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    is it ok to put unplugged power cords in a farady cage along with the equipment they belong to?

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    will foil act as a farady cage?
    Only if you make a 4 pointed hat out of it.

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    Well, in my opinion, it´s not worth bothering to protect computers an most other electronic stuff.

    In case of a big EMP caused by a solar storm, the whole grid will fry to the bone, including satellites.

    Specialists estimate that it would take years, maybe decades, to rebuild the whole grid structure.

    So, what is it worth to have a computer, without internet nowadays? Of course, you could hook your computer to a generator, but for what, to play games or to type some words in the word processor?
    Sure, there are sufficiently large EMP's that can take down the whole grid.

    However ...

    1) There are intermediate threats which will leave much standing or repairable within months. If one of those hits, I'd rather be one of those with computer equipment still working.

    2) Computers to have uses even without the Internet. I used computers for 20 years before connecting to the Internet. I have a vast library of reading on my computer (far more than I would ever print out), which may serve to inform or entertain. With a working computer, and a radio, I could publish a newsletter for my neighbors.

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    If someone can prove me wrong, then I humbly apologize!

    However, My husband designs fuses. He is into circuit protection, thin film, ceramic, used to be in power fuse, etc..

    All electronics today are protected by fuses. The fuses in you car will stop it from frying out the circuits in the event of an EMP. All modern day electronics have fuses in them. They are designed so that if they take a hit from a power surge the fuse opens up and power is stopped from continuing through the circuitry. In the case of today's smaller electronics like the IPad and IPhone the fuses are printed and laminated on the boards.

    So for your vehicle, stock up on extra fuses. For small electronics, protecting them is important because you cannot take them apart and replace the fuses. They are either soldiered or printed onto the boards.
    The way that I understand it, Jean Marie, is that an emp wave can be very powerful and can enter right into an electronic gadget though its casing and distroy them as the wave moves through the gadgets circuitry. Fueses and circuit breakers will be important but the whole electronic component must be protected also.

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    Exactly Arrowwind...

    Small electronics should be protected. Laptops are easier to fit in a faraday cage than a desk top with a tower, monitor, etc...

    However, having electricity to be able to plug them in will be a problem until the electricity is restored. If you have a generator than you will be able to use them. When electricity is restored to an area power in your house will not be up and running if your circuit breakers took a hit. Com Ed is only responsible for bringing power to your house. You would be responsible for your circuit breaker.

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    will foil act as a farady cage?
    It is recommended that you wrap your electronic component with plastic first, fully seal it, then foil, then plastic, alternating for 4 layers.

    then you put your foil hat on for extra saftety


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    So I found out that a chain saw ignition coil should be protected. Does a chainsaw have anything else in there I need to think about?

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    Well, in my opinion, it´s not worth bothering to protect computers an most other electronic stuff.

    In case of a big EMP caused by a solar storm, the whole grid will fry to the bone, including satellites.

    Specialists estimate that it would take years, maybe decades, to rebuild the whole grid structure.

    So, what is it worth to have a computer, without internet nowadays? Of course, you could hook your computer to a generator, but for what, to play games or to type some words in the word processor?
    Sure, there are sufficiently large EMP's that can take down the whole grid.

    However ...

    1) There are intermediate threats which will leave much standing or repairable within months. If one of those hits, I'd rather be one of those with computer equipment still working.

    2) Computers to have uses even without the Internet. I used computers for 20 years before connecting to the Internet. I have a vast library of reading on my computer (far more than I would ever print out), which may serve to inform or entertain. With a working computer, and a radio, I could publish a newsletter for my neighbors.
    Solar flares? Comets smashing into the Earth? hmmm???? I think the bigger threat of a power grid failure, internet shut down, etc, is simply being caused by some sinister goblin like critter in Washington simply flicking a switch to the off position!
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    So much bad information flying around...

    Circuit breakers just get reset, they are not fuses. Fuses work once, breakers work over and over and over

    Solar flares induce DC current, but they need big antennas to collect it. The real damage is to transformers. These will take years to replace while modern civilization crumbles around us.

    EMPs are a man made event and affect electronics. Think North Korea detonating a nuke in the upper atmosphere over the CONUS

    In a short term event, you can stay home and boot back up after a few days or weeks. In that case fine, you can have your e-books and photos back.

    In a big event, you are not likely to ever be booting up your laptop or other electronics ever again unless you want to carry the dead weight around with you. See my previous post about people getting hypothermia because they were carrying around electronics instead of warm dry clothes. Survival will require being adaptable and mobile.

    You have to asume that if the information isn't on paper, or better yet stored in your head, then it will be inaccessible to you. Having an army survival manual on a hard drive is a whole lot less useful than knowing how to build shelter or start a fire in the rain.

    Don't worry about storing fuel, having it after the initial bug out just makes you a target for bad people with guns and the will to use them.

    The best piece of advice that no one has even touched on in this thread? Have a network of people that you trust implicitly. Humans are social animals and only groups of people working together will make it.

    Take a first aid class.

    Learn to identify wild foods, start a fire, get clean water, build a shelter,....

    Remember the rule of threes. You can survive 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food. Lots of people get into serious trouble when out of their comfort zone because the don't prioritize properly.

    If you sit still and waste your last food or ammo protecting a trash can full of gadgets, you are a goner. Don't worry, there will be plenty of stuff laying around after the big one, whatever it may be.
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    [Solar flares? Comets smashing into the Earth? hmmm???? I think the bigger threat of a power grid failure, internet shut down, etc, is simply being caused by some sinister goblin like critter in Washington simply flicking a switch to the off position!
    In that case the fix is easy. Just flip the switch back on. Eventually it would get done and it wouldn't last as long as a solar emp event.

    Many people will be forced out of their house and forced onto the road in either scenario. In which case, yes thinking about survial when reduced to a backpack does not include electronics. But some others are not going to be moving and will depend on what they have cautiously worked out on their homestead. For us its pretty important that we can keep the chain saw going.

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    Arrowwind, You are going to get ZERO warning before an EMP. If you have a component you are worried about you need to buy it now, wrap it up, and hope you never need to remember where you put it.
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    Great thread, very interesting. One thing that no one has mentioned is communication. This will be one of the key requirements in the post-whatever-it-is-that-is-supposed-to-happen event.

    So, anyone who has practical experience in communications, CB radio and ham radio particularly, be ready to organize yourselves. Most countries have ham operator groups that specialize in emergency communications (RAYNET in the UK), but with the spread of the mobile/cell phone, such groups have become a bit of an anachronism and my well need re-invigorating.

    Have you made provision for your radio communication gear to operate without mains power, for days, weeks…? Have you got solar panels or bicycle dynamos that will re-charge batteries? Or simple clockwork equipment like the radios you can buy?

    And all you folks that have solar panels on your property to reduce your electricity bills; do they still give you AC when the grid goes down? Most (all?) do not! So do you know how to re-wire them so you can charge batteries for your community?

    I admit to being a bit sceptical about yet more end-of-civilization-as-we-know-it scenarios. How many have been and gone uneventfully in the past decade? But hey, what if I’m ***ing wrong? Even I think it would be a good idea to be prepared. My money’s on a collapse of the economy but with infrastructure more or less intact – something like the 1998 Russian financial crisis.

    Regarding EMP/solar flares; in my opinion Lazlo in post #108 has hit the nail on the head. There seems to be some confusion about these two things. It’s the atomic particles from the sun (coronal mass ejections) that cause the serious problems; they cause the earth’s magnetic field to swing about.

    CMEs are not at all uncommon, but something like the Carrington Event causes such large and rapid swings that Earth’s rapidly moving magnetic field induces unwanted voltages in the very long AC power lines that criss-cross large countries like the US, Canada, Russia, etc, saturating and (apparently) burning out the transformers at each end. These are big expensive devices and are not a stock item that can be just trucked in, well at least not if hundreds or thousands are needed across a continent.

    And as Lazlo says, an EMP is caused by an attack, a nuclear weapon of some type. I don’t know of any qualified solar physicist who has ever claimed there is any Earth/Sun mechanism that can induce a rapid one microsecond voltage wavefront EMP that is so strong it destroys electronics or the power grid. The energy has come from the Sun, it’s had 93m miles to spread. It didn’t come from a point source, but a sunspot at least as big as the Earth. If the grid is destroyed it’s because of the burnt out transformers caused as described above.

    This Sun/EMP stuff probably came from some journo who didn’t understand what they were writing – unless someone can show me otherwise.

    And yes, a fridge, microwave oven, sheets of aluminium foil, tin bucket with a metal lid will all give some protection against an EMP. But unless your equipment is clockwork, what you gonna do when the batteries go flat when there’s no mains – unless you have a solar charger… and even then no internet, phone network, TV…

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    However, My husband designs fuses. He is into circuit protection, thin film, ceramic, used to be in power fuse, etc..

    All electronics today are protected by fuses. The fuses in you car will stop it from frying out the circuits in the event of an EMP. All modern day electronics have fuses in them. They are designed so that if they take a hit from a power surge the fuse opens up and power is stopped from continuing through the circuitry.
    Fuses are prevalent, yes.

    But they do not always protect from high voltage, broad spectrum frequency spikes.

    People still lose equipment due to near by lightning strikes sending a surge down their power lines. Electromagnetic fields and currents have widely varying physical properties, depending on their frequencies. What is designed to be a proper fuse at one frequency can be a fine shunt or antenna at another frequency. The major EMP pulses we are worried about here encompass a very wide range of frequencies all at once, and present a challenge to our electrical and electronic equipment that can not be handled by the simple expedient of a fuse.

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    Well, all right...

    ... what about a False Flag EMP?

    Something generated by this kind of device and simultaneously all over an area (from: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...y-electronics/):


    ‘Today We Turned Science Fiction Into Science Fact’: Latest on the New Missile That Can Fry Electronics
    Oct. 24, 2012 9:26am Liz Klimas

    Boeing has completed another successful test for technology that fries enemy electronics with little to no collateral damage to other objects. This news comes a little more than a year after TheBlaze reported on Boeing’s previous successes with its Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP).

    Boeing describes CHAMP as “a non-kinetic alternative to traditional explosive weapons that use the energy of motion to defeat a target.” In its most recent test that took place last week with the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory Directed Energy Directorate, Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M., over the Utah Test and Training Range, Boeing proved CHAMP could follow a pre-programmed flight plan and wipe out enemy target data and electronic subsystems by emitting high amounts of energy.


    Computers inside CHAMP’s target building before it was blasted with high-energy microwaves. (Image: Boeing)


    Computers were knocked offline after the missile was fired. (Image: Boeing)

    “This technology marks a new era in modern-day warfare,” Keith Coleman, CHAMP program manager for Boeing Phantom Works, said in the company’s press release. “In the near future, this technology may be used to render an enemy’s electronic and data systems useless even before the first troops or aircraft arrive.”


    Artist’s rendition of the missile. (Image: Boeing)

    Watch this Boeing report on the latest test of the first fully functional CHAMP:

    http://bcove.me/vcnu5gym

    In a recent feature on CHAMP’s latest test, Boeing describes how the missile approached a two-story building, fired high-powered microwaves at it and effectively knocked out the computers and other electrical systems inside. It states that even the cameras that were inside the building to record the test were wiped out.

    “Today we turned science fiction into science fact,” Coleman said in Boeing’s feature.


    *****************************************

    ... you know... with drones all over the place...
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    Quote Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)
    is it ok to put unplugged power cords in a farady cage along with the equipment they belong to?
    anyone know the answer to this?

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    is it ok to put unplugged power cords in a farady cage along with the equipment they belong to?
    anyone know the answer to this?
    unplugged cords are harmless, to themselves and to what's near them

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    Dear All,

    Here's my own perspective on recommended reading. It's what I personally feel is of great importance -- as a summary of what we may be facing in the relatively near future. (By that, I mean something like the next 2-6 months from now, 7 Feb 2013.)

    Of course, there's a great deal more to understand and absorb. It's fine for readers to make recommendations about important aspects that you may feel I've missed. I also fully acknowledge that many of you will already be quite familiar with what follows.

    The purpose of this thread is to see if we can get ourselves all more or less on to the same page. We are necessarily of different personalities, different backgrounds, different skill-sets, even different generations, and have different purposes on Planet Earth this lifetime. But we have to assume that we are all on the same side here in what is an enormous game, contest, or battle: pick your metaphor of choice.

    Here, I'm more or less focused on practicalities. In my opinion, you should be too. Your personal and spiritual development and learning parallels this. There are many aspects of Avalon which focus on and support this. That's all good, as it's part of our purpose.

    But there are real threats before us. The frog-in-the-saucepan analogy applies. We should not be just spectators. The alternative media (including these words you're reading right now) is not just more entertainment and material for idle discussion, like alternative TV.

    We can't just be consumers of interesting information, as if we're watching the ultimate reality show. We have to act, to take responsibility, to do stuff. Don't just watch.

    Some of you will have a mission to inform others, and that's understood. But if we're ALL just informing one another, and doing nothing, the incestuousness becomes futile and of little use. One of the axes I grind about the alternative media, and the overwhelming plethora of radio shows, is that so many commentators spend so much time interviewing each other.

    This overwhelming tsunami of information -- quite a lot of which is noise -- is simply too much for any person to keep up with. (This is part of the value of the Avalon Forum: an able, focused group working together to present a filtered, predigested synthesis. This thread is a part of that.)

    As long ago as 2008, Kerry Cassidy and I were discussing whether Project Camelot's work was essentially complete. For those who may not know the history, this was the genesis of Project Avalon, which was always envisioned to be providing solutions, facilitating networks and personal connections, and offering sources of practical information.

    That's because the problem statement is this:

    If there exists a powerful, amoral [or worse], unimaginably wealthy group controlling the planet, with classified highly advanced technology at their disposal, whose origins go back thousands of years and longer, who are allied with or used by ET races who do NOT have the interests of the human race at heart and who are defying any existing non-interference agreements, who are psychically adept, are trained in and practice technologically amplified black magic, and who regard you and me as the enemy...

    ...Then what are we going to do about it?

    Here are my suggestions.

    1) Inform yourselves about all the basics, and in particular (because it's practically important right now) what I reference at the foot of this article.

    2) Protect yourselves and those you care about in practical terms. That may extend to:
    • independence from regular infrastructure if this should suddenly fail
    • moving out of harm's way if you currently live in a non-optimum location, while you still have the freedom to do so, and if this is in alignment with your personal purpose
    • working in whatever ways you can to counter and re-define the existing probable timeline(s).
    The last of these is important. Some of you are practical hard-skilled people who have no natural ability, training or experience in these areas, and this is fine. Among the mods team, I'm sure they won't mind my saying, that would include Paul and Ilie. Those guys are heroes in a different quarter. If it were not for them, Avalon cold not function as securely and smoothly as it does. They are of immense value to the wider team here. We are not asking of them that they are also white magicians.

    But some of you are. You know who you are. It IS possible to influence events, individuals and groups, to heal the individuals involved, and dismantle the control structure as rapidly as it's being assembled. A large number of people are doing this, and I know many of them personally. A number are members of Avalon (and some of toss people operate very quietly and do not attract any attention to themselves) but many are operating independently in diverse groups all over the world and in many different cultures, using many different techniques. (As an aside, you may be interested to know that there's an enormous amount of positive activity currently taking place in Russia.)

    All this has delayed the roll-out of planned events. The timeline is already significantly different from that foreseen in (for instance) T1V83. (That was very real. Kerry and I were briefed, off camera, for five hours about that. We were left in absolutely no doubt that this was not imaginary.

    But the variant timeline has so proved to be very different again. It's important to remember, each morning we awake, that NOTHING REALLY BAD HAS HAPPENED YET. This is not good fortune, or the acts of God, or the ETs, or the mistakes of the insiders. People like you have together been hauling at the rudder to change the direction of the supertanker. And it's been working.

    And now we come to the principal theme of this article.

    Like a solar cycle with very few sunspots (and I'll say a little more about this later), we may now be heading into a period of escalated activity that could threaten everything we've grown used to. This is what this heads-up is about.



    Essential reading:

    1) From Dave Hodges of The Common Sense Show (a very measured and well-written article):

    Part One:
    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/1...nto-hiding-why

    Part Two:
    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/1...ng-into-hiding

    2) This information (as Dave Hodges states) dovetails closely with the Doug Hagmann ('Rosebud') information which emerged a few days earlier:

    Part One:
    http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305

    Part Two:
    http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310

    This all fits with known scenarios and situations. This is what I was expecting earlier last year (2012), but which may now have been deferred or delayed till now.

    3) The two hour interview with insider economist "V", archived here:

    http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayl...1_Jan_2013.mp3

    4) The latest from DHS insider 'Rosebud', which I'd been waiting for since Christmas, published in full on this thread:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Insider-source

    The original reference is here:

    http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7666

    This lays it all out, as plain as day. The pieces all fit together. Those of you following the very weird, anomalous and suspicious Sandy Hook incident will have seen all the signs. 'Rosebud' summarizes that we should expect:

    a) Possibly as early as April, a sudden collapse of the US economy. Insider economist "V" describes this also [see (3) above], saying that the best case scenario will be like the 1999 collapse of the Russian Ruble (great austerity, soup and bread lines, but infrastructure intact) -- and the worst case would be full-blown civil war.

    http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayl...1_Jan_2013.mp3

    One of the actions to take here is to get out of all paper investments. Note that gold stocks are not gold! Liquid, small-denomination gold and silver coins are smart to hold. Insider-connected people that know what's about to happen are investing in practical equipment, stored food, hard resources, and farmable land. Anything left over is in precious metals.

    "V" states that after a period of apparently wild fluctuations around the current prices, silver will shoot up to $500-600, gold to $4000-6000. I can understand this, as I have first-hand confirmation that (as "V" says) there's barely any inventory anywhere. There's very little physical gold and silver to buy right now, and prices are certainly artificially suppressed.

    But, as George Green has always advised, the best investment may be in land, equipment, spare parts, and useful practical stuff. There may come a point where gold and silver will only be practically useful at the END of the emergency. (Always think: who will buy it from you?)

    b) A set-up/ false-flag incident or situation intended to publicly demonize government-critical 'fringe groups' such as survivalists, sovereigns, patriots, constitutionalists, gun rights advocates, and other 'domestic terrorists' -- maybe even all lumped together.

    c) Another Sandy Hook type incident -- maybe escalated to be far more apparently horrific.

    d) (Already rolled out on 23 January) -- the start of subversive and disruptive action against a large number of online groups and individuals, certainly including the Avalon Forum and some members within it. (There is strong reason to believe that when this proved to be ineffective, due to Avalon's strong membership firewalls, the action was excavated to a different level, one that 'Rosebud' does not mention or does not know about, which features technologically-amplified psychic attacks on targeted individuals. See this important three part interview if you're in any doubt about the reality of this technology:
    e) Some deaths of activists, intended as warnings to the alternative community. (This too seems to have begun already, and I suspect there will be more).

    Finally, I promised I'd say a word about solar activity. In summary: so far, so good. Watch http://spaceweather.com for alerts and updates. I've heard nothing more from my insider source who warned me of an 1859-scale solar event anticipated for early this year (i.e. round about now). If we make it safely through to the end of summer, risks of a major destructive CME [Coronal Mass Ejection] may be pretty much over.

    In the meantime, I have a bunch of military-grade EMP bags, which are really quite cheap, ready on hand to protect any critical electronics. You may only need a few, and they'll last forever.

    So that's it. Please read the above through as many times as it takes to really understand this. And please do read all the linked articles and listen to all the audios. (It'll take a little time, but I promise it's worth it.)

    And finally, as I've said many times, the mods and admins here do a quite stellar job. There HAVE been attacks on the forum, and we've been tracking them carefully. There are some very able people on the team, supported by a number of very able members behind the scenes. (You know who you are, and I thank you all.)

    There's been a lot of work done already. The forum is in good shape, but we're agreed that there will almost certainly be more to come. All this may only just have started. Put on your lifejackets, and connect your safety lines: we're all on this journey together.
    Good info, the EMP bags are great but can you get them for people?

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    Default Re: Does anyone know how to protect electronics from a massive solar flare?

    Article from HAM RADIO NEWS
    SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2013

    A Primer on Faraday Cages

    http://www.americanpreppersnetworkra...m_medium=email
    SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2013

    A Primer on Faraday Cages
    There is a great deal of confusion about Faraday cages. Not only about how to build them, but also what they actually protect against. In this article, I will answer a few basic questions and perhaps debunk a few myths.

    What is a Faraday cage?

    A Faraday cage (a.k.a. Faraday shield) is a sealed enclosure that has an electrically conductive outer layer. It can be in the shape of a box, cylinder, sphere, or any other closed shape. The enclosure itself can be conductive, or it can be made of a non-conductive material (such as cardboard or wood) and then wrapped in a conductive material (such as aluminum foil).

    Figure 1: Building a homemade Faraday cage: (a) gather tape, box, and aluminum foil,
    (b) cover box and lid completely with foil, (c) line box with cardboard and store items, and
    (d) close Faraday cage

    What does it do?

    The cage shields the contents from both electrostatic fields (i.e., fields that don’t change over time) and non-electrostatic fields (i.e., fields that do change over time). It is particularly useful for protecting against an electromagnetic pulse that may be the result of a nuclear detonation in the atmosphere (a.k.a. EMP attacks). Despite rumors to the contrary, a Faraday cage is not necessary to protect against solar coronal mass emissions because the frequency content of such disturbances is at much lower frequencies—they don’t couple enough energy into small-scale electronics. Solar emissions do however disrupt radio transmissions, damage satellites, and like an EMP attack, can potentially destroy the electrical power grid.

    How does the cage work?

    The free carriers in the conductive material rapidly realign themselves to oppose the incident electric field. If the cage is made from something non-conductive, the free carriers are not mobile enough to realign and cancel the incident field.

    How thick should the conducting layer be?

    The conductive layer can be very thin because of something known as the skin effect. That term describes the tendency of current to flow primarily on the skin of a conductor. As long as the conducting layer is greater than the skin depth, it will provide optimal shielding. The skin depth is a function of the frequency of the wave and the conductor material. As an example, consider that for a frequency of 200 MHz, the skin depth of aluminum is only about 21 microns. Therefore, wrapping a box in a couple of layers of heavy duty aluminum foil (typically about 24 microns thick) provides the necessary conductor thickness to protect against high-frequency radiated fields.

    Does it matter what type of conductor is used?

    Not much. The conductivity of nearly any metal is good enough to allow the carriers to easily realign to cancel external fields. For example, if silver (the best conductor) were used in place of aluminum, the skin depth at 200 MHz would be reduced to about 4.5 microns. Of course, the high cost of silver would prevent using it for such a purpose.

    Can a Faraday cage have holes?

    Yes, as long as the holes are small with respect to the wavelength of the incident electromagnetic wave. For example, a one GHz wave has a wavelength of 0.3 meters in free space. As long as the holes are significantly smaller than that dimension (i.e., a few millimeters), they won’t let in much of the incident wave. This is why fine conductive mesh can also be used for making a Faraday cage. In practice, the lid or door usually causes the most leakage. Taping the seam with conductive tape greatly reduces this leakage.

    Can you use existing conductive enclosures?

    Yes, there are many conductive enclosures that can be used, including ammo cans, metal garbage cans, anti-static bags, and even old microwave ovens. Each has its own level of effectiveness as covered in the book, Disaster Preparedness for EMP Attacks and Solar Storms.
    Does the cage have to be grounded?

    There is a great deal of confusion regarding grounding of a Faraday cage. Grounding of the cage (i.e., connecting it to some Earth-referenced source of charge) has little effect on the field levels seen inside the box. Grounding primarily helps to keep the cage from becoming charged and perhaps re-radiating.

    Written by Dr. Arthur Bradley, author of the Handbook to Practical Disaster Preparedness for the Family, the Prepper’s Instruction Manual, and Disaster Preparedness for EMP Attacks and Solar Storms. To sign up for his free “Practical Prepper” newsletter, send an email to

    newsletter@disasterpreparer.com

    Disaster Preparedness for EMP Attacks and Solar Storms:
    http://amazon.com/Disaster-Preparedn.../dp/1469941554

    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 25th February 2013 at 02:25. Reason: Added link to the book

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    Default Re: Does anyone know how to protect electronics from a massive solar flare?

    I've made two "cages". Both are smaller steel tool boxes, the kind that are hinged on one side and hasped on the other with a lockable hasp.

    I sank a ground stake (local hardware had them or you can use rebar ((but will corrode over time) just outside the garage wall and ran the ground wire through the wall (10AWG).

    Wire brush off the paint where you want it connected and bolt the wire to the box (leaving enough slack to pull the box off of the shelf). Make sure to paint the area you brushed after connecting the wire since corrosion can eventually act as an insulator.

    I was concerned about the lid not making a proper ground with the body so I used a smaller gauge wire and connected them together above and below the hindge.

    Testing was done with a cell phone and walkie talkie's. I keep a coil, cap and rotor and voltage reg as well as fuses for my old truck and various comm devices so.

    Hope this helps

    Be safe, R2

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    Sure. As long as they are in the cage.

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