetary war. His ideas could be mistaken for the musings of an academic theorist. Nobody should be fooled by decorum.
It comes days after premier Wen Jiabow demanded US action to safeguard the value of China's holdings of US bonds - $740bn of US Treasuries and a further $600bn or so of other debt. "We have lent huge amounts of money to the US. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets," he said.
China's Communist Party seems to fear that the Federal Reserve is orchestrating a beggar-thy-neighbour devaluation - and a disguised default on America's foreign debt - by resorting to the nuclear option of printing money to buy US Treasury bonds.
China's proposal is to activate the IMF's power to issue Special Drawing Rights (SDRs). The IMF would be groomed as de facto central bank for the planet. The SDRs would gradually become an "accepted means of payment". Call it the 'globo'.

[Tom Sawyer]

Hello All!

Lord Sidious, are we speaking about the rules of "The $ game" issued by the Elite?
If so - I fully agree with you.

In my opinion Chicodoodoo meant that we as humans have the ultimate right on
every single peace of wealth earned by us. And we shouldn't delegate such authority
to the third parties. Especially if we deny such an idiotic financial system.

From the opposite the financier in me (education) knows that we are in a
big trouble and we've being hijacked long time ago. I know the rules of "The $ game"
and it makes me sick. I know that US dollar is rubbish - it doesn't represent
an equivalent of wealth now but the quintessence of debt.

TS

[sygh]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

Tim Geithner shocked global markets by revealing that Washington is “quite open” to Chinese proposals for the gradual development of a global reserve currency run by the International Monetary Fund.

Now there's a scary thought.

I find it astonishing that any government can make this type of decision and announcement without first consulting the people.

When Presidents make this type of statement, we can be assured that this changeover is imminent.

Is this not traitorous?

You gotta love Democracy

If only it were a Democratic Republic, right now it is not. Tim Geither has to go, as does the Federal Reserve. The US government is totally out of phase with her people and has been for quite some time. It is not the people who are rogue, it is the government. I, for one, cannot support our government...

added for clarification by a very good suggestion from Lord Sid. -as long as our government continues to support coroprations over her people, or stays in cahoots with the Federal Reserve. I hope people all over the US start standing up to the outragous actions of a run away Federal Reserve banking system. IMO, they'd rather chip us in one fashion or another and try to control us -telling us that we are out of hand, rather than recognize the fact that we don't want the kind of future they're trying to sell us. Look at the Supreme Court ruling concerning corporations allowing to finance a political candidate without limits. Does anyone still think the US is a Democratic Republic? Can there be any doubt left? I hope I'm making sense. Keep me straight.

Thanks Lord Sid.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by sygh (here)

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

Tim Geithner shocked global markets by revealing that Washington is “quite open” to Chinese proposals for the gradual development of a global reserve currency run by the International Monetary Fund.

Now there's a scary thought.

I find it astonishing that any government can make this type of decision and announcement without first consulting the people.

When Presidents make this type of statement, we can be assured that this changeover is imminent.

Is this not traitorous?

You gotta love Democracy

If only it were a Democratic Republic, right now it is not and Tim Geither has to go, as does the Federal Reserve. This doesn't look like the US government any longer to the many, as well as myself. It looks like our government has turned her back on her people, in no uncertain terms. I, for one, cannot support this.

I don't know if you made an error in your post or not, meaning a republic, but a democratic republic is NOT something you want anything to do with.
So many of the ''refugees'' that are in the western nations are from democratic republics, such as congo and the rest.
No communism for me thanks.

Not having a shot at you, just taking the opportunity to point this out and to reiterate my earlier point about being accurate.

[Lancelot]

Ive got an idea-

How about a one world currency - love

[sygh]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by sygh (here)

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

Tim Geithner shocked global markets by revealing that Washington is “quite open” to Chinese proposals for the gradual development of a global reserve currency run by the International Monetary Fund.

Now there's a scary thought.

I find it astonishing that any government can make this type of decision and announcement without first consulting the people.

When Presidents make this type of statement, we can be assured that this changeover is imminent.

Is this not traitorous?

You gotta love Democracy

If only it were a Democratic Republic, right now it is not and Tim Geither has to go, as does the Federal Reserve. This doesn't look like the US government any longer to the many, as well as myself. It looks like our government has turned her back on her people, in no uncertain terms. I, for one, cannot support this.

I don't know if you made an error in your post or not, meaning a republic, but a democratic republic is NOT something you want anything to do with.
So many of the ''refugees'' that are in the western nations are from democratic republics, such as congo and the rest.
No communism for me thanks.

Not having a shot at you, just taking the opportunity to point this out and to reiterate my earlier point about being accurate.

Well, I was trying to be accurate. The US is supposed to be a Republic that votes her Reps in by the democratic process, thus it has been referred to as a Democratic Republic, even though one could argue it is a Federated Republic under constitution. Still, some laws are passed within the states that are democratic as well, so... Is that better?

[king anthony]

Posted by sygh (here)
...a Democratic Republic...

This cannot be as they are opposites.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by sygh (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by sygh (here)

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

Tim Geithner shocked global markets by revealing that Washington is “quite open” to Chinese proposals for the gradual development of a global reserve currency run by the International Monetary Fund.

Now there's a scary thought.

I find it astonishing that any government can make this type of decision and announcement without first consulting the people.

When Presidents make this type of statement, we can be assured that this changeover is imminent.

Is this not traitorous?

You gotta love Democracy

If only it were a Democratic Republic, right now it is not and Tim Geither has to go, as does the Federal Reserve. This doesn't look like the US government any longer to the many, as well as myself. It looks like our government has turned her back on her people, in no uncertain terms. I, for one, cannot support this.

I don't know if you made an error in your post or not, meaning a republic, but a democratic republic is NOT something you want anything to do with.
So many of the ''refugees'' that are in the western nations are from democratic republics, such as congo and the rest.
No communism for me thanks.

Not having a shot at you, just taking the opportunity to point this out and to reiterate my earlier point about being accurate.

Well, I was trying to be accurate. The US is supposed to be a Republic that votes her Reps in by the democratic process, thus it has been referred to as a Democratic Republic, even though one could argue it is a Federated Republic under constitution. Still, some laws are passed within the states that are democratic as well, so... Is that better?

It is meant to be a republic, all the extra floss is unnecessary.

[modwiz]

Unless I am mistaken, ( then I can be corrected) the World Bank IMF and Central Banks (Federal Reserve= American Central Bank) are all one big world money government and our Federal Reserve system being willing to fall under the IMF is like ABC news agreeing to be called Disney news.

Basically a subsidiary entity is being absorbed into the parent entity. The child is moving back in with their parents.

Like the above situation there will be some surrender of rights but as King Anthony has pointed out those rights have been surrendered for some time now by the American people.

It is the Matrix scenario where Morpheus tells Neo that most people are not only deep into the Matrix they will resist and fight to stay there.
There was one character who betrayed his friends, murdering some, so that he could return to the fake world and eat steak.

We have met the enemy* and it is ourselves.

(* enemy; a rival, a force at odds with a desired goal)

[Anchor]

When were the markets stunned and where was it written up please?

I need to see some mainstream business coverage of this issue - can anyone help?

I work in a Financial Institution and no-one is talking about this. I need credible reports in Reuters or Bloomberg etc - cant find anything.

[Herbert]

As long as there is money there is inequality. Scrap the system and bring down the corporations. I'm willing to give my produce away to anyone who needs it . How about the rest of you? That is the only sane way to live responsibly. All we need is the will and logistics to feed and house 7 Billion people. This is a wealthy planet . Stop the destruction. Stop bickering. Stop looking for division.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Im all for a one world currency. Its called barter.