Real Human History???

[Etherios]

I was chating with a friend of mine that i still cant get him to think outside the box. He really believes waht the new testement says and like anything contradicting that is a lie or disinfo. I will continue my best to chat with him and try to avoid fights (hard thing to do hehe)

Anyway he gave me a very good Question yesterday.

Is there a place/database or something similar that has the true History of Humanity?

My thoughts on this. Even when we manage to get our selves free ... then what? Is the history really lost? So many lies and hidden truths how are we gonna be able to find whats true and whats not? This goes from the simplest things to the most complicated ones.

Examples for this:

1 - Huge number of people are raised believing lies and disinfo so that the rulers can gain from conflicts. For example here in Greece we were raised to think the Turks are evil, in the old times Persians were the evils etc. I am sure they were told similar things. How we will be able to escape these lies and propaganda? Will we be able to find the true history?

2 - Legends that did extreme things ... Alexander the great, Chekins Chan, Hercules etc will we ever find their true stories?

3 - The motives behind the Dark ages and the crusades, Hitlers true motives etc etc
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X - to the most complicated ones How we were created and why? And how long ago etc.

Even if there is this kind of pool of info, who and how will it be shared? Will humanity believe it or thing its just a lie? After disclosure will be a huge chaos and an avalanche of info/disinfo/propaganda.

What you guys think is there such a place of wisdom and will we ever be able to share its secrets?

[witchy1]

Oh I think the Vatican may have the answers you desire - LOL

[Etherios]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Oh I think the Vatican may have the answers you desire - LOL

this doesnt make me feel good ... at all.

[siggy]

I guess forums like this are a good place to start (like I am now, after years of watching youtube video's, coast-to-coast, etc).

But even then its a hard matter to sift through and take what you believe or that which makes sense to you!

Eg, I can accept Imperialist agenda's, bilderbergers, etc enslaving the masses - dumbing us down, keeping technology hidden, even population control, etc, because I can see & feel it unraveling all around me everyday!

I start to get less certain about reptilians and an ET agenda, etc.... although my mind isn't closed. It's just that I don't feel I have any experience of such things.

[blake]

Posted by Etherios (here)
I was chating with a friend of mine that i still cant get him to think outside the box. He really believes waht the new testement says and like anything contradicting that is a lie or disinfo. I will continue my best to chat with him and try to avoid fights (hard thing to do hehe)

Anyway he gave me a very good Question yesterday.

Is there a place/database or something similar that has the true History of Humanity?

My thoughts on this. Even when we manage to get our selves free ... then what? Is the history really lost? So many lies and hidden truths how are we gonna be able to find whats true and whats not? This goes from the simplest things to the most complicated ones.

Examples for this:

1 - Huge number of people are raised believing lies and disinfo so that the rulers can gain from conflicts. For example here in Greece we were raised to think the Turks are evil, in the old times Persians were the evils etc. I am sure they were told similar things. How we will be able to escape these lies and propaganda? Will we be able to find the true history?

2 - Legends that did extreme things ... Alexander the great, Chekins Chan, Hercules etc will we ever find their true stories?

3 - The motives behind the Dark ages and the crusades, Hitlers true motives etc etc
.
.
.
X - to the most complicated ones How we were created and why? And how long ago etc.

Even if there is this kind of pool of info, who and how will it be shared? Will humanity believe it or thing its just a lie? After disclosure will be a huge chaos and an avalanche of info/disinfo/propaganda.

What you guys think is there such a place of wisdom and will we ever be able to share its secrets?

Hello Etherios,

You are a person after my own heart. You ask the million dollar questions, or is it that you ask the forbidden questions? I wish I had concrete answers, for I understand how very earnest your questions are. Unfortunately, I don’t have any answers for you; and I truly believe that not one person on this forum has any concrete answers either. I do believe “Charles”, in his earlier posts, wrote that he would share with us the true history of the human race; but, unless I missed something, he did not. Is that called lying?

I believe it is true, that the Vatican and other places hold very ancient records. And I believe that if humans could freely have access to all their ancient resources maybe we, humankind, could put our best minds together, and piece together our true history. But we are dealing with the nature of humans, and their use of information; and sadly, whether it’s whole, or just bits and pieces, information is generally used to control others, not to enlighten or support the truth. Watching children, have you ever watched them taunt others in a sing song fashion with the words: “I know something that you don’t know!” Unfortunately, on many levels, even the average adult today will do a similar act in their own fashion, just not as overt, as the child who comes out so glaringly in taunting others in the information power game. And that power could be real power with severe meaning and consequences, or it simply could be superficial power to feed the ego, or help rationalize their true ignorance.

Some people like to give clues as to what they infer they know, or like to direct truth seekers to read between the lines. Answers like that, along with cryptic, and incomplete answers, while suggesting that “they know the answer”, usually means they don’t really know very much at all, and are only feeding their own egos, or are trying to control you. So if someone can’t spit out a straight and complete answer, it tells me quite a bit about their nature.

I have not yet found any repository of knowledge, freely shared with the average human, that can answer those million dollar, heartfelt questions of yours. When reviewing the many researchers, over the decades, and with all the technology we presently have, it would appear that if humans ever cooperated with each other, and worked together instead of giving, flip answers, incomplete answers, or cryptic answers etc, then I think many of your million dollars questions might be answered. But humans seldom work well together when the issue of power or control, on any level, exists. When have you ever seen a group of people putting their heads together, placing the pieces “ of what we know for sure” on a big board for all to see; holding space and allowing others to freely contribute to filling in the missing pieces of what they do know for sure, which would help all of us to get closer to the truth. But, I haven’t seen anything like that happen here at project Avalon, or any where else. Why humans are not more cooperative, organized, or generous in their sharing of this knowledge seems to be another forbidden question.

No one has the time to read all, and to study all. Isn’t that why we are all in different industries to share our skills and knowledge? We all can’t study medicine, literature and architecture in one life time. We all can’t read all the books in the library, or watch all the videos; but we can share our different resources openly and debate findings. We can be like spiders searching different resources, and then returning to compare notes and bring pieces together. And until we stop trying to control others with information, your million dollar questions will never be answered. But they will be played with, in order to continue the pretense that we may ever get at the truth. We will be kept busy in our disorganized fashion of pursuit as “truth seekers” and never “truth finders.” Why that is acceptable is a big unknown to me.


I believe the myths you speak of are clues to the truth. I believe, there are also clues in the bible, as well as in architecture, art, literature, language, customs, and archeology etc. The truth is scattered everywhere if only humans were more organized, cooperative and trueful in sharing in what they know for sure. So many people have studied ancient archeology; and these researchers have done a great job of uncovering enough facts to show that what we were taught is our history is a lie, but still do not have enough organized facts to reveal the true history. It almost seems as if we are only allowed to discover enough to make us aware that there is a mystery to our past, but we are never allowed all the information in an organized state to see our true history. Hmmmm, I guess even in the arena of seeking the truth, we all are still controlled. And I talk not just of the PTB controlling us, but it appears that in their own special way, those who “seek the truth” also sometimes create even more barriers, or deeper, more complex mazes to the truth from their inability to cooperate, and share freely with others, just like the little children tauntingly singing, “ I know something that you don’t know”. We all make decisions at one time or another of what the world at large should know, or not know. How many times do people rationalize not to “release” information because the world “can’t handle it.” And that means “YOU” can’t handle it.

Various people have their beliefs of what is true and what is not true. Many claim to know a lot of the truth, but I ‘m waging that no one, at least on this forum, actually knows anything about the history of the human race for sure. They may express things that they think they know; they may speculate what might be the truth, but I found few humans who could look at me in the face, and say one thing that they know for sure about the history of the human race. And yet I have come across many who won’t look me in the eye and claim they know much, but can only share it under the most” guarded wording” that really says nothing at all.

I challenge everyone reading this forum to share something that you know for sure about these million dollars questions. And then share what you only think you know. And what pieces to the puzzle you are looking for.

And if this post upsets anyone, for what ever reason, my apology in advance.

I applaud Etherios for asking such excellent questions; and I sincerely hope that all will ponder deeply, and not superficially or flipantly his million dollar questions.

Most Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
3/21/11

[Autumn]

Ha ha, if they do the truth is locked away in their extensive but hidden library so they can keep getting rich from their lie.

Have you read up on religion? ALL religions? In them are the truth, but you have to decipher them as they are written in a way where only the ... what is a good word ... enlightened/ready/awakened can understand.

One of the keys is hidden in science. Our genome. Blood types. The Y cromosone. Alchamy (also encrypted for the weakminded/unawakened/sheeple not to lose it over) has a key too.

Astro theology is an exiting subject but remember that neither the bible or any other subject will tell you two plus two is four if it can put up a figurative way of doing it. You have to at least know that you are looking for a piece of math and not a story of saints who will save us all by chanting the sacred number plus one or something rediculous like that. Everything is symbolism not just to the Masons who are in fact the keepers of the knowledge of much more than just the origin of man. Think and think a lot, learn and learn a lot - that's why you have a brain and one is ready to use it when awakening from the zombie state. But you have been dumbed down by TPTB because you are worth more as a tax payer (slave) than a free thinking individual so it's like having to learn how to walk again before you can learn how to run again. But think about the human worth as a tax payer. The same as the sheeple are worth to the church ... more money! You have to stay dumb so they get money, power etc. and if you knew the origin of man then the churches would lose everything as you no longer had to believe and also would know that sin is not something you can "just" say 3 prayers to get rid of. Their job is to keep you in fear and thus in line and that's why most of ancient literature has ben burned.

Many old religions tell the same tale in just as many ways as they are in numbers. But nothing is just a tale; it is told in a way worth remembering. Humans personifies objects to feel and thus remember it easier. Was Marduk really a God or a planet when he slew Tiamat? Tiamat is supposed to be Earth, so was Marduk a God or a comet or ... ? This is our problem today - our culture has evolved away from the keys to understand the true meanings of ancent writings and we shove it in a box called myths. But the Bible is taken literaly and at faces value even though it is compiled from all the other religions (now boxed as myths) and based mainly on the ancient sumerian tales of the creation of the world and man. 6 clay tablets plus 1 to honor the 50 names of Marduk. 6 days of creation and 1 to rest and marvel? And then the powers of that time made a compilation of what they could use to rule over a people taking the only thing from them they could not controle - and thus an immortal souls death or enslavement was invented to controle the masses.

Huge subject ... but as long as someone refuses to read anything else than the Bible they will stay ignorant of God.

[Etherios]

Siggy the point is the lies and disinfo is so deep in our education and lives that it make you wonder if we will ever be able to escape them. From the simplest things they start. If we get a few of the "alternative" history to talk about the school books in almost all the countries world wide we will see how little true historic events are been told to kids. This isnt new its been going on for ages. For the love of god they persuade thousand of crusaders that killing millions is an act of love and gods orders. Do you see many now days giving any blame to the church or anyone else?

We have been raised to believe slaughter and death is natural in human history. Anyway i am not very optimistic about this.

I would love if anyone knew or had any feelings if at least there is a "safe" place that the true events are stored and not the distorted history we are been fed.

[Etherios]

Posted by Autumn (here)
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Huge subject ... but as long as someone refuses to read anything else than the Bible they will stay ignorant of God.

Exactly what i am trying to explain to my friend. I just push him to read, not persuade him. I try to make him search on his own but in the end everyday life takes 90%+ of his day so the rest has to be used for fun and rest not higher meanings (he says).

So you guys think vatican and mason hold these truths? Or they have destroyed them for ever? I mean why keep something that can defeat you?

[tkh123186]

Posted by Etherios (here)
What you guys think is there such a place of wisdom and will we ever be able to share its secrets?

Try having him read the following book by Maxwell Igan.

http://thecrowhouse.com/projects.html - Earths Forbidden Secrets - Searching for the Past

[the trojan]

I dont think anyone on this planet who is alive knows what the truth is.

[Odah]

Whay part of the true human history do you want to know .. do you want to know how we became enslaved or when.. Do you want to know that human history is a farce and has been a series of scripted events leading to the world we have now . There is enough that has ben hidden from us in the last 50 years that would change the way people think.. setting out a story that humanity has truly been an enslaved race ..and none of its accomplisments are really it's accomplishment .. Every human who has ever lived has been a puppet on a string.

how much more about history need to be known.

[king anthony]

Posted by Etherios (here)
I will continue my best to chat with him and try to avoid fights (hard thing to do hehe)

Anyway he gave me a very good Question yesterday.

Is there a place/database or something similar that has the true History of Humanity?

My thoughts on this. Even when we manage to get our selves free ... then what?

Even if there is this kind of pool of info, who and how will it be shared?

What you guys think is there such a place of wisdom and will we ever be able to share its secrets?

Everyone has potential, however, not everyone has ability - this applies even when one attempts to 'open another's eyes' (not to fact, but the search of it). The reality is, most will not know and/or understand and I know these words will not win favor with most. All one can do is say, 'look, listen and search'.

The true history has been fragmented over time. Truth has been mixed with deceit and the history of human beings, is how it is written today. The closer one can be to the source of 'the beginnings', the closer one will be to the truth .

Research skills are important to verify and 'weed out' the lies; never trust one source and be mindful of other source's source - when on the journey. 'What happened there, when this was happening here' is but one example of separating fact from 'fiction'.

What matters now and tomorrow are not the details of the achievements or events of yesterday, either by one or by nation; but rather, why human beings are and what can be learned from the stories, in what is known as history.