United People Action Ideas

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by dukes4monny (here)
I must admit that I am really not sure about this guy. He seems just 'too good to be true'......he's worked on the inside too. What do you guys in the US think of him?

I've been following Jesse for a few years, and I also think he's genuine. I haven't seen anything that would indicate otherwise.

[cjhepburn]

Posted by skippy
What about organizing a conference in 2012 and invite them all!

Good idea and last night I was thinking how even churches are using music to bring folks together. Don't know how helpful this would be but I've been working as an office manager/ bookkeeper most of my life. I am good at research and doing letters etc so if someone is needed to do those sorts of things I'm game. I could probably get some free web space and put together a site as well.

If we're going to be targeted then maybe a bullseye would make a good logo. With all the 2012 craziness it would be a perfect time for a conference initiating change.

[dukes4monny]

Build it and they will come

[Revere]

Dukes

Build it and they will come

This takes a lot of time...full time commitment (if you want thousands of people). Seed capital does not hurt as well depending on the type of facilities that need to be secured as well as where and when. The right location and local feet on the ground are needed as well to maximize advertising, media, sponsors and local participation. Hmmm, Bill and Inelia are working on a conference. I wonder if there maybe some synergy through their consciousness style conference. (I think that is their plan but not sure.) Directing our consciousness for change is very, very important to the success of changing our situation. I see it as the foundation to a successful movement in many ways. Some legs under the conscious intent is very important.

Is anyone here close enough to Bill to catch some of his time and have a meaningful discussion with him? Perhaps, the two are in alignment or could be a prelude of one to the other? There is a ton to consider and mention but let me keep it short for now.

Peace,
-R-

[Revere]

If we're going to be targeted then maybe a bullseye would make a good logo. With all the 2012 craziness it would be a perfect time for a conference initiating change.

Whoa....I'd be real afraid that it could be misconstrued as gunning for them...not our intention! Look at the bullseye thing with Sarah Palin's web site and that poor senator who got shot and the innocents who were killed by a possible crazy or manchurian type here in the US!

Remember back "all we are saying is give peace a chance" Lennon & Yoko we better stick to that style of tone. That alone just about got Lennon deported. Fortunately he had money, lawyers and NO "Patriot Act"! I'd like to be around to see the change get started. LOL

Peace,
-R-

[cjhepburn]

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If we're going to be targeted then maybe a bullseye would make a good logo.

Whoa....I'd be real afraid that it could be misconstrued as gunning for them...not our intention!
-R-

Point taken!

[cjhepburn]

[QUOTE=Revere;194543]

If we're going to be targeted then maybe a bullseye would make a good logo.

Whoa....I'd be real afraid that it could be misconstrued as gunning for them...not our intention!
-R-

Point taken! We're here to share ideas not start a war.

[dukes4monny]

Hi all, I've just found this interview with Charles Eisenstein and I think that if you found his book a struggle, this interview really distils it down into an easy to digest brew.
He appears to suggest that there will have to be a collapse of the current system in order to bring about the changes that are needed.
So the question is: is this action that we are hoping for in this thread about bringing about the collapse, or, are we planning action for the post collapse?

One phrase that he mentioned really stuck in my mind: "Money converts abundance into scarcity".........

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IB88JuDA5Uw

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7yD3y0uT4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1dPnFdXNSL4

[dukes4monny]

I'm not sure why (kismet?), but I was lead to this article which seems to be written for this thread.........: http://www.realitysandwich.com/gathering_tribe

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by dukes4monny (here)
So the question is: is this action that we are hoping for in this thread about bringing about the collapse, or, are we planning action for the post collapse?

There's no need to help bring about the collapse. That's been the plan of the PTB for a long time, and the collapse will occur. There is a great need, however, to have a plan already in action for the replacement society we want to see. If we don't, the replacement plan offered up by the PTB, which they have already carefully prepared, will be the only "solution" the people will be allowed to see. That is how the PTB operate -- problem, reaction, solution. They create the problem, which is designed to produce an expected reaction, then they offer at the opportune moment their preplanned solution which is packaged to look like the very salvation the people need.

[phimonic]

i'd like to put important info into a video-game of some kind.
i'm 3D-artist and into game - development - we even won an engine to create a high-tech game for Linux. (can also be exported for win PC/ps3?xbox,.. but we won that license to make a game with this technology running on linux. open-source was probably best.
but now we must think about some sort of game-concept - and story for it. - till now we are totally independent.
i'd love to see some true stories and concepts of higher consciousness within whatever we'll make.
but it is maybe a good way to transport messages to people who wouldn't search for them.

i'm not sure though if it was the right way, and what should be communicated. but i'm sure it is a way , just like the internet - to bring information to people -
i had the idea for example making a shootergame out of john carpenters "they live!" - even got response from john carpenters site, but got stuck at Universal (asking about rights,..) - anyway, with that much insight on things, as within this avalon forum, a much greater story could be told, i guess.
and it wouldn't need to be a shooter-game i guess (personally i don't like shooter-games very much),

but generally i was interested what you people thought about such a game - where it's about ancient ruins, secret energy, bloodlines - rulers and rulers' rulers.
maybe starting in a small village, where they found something early 1900s (tesla-style steampunk - scenarios - maybe even playing with frankenstein-cliches, but putting in real infos, that are not published by mainstream media.

you think this could backfire, in the sense of people not believing even more, cause it's just a game,... ?
if yes , than what to tell instead, which may motivate some people to open their eyes?

i was really interested if you think a game in this direction was useful, and could change any(thing/body)


(this is just a technical movie bout the engine, i was talking: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bkKtY...layer_embedded)

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by dukes4monny (here)
I'm not sure why (kismet?), but I was lead to this article which seems to be written for this thread.........: http://www.realitysandwich.com/gathering_tribe

Oh, yeah! That's very much what I'm talking about! The United People Declaration sprang from that very source, even though I have never seen it before.

(kismet -- Fate or Destiny in Turkish and Urdu, a predetermined course of events)

[dukes4monny]

Posted by phimonic (here)
but generally i was interested what you people thought about such a game - where it's about ancient ruins, secret energy, bloodlines - rulers and rulers' rulers.
maybe starting in a small village, where they found something early 1900s (tesla-style steampunk - scenarios - maybe even playing with frankenstein-cliches, but putting in real infos, that are not published by mainstream media.

you think this could backfire, in the sense of people not believing even more, cause it's just a game,... ?
if yes , than what to tell instead, which may motivate some people to open their eyes?

i was really interested if you think a game in this direction was useful, and could change any(thing/body)

Hi Phimonic, That actually sounds like quite an intriguing idea. I think that it's a very modern way of getting stories across to youngsters, and would perhaps make an interesting 'Adventure' game.
It would take some careful thought about the story that is being told, and would need to be careful to not make it keep people in a 'virtual' reality instead of the 'actual' reality that we need to manifest.
How much work is involved in creating a VR world using this system and what are the costs involved over and above peoples time?

[phimonic]

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Posted by phimonic (here)
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It would take some careful thought about the story that is being told, and would need to be careful to not make it keep people in a 'virtual' reality instead of the 'actual' reality that we need to manifest.
How much work is involved in creating a VR world using this system and what are the costs involved over and above peoples time?

_good points! thank you ! - i'd say it needed est. a year dev. time - the costs where at least 10 people working fulltime that year,..plus some equipment. _raising money for that is a good point , and really our biggest problem right now.
we got an email couple days ago from a guy who wants to post an article about gaming on linux on opensource.com. he asked what we are going to do with that engine, and if we had idea yet,..
that was kind of a push to really think about it, - i came up with an experimental idea involving linux- open- source community -

basically we want to make that game for the users, and not for a publisher,.. - so maybe it was possible to motivate interested linux- or also win users to donate for it, and at the same time beeing part of it ( getting acces to files we create - 3D-models mainly etc. - you can donate some more, and you'll have your face modelled to one of the game- characters. - people who donate gain access to those files, can use em for personal use in the sense of creative commons, and have access to a page that shows game-progress, can download test-versions etc... so the game could grow with it's community, or similar ) - but maybe this is crazy and naive ^^
as i said it'd be an experiment. - but if many people could be reached and motivated to donate only a couple of dollars, or even only one dollar - we could at least start.
or we make something for a publisher which wasn't that cool i guess.
maybe we can have ingame-product-placement - indirect advertisements from conscious products or projects.

i don't know
at the moment animating animals for a mobile game to get some bucks for urgent bills - but we would love to make a game with the technology we got winning at that contest.
last project we kind of got ripped off badly - but we did it, although it's not great at all, but that's another story about what can go wrong
after continuing to do work for that same company in vain - we really would love to do that kind of work how we wanted it to be done, and not how some ceo or whoever thinks,..
i must say we're not like working at an office together - mainly connected with skype- others from russia, england - have contact with coders in bulgaria,..

a bunch of nerds

but i'm sure we could produce such a game much cheaper than a big company.
and with some help even more.
making test-objects and preparing things to make a nice demo, to then look how things evolve. - somehow all gonna be good anyway, i'm sure
first object for engine demo is old steam locomotive, friend is working on - i'm a bit helping - want to start this week with a new character.
i really would like to make a devilmonkey :D ( could be some weird professor's scary pet *think)


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[dukes4monny]

The trouble is Linux is still very specialist and we would need something that is more mainstream...........I don't like Microsoft, but we are stuck with it.
Would it be possible to make it an online multi user adventure game / simulator? Revenue generation is going to be a tricky one, but it would be an interesting test for the 'Living in the Gift' idea?
One idea for the adventure could be 'Post Apocalypse', where users would have to work together to bring about a new society, not as a 'shootemup'. Perhaps the online users could make suggestions that could be added to the simulation world and this could be on a 'Gifting' basis...........this could possibly generate the required revenue?
It could almost be used as a 'Training Ground'.........

[greybeard]

Posted by dukes4monny (here)
The trouble is Linux is still very specialist and we would need something that is more mainstream...........I don't like Microsoft, but we are stuck with it.
Would it be possible to make it an online multi user adventure game / simulator? Revenue generation is going to be a tricky one, but it would be an interesting test for the 'Living in the Gift' idea?
One idea for the adventure could be 'Post Apocalypse', where users would have to work together to bring about a new society, not as a 'shootemup'. Perhaps the online users could make suggestions that could be added to the simulation world and this could be on a 'Gifting' basis...........this could possibly generate the required revenue?
It could almost be used as a 'Training Ground'.........

I have been using Unbuntu Linux for a year and it does all that Windows does faster and is not as yet targeted by virus.
My ability is very average, It was set up from a disc by my son.
The number of users is growing fast.
Chris

[phimonic]

actually the engine would support also win and playstation,.. - so if the game got developed for linux - it then wouldn't be too much effort to port it also to win / ps3 i guess it's more a matter of licensing. - we also had thought about a postapocalyptic scenario (think)
but not sure - had also idea for early 1900 - maybe archeologists find some very ancient ruins - then they find out that it is a 40 000 year old - nuclear-waste-deposit ^^ -
i also like many things about the eisenstein-story - but not sure if the russians would like this, i need to check since all involved shall like the idea.

anyway thanks very much for your posts and thoughts on that - (maybe start a new thread about game (think)^^ )

something totally different what might fit in here - were avalon parties maybe - avalonian soundsystem - connecting djs and make 4 times a year a party in many cities - bombing flyers and stickers worldwide - so in new york, london, vienna milan , sydney, also smaller cities - having djs and artists perform their music, and spread links to avalon due to stickers and flyers. i'm thinking about urban subcultures.
i think it was worth a try.

[dukes4monny]

I work with Russians all of the time and find them to be very open and understanding 'human beings'.
Thank you for your input to this thread. Your input and idea's are all positive. Positive intentions are one of the most important things.
A separate but parallel thread about this possible project would be a good idea. Maybe start a specific group?

[phimonic]

yes - i really enjoy working with the Russians - will check out how to make group - will let you know!

[phimonic]

successfully created group: video-game - everyone who is interested is invited and welcome to join!