Another 9/11 Pentagon Missile Video? Could This Be It?

[woodshreder]

I feel they have a wide open mind. With the exception of this event
Its a deep seated terror based reaction, everytime I nudge the smallest amount of information that supports the opinion that the actual planes and the souls onboard may have been diverted to places unkown. It creates a reaction that stands out above all the rest.
I guess if you compartmentalize the frightening story your lead to believe. Theres a block that does not allow rational thought. That creates an emotional response and completes the cycle. How you break the cycle, without creating an emotional response, is the challenge .

[Decibellistics]

Most people don't even know there was a third WTC building that fell......Every single one of my close friends that I have shown say the same exact thing. Oh my God, I didn't even know another building fell.

I think most people are content with the reports because they are too lazy to read through the 9/11 commission and the Patriot Act to realize that a giant red white and blue dick is being shoved some place it shouldn't be shoved.

The Great American Complacency

[iceni tribe]

to gently nudge people in the right direction , i show them this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3151MqXu52s

and ask how is this possible , she must be made of asbestos .

it's the same with 7 /7 tell them to look at the photo of 4 men going into luton train station. they cant see anything wrong with the photo until the railing's are pointed out to them.
and then they have that ........... o my god moment.
it is a slow process but i did get nearly a 100 people with that one the other week.

[Bill Ryan]

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I found the video really interesting, and have downloaded it. SW's comments that it was CGI are noted. I'm not convinced.

I may have missed something (pushed for time and not a lot of time to research at the moment) - has this just been released? Where did the 'new' video come from?

Re Flight 93, it was definitely shot down. Or *A* plane was definitely shot down.

I know the witness ('Elizabeth Nelson') personally who was in the room during the conference call when the decision was made to shoot it down as it was entering restricted air space near Site R and was not responding to challenges.

The military commanders who made the decisions knew nothing about any false flag: they were just following protocol and could legitimately have announced publicly what happened and the decision they were obliged to make. But although they need not have, they covered it up anyway and invented the Shanksville crash.

I've talked with 'Elizabeth' about this extensively and know her well. She was brave enough to do an audio interview. I promise you that you can take the shoot-down as fact.

[Renee]

Regarding your friend that works for United - I have found that those that don't want to hear it, often already suspect it - but psychologically are too terrified to deal with it because it will shake the foundations of all they hold near and dear. It is to much to handle in their world. Hence the high level of denial and rejection - it is a form of self protection.

I saw the movie Wag the Dog. I recommend the book though, the movie apparently doesn't do it justice. The movie was done as a comedy apparently to deflect the important message in the book. IE the government is the wizard of oz

http://books.google.ca/books?id=0t0Y...ed=0CD4Q6AEwBQ

[Celine]

I agree the video is extremely convincing,..

but i must say , the editing ...the music...adding a sense of fear to this stuff..is never productive.

[iceni tribe]

hi celine
9 /11 could be the pivitol point of a change in human perspective ,
for far too long these murderers have got away with it, we need more stuff like this out there,
the truth will set everyone free and may the people involved get their just rewards.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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I found the video really interesting, and have downloaded it. SW's comments that it was CGI are noted. I'm not convinced.

I may have missed something (pushed for time and not a lot of time to research at the moment) - has this just been released? Where did the 'new' video come from?

Re Flight 93, it was definitely shot down. Or *A* plane was definitely shot down.

I know the witness ('Elizabeth Nelson') personally who was in the room during the conference call when the decision was made to shoot it down as it was entering restricted air space near Site R and was not responding to challenges.

The military commanders who made the decisions knew nothing about any false flag: they were just following protocol and could legitimately have announced publicly what happened and the decision they were obliged to make. But although they need not have, they covered it up anyway and invented the Shanksville crash.

I've talked with 'Elizabeth' about this extensively and know her well. She was brave enough to do an audio interview. I promise you that you can take the shoot-down as fact.

If its not CGI, and I firmly believe it is, then please explain the angle and altitude from where the alleged video was taken. It looks to be approx. 200ft above ground, and due to its slowness must have been from a helicopter. Did anyone witness a low flying heli at time of impact?

[woodshreder]

Could there be a building within a distance that would allow this video to be shot? Just a thought
If you think its at 200 ft, it only needs to be a 20 story building to take such a video, give or take a couple of floors

[Bomack]

Thank you Enlightenment101 for posting this thread! Interesting video isn't it?

To add some fuel, but remaining as neutral as possible:

Posted by SPIRIT WOLF (here)
Hate to put the damper on things but thats CGI, check the angle of view, as if being filmed from a helicopter at less than 200ft

Posted by SPIRIT WOLF (here)
If its not CGI, and I firmly believe it is, then please explain the angle and altitude from where the alleged video was taken. It looks to be approx. 200ft above ground, and due to its slowness must have been from a helicopter. Did anyone witness a low flying heli at time of impact?

What if it were an airplane, say 20 miles out and not very high above the horizon? With today's electro-optics, would that be possible? Wouldn't the longer distance make the video appear to be taken from a lower altitude? And also wouldn't the movement (or panning) of the non-stationary camera, created by the forward motion of the aircraft, become even slower as distance increases? Even better yet...What if it were a satellite? Is that possible? Do THEY have optics that are sophisticated enough to do this? (At this point it's becoming very difficult for me to remain neutral! LOL!)

Posted by woodshreder (here)
Could there be a building within a distance that would allow this video to be shot Just a thought I mean if you think its at 200 ft there it only need to be a 20 story building to take such a video

That would seem to be an unlikely possibility because the camera appears to be non-stationary in the video.

Posted by Operator (here)
What source could take aerial view pictures so close to the pentagon while it is a no-fly zone (especially on the moment supreme) ?

In-case you haven't seen it yet:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxUvBWoHgBs

It IS an E-4B and NOT to be confused with Air Force One. (Neutrality is not what it's cracked-up to be. Now I have a headache! LOL!)

Even the Pentagon said that it doesn't belong to them. So who's going to tell THEM that THEY cannot fly there? Just something to think about.

Bob

[Nagual]

New 9 11 Analysis Reveals Use of Hidden Technology (?)

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgv70paJZeU

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8sS3PgQZVY

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSp0cvpDCFE

[Jonathon]

I don't know about you guys, but what he calls a ball I can see wings on in the clip he uses. Still doesn't look like a 767, however there are wings.

[noxon medem]

Posted by Enlightenment101 (here)
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/another...it-t21020.html

Could this be it ?
Sorry, but computer says NO ..
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I saw this clip in another version some years ago, this one is edited down so the CGI-effects are not so obvious in this one.
But still they haven't managed to "glue" the missile properly to the ground/building footage, to follow cameramovement,
and after "impact" the flames of the missile move eradicly sideways compared to the ground, not at all realistic.
My opinion is that this should be put in the "useless evidence, but interesting" category.
Some of these are made for fun, some for a purpose. The most profane purpose is that every time we spend 5 minutes with
something like this, it is 5 minutes we do not spend on something else. And then we have other more serious reasons...
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Please take a look at the picture in post #14 on this thread and compare to the missile in quoted video. Which one is real ?
(ok, here it is: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/s...-3588H-002.jpg )
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click to view
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[Strat]

I'm not sure about that video. The issues I have with it are fairly simple:
1.) How did the light posts get knocked down on the highway?
2.) What about the pictures of the engines in the wreckage?
3.) What about the scrap metal wreckage on the lawn?
4.) Like Steve said, wasn't that a no-fly zone at the time?
5.) I imagine a cruise missile would cause more damage then the little hole in the side.

[iceni tribe]

one of the best doc's on the pentagon.
how anyone can still think a plane hit the pentagon is beyond me.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2821935314404#

[jaybee]

Posted by iceni tribe (here)
how anyone can still think a plane hit the pentagon is beyond me.

Well....some of us do....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...4768#post44768

please see my post 34....

[Fredkc]

Yawn....

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXGSefI6pM

Mote, Beam and no tweezers to be found.

Sigh

[iceni tribe]

the guys that fly the planes for a living tell you it aint possible

http://vimeo.com/6773991

i suppose theirs something in the saying........................you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink

[Carmody]

One of the most damning points about and against the entire 9/11 saga's official story, took place in about 1 hour after the whole thing began.

Yet no-one, to this day, seems to even understand it even took place. They have missed it entirely.


You see, 100's of millions of dollars, and more, have been spent on doing war and disaster scenarios. War games, planning, plan and action books...etc, etc. Specifically that of terrorist attacks, etc.

Every single one of those has and had one single thing at the very top of the expected outcome and result list.

And that, is --biological attacks.

Recall that everyone who got off a plane in the US and Canada, not one single person was ever tested or checked on for infectious disease or plagues of any kind.

Not one.

They just all ....walked off the planes....and went on their merry confused ways.

I sat there, that morning and advised people (on forums) to rush out and buy bottled water and similar things as I knew that they would all be locked down and movement prohibited. This.. until it was known that the #1 scenario, the numero uno aspect of all plans and expectations of all offices of government and planning, by a huge margin, for over the past 40 years...would have to be played out.

For if there was even a 0.01% chance of plague aspect being released, then every single person from any plane of similar 'incoming group' (borders, etc) of would be locked from movement of any kind. For days, in some cases and areas. This is the #1 plausible scenario....by a factor of about 10 to 1, over any other aspect of any other or adjoining possible scenario. Those people on those planes should have been held and quarantined for days. At the bare minimum. In a heartbeat, no thought required. That is the plan and the playbook for the past 40 years or more.

This, freedom of people and their movements....this...within one hour of the whole thing starting ---told me right then and there, that the entire thing was bogus and an inside job.

[Renee]

Thank you for this info - very interesting. I was not aware of the US policy on this sort of thing.
Initially I just had my gut feeling, when watching the TV (not even sure now why it was on, I never watch TV during the day) - then came the logic and the science. It was a lie - it was all a lie, why would anyone do that? That scared me more than any idea of a so called terrorist act, was the idea that the government would be in colusion with this, was the worst part. I also knew that Bush would bring nothing but disaster and ruin to the country - before he was elected.

Then we were travelling to the states in Nov. and all we heard from even our government officials was that we 'live in a different world now'. Like robots, or a broken record people kept repeating it. Pissed me off - still does. Why should My world change just because someone lies?

But as one of Hilter's said - the bigger the lie - the more people believe....Therefore showing how Honest descent people cannot process that such inconcievable actions could take place by people they would have trusted. Such a betrail only happens to others - not in the USA, once the landof freedom.