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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Quote Posted by sepia (here)
    ooops - is this really the kind of men you would like to see in this world? That are needed on this planet?

    Although - she seems to benefit a lot, that's for sure. But he seems to have lost...

    Sepia
    I am in agreement with you here Sepia. I only made it half way through this video. I felt my testosterone levels drop watching it. At least I think that was what that draining feeling was. There's a first time for everything.

    Besides the almost sad feeling from watching this man I could not escape the idea that it was going to turn into a commercial for Viagra or something.

    The posture and energy from the man were one of being drained, not at peace, although he may be very happy.

    Her vitality was in stark contrast to his. She hummed with energy.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    We can only hit a 'thanks' button on the forum. A youtube thumbs up or down with the count for each would be so much better.
    Lots of 'types' have had wrong done to them since Ig and Um, not just women.
    Over here in NZ a Labour Party offical told a party member 'oh for christs sake, just because we don't have the correct amount of Maoris, women and cripples in the caucus etc....

    It was funny but most real too. And this was 20 over years ago.
    I will not be apologizing to anybody I have not done wrong to thank you. It is hard work being a 'real' man and must be worked at every day. but the rewards are many. To have the trust and respect of many, including many women is an immense reward says I.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Can someone fill me in, patriarchy cycle? matriarch cycle? why does this affect me and how does it affect me as a male. i an't been neutered

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Essentially, none of what has been discussed has happened. Its a wish list for those who seek avenues of power. I doubt that my life will change whether I live in a pat/mat/ or combo. While those that seek power and control pursue their desires, I'll be in the garden smelling the roses.

    Have fun with it.

    Cheers.

    (slaps a mosquito into next week while patting the dog)

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Having now listened to the interview, I would like to make comment that Lucia seems like a very nice, normal person to me, and you people should listen to what she is saying.

    Also, it clarifies which I presumed would be the case, that using the word apology and to many extents the definition we instinctively link with that word, is an archaic, less 'enlightened'/balanced form of thinking or addressing the the notion of masculine and feminine energies. There is nothing 'wrong' with such uses of wordings, yet as we clearly see, it must be expected it will hijack many into one division or another. This is A way to bring attention to the subject, yet it has had quite a lot of collateral damage in the past. Mainly by entrenching certain characters further into their divisions rather than filling in the trenches and levelling the playing field.
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    Quote Posted by Inelia (here)
    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Quote The natural state is for women to be Power (CHI) and for men to be Structure. Structure includes defense, nurturing, love, service, and making sure everything is running smoothly so that nothing is clogging up the flow of Power.
    The above phrase briefly describes the old aged dogma , hierarchy and pattern the 'cultured' society was built upon,
    the rules and the division. 'We' ( men , could be women in matriarchal society ) are the law , the knowing , the sctructure..'you' are different, you have no heads ( but big hearts ) and can do the job that's needed.

    'We' will create the order and 'you' will do what is expected from you ..


    Read again. We ALL move our focus from our heads to our hearts. We ALL have male and female energy. And we have, or choose one which is predominant. And YES, we ARE all different. Completely and utterly different from each other. There are not two persons who are the same. What is wrong with being different? Nothing. If we were all the same, this planet would be very, very boring.

    Quote Posted by FrankoL (here)

    How do you know that? ...Maybe it is only your opinion, ... be more explicit.
    45 years on the planet effectively working with thousands of men and women on their personal ascension.
    Thanks for responding. Do you know why I pointed that out? You sounded like "patriarchal" oriented, On a very high level, I must say.

    Let me explain. In my POV, old paradigm is all about hierarchy, superiority, mysticism, differentiation, separation, … you name it. Lets face it your writing is exactly that (all about “I am…”).

    Preaching that paradigm will change is discounted (as you completely fit into it).

    I don’t have nothing against you (as I can be you), but it is proper and healthy also for you, to receive some different kinds of feedback. We all have to improve, including yourself.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    It's easy ..tantra in two steps ..

    if all ladies vote for patriarchy and all gentlemen for matriarchy ..there's peace on Earth..

    see the Deity in you is seeing the Deity in me , no one else than Divinity is seing the Divinity that's why we're all Divine.
    I should better retreat to the sanskrit alphabet ..

    The second step may be the more difficult one for all of us, say every citizen of Earth..

    cut your mind from ordinary, mundane experience ..the dull, shallow slaughter . How else do you nickname it ...


    See, so we're at the step one ..


    Count down ...to...0004176 ...



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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Hello all

    I am new to this but would just like to thank all of you who have replied. Although I have not made it through all the posts, the ones I have read feel seeded with love. Thank you Bill for the interview and the initiation of the dialogue. The part of the interview that resonated with me was near the beginning when she was speaking of the chakras. If I understood her words, she noted that male energy appears to flow from the heart chakra and that we (humanaity) are moving towards the universal "heart" unconditional love energy. It just made me think of the men I know and love. I immediately thought(felt) - "Yes, I see that, they do work from their heart". Does this mean my hubby has a head start on ascension? Just kidding, I know its not a competition.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Excellent video thank you!

    Quote Posted by 000 (here)
    Excellent interview. It is spot on.

    Interesting sync of note: At the very end she says "We've got the tsunami coming in..." "...we've got to surf the wave..." and this was on March 10th...

    She mentions, during the interview, riding right up the to edge of the cliff as it were. I feel we're at the beginning of that arrival at the edge right now, marked by March 11th's events.

    I don't like following any doctrines whatsoever, but there is a Zen kōan I dig which is quite apropos at the moment:

    "The light of the eyes is as a comet,
    And Zen's activity is as lightning.
    The sword that kills the man

    Is the sword that saves the man."

    Rehearsal is over. Time to mount up.
    My sentiments exactly.

    Regardless of whether the tipping point is natural or man made, duality I feel is the key.

    I'm actually a little fearful of opening my heart like an open book, because when I do I can feel all of the energy an emotions bouncing around.

    On the subject of what I see as a reversal of chaos, therein lies an opportunity for an equilibrium. The female side in each of us is the connection to the Earth, the male side is the connection to the stars.

    At this moment of time we reach a point where time exists as in the Fibonacci spiral, where the male/female represent the two equals, the magic constant one. The female side is the first in the series and the deepest connection to what we really are. We remain always as equal beings created by Mother Earth.

    My only hope is that we reach out and grasp it. To learn that which we are yet to learn.

    Peace & love

    Paul
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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Why would you apologise for something that other people did Bill?
    That is part of the guilt complex they put into us, reject it.
    We will accumulate enough guilt for the things we do ourselves without taking onboard more.
    It's not about guilt. As males, we embody (either consciously or otherwise) the genetic and racial predisposition towards the feminine on some level, as do many women. The feminine energy and the goddess tradition (as embodied most prominently by women) has been sequestered and compromised since the beginnings of the current age, and its place in our psyche holds both a sacred and sensitive quality. An apology can be a gesture in acknowledgement of this proclivity, and a conscious reminder of how this programming can, and is being undone.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Quote sepia
    I was so perplex about these two people being presented as the 'good example'
    Actualy I didnt say a word ! This is your words and idea of why I put in the film.

    The thead is about enegy and balance !

    It is a work to do with oneself !This will be A common problem. More will experience this in pair relations, that one is having kundalini and the other is stuck maybe for years 3D.

    All need to work on their own energy level and there is so many ways !

    There is much fear to overcome and acceptans of oneself as you are.

    There is no right and wrong ONLY FEAR and JUDGEMENT !

    We are all changing all the time !

    It is about finding out who you are and accepting your self as you are !

    Accepting the other as he/she is !

    All start with oneself !

    Most people have only 3 chakras activ and the way is to overcome different fears and see trough the programing.

    This is not right and not wrong it is just how it is !

    I like to say also that it has been intressting to see the responses on this 2 people that no one knows, have on others.

    I ask you to look at your self.....

    A nother coment was that this will not last !

    What say that it has to last maby they have the time now and learn a lot from this and then separate.

    The idea to own some one crosses clear trough. GIVE ME A BREAK !

    We are all learning and experiencing this is the jurny on planet earth !

    We where all granted a body that is all you have and that is your tool to experience this world !

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    And I've heard a poem, song like that...

    Sarve loke sukhadayini svabhave viswa karini santushto sampradayini...

    diksam apara dayini samtushto sampradayini..


    It was a long poem ...

    anyone here to continue please join in .....

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Hi, All:

    This new video, with author, teacher, mystic, and woman's activist Lucia René, is an intriguing discussion about the role of women - and men - in today's world: essentially an esoteric perspective on what could be called the depth psychology of power.

    Lucia states that the days of the Patriarchy - which has been in command on Planet Earth for thousands of years - are coming to an end. Women are now beginning to stand in their own power... and with it, the role of men is being redefined.

    Whatever gender you are, this is a timely and deeply interesting interview. Lucia's book is an important one for our changing times, and as a man - apologizing for the abusive attitudes and actions of many of my fellow men for countless generations - I'm delighted to be giving it the prominence it deserves.

    Enjoy.

    http://unplugfromthepatriarchy.com

    MP3 download: http://projectavalon.net/Lucia_Rene_...March_2011.mp3

    Video download: http://projectavalon.net/Lucia_Rene_...March_2011.mp4

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=e4vPyClAHqs


    Thank You so much for this beautiful interview...!!!! I must say i am pleasantly surprised to see you (Bill) embrace such a topic,I stand in honor of your open heart....BRAVO...!!!!!!

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    I realy enjoyed this interview - one of the best I've heard Bill give.

    Thanks so much!

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    The interview was totally and utterly amazing. As Lucia says it's all about the heart. The Earth mother is calling, connecting with her and being midwives' to her new birth, the birth of change. We help her as we let our light shine, to illuminate the world in order to the banish the shadows. Lucia Rene and Bill Ryan are superb.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    I had a professional past life regression a couple of years ago. It was most enlightening. One key concept that came clear to me was that, whatever bad thing that was done to me in this or any other lifetime, I most probably was the perpetrator of in yet another lifetime. It's the true nature of karma. Karma isn't a punishment so much as it is a function of natural law in the universe. If we are suffering at the hands of those saturated in lust for physical wealth and power--we were most probably in a personality dishing it out as well in some other life time. This is how we learn cause and effect from every angle, both as giver and recipient.
    Its not so much that we have to forgive as that we have to understand, learn and let go.

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    Hello all
    <snip>
    I immediately thought(felt) - "Yes, I see that, they do work from their heart". Does this mean my hubby has a head start on ascension? Just kidding, I know its not a competition.
    LOL! Hello and welcome to Avalon Regaks!

    Something you said reminded me of something. One of the Tibetan Buddhist enlightened saints that help others on the path is Green Lady Tara. It is said of her that as she approached ascension, her fellow male Buddhists told her to die, reincarnate as a male, and then ascend, that it was only proper.

    She acerbically replied that from now on ALL her ascensions would be in a female body.

    So it would seem even in ascension the patriarchal competition paradigm can raise its head lol ...

    Sierra

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Quote Something you said reminded me of something. One of the Tibetan Buddhist enlightened saints that help others on the path is Green Lady Tara. It is said of her that as she approached ascension, her fellow male Buddhists told her to die, reincarnate as a male, and then ascend, that it was only proper.

    She acerbically replied that from now on ALL her ascensions would be in a female body.

    So it would seem even in ascension the patriarchal competition paradigm can raise its head lol ...

    Sierra

    Your gender discrepancies are rather over-complicating the issue here ...

    But at the same time, preservation of your species depends on them . You think ? At the end you will all become mums, you will be able to give birth to another being from your body ..
    Or...you die off ..

    So ..you need to preserve your moms because the future of your species depends on them ..on you all ..



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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    Quote Posted by Dennis Jonathan (here)
    I am a man. I have many power tools. .
    I am a woman . I have many power tools too .

    Some of them are the 3D variety for building houses, one of my "jobs"

    others are etheric for building, repairing and cleaning energies.

    Excellent interview and discussion,

    Having been born into a VERY patriarchal family structure,
    (my father is a church leader and the role of women was very much submissive),
    i experienced much in the way of loss of power.

    I also understand it was all very much by design for me to learn to rise up against it, and re-claim back my personal power.

    It also became very obvious that forgiveness and non judgment was a big part of that re learning.

    Everyone has their roles to play in this duality.

    No accidents- it was freaky timing for this release for me personally as
    i was just dealing with some deep inner work in relation to yet another layer of re-claiming back more parts of my own power.

    After i watched this video i went looking for more of Lucia's work,
    and she has a lot more interviews archived on her site.

    A few are also with our much loved Inelia, it seems they make quite a team......

    http://www.unplugfromthepatriarchy.c...ved-events.htm

    The Feb 12 one was particularly interesting, detailing the work that they do,
    with the global elite. They are a serious force.
    I personally would like to thank them both here and now for the work that they are doing.

    A HIGHLY RECOMMENDED LISTEN.

    http://unplugfromthepatriarchy.com/a...he_Tsumani.mp3


    It all depends on how far out you view things from as to what u see. ( IMO)


    Will add more to this discussion after i finish moving house.

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    Default Re: Unplugging the Patriarchy - a new interview with Lucia Rene

    i just found this....

    Quote Gay Hendricks, Arjuna Ardagh and a group of Conscious Men from around the world offer apologies to women for thousands of years of imbalance between masculine and feminine energy, as well as vision of a new era of co-creation.
    The greatest privilege of a human life is to become a
    midwife to the awakening of the Soul in another person.”
    ~ Plato

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