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    Greetings fellow Avalonians, and residents of our beloved Mother Earth:

    I am starting this thread on why I want Donald Trump to run for and win the United States presidency in 2012. Please post your thoughts here.

    For the record, I am apolitical and I am not scribing this with a political agenda in mind. I am writing this with a humanitarian intention at heart. It does not matter to me that Donald Trump is a Republican, nor if he were a Democrat or an Independent. I don’t care that he has funny hair and can be a little arrogant. What matters to me is he knows how to conduct international business and manage real estate (Gaia).

    By now many of us have figured out we can liken US politics to a two-headed snake. We know that there is a secret government, the Military Industrial Complex staging all these wars; the banking elite and the Federal Reserve, I.R.S., stealing trillions of United States citizens’ money and lining their own pockets while others loose their homes and jobs.

    What I like about “the Donald” is he is a maverick businessman and with an international reputation for knowing how to negotiate. He is not compromised and speaks his mind. He’d fire the majority of congress and get rid of as many corrupted “public servants” as possible. And most of all I believe he would be a major force in cleaning up our planet world-wide. He would not spend American tax payer dollars to fight other countries wars. And he would not let America continue to be robbed and pillaged blind.



    It’s time for a revolution peeps!

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    Quote Posted by Redtailhawk (here)
    Greetings fellow Avalonians, and residents of our beloved Mother Earth:
    I am starting this thread on why I want Donald Trump to run for and win the United States presidency in 2012. Please post your thoughts here.
    For the record, I am apolitical and I am not scribing this with a political agenda in mind. I am writing this with a humanitarian intention at heart. It does not matter to me that Donald Trump is a Republican, nor if he were a Democrat or an Independent. I don’t care that he has funny hair and can be a little arrogant. What matters to me is he knows how to conduct international business and manage real estate (Gaia).
    By now many of us have figured out we can liken US politics to a two-headed snake. We know that there is a secret government, the Military Industrial Complex staging all these wars; the banking elite and the Federal Reserve, I.R.S., stealing trillions of United States citizens’ money and lining their own pockets while others loose their homes and jobs.

    What I like about “the Donald” is he is a maverick businessman and with an international reputation for knowing “the art of the deal.” He is not compromised, speaks his mind and has grapes. He’d fire the majority of congress and get rid of as many corrupted “public servants” as possible. And most of all I believe he would be a major force in cleaning up our planet world-wide. He would not spend American tax payer dollars to fight other countries wars. And he would not let America continue to be robbed and pillaged blind.

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    It’s time for a revolution peeps!

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    Hello Redtails,

    What planet are you spinning from?

    Trump is as big an insider as it gets without being consanguine with the brothers of the red shield. His popularity stems not from intellectual process or business acumen ... but from being well-connected and willing to play the dirty game that the banksters have laid out for the benefit of the brotherhood. Playing the dirty game under the false banner of free enterprise; and reaching the top of the New York Times - the quintessential shill corp. publishing mill's - best-selling quill hill ... may get you a few books sold from pure marketing alone ... but there's nothing of redeeming value beyond Trumpet's phony blare, "if-that-ain't-the-armpit-of-a-bear-that-ain't-seen-water-in-a-month" toupee or not toupee, and genuine megalomania. Then again, perfect for modern presidential qualifications, wot?



    ps: In the future, I implore you not to associate beautiful Beatles' songs with the artifices of the deal. Thank you.
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    At his best (attributes you described), I can kinda sorta see your point, but wow, I have to say I want someone very different than Donald Trump as president, vice-president, senator, or even as mayor of Bean's Purchase, New Hampshire. I want someone of extremely high integrity, who is "of the people." I have absolutely had enough of rich people ruling our country. Even the most benevolent rich person will almost undoubtedly place priorities too high on business to the detriment of all else. They can't help it. Rich people are successful capitalists themselves or born into capitalist families.

    I want our electoral system turned on its head (reformed), so that there is:
    • gathering of signatures, top 10 candidates are on the ballot (national holiday on signature gathering day)
    • no political parties (or at least no advantage to belonging to a political party)
    • equal (modest, publicly funded) spending by all (maximum=10) candidates. No additional spending allowed. This will nullify the 'Citizens United' decision
    • equal time in every debate
    • equal air time or print space for all candidates
    • abolish the Electoral College in favor of popular vote with Instant Runoff Voting
    • abolish electronic/computerized voting machines (eliminate vote tampering)
    • use paper ballots only, hand counted (with candidate reps watching), with full audit trail (national holiday on election day)

    There may be a thing or two missing from that list, as that was off the top of my head. The idea is to make candidate selection fair, voting honest, and remove all corporate and money interests from the process. This is the only way we'll ever get to the place where we stop "electing" millionaires pre-selected by the Elite. This is also the only way we'll have the opportunity to have "ordinary" people in office.

    If it is impossible to keep influential Elites from influencing just exactly who the 10 candidates are, then I would support a random drawing of all citizens, similar to the way we select jurors for a trial. Yep, that's right - I'd rather select from 10 randomly chosen people than anyone the Elites want in power.

    Phase 2: end lobbying... but that's for another post. (Gotta end lobbying to end the Elites' influence after the election!)

    Dennis

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    No thanks on "The Don". Or any others for that fact. These people in charge are a one trick pony when it comes to this, and the pony always has a schtick.


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    Quote Posted by Fred S. (here)
    No thanks on "The Don". Or any others for that fact. These people in charge are a one trick pony when it comes to this, and the pony always has a schtick.


    Cheers,
    Fred S.
    I do understand what you mean, like I said I'm apolitical. What inspired me to post what I did was the clip from The View and how he called out Obama. If Trump were compromised as it appears both parties are when it comes to challenging Obama's eligibility then he would not go public and say what he did. I really like the fact that Trump is seriously addressing the fraud of Obama and people are listening. Maybe a Ron Paul/Trump ticket could start to shift things in the right direction.

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    well remember what charles said which was once you reach a certain amount of richness you are contacted by the group to play the game their way or suffer the end game so he knows the rules which means he would be no different than all the other clowns.
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    well remember what charles said which was once you reach a certain amount of richness you are contacted by the group to play the game their way or suffer the end game so he knows the rules which means he would be no different than all the other clowns.
    You could be right, but I do think Trump has some real experience taking on and defeating thugs and mafia types, which have run our government for a very long time. He's made his billions mostly through real estate not through ponzi schemes. I've been listening to him lately and he's making a lot of sense, and after all what are our other choices? And you have to admit, he'd be entertaining.

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    Trumps a swindler, at least we already now it.

    LOL.

    He can't be trusted and his heart is all about worshipping idolatry. MONEY.

    NOPE, no hope for Donald as President.

    Count on it.
    Or should I say BET on it.

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    Redtailhawk,

    First of all, they all (politicians) talk boldly about about what they'll do BEFORE they get in office.

    Second: Donald Trump was born into a wealthy family (his father was a self-made millionaire) and after college Donald joined his father's company. When Donald went off on his own, with the Trump Towers and Taj Mahal Casino (which he financed with high-interest junk bonds) to mention a few businesses, he took them into bankruptcy. His financial problems were much publicized in the 90's.

    So you want a man who was born with much advantage and still bankrupted at least I believe 2 companies to get us out of this financial mess - when he himself relied on his bankster friends and creditors to get him out of his mess.

    I suggest you do some research and not fall for this false bravado personalty who has emerged from a reality show.
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    .. he is a maverick businessman and with an international reputation for knowing how to negotiate.
    After some scrutiny Trump gets his contracts and businesses somewhat too easy.

    Building tinsel town for the rich & stupid over the backs of negotiated down un-unionized labour,
    is not an achievement, it is New World Order Corporate Fascism, that such folks refer to as 'we're all family'

    .. and I am afraid you probably will not grasp the meaning of this
    anywho

    Quote And he would not let America continue to be robbed and pillaged blind.
    America - as in big corporate foreign policy - has been robbing and pillaging the Homeland & Worldwide blind for many a decade now.

    Perhaps you should read books by other authors than at present ..
    like
    "John Perkins - Economic Hit Man .. for the Secret Oligarchy of the United States of America"

    and have an asperine on standby

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    Quote And he would not let America continue to be robbed and pillaged blind.
    America - as in big corporate foreign policy - has been robbing and pillaging the Homeland & Worldwide blind for many a decade now.

    Perhaps you should read books by other authors than at present ..
    like
    "John Perkins - Economic Hit Man .. for the Secret Oligarchy of the United States of America"

    and have an asperine on standby[/QUOTE]

    Yes, I have read Economic Hit Man and have met with John Perkins in person.

    People here seem to be against the idea of Trump being able to bring our country back on track economically; when all I am suggesting is he has more ability than most when it comes to running a corporation.

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    Hi Redtailhawk, if you want to go out and do all you can to get Trump elected, then go for it. I just think you'll be beating your head against the proverbial brick wall to get people in a place of informed people like this to go along.

    If you think it's the right thing to do then do it!

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    Quote Posted by Redtailhawk (here)
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    And he would not let America continue to be robbed and pillaged blind.
    Quote America - as in big corporate foreign policy - has been robbing and pillaging the Homeland & Worldwide blind for many a decade now.

    Perhaps you should read books by other authors than at present ..
    like
    "John Perkins - Economic Hit Man .. for the Secret Oligarchy of the United States of America"

    and have an asperine on standby
    Quote Yes, I have read Economic Hit Man and have met with John Perkins in person.
    Quote People here seem to be against the idea of Trump being able to bring our country back on track economically;
    you bring back an economy yourself
    by getting rid of the - very expensive - 'help' from politicians and bankers .. and the likes of the Donald, and you're economy will be back on track in a dogs fart
    Quote .. when all I am suggesting is he has more ability than most when it comes to running a corporation.
    you dont want someone who can run a corporation ..
    you want someone who can run a society

    like I posted somwhere else ..
    after carefull scrutiny of Cesar Milan's The Dog Whistperer; ..

    Love is ..
    .. the dominance of the love pack over the evil pack

    and you're in search of a pack leader
    not an entertaining heardo

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    I think that if there were a sudden awakening of the whole planet, bringing everyone spiritually back in tune with how things ought to be, then there's no need for a leader anyway.
    "Stop getting Bond wrong!" (Alan Partridge)

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    Please! No more celebrity presidents!

    Additionally, Mr. Trump said that no way could Ron Paul win.

    I'd see Ron Paul as president before Donald Trump.
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    AHAHAHAHAHAH ! What an idea!

    Namasté

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    I believe the Dalai Lama is stepping down soon. Perhaps the Trumpmeister might consider that position.....

    Ahh.. needed a good laugh
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    "It does not matter who one votes for, or where - the 'government' will always be in power."

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    I would rather see joe the plumber become president than donald trump.

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    would be fun seeing him stand before congress and say...


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